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| 01:20.04 | clh | hi |
| 01:20.18 | clh | where does ipkg put the ipk files after downloading? |
| 01:21.31 | clh | my root filesyste is full |
| 01:28.17 | clh | i can't even ipkg remove anything cause the device is so full |
| 01:28.22 | clh | i have no personal files on it |
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| 04:06.32 | pjoseph133 | Anybody out there with experience loading familiar on iPaq h5555? |
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| 06:13.02 | daneel | Is anybody monitoring? |
| 06:13.11 | bluelightning | yep :) |
| 06:13.14 | daneel | cool |
| 06:13.33 | daneel | Having a bit of a problem w familiar 0.8 in ipaq h3650 |
| 06:13.43 | bluelightning | what kind of problem? |
| 06:13.46 | daneel | well.. |
| 06:13.57 | daneel | I have an expansion sleeve where I put in a cf card |
| 06:14.10 | daneel | I need to install ipkg's there with the "dest" option |
| 06:14.24 | daneel | so I formatted it with an ext2 filesystem in my laptop |
| 06:14.29 | daneel | and put it in |
| 06:14.43 | daneel | but the cf card is being mounted as read-only |
| 06:14.52 | daneel | hang on, I'll post my /etc/fstab |
| 06:15.30 | daneel | /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf auto |
| 06:15.31 | daneel | defaults,noauto,noatime,user,exec,suid 0 0 |
| 06:15.41 | daneel | that's the line for my fstab |
| 06:15.48 | bluelightning | I read a message on the mailing list about this, but I'm not sure why it's mounted read-only... |
| 06:15.56 | bluelightning | what happens if you do the following: |
| 06:16.04 | bluelightning | mount /dev/hda1 -o remount,rw |
| 06:16.05 | bluelightning | ? |
| 06:16.08 | daneel | hang on |
| 06:17.24 | daneel | nope |
| 06:17.29 | daneel | tried to write a file |
| 06:17.36 | daneel | says "read-only file system" |
| 06:17.49 | daneel | even after doing mount -o remount rw |
| 06:17.55 | daneel | odd |
| 06:18.01 | daneel | did I misformat? |
| 06:18.10 | bluelightning | strange |
| 06:18.29 | bluelightning | I wouldn't have thought you could misformat, it's pretty simple :) |
| 06:18.42 | daneel | yeah |
| 06:18.54 | daneel | how di i check the fs? |
| 06:19.04 | bluelightning | how about unmounting it (umount /dev/hda1) then mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf |
| 06:19.13 | daneel | hang on |
| 06:20.15 | daneel | YAY |
| 06:20.18 | daneel | that worked |
| 06:20.24 | daneel | I can write now |
| 06:20.37 | daneel | but how do I edit fstab so that it always mounts this way |
| 06:20.39 | daneel | ? |
| 06:20.46 | bluelightning | great... I wonder if adding rw to the options in fstab would work as well? |
| 06:20.55 | daneel | I did |
| 06:21.04 | daneel | didn't work then |
| 06:21.13 | daneel | I'll try now, hang on |
| 06:21.51 | bluelightning | otherwise I suspect "auto" may be the problem... though changing that to ext2 would prevent fat-formatted cards from working |
| 06:22.02 | emte | default,user shoudl be enough |
| 06:22.21 | daneel | no biggie there, as I won't be usin any other cards |
| 06:22.51 | bluelightning | emte: but that's not much different from what's already there |
| 06:23.04 | daneel | I culd comment out the "auto" line, then put this line with ext2 in it, then if I put in other cards, simply uncomment it out again |
| 06:23.15 | bluelightning | emte: none of the other flags could affect read/write I wouldn't have thought |
| 06:23.23 | bluelightning | daneel: yep that would work |
| 06:23.45 | bluelightning | daneel: it would be nice if we could figure out one setting that would work for both |
| 06:24.07 | daneel | true |
| 06:24.35 | daneel | but the key reason why I put in the cf was that there's no space left in the internal memory for anything |
