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| 06:39.02 | Hegge` | hiho bluelightning |
| 06:39.11 | bluelightning | hi Hegge` |
| 06:39.15 | Hegge` | sup? |
| 06:39.41 | bluelightning | not bad, yourself? |
| 06:39.47 | Hegge` | btw got linux running now .... hehe but it inst' that stable i wonder if u can help me |
| 06:39.51 | Hegge` | good here |
| 06:39.54 | Hegge` | :D |
| 06:39.59 | bluelightning | I'll do my best :) |
| 06:40.02 | Hegge` | if u have time that is |
| 06:40.04 | Hegge` | :P |
| 06:40.16 | bluelightning | yeah actually I'm just sitting here wondering what to do next |
| 06:40.33 | Hegge` | do i ever gonna have a connection between the ipaq and usb? |
| 06:40.41 | Hegge` | cuz.. i dont have usb |
| 06:40.52 | Hegge` | serial |
| 06:40.54 | Hegge` | i mean |
| 06:40.54 | Hegge` | :P |
| 06:41.14 | bluelightning | oh... erm... so you haven't been able to log in over serial? |
| 06:41.20 | Hegge` | yep |
| 06:41.25 | Hegge` | did go to a friend |
| 06:41.31 | Hegge` | hehe |
| 06:41.39 | bluelightning | ? |
| 06:41.51 | Hegge` | did it at a friends house |
| 06:41.58 | bluelightning | oh right |
| 06:42.06 | Hegge` | but |
| 06:42.16 | Hegge` | it seems that i got out of space |
| 06:42.17 | Hegge` | :P |
| 06:42.26 | Hegge` | got 15 meg mounted on / |
| 06:42.29 | Hegge` | hehe |
| 06:42.55 | Hegge` | and i got som errors while pkgupdate |
| 06:43.00 | Hegge` | ipkg update |
| 06:43.03 | Hegge` | and upgrade |
| 06:43.04 | Hegge` | :P |
| 06:43.15 | bluelightning | ok, have you followed the release notes for that stuff? |
| 06:43.20 | bluelightning | or are these different errors? |
| 06:43.38 | Hegge` | havent seen any reasle notes |
| 06:43.41 | Hegge` | yet |
| 06:43.46 | bluelightning | ~Familiar 0.8 |
| 06:43.47 | ibot | i heard familiar 0.8 is at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FamiliarReleaseNotes |
| 06:43.58 | Hegge` | but my kernel dindt get installed , the package manager says |
| 06:43.58 | bluelightning | lots of fixes there |
| 06:44.02 | Hegge` | ok |
| 06:44.18 | Hegge` | do i have to fix that ? |
| 06:44.39 | bluelightning | until we release 0.8.1, yeah |
| 06:45.04 | bluelightning | re the kernel, it is installed, it's just the postinst script fails |
| 06:45.06 | Hegge` | btw got gpe running |
| 06:45.11 | bluelightning | great :) |
| 06:45.15 | Hegge` | :) |
| 06:45.53 | Hegge` | i cant get connected to internet whit out an serial connection? |
| 06:46.00 | Hegge` | is that right? |
| 06:46.23 | bluelightning | you can connect to the internet over any network link (serial, usb, bluetooth, wifi, ir, etc.) |
| 06:46.34 | Hegge` | ah ok |
| 06:46.46 | Hegge` | it seems that evrything wasnt installed |
| 06:46.54 | bluelightning | the releasenotes and http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UsbNet tell you what you need to do to get usb networking to work |
| 06:47.01 | Hegge` | sience i didnt have enough space |
| 06:47.18 | Hegge` | i dont have any file explorer , games , allala |
| 06:47.29 | Hegge` | ok thanks |
| 06:47.31 | bluelightning | hmm... you may want to read http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/slim8 |
| 06:47.35 | bluelightning | to get some space back |
| 06:47.39 | Hegge` | hahah |
| 06:47.41 | Hegge` | ok |
| 06:47.45 | Hegge` | thanks |
| 06:47.46 | Hegge` | :D |
| 06:48.03 | bluelightning | I believe there is a way to move some of it to an external card (CF/SD) but I haven't ever tried that myself |
| 06:48.16 | Hegge` | okay |
