| 00:11.58 | byrnerat101 | hi.....? |
| 00:12.58 | bluelightning | hello |
| 00:13.31 | byrnerat101 | what kind of pda do you own per chance? |
| 00:13.41 | bluelightning | HP iPAQ H3970 |
| 00:14.01 | byrnerat101 | do you run opie? |
| 00:14.04 | bluelightning | yes |
| 00:14.09 | byrnerat101 | do you like it? |
| 00:14.13 | bluelightning | yep :) |
| 00:14.20 | byrnerat101 | does it do everything a normal pda would? |
| 00:14.41 | byrnerat101 | i just got an ipaq 3670 and am debating weather or not to run linux on it |
| 00:15.06 | bluelightning | sort of... syncing is a little dodgy at the moment (it's getting closer though) |
| 00:15.45 | byrnerat101 | can you run any linux program if i run linux on it? |
| 00:16.01 | bluelightning | if it's ported to ARM then yes |
| 00:16.26 | bluelightning | ARM = the processor architecture used in the iPAQ |
| 00:16.33 | byrnerat101 | where would i go to look for programs ported to arm |
| 00:16.39 | byrnerat101 | yea i figured ;) |
| 00:17.45 | bluelightning | well you could have a look in the in feeds http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8/ |
| 00:18.13 | bluelightning | only shows package names though |
| 00:19.09 | bluelightning | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.22 | bluelightning | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.02 | byrnerat101 | oh wow, theres alot more that will run on it then i thought |
| 00:21.50 | bluelightning | in theory you should also be able to run any zaurus app on opie, however I'm not sure if the compat libs are working well at the moment |
| 00:21.51 | byrnerat101 | whats so dodgy about syncing? |
| 00:22.12 | byrnerat101 | cool |
| 00:22.46 | bluelightning | well, with Opie, Qtopia desktop sync should work fine. But Qtopia desktop isn't that great. Alternatively there is kitchensync, but that's a little rough around the edges |
| 00:23.04 | bluelightning | I'm trying to help test Kitchensync at the moment (it requires KDE though) |
| 00:23.15 | bluelightning | I believe Multisync is another option but I have never used it |
| 00:23.41 | byrnerat101 | is it any harder then a gentoo install? lol |
| 00:23.55 | bluelightning | it should be easier than that actually :) |
| 00:24.05 | byrnerat101 | ok then i think i can handle ity |
| 00:24.08 | byrnerat101 | ;) |
| 00:24.23 | byrnerat101 | do you run a linux pc? |
| 00:24.34 | bluelightning | yes, I run gentoo actually :) |
| 00:24.55 | byrnerat101 | me too |
| 00:24.56 | byrnerat101 | lol |
| 00:25.28 | byrnerat101 | does opie support graffiti? |
| 00:26.09 | bluelightning | I'm not sure... there is a graffiti package, but last time I tried installing it (ages ago) it didn't do anything |
| 00:26.31 | bluelightning | I'll try it now |
| 00:30.00 | byrnerat101 | ok, thanks for answearing all these silly questines |
| 00:30.09 | byrnerat101 | would linux support a wireless keyboard? |
| 00:33.21 | bluelightning | the bluetooth ones might work... I know the targus IR one doesn't work with my iPAQ |
| 00:33.30 | bluelightning | no guarantees basically |
| 00:34.04 | byrnerat101 | ok |
| 00:37.45 | byrnerat101 | brb, dinner ;) |
| 00:42.28 | bluelightning | byrnerat101: ok, the answer is yes - just install opie-handwriting-graffitiset and choose the graffiti character set in handwriting options |
| 01:11.35 | byrnerat101 | you my freind, are a godsend |
| 01:12.44 | bluelightning | :) |
| 01:13.19 | byrnerat101 | ive had so many good deals on this pda fall into my lap.... im afraid somthing is going to go wrong lol |
| 01:14.00 | byrnerat101 | brand new ipaq 3670 65$ free wireless keyboard, supports linux yay! |
| 01:14.15 | bluelightning | about the only thing about the 3670 is it has limited RAM I think |
| 01:14.32 | byrnerat101 | i can always buy more. |
| 01:14.41 | bluelightning | I think you can upgrade them yes |
| 01:14.44 | byrnerat101 | not to big a deal right? |
| 01:15.38 | bluelightning | well it can get a little tight with only 32MB RAM |
| 01:16.26 | bluelightning | but give it a try |
| 01:17.09 | byrnerat101 | 32 meg isnt alot for a pda? |
| 01:17.47 | bluelightning | when you have something like Opie or GPE running, a fair bit of RAM gets filled |