| 06:24.57 | bluelightning | yes, that is becoming a problem |
| 06:25.20 | daneel | only with the old PDA's |
| 06:25.48 | bluelightning | still, there are quite a few people out there with those models |
| 06:25.52 | daneel | the pity is that it would be more efficient if we culd boot off of the CF card always |
| 06:26.02 | daneel | instead of from internal memory |
| 06:26.09 | daneel | I believe intimate linbux does that |
| 06:26.17 | bluelightning | it is possible, but I have not done it myself |
| 06:26.37 | daneel | can I config the bootloader in familiar so that this can be done? |
| 06:27.06 | bluelightning | I think it's more a matter of getting the image set up correctly on the CF card |
| 06:27.25 | bluelightning | bootldr supports booting from CF, by pressing one of the buttons |
| 06:27.35 | daneel | Yeah, I saw |
| 06:27.48 | daneel | but how do I organize all the files in the cf? |
| 06:27.58 | bluelightning | I don't know I'm afraid |
| 06:28.08 | daneel | oh, ok |
| 06:29.03 | bluelightning | There is this page: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BootingLinuxFromCF |
| 06:29.12 | bluelightning | it's probably out of date though |
| 06:30.05 | daneel | I'll read it |
| 06:30.13 | daneel | anyways, so in fstab, I enter /dev/hda1 ext2 <then what/> |
| 06:30.31 | daneel | defaults, user? |
| 06:31.03 | bluelightning | just copy the old line and change auto to ext2 |
| 06:31.51 | daneel | I did |
| 06:31.59 | daneel | entered mount /mnt/cf |
| 06:32.08 | daneel | failed! |
| 06:32.15 | daneel | invalid argument?!?! |
| 06:32.27 | bluelightning | paste your modifed line in again |
| 06:32.33 | bluelightning | *modified |
| 06:32.42 | daneel | hang on |
| 06:34.08 | daneel | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.17 | daneel | the brackets are not really there |
| 06:34.33 | bluelightning | "defauts" ? |
| 06:34.40 | bluelightning | oh and remove the last comma |
| 06:34.55 | daneel | ok, whoops! |
| 06:35.31 | daneel | nope, still says invalid argument?! |
| 06:36.34 | daneel | It now reads: /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf ext2 defaults,noauto,noatime,user,exec 0 0 |
| 06:37.13 | bluelightning | I'm not sure... there is clearly something wrong with the line still |
| 06:37.36 | bluelightning | I have to go for about 20 mins, if you're still here when I come back I'll try to help you |
| 06:37.49 | daneel | cool, thanks. I'll eat dinner |
| 06:37.54 | daneel | see ya |
| 06:38.23 | bluelightning | I would suggest (1) look at output of the dmesg command, and (2) just try copying the old line and doing the change again |
| 06:38.28 | bluelightning | bbl |
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| 07:25.56 | daneel | Hi |
| 07:25.59 | daneel | I'm back |
| 07:27.04 | bluelightning | me too |
| 07:27.50 | daneel | ok, so the cf card is writable, but not by reading fstab so far |
| 07:28.04 | bluelightning | yup |
| 07:28.43 | daneel | right. Maybe I should put the unmount, mount -t command in rc.local so it runs everytime it boots |
| 07:28.59 | daneel | but I didn't see an rc.local anywhere in /etc |
| 07:29.27 | bluelightning | hang on a sec... the fstab line should be able to be fixed |
| 07:29.37 | daneel | ok |
| 07:29.55 | daneel | It now reads: /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf ext2 defaults,noauto,noatime,user,exec 0 0 |
| 07:30.13 | bluelightning | right |
| 07:30.22 | bluelightning | does dmesg say anything relevant? |
| 07:30.41 | daneel | hang on |
| 07:32.50 | daneel | all I get is wifi0: invalid skb->cb magic (0x00000000, expected 0xf08a36a2) |
| 07:32.57 | daneel | nothing abt the filesystems |
| 07:34.28 | bluelightning | well I'm confused, if that's what you've got then it should work |