| 06:48.46 | Hegge` | gonna eat some thing and try these steps , i'll come back to you if i got any probs. ok? |
| 06:48.47 | Hegge` | :D |
| 06:48.52 | bluelightning | sure :) |
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| 06:52.26 | Hegge` | how do i uninstall packages ? |
| 06:52.32 | Hegge` | it didnt say |
| 06:52.32 | Hegge` | :P |
| 06:52.51 | Robot_ | ipkg uninstall ? let me check |
| 06:52.58 | Hegge` | ok |
| 06:53.03 | bluelightning | ipkg remove |
| 06:53.05 | Hegge` | i ah |
| 06:53.06 | Hegge` | ty |
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| 06:57.26 | Hegge` | haha omg |
| 06:57.35 | Hegge` | i cant even delete |
| 06:57.52 | Hegge` | i dont have enough space to write configfiles |
| 06:57.53 | Hegge` | :D |
| 06:59.19 | bluelightning | hmm... that could be a problem |
| 06:59.37 | n8_sl8er | i'm trying to get bluetooth to work with familiar 0.8 (I've read the release notes) does anyone mind if I bug them with questions? |
| 06:59.51 | Hegge` | yeah |
| 06:59.53 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:00.02 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: I haven't tried getting bluetooth working yet so I can't really help you myself |
| 07:00.35 | Hegge` | n8_sl8er try in #handhelds.org |
| 07:01.11 | Hegge` | bluelightning have any idea ho to fix this ? |
| 07:01.15 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:01.21 | n8_sl8er | Ah, OK. do you think more people will be able to help me there? |
| 07:01.26 | Hegge` | yes |
| 07:01.27 | bluelightning | Hegge`: I can only suggest moving something off temporarily |
| 07:01.28 | Hegge` | many more |
| 07:01.53 | n8_sl8er | alright, thanks. I'll hang around here as well. |
| 07:01.55 | Hegge` | bluelightning and how do i do that? |
| 07:02.05 | Hegge` | n8_sl8er do that :D |
| 07:02.30 | bluelightning | Hegge`: you'd have to move it onto a card or your PC via NFS or something like that |
| 07:02.53 | Hegge` | :8 |
| 07:02.56 | Hegge` | :( |
| 07:03.00 | Hegge` | thats not good |
| 07:03.00 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:03.40 | Hegge` | and for that i need a serial connection right? |
| 07:03.50 | bluelightning | any network connection |
| 07:03.55 | Hegge` | usb :D ? |
| 07:04.48 | Hegge` | well i cant get usb runing cuz i cant recomplie my kernel cuz i dont have any kernel or space |
| 07:04.52 | Hegge` | so .... |
| 07:04.54 | Hegge` | thats hard |
| 07:04.55 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:05.47 | bluelightning | right... well if you have serial you can use ppp |
| 07:05.48 | n8_sl8er | hegge, do you have a usb only dock? |
| 07:06.17 | Hegge` | i dont have a serial on my computer |
| 07:06.26 | Hegge` | i have a new motherboard |
| 07:06.27 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:06.31 | bluelightning | I see... well I think you have well and truly painted yourself into a corner :) |
| 07:06.33 | n8_sl8er | oh. hrm... |
| 07:06.34 | bluelightning | :( |
| 07:06.46 | Hegge` | :'( |
| 07:07.14 | Hegge` | better install pocketpc again until i get my other computer |
| 07:07.23 | Hegge` | or a jacket and cf card |
| 07:08.26 | bluelightning | you could delete /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/* ... save you about 2mb |
| 07:08.36 | Hegge` | ok |
| 07:08.48 | Hegge` | rm -rf /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/* ? |
| 07:08.48 | bluelightning | and you can get it back by just doing an ipkg update once you have made some more room |
| 07:09.05 | bluelightning