| 01:19.29 | byrnerat101 | really? |
| 01:19.31 | byrnerat101 | damn |
| 01:19.47 | byrnerat101 | how much of a footprint does windows ce take? |
| 01:19.59 | bluelightning | not sure |
| 01:20.28 | bluelightning | windows CE sections off some of its RAM to store data of course, which I think is a stupid idea |
| 01:23.30 | byrnerat101 | ok, one thing im not to sure about... is the installed 32 meg ram used for storage as well as ram? |
| 01:23.44 | bluelightning | in WinCE, yes... not in Linux |
| 01:24.36 | bluelightning | ok, as an example, on my H3970 I have 28MB used, thus leaving 4MB free if I only had 32MB |
| 01:25.09 | byrnerat101 | what? |
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| 01:25.48 | bluelightning | you could probably kill off a few unnecessary things to reduce that |
| 01:26.18 | nolidzh | anyone around that could gimme a bit of direction w/ a new .8.0 stable install |
| 01:26.50 | bluelightning | nolidzh: sure, what's up? |
| 01:27.52 | nolidzh | bluelightning, well, I installed .8.0 no problems, got it on my wireless network, again no problem, started my post install w/ ipkg update, and it errored out, I noticed that it was because the ipkg.conf was sending it to http:/// instead of // |
| 01:28.07 | nolidzh | bluelightning, so that finished, and I went to do an ipkg upgrade |
| 01:28.10 | bluelightning | ah yes, that is a bug |
| 01:28.11 | nolidzh | and it errors out everytime... |
| 01:28.43 | bluelightning | well you can ignore the postinst stuff... it's a bit messy to see that every time you use it, but it doesn't affect installs/upgrades of other stuff |
| 01:29.07 | nolidzh | now it's erroring out with ln: /etc/rcS.d/S21ipaq-hal: File exists [: S: bad number |
| 01:29.07 | nolidzh | update-rc.d: -s/etc/init.d/ipaq-hal: file does not exist postinst script returned status 1 ERROR: kernel.postinst returned 1 Configuring ppp-dialin adduser: ppp: login already in use postinst script returned status 1 ERROR: ppp-dialin.postinst returned 1 An error ocurred, return value: 4. |
| 01:29.50 | nolidzh | well the thing is, it is affecting other installs, everything I try to install it tells me isn't found, and then it goes thru that again |
| 01:30.12 | bluelightning | you have done an ipkg update right? did that say anything? |
| 01:30.25 | nolidzh | ie. I can "ipkg install lirc" and it will tell me lirc doesn't exist, but if I do "ipkg list lirc" it tells me all about lirc... |
| 01:30.45 | nolidzh | yeah, after I fixed the ipkg.conf i did an update and it appears to update all fine and dandy |
| 01:32.03 | nolidzh | and uhm, vi + hyperterm == surefire hell. |
| 01:32.06 | nolidzh | ;) |
| 01:32.12 | bluelightning | heh |
| 01:33.08 | bluelightning | I think you'll find in the case of lirc, the only package available is not designed for use on the iPAQ |
| 01:33.23 | bluelightning | ipkg isn't very clear in the message it produces I agree |
| 01:33.52 | bluelightning | if you go ipkg info lirc you will see the suffix "_collie" - that means it's designed for one of the Sharp Zaurus models |
| 01:33.59 | nolidzh | so if it tells me something isn't found, I should assume that means, "Hey bugger off, even though you know this exists your platform won't run it" |
| 01:34.25 | bluelightning | well kind of :) |
| 01:34.32 | bluelightning | there aren't many packages like that I don't think |
| 01:34.52 | bluelightning | lirc is unusual in that it is very machine-specific |
| 01:35.14 | bluelightning | most of the time when it says the package doesn't exist, it really doesn't |
| 01:35.40 | nolidzh | lol interesting. |
| 01:36.02 | byrnerat101 | is it worth the 20-40$ to buy the sleeve and a cf card? |
| 01:36.33 | bluelightning | well the 3670 doesn't have SD, so I would say yes |
| 01:36.49 | bluelightning | you can use it to expand storage, but also you can use things like CF wifi cards |
| 01:36.53 | nolidzh | plus u can get an 802.11b card and such |
| 01:36.58 | nolidzh | bluelightning, :-p |
| 01:37.58 | byrnerat101 | should i get the cf card sleeve or the pcmcia sleeve? doesnt the pcmcia come with a pcmcia slot anda cf slot? |