| 07:34.37 | bluelightning | try: |
| 07:34.41 | bluelightning | umount /dev/hda1 |
| 07:35.04 | bluelightning | mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf -o defaults,noauto,noatime,user,exec |
| 07:35.31 | daneel | errror: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /mnt/cf failed: Invalid argument |
| 07:35.51 | daneel | :( |
| 07:35.55 | bluelightning | ok then, I would suggest removing the options one at a time until you find the culprit |
| 07:36.00 | daneel | right |
| 07:37.55 | daneel | ok |
| 07:37.59 | daneel | this worked |
| 07:38.16 | daneel | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.33 | daneel | sorry |
| 07:38.43 | daneel | this worked: mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf -o defaults,noauto,noatime |
| 07:38.51 | daneel | user & exec were the problems perhaps |
| 07:39.08 | bluelightning | both? or just one of them? |
| 07:39.44 | bluelightning | I hope it's not exec, or you won't have much luck using it to install stuff on I would think |
| 07:40.11 | daneel | ok, I'll try putting exec in |
| 07:41.17 | daneel | that didn't work! |
| 07:41.21 | daneel | I put exec in |
| 07:41.26 | daneel | and it mounted it read-only! |
| 07:41.51 | daneel | very confused |
| 07:42.09 | bluelightning | ok here's a test: leave out exec, and try making & running a shell script on the card |
| 07:42.24 | daneel | ok |
| 07:42.26 | daneel | hang on |
| 07:44.38 | daneel | This is very frustrating |
| 07:44.51 | daneel | I mounted cf with the following options in fstab: |
| 07:45.21 | daneel | (/dev/hda1 /mnt/cf auto defaults,noauto,noatime 0 0) |
| 07:45.29 | daneel | it was read-only!! |
| 07:45.35 | daneel | even without the exec |
| 07:45.41 | daneel | all of a sudden |
| 07:46.00 | bluelightning | try adding rw? |
| 07:46.11 | bluelightning | or removing defaults |
| 07:48.48 | daneel | nope, this line mounted read-only: /dev/hda1 /mnt/cf auto noauto,noatime,rw 0 0 |
| 07:49.16 | bluelightning | hmm... well I guess for now, just set it to ext2 and I will file a bug report |
| 07:49.42 | daneel | ok, hang on |
| 07:51.54 | daneel | yeah, that seems to be working |
| 07:52.06 | daneel | but, if this is a bug, surely others must've had this problem |
| 07:52.16 | daneel | nobody has said anything? |
| 07:53.37 | bluelightning | I guess most people don't use ext2 on their CF cards... I don't |
| 07:54.13 | daneel | The only reason I used ext2 was that I couldn't install ipkgs to vfat |
| 07:54.27 | daneel | the installer kept saying, couldn't create symlinks |
| 07:54.33 | daneel | and I had to symlink them manually |
| 07:54.34 | bluelightning | yeah, I haven't needed to do that so far |
| 07:54.38 | daneel | oh, ok |
| 07:54.49 | daneel | the newer ipaq's have more mem I suppose |
| 07:55.28 | bluelightning | yeah... it does fill up eventually, but I still have about 5mb free with a whole lot of apps installed on my H3970 |
| 07:55.39 | daneel | too bad I'm poor |
| 07:56.03 | daneel | can't afford them newfangled ipaqs |
| 07:56.21 | bluelightning | mine's not really that new anymore :) I bought it about 2 years ago |
| 07:56.58 | daneel | I got mine from ebay for like 100 bucks |
| 07:57.04 | daneel | it's really old |
| 07:57.54 | bluelightning | I've used a 3670 at work (running WinCE)... it's OK |
| 07:58.22 | daneel | yeah, is it possible to upgrade the internal memory, or is that embedded in? |
| 07:58.26 | bluelightning | that particular one is a bit beaten up though... stylus won't stay in and the battery doesn't last more than 20 mins without external power |
| 07:58.34 | emte | buy memory chips and stack them |
| 07:58.49 | daneel | internally? |
| 07:58.52 | emte | you can double or tripple your ram |
