| 00:00.08 | magellan | hum ... for swiss people yes :) But Switzerland is a small country ... It takes 2:20 by train |
| 00:00.58 | budy | Okay, so it depends on how fast the trains go in Switzerland. ;-) |
| 00:02.19 | magellan | hehe yes :) |
| 00:02.30 | magellan | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 00:02.38 | budy | Ready? |
| 00:02.44 | magellan | a nice linux kernel booting on my iPAQ :) |
| 00:02.52 | budy | Great! |
| 00:03.44 | magellan | THAT'S SO GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:04.00 | budy | Welcome the iPAQ Linux world! |
| 00:05.22 | budy | On more thing, before I go to bed. You will want to upgrade your familiar base to unstable asap, since the powermanagement ist failry broken in the base image, at least for the 55XX and 54XX units. |
| 00:05.51 | magellan | ok ... and what is the way to do this ? |
| 00:06.37 | budy | check your /etc/ipkg folder. There you will find some config files, don't you? |
| 00:07.49 | magellan | yeap |
| 00:08.09 | budy | Okay, which ones are there? |
| 00:08.23 | magellan | base.conf |
| 00:08.39 | magellan | familiar-ipaqpxs.conf |
| 00:08.45 | magellan | gpe.conf |
| 00:09.00 | magellan | that's all |
| 00:09.50 | budy | Okay, replace the src in base.conf with this: |
| 00:10.02 | budy | src familiar_unstable http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l |
| 00:12.40 | budy | Hmm, I wonder what is in the gpe.conf? |
| 00:13.31 | magellan | src base http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7.2/base/armv4l |
| 00:14.21 | budy | Thats quite funny, since this is the familiar_base feed. IŽd rather move this config out of the folder. |
| 00:14.53 | magellan | oups no |
| 00:14.55 | magellan | sorry |
| 00:14.59 | magellan | wrong file |
| 00:15.27 | budy | Aha... ;-) It late even in Switzerland! |
| 00:18.11 | magellan | gpe.conf : |
| 00:18.49 | magellan | src x http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7.2/x/armv4l |
| 00:20.37 | budy | Hmm? don't know, I guesss you can leave it alone and upgrade. |
| 00:21.17 | magellan | ok ... |
| 00:21.29 | magellan | may I close minicom on the console ? |
| 00:22.16 | magellan | I think so but I prefer to ask ;) |
| 00:22.23 | budy | If you wish to, I find using a real keyboard is better than tapping on the screen, but its, of course, up to you. ;-)) |
| 00:23.38 | budy | Anywaym issue a "ipkg update" to get the file lists from the configure feeds. |
| 00:23.45 | magellan | hummmmm ok ! you're right |
| 00:24.55 | magellan | first of all I have to setup my wireless connection |
| 00:25.17 | budy | Yes, of course, do you use WEP? |
| 00:25.24 | magellan | nop |
| 00:25.33 | magellan | only mac check |
| 00:25.49 | budy | Good. What does iwconfig wlan0 read? |
| 00:26.05 | magellan | looks really good :) |
| 00:26.45 | budy | So, you can start? |
| 00:27.43 | magellan | yeah ! it works perfectly |
| 00:27.46 | magellan | :)))))))) |
| 00:28.37 | budy | Fine! That will change, though. The new driver are a bit nasty, but they provide teh best power saving. |
| 00:29.00 | magellan | that's great ! the wlan led flash when data is transfering ! |
| 00:29.23 | budy | Yes, I believe it flashes green. |
| 00:30.10 | magellan | nop ... orange here :) it flashes green to shows it has network activated but it flashes orange quickly when data is transfering |
| 00:31.36 | budy | Okay, after updating comes the biggest part, "ipkg upgrade" will bring your familiar up to date with the latest feed. |
| 00:33.04 | budy | It may be that the wifi card won't register with your AP, but you can always change the wifi settings from the terminal. Problem seems tobe that the mode is set to ad-hoc instead of managed. |
| 00:33.59 | magellan | Package=virtual-locale-pt, 2 matching providers |
| 00:33.59 | magellan | Please select one with ipkg install or ipkg flag prefer |
| 00:34.02 | magellan | ? |
| 00:34.27 | budy | Which version of ipkg do you have" ipkg -v" |
| 00:35.06 | magellan | 0.99.105 |
| 00:35.43 | budy | I know this one, I think re-issueing "ipkg upgrade" did it for me. Or you remove the gpe.conf and start over. |
| 00:36.12 | budy | I think that this is caused by the two different feeds. |
| 00:36.46 | magellan | ok now it does not complain |
| 00:36.58 | budy | Good. |
| 00:41.30 | magellan | is there a way to disable Bluetooth but not wLan ? |
| 00:41.41 | budy | Why that? |
| 00:42.26 | budy | Normally, BT is deactivated. |
| 00:43.03 | budy | Has the upgrade succeeded? |
| 00:43.08 | magellan | yes |
| 00:43.26 | budy | Can you suspend and resume using the power button? |
| 00:44.29 | magellan | it restarted the handheld |
| 00:45.20 | budy | Thats odd. I had this when I first tried GPE. That was one of the reasons I switched to Opie. Okay, than I cannot be of any more help to you, i guess. |
| 00:47.08 | budy | All I can say, that its not kernel related since Opie and GPE use the same kernel, hh36. Must be something in the suspend/resume script. |
| 00:47.42 | budy | Alright, its time for bed now, for me. |
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| 00:47.52 | magellan | I think I will try Opie I think :) |