| 01:40.34 | bluelightning | the pc card sleeve can use CF cards in an adapter (the adapters are really cheap) |
| 01:41.12 | bluelightning | only thing is you can't use the pc card sleeve with the bootldr for fast flashing, only the cf one works with that |
| 01:41.55 | byrnerat101 | what is fast flashing |
| 01:42.14 | bluelightning | as in faster installation of new images |
| 01:42.26 | bluelightning | otherwise you have to upload it over a serial cable |
| 01:42.30 | nolidzh | bluelightning, opie or gpe? |
| 01:42.46 | bluelightning | nolidzh: I use Opie myself |
| 01:43.02 | nolidzh | tried both, or opie from the getgo? |
| 01:43.58 | bluelightning | I used Opie from the get-go... I guess I just like the way it works |
| 01:44.16 | bluelightning | plus I have more of an inclination to develop for Qt/E than I do for Gtk |
| 01:44.46 | nolidzh | heh. I let myself get lazy and have more inclination for Windows |
| 01:45.24 | bluelightning | Windows CE drives me nuts... I have to use it at work |
| 01:45.40 | nolidzh | going back to Gentoo sometime in the next few weeks, now that I found the bloody drivers for my wireless card. |
| 01:45.54 | nolidzh | heh I meant on a full scale machine ;) |
| 01:46.04 | bluelightning | oh right :) |
| 01:46.29 | bluelightning | I've been using Gentoo full-time for nearly 2 years now, except when I want to play games that is |
| 01:47.24 | nolidzh | Gentoo is lovely, first distro I ever actually liked other than LFS |
| 01:47.35 | nolidzh | and LFS hardly qualifies as a distro |
| 01:52.14 | nolidzh | bluelightning, how do I switch terminals when outside of opie? |
| 01:52.26 | nolidzh | given the lack of Alt+F keys. heh. |
| 01:52.41 | bluelightning | I have no idea, sorry... |
| 01:53.24 | nolidzh | hmm interesting, "Please wait booting..." haha was the last thing he saw on his screen before yanking his hair out. |
| 02:02.04 | byrnerat101 | man i cant wait to get my pda now! I want to install linux on it so bad ;) |
| 02:08.57 | byrnerat101 | when i sync with my pc via usb... will i have internet access? |
| 02:25.55 | bluelightning | yes... usbnet is a bit broken at the moment, but you can have networking going over it when it works |
| 02:26.48 | byrnerat101 | lol, thats encouraging |
| 02:28.10 | bluelightning | shouldn't take too much to sort out, it worked well in 0.7.2, someone (possibly me) has to port some changes through to 0.8 |
| 02:28.59 | byrnerat101 | oh ok |
| 02:52.20 | emte | ugh , gentoo ... what a waste of time |
| 02:52.36 | emte | er oops did i type that |
| 02:52.45 | bluelightning | troll... :p |
| 02:52.52 | emte | lol |
| 02:53.00 | byrnerat101 | :-P |
| 02:53.14 | byrnerat101 | i love my gentoo |
| 02:53.50 | emte | you must have a lot of extra time |
| 02:54.08 | emte | how they managed to make it slower to build than LFS i'll never know |
| 02:54.47 | bluelightning | contrary to popular belief, most gentoo users do not spend their entire time compiling stuff |
| 02:55.00 | emte | i am aware of that now |
| 02:55.08 | byrnerat101 | i havnt compiled a new prog in a few months lol |
| 02:55.12 | bluelightning | neither |
| 02:55.23 | byrnerat101 | its so fast tho |
| 02:55.24 | bluelightning | through emerge that is |
| 02:55.28 | emte | but the precompiled stuff causes more problems then RH's rpms do |
| 02:55.29 | byrnerat101 | i only have 1 binary program |
| 02:55.53 | byrnerat101 | precompiled things dont cause to much problems |
| 02:55.57 | bluelightning | I'm not sure that my system is that much faster because of optimisation, as I have not measured it |
| 02:56.05 | bluelightning | I just like the ability to install the latest stuff easily |
| 02:56.14 | emte | lol |
| 02:56.28 | emte | i hope you never plan to install a server with it |
| 02:56.34 | bluelightning | I don't |
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| 02:56.38 | byrnerat101 | i switched from redhat and the speed is noticable |
| 02:56.55 | byrnerat101 | i run a server and my home pc with it ;) |
| 02:57.03 | emte | seems the gentoo developers dont have a clue about security |
| 02:57.03 | byrnerat101 | and my parents pc as well |