| 07:58.55 | emte | yeah |
| 07:58.59 | daneel | you mean like RAID them or something? |
| 07:59.06 | bluelightning | as I understand it yes, you can upgrade them or have it upgraded... google for "ipaq upgrade" |
| 07:59.16 | daneel | ah, interesting |
| 07:59.17 | emte | i mean just solder |
| 07:59.38 | daneel | Oh |
| 07:59.39 | emte | you can stack them one on another |
| 07:59.47 | bluelightning | obviously you have to be pretty confident and careful if you want to DIY :) |
| 07:59.48 | emte | and solder pin to pin |
| 08:00.14 | emte | trying to see if i can actually get some of the new 512 chips |
| 08:00.34 | daneel | so I can use a normal solder? |
| 08:00.41 | daneel | with flux and all that? |
| 08:00.43 | emte | you could try |
| 08:00.49 | emte | i'd use paste myself |
| 08:01.12 | emte | "cook" the stack and then solder in |
| 08:01.20 | daneel | right |
| 08:01.22 | daneel | I can do that |
| 08:01.37 | emte | from what i know your chips MUST match |
| 08:01.44 | emte | in the stack |
| 08:02.11 | daneel | but how do those mem chips connect? Will the pins fit, or do I have to do any threading or something? |
| 08:02.44 | daneel | Jyst saw this http://www.palmpilotupgrade.com/pocketpc/prices.html |
| 08:02.46 | emte | they are SMT/SMD "L" |
| 08:03.37 | daneel | afraid u'll have 2 educate me on the jargon :) |
| 08:03.47 | emte | reminds me, bluelightning how were you capturing the hex bindings for keyboards |
| 08:04.12 | emte | they are surface mount with L shaped feet |
| 08:04.45 | bluelightning | emte: ? |
| 08:05.06 | emte | looks like my snapntype might not be |
| 08:05.08 | bluelightning | emte: I just pressed keys and edited keyboards.h as appropriate |
| 08:05.15 | emte | hmm |
| 08:05.18 | daneel | hey, I got pics of this "stacking" business:http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/times2tech-ipaq256mb-upgrade-review.html |
| 08:05.34 | emte | i get different output depending on what keyboard i try to load it with ... |
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| 08:06.04 | daneel | They're saying something odd |
| 08:06.15 | daneel | By itself, the Compaq iPAQ is only capable of recognizing a maximum of 64MBs of memory. To get around this restriction, a special software driver must be installed to allow the rest of the memory to become available |
| 08:06.26 | daneel | they'll do it in WINCE |
| 08:06.33 | daneel | can this be done in familiar? |
| 08:06.54 | emte | linux already supports unrecognised ram |
| 08:07.11 | emte | has for a long time |
| 08:07.23 | daneel | oh, so this is not a hardware thing |
| 08:07.28 | daneel | sorry, I misunderstood |
| 08:07.52 | emte | it is and it isnt |
| 08:08.30 | emte | its a "bios-type" issue |
| 08:09.14 | daneel | so if the bios can't detect the extra memory, but linux can when it boots up? |
| 08:09.40 | bluelightning | daneel: you want your email address on this bug? |
| 08:09.44 | bluelightning | (report) |
| 08:09.47 | daneel | sure |
| 08:09.48 | emte | linux doesnt always read/accept what the bios tells it |
| 08:10.01 | bluelightning | daneel: ok, what is it? |
| 08:10.14 | daneel | put the email: hariseldon99@gmail.com |
| 08:10.32 | daneel | emte: so linux independently checks for memory also? |
| 08:11.19 | daneel | bluelightning: so how're bugs reported? Do the familiar developers have a bugzilla-thingie? |
| 08:11.24 | emte | you can tell it to, yes |
| 08:12.21 | bluelightning | daneel: yep - http://handhelds.org/bugzilla/ |
| 08:12.41 | daneel | right, I just saw it |
| 08:12.55 | bluelightning | daneel: http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1267 |
| 08:13.08 | bluelightning | you'll have to set yourself up an account and add yourself as CC on that bug, it wouldn't let me do it by email |