| 00:48.08 | magellan | ok ! thanks for your help ! |
| 00:48.13 | budy | Maybe a good choice. |
| 00:48.28 | Niacin | gpe rules :> |
| 00:48.36 | Niacin | i just upgraded from 7.2 |
| 00:48.40 | Niacin | to 7.2 unstable 9 |
| 00:48.45 | Niacin | and it works so much better |
| 00:48.56 | Niacin | aside from some small glitches |
| 00:49.00 | budy | Right, youŽre welcome. If you browse the familiar maling list, you will find some posts regarding the H5500. |
| 00:49.18 | Niacin | magellan whats the problem ? |
| 00:49.20 | magellan | ok I will have a look |
| 00:49.23 | Niacin | i have a 5400 |
| 00:49.27 | Niacin | they are basicly the same model |
| 00:49.28 | magellan | Niacin: no suspend :) |
| 00:49.49 | Niacin | so it doesn't suspend? |
| 00:49.51 | Niacin | or it locks up |
| 00:49.55 | Niacin | when it trys to suspend |
| 00:50.03 | magellan | it shuts down ... |
| 00:50.22 | Niacin | and when you hit on |
| 00:50.22 | magellan | it shts up |
| 00:50.22 | Niacin | it does some funky square things? |
| 00:50.23 | magellan | no |
| 00:50.36 | Niacin | what happens when you hit on |
| 00:50.40 | Niacin | after its shut down |
| 00:50.40 | budy | Now, thats life - good night and good luck! |
| 00:50.50 | magellan | good night budy ! |
| 00:50.58 | magellan | CU and thank you again |
| 00:51.09 | magellan | Niacin: now yes ! |
| 00:51.17 | budy | Bye all! CU soon. |
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| 00:51.19 | magellan | Niacin: nice color squares |
| 00:52.38 | Niacin | yeah thats what i said |
| 00:52.43 | Niacin | funky square things |
| 00:53.05 | magellan | yes ... what's the solution ? |
| 00:53.12 | Niacin | your problem is a known glitch in the 0.7.2 stable |
| 00:53.22 | Niacin | its fixed in unstable9 |
| 00:53.27 | Niacin | or wait to the next release |
| 00:54.29 | magellan | how to switch to unstable ? |
| 00:55.10 | Niacin | http://handhelds.org/~pb/unstable/ |
| 00:55.42 | Niacin | use |
| 00:55.48 | Niacin | bootgpe2-v0.7.2+unstable9-h3600.jffs2 |
| 00:56.03 | Niacin | hold the joy pad and hit reset |
| 00:56.07 | Niacin | then serial in again |
| 00:56.17 | Niacin | and type load root |
| 00:56.21 | Niacin | then send that file |
| 00:56.23 | Niacin | and your set |
| 00:57.04 | magellan | ok |
| 00:57.19 | magellan | hum personnaly I think it's h3900 :) |
| 00:57.28 | magellan | for me at least |
| 00:57.36 | Niacin | thats what all the images you use are |
| 00:57.40 | Niacin | check the orginal image you used |
| 00:57.45 | Niacin | its h3600 to |
| 00:57.56 | magellan | it was h3900 |
| 00:58.00 | Niacin | yes :) |
| 00:58.13 | Niacin | magellan i ran that on mine |
| 00:58.15 | Niacin | and it works fine |
| 01:00.13 | magellan | upload in progress |
| 01:29.37 | Niacin | where does familiar keep its shadow info for the passwd file? |
| 01:30.16 | Niacin | or it doesn't have one ? |
| 01:43.55 | magellan | Niacin: it seems it doesn't ... |
| 01:44.11 | magellan | Niacin: thanks for the advice ! it's working great now |
| 01:44.40 | magellan | good night all ! |
| 01:51.40 | Niacin | arg |
| 01:51.46 | Niacin | now its stopped working again |
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| 02:08.53 | Hydrant | Hello all! |
| 02:10.16 | Hydrant | If a PDA is unsupported, like the h1930, how unsupported is unsupported? |
| 02:10.36 | Hydrant | Is it "not everything is working" or is it "it will become a nice paperweight" ? |
| 02:13.43 | Niacin | http://www.handhelds.org/projects/h1900.html |
| 02:13.48 | Niacin | see that page for info |
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| 02:15.33 | Hydrant | k, how similar is an h1900 to an h1940... ? |
| 02:17.08 | Hydrant | Hmm, how difficult is it to port from one PDA to another? Is it just writing new drivers for things like accessing the SD card, or is it a lot more involved? |
| 02:17.41 | Hydrant | Like, if I wanted to port to the 1940, how involved is it? I'm just researching this now |
| 02:17.45 | Niacin | no idea for the 1900 series |
| 02:17.48 | Niacin | i run the 5400 |
| 02:17.59 | Niacin | it doesn't have sd support either :( |
| 02:19.08 | Hydrant | Hmm |
| 02:19.26 | Hydrant | I guess the SD interface isn't like an IDE interface |
| 02:19.45 | Hydrant | I suppose the drivers are different from PDA to PDA... what a nightmare if that's the fact |
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| 03:00.16 | Niacin | anyone know what the ipkg cmd is to list all installed packages? |
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| 05:36.51 | travis | I installed familiar (opie) 0.7.2 with the latest bootloader from my flash card. It all went well but I don't have much room on my ipaq3630 and opie hogged 'bout all of it. So I restored my rom to the latest from HP, and put Parrot 1.07 back on. The problem is that my ipaq hard resets every few boots, just like the bug in the linux bootloader... any thoughts? |
| 05:54.01 | Niacin | buy a bigger flash card |
| 05:55.58 | travis | I guess I was asking for that, let me restate, any solutions to my ipaq rebooting with wince? |
| 05:56.57 | Niacin | no idea |
| 05:56.59 | Niacin | ring hp :> |
| 05:57.41 | travis | Yeah... That's what I'm thinking. |