| 02:57.17 | byrnerat101 | ....? |
| 02:57.23 | bluelightning | emte: ? now you are trolling |
| 02:57.29 | emte | no |
| 02:57.39 | emte | know 4 people who tried |
| 02:57.51 | byrnerat101 | tried what |
| 02:58.16 | emte | they were rooted in under a month, the mailservers were exploited by spammers in under a week, etc |
| 02:58.20 | emte | the list goes on |
| 02:58.47 | emte | it would be different if tehy were loud mouthed kids |
| 02:59.13 | bluelightning | server admins != devs |
| 02:59.22 | byrnerat101 | hahahahahahahaha |
| 02:59.33 | byrnerat101 | that made me laugh so hard for some reason |
| 02:59.40 | emte | the devs are the ones who write the emerge metas |
| 02:59.44 | byrnerat101 | but your exactly correct |
| 02:59.49 | bluelightning | plus IIRC several other OSS project servers were compromised in the period around that incident |
| 03:00.23 | byrnerat101 | i give u a cstle, is your choice weather to close it up or open the door |
| 03:01.05 | emte | normally that is the case but when basic security structure is ingored ... |
| 03:01.31 | emte | or intentionalling allowing the holes |
| 03:02.17 | emte | apache2's authentication was disabled allowing world access |
| 03:02.30 | bluelightning | this is not the place to be discussing distro wars |
| 03:02.48 | emte | qmail was setup without a relay auth file |
| 03:02.51 | emte | true |
| 03:02.58 | emte | true |
| 03:03.39 | emte | tho i dont really advocate any distro anymore |
| 03:04.49 | emte | so i am guessing the guy who had problems with opie booting never read the bug page |
| 03:05.04 | nolidzh | I can do a full Gentoo install on my machine faster than an LFS isntall. Gentoo from fdisk to bootstrap to custom compilation to working X environment in 8 hours. |
| 03:05.11 | nolidzh | w/ no binarys. |
| 03:05.20 | emte | i can do LFS in 8 hours |
| 03:05.21 | bluelightning | emte: lots of people don't read it |
| 03:05.48 | bluelightning | emte: people just don't read docs before asking, it's a fact of life :) |
| 03:05.57 | emte | i know |
| 03:06.01 | nolidzh | I guess if I played with an LFS install more and more I could likely get quite fast at it, but why should I have to install more than once ;) |
| 03:06.04 | cshamis | how long to add gnome ? :) |
| 03:06.13 | emte | the stupid desktop race aquires morons |
| 03:06.41 | emte | nolidzh: its easire to upgrage glibc that way |
| 03:06.41 | bluelightning | emte: you started it :p |
| 03:06.45 | emte | easier* |
| 03:06.48 | nolidzh | cshamis, I don't like pixies or gnomes alive inside my box |
| 03:07.03 | emte | bluelightning: hell no |
| 03:07.24 | emte | the flood of morons started about 3 years ago |
| 03:07.40 | emte | ... maybe four |
| 03:07.48 | bluelightning | oh, you are talking in general |
| 03:07.55 | emte | yeah |
| 03:08.25 | emte | i miss the old linux in general |
| 03:08.44 | emte | oh well |
| 03:09.20 | cshamis | I miss the old internet more than the old linux... |
| 03:09.36 | cshamis | back when you needed three signatures from god to get an account... |
| 03:10.00 | cshamis | and woe be unto thee who broke ettiquette, or ftp'd durring working hours... |
| 03:10.14 | cshamis | ah... those were the dasy. |
| 03:12.07 | nolidzh | omg. someone name a stupid ipkg that should install super easy with 0 deps, just ipkg install bleh, and its done... |
| 03:12.23 | nolidzh | i dont care what it is, I would just like to see ipkg work ONCE |
| 03:13.09 | bluelightning | ipkg could definitely use some attention, I agree... but it does generally work |
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| 03:14.16 | nolidzh | bluelightning, well it could just be me, but everything I've tried to install has given me some sort of error and nothing new has been installed. |
| 03:14.46 | bluelightning | example? |
| 03:15.27 | nolidzh | brb |
| 03:19.34 | nolidzh | okay, got blueprobe to install. So.. |
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| 03:20.02 | nolidzh | bluelightning, it seems that I can install something w/ nodeps or the deps already met, now maybe I'm too used to emerge in gentoo fetching everything thats needed? |