| 08:13.28 | bluelightning | I probably should have let you add it really, but it doesn't matter now :) |
| 08:13.44 | daneel | I've never used bugzilla before |
| 08:15.03 | bluelightning | it's pretty easy to use... I prefer a different package myself, but bugzilla is OK |
| 08:16.43 | bluelightning | anyway, I gotta go fix one of our servers at work |
| 08:17.09 | daneel | ok, thanks for all ur help, man! |
| 08:17.20 | bluelightning | np :) |
| 08:17.41 | bluelightning | actually, crap... it's too late to do it now... never mind |
| 08:18.42 | bluelightning | emte: so what was that about your snapntype? |
| 08:19.20 | emte | i get different output depending on what keyboard i try to load it with ... |
| 08:19.35 | emte | was trying to figure out what the keycodes were |
| 08:19.55 | bluelightning | emte: "keyboard i try to load it with" ? what do you mean by that? |
| 08:20.20 | emte | if i load snapntype, fellowes, stowaway etc |
| 08:20.50 | bluelightning | well if your keyboard is a snapntype, you would only use snapntype I would have thought... ? |
| 08:21.57 | bluelightning | the protocols are different, not just the keycodes |
| 08:23.42 | emte | gives different responses |
| 08:23.47 | emte | dunno why |
| 08:23.58 | emte | i was thinking about taking it apart to check the board |
| 08:27.29 | bluelightning | emte: hmm... do you have a digicam to take a picture of the keyboard? |
| 08:28.13 | emte | hmm ... the auction might still be cached ... sec |
| 08:32.05 | emte | no idea where my gf hid the camera ... maybe i'll scan it |
| 08:36.49 | emte | good thing scanners can do small 3d stuff |
| 08:37.00 | bluelightning | emte: thanks |
| 08:37.17 | bluelightning | emte: I'm not sure that that is an actual snapntype... it looks sort of like one |
| 08:37.32 | bluelightning | emte: I think it's a Micro Innovations Datapad... |
| 08:37.40 | emte | could be |
| 08:37.51 | emte | there really isnt anything else from markings |
| 08:37.54 | emte | for* |
| 08:38.12 | emte | one of the reasons why i was going to take it apart |
| 08:38.13 | bluelightning | coincidentally I've ordered one of those from provantage the other day |
| 08:38.30 | emte | lol |
| 08:38.46 | bluelightning | just for testing of course :) |
| 08:38.47 | emte | i think i paid $5/6 |
| 08:39.00 | bluelightning | yeah, it was that much from provantage supposedly new |
| 08:39.22 | emte | hmm |
| 08:39.24 | bluelightning | I was ordering a 5gb pc card hard drive and it was so cheap I added it to the order |
| 08:39.31 | emte | lol |
| 08:39.44 | emte | they didnt throw it in for free? |
| 08:39.56 | emte | i can t imagine the pc card being cheap |
| 08:40.00 | bluelightning | for what they're charging on shipping they ought to... |
| 08:41.10 | bluelightning | it's $138.59 USD... shipping for the entire order is costing me $71.15 (!) |
| 08:41.23 | emte | ... |
| 08:41.33 | emte | you live in the middle of nowhere? |
| 08:41.45 | bluelightning | New Zealand |
| 08:41.52 | bluelightning | so yes, I suppose :) |
| 08:41.54 | emte | even still .. |
| 08:42.35 | emte | hey, you know what type of battery this thing takes then? |
| 08:42.36 | bluelightning | I was going to get the same card from ebay, but a lot of sellers on ebay either won't ship to here or won't accept a reasonable payment method that I can use |
| 08:42.45 | emte | ugh |
| 08:42.51 | bluelightning | I wasn't aware it used batteries... |
| 08:43.29 | emte | mine has what looks like a 9V connector but the spot is only ...3/4" deep |
| 08:43.47 | bluelightning | weird... I would have thought it would be serial powered like the rest of them |
| 08:44.03 | emte | yeah the A/C is on the other side |
| 08:44.11 | emte | and it does pull serial power |