| 03:22.50 | emte | nolidzh: ipkg does work IF you have all the feeds set |
| 03:23.07 | emte | otherwise it just complains and looks disfunctional |
| 03:23.35 | nolidzh | for instance, ipkg isntall opie-mediaplayer2 should in fact install opie-mediaplayer2 and all the deps? da? |
| 03:23.43 | bluelightning | yes |
| 03:23.46 | emte | yes adn it will |
| 03:23.49 | emte | and* |
| 03:23.50 | emte | IF |
| 03:24.04 | emte | the meta is right and the feeds/deps are availible |
| 03:28.24 | nolidzh | so basically what I'm learning that for instance if I goto ipkgfind.hh.o and I click on opie-mediaplayer and it says Feed: OPIE Unstable and I click that link, if it 404's thats my problem is the ipkg feed is incorrect? |
| 03:28.50 | bluelightning | what are the feed lines in your /etc/ipkg.conf? |
| 03:28.52 | emte | nolidzh: are you using the 8 series? |
| 03:29.02 | nolidzh | uh huh. |
| 03:29.13 | nolidzh | which I'm probably about to learn was stupid? |
| 03:29.15 | emte | if so i would not count on ANY of the ipkgfing ipks to work |
| 03:29.26 | emte | ipkgfind* |
| 03:29.42 | emte | they were all built under the 7.x series |
| 03:30.20 | bluelightning | not to mention that some the feeds have moved, not sure if ipkgfind has been updated for this |
| 03:30.23 | nolidzh | sorry to be a pain, but do educate me, how would I install opie-mediaplayer2, I can type "ipkg info opie-mediaplayer2" and it tells me all sorts of fun stuff, so I should in theory be able to install it? |
| 03:30.31 | bluelightning | yes |
| 03:30.39 | nolidzh | bluelightning, that would be a big big big fat NO they haven't. |
| 03:31.01 | bluelightning | I just checked, opie-mediaplayer2 installs fine on my 0.8 system |
| 03:31.31 | nolidzh | hmm, and I should simply be able to... "ipkg install opie-mediaplayer2" |
| 03:32.28 | emte | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8/ |
| 03:32.43 | emte | all the feeds are there including a new opie-mediaplayer2 |
| 03:32.50 | bluelightning | nolidzh: yes |
| 03:33.21 | nolidzh | Installing opie-mediaplayer2 (1.1.7-r2) to root... |
| 03:33.21 | nolidzh | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8/opie//opie-mediaplayer2_ |
| 03:33.21 | nolidzh | 1.1.7-r2_arm.ipk |
| 03:33.21 | nolidzh | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for opie-mediaplayer2: |
| 03:33.21 | nolidzh | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.46 | emte | src/gz opie http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8/opie/ |
| 03:34.00 | emte | put that in your /etc/ipkg/opie-feed.conf |
| 03:34.08 | emte | then run ipkg-update |
| 03:35.01 | nolidzh | should I be concerned that I don't have an opie-feed.conf ? |
| 03:35.23 | emte | no, i forgot the opie image uses the other moethod |
| 03:35.28 | emte | method |
| 03:35.28 | nolidzh | okie.. |
| 03:35.35 | nolidzh | the /etc/ipkg.conf method |
| 03:35.37 | emte | edit /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 03:35.52 | emte | tho you can use both |
| 03:36.05 | bluelightning | hmm... there is no package called opie-mediaplayer2-skin |
| 03:36.21 | bluelightning | there is opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default plus a few others |
| 03:36.36 | emte | means the meta is wrong |
| 03:36.43 | emte | and you will have to force the install |
| 03:37.07 | emte | ipkg -nodeps -force instal <blah> |
| 03:37.14 | emte | install* |
| 03:37.28 | emte | and send a note to the opie mailing list |
| 03:37.54 | nolidzh | bluelightning, running .8 stable or .8 pre? |
| 03:38.11 | bluelightning | .8 stable |
| 03:38.41 | nolidzh | and it installed for u just now eh? |
| 03:38.52 | bluelightning | yes |
| 03:39.09 | bluelightning | though I did have opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default already installed (opie-mediaplayer1 installs it) |
| 03:39.36 | bluelightning | perhaps try installing opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default first |
| 03:40.05 | bluelightning | (I know it shouldn't be this hard, but things are a little confused at the moment) |
| 03:40.27 | nolidzh | well, I only truly need the features of opie-mp1, so I'll work on that before removing the hair from my head. |