| 08:44.42 | bluelightning | is the 9V connector facing so that the 9v could stick out the back? |
| 08:44.52 | emte | bottom |
| 08:45.03 | emte | would sit in your right hand |
| 08:45.17 | emte | when you hold it to type |
| 08:45.44 | bluelightning | maybe it's for emergency backup power |
| 08:45.50 | emte | could be |
| 08:48.42 | bluelightning | oh well, if you haven't figured out the protocol by the time I get mine I'm sure I'll be able to |
| 08:57.21 | emte | yeah, we will see on how much time i have |
| 09:00.02 | bluelightning | here you go: http://www.mic-innovations.com/mi/details.cfm?id=TKB170CQ |
| 09:16.10 | emte | yeah its like you guessed |
| 09:17.02 | emte | anyway sleep time |
| 09:17.22 | bluelightning | cya |
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| 10:47.39 | Vertex | hi =) |
| 10:50.04 | Vertex | anyone here? |
| 10:50.56 | mze | yap |
| 10:51.50 | Vertex | gots a question |
| 10:51.51 | Vertex | =) |
| 10:52.25 | Vertex | is it possible to get sound working on an ipaq 3970 with 0.8? |
| 10:53.04 | Vertex | tried almost everything could find on the net, icluding the unstable stuff |
| 10:55.08 | mze | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FamiliarReleaseNotes |
| 10:56.25 | Vertex | did those, no luck, although i did have it sorta working with opie 1.7, but only now and then would it function |
| 10:56.36 | Vertex | gpe no luck at all |
| 10:56.53 | mze | no lcue |
| 10:57.05 | Vertex | bluetooth seemed to be a problem with opie as well, no problems with gpe there |
| 10:57.43 | Vertex | is there good nvigation software like tomtom for linux pda? woth maps from the benelux |
| 10:58.32 | Vertex | was thinking .. is it possible to rip tom tom go of of one of those devices and copy it onto a pda |
| 11:26.22 | Vertex | damn |
| 11:26.35 | Vertex | trying to restore wince ->> img_size is too large for region: 01F80000 |
| 11:27.07 | Vertex | aargh |
| 11:27.09 | Vertex | =S |
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| 15:53.00 | mze | i've mmc_h5400 and the other modules loaded, but still dont have /dev/mmc/disc |
| 15:53.04 | mze | any ideas? |
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| 18:36.42 | Felix[tm] | Hi, is there another way to fix the Compacr Flash/PCMCIA issue then downloading http://handhelds.org/download/feeds/2.4.19/ide-modules_2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37_ipaqsa.ipk? |
| 18:37.37 | Felix[tm] | Hm wait, it works now... strange |
| 18:37.57 | Felix[tm] | seems I have to ask a stupid question to make things work... |
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| 19:16.10 | ShortWave | Hey all |
| 19:16.17 | ShortWave | Where can I find a list of supported hardware? |
| 19:16.26 | ShortWave | I want to know if I can get my handheld working |
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| 20:23.31 | onions | eh... |
| 20:36.27 | onions | Does anyone know if Familiar supports the iPQ 4150 series |
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| 20:51.06 | cyrus | is this room open for question about familiar installing |
| 20:52.50 | cyrus | ???? |
| 20:53.32 | cyrus | I was just wondering if anyone has had problems with installing famiiar on an 5455? |
| 20:53.48 | cyrus | my install will not boot |
| 20:54.06 | cyrus | any help would be great |
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| 21:52.08 | amoeba | Hi all |
| 21:52.58 | amoeba | Maybe somebody can help me here!?! |
| 21:53.20 | amoeba | I want to try familiar on my old ipaq 3100... |
| 21:53.44 | amoeba | but I don't which is th best version to try... |
| 21:55.32 | amoeba | ...ok, I'll retry to ask these questions in the future... |
| 21:55.38 | amoeba | thanks |