| 03:40.53 | nolidzh | bluelightning, lol so its not that I've become an idiot, its that everything is a lil outta whack combined w/ my idiocity? |
| 03:41.09 | emte | a lot of things are out of whack |
| 03:41.29 | emte | the metafiles have undergone quite a few new changes |
| 03:41.44 | emte | renaming, licenses, etc |
| 03:41.58 | bluelightning | plus the server problems have not made things easy... but we're getting there |
| 03:42.48 | emte | generally licensing has caused the most problems ... |
| 03:42.52 | nolidzh | well so far so good on an "ipkg install opie-mediaplayer1" |
| 03:43.20 | emte | since the tarball server will not cache files without a license |
| 03:43.52 | nolidzh | An error ocurred, return value: 26. (lots of "this wants to install this, but this1 has already installed it") |
| 03:44.11 | emte | combined with fd.org going down ... |
| 03:44.13 | nolidzh | however the executable opieplayer now exists on the system. |
| 03:44.25 | nolidzh | so thats a step in the right direction |
| 03:44.36 | bluelightning | nolidzh: yes, that's ok I got that too |
| 03:45.01 | nolidzh | well it won't run, something about a missing skin. I think my PDA was really a character in Silence of the Lambs... |
| 03:45.11 | emte | lol |
| 03:45.21 | nolidzh | in the middle of the night when I'm sleeping if it starts saying "It puts the lotion on its skin" I should run right? |
| 03:45.26 | emte | bluelightning: you have a kbd ? |
| 03:46.04 | bluelightning | I have three :) |
| 03:46.11 | emte | for your ipaq? |
| 03:46.19 | bluelightning | Targus Stowaway, Targus Stowaway IR, and Belkin SnapNType |
| 03:46.21 | bluelightning | yes |
| 03:46.24 | emte | ah |
| 03:46.28 | emte | you get any to work? |
| 03:46.40 | nolidzh | think this would be supported by any of the mircokbd drivers http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5741144986&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT ? |
| 03:47.14 | bluelightning | I have modified kbdd for the stowaway and stapntype, but I don't think the stowaway ir can be used without someone fixing IR in the kernel |
| 03:47.33 | emte | hmm |
| 03:47.38 | emte | what did you modify? |
| 03:47.47 | emte | all my attempts havent worked |
| 03:47.57 | emte | for eiterh of my kbds |
| 03:47.59 | emte | eitehr* |
| 03:48.04 | bluelightning | nolidzh: try ipkg install -force-overwrite opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default |
| 03:48.20 | bluelightning | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/kbdd |
| 03:48.22 | bluelightning | it's all there |
| 03:49.10 | bluelightning | emte: what keyboards do you have |
| 03:49.12 | emte | yeah thats a nogo |
| 03:49.29 | emte | the stowaway and a snapntype |
| 03:49.40 | bluelightning | what a coincidence :) |
| 03:49.43 | emte | refuses to find the serial port |
| 03:50.03 | bluelightning | have you stopped the serial port being used as a terminal? |
| 03:50.21 | emte | yeah |
| 03:50.33 | emte | i didnt try your package tho |
| 03:51.10 | nolidzh | hmmm, still tells me opieplayer2 skin not found, please install an opieplayer2 skin. |
| 03:51.13 | nolidzh | evil machine. |
| 03:51.25 | bluelightning | did you install the package I suggested? |
| 03:51.40 | emte | no, i was just reading that part :) |
| 03:51.46 | emte | i did everything else |
| 03:51.57 | bluelightning | sorry I was talking to nolidzh :) |
| 03:52.00 | emte | this is the first time i've saw this page actually |
| 03:52.09 | emte | aha |
| 03:52.21 | bluelightning | emte: still, that page should get you going |
| 03:52.28 | nolidzh | bluelightning, the force-overwrite, yes. |
| 03:53.04 | emte | yeah it sounds liek the patches are the problem |
| 03:53.22 | nolidzh | installing a different skin now :-/ |
| 03:53.23 | emte | was sort of the conclusion i had about why it wasnt working eitehr |
| 03:54.24 | emte | well if this works then i only have one problem left |
| 03:54.56 | emte | making my pcmcia sleeve cooperate :) |
| 03:55.24 | emte | it kinda stopped when i fixed the CF sleeve |
| 03:56.54 | emte | time to run to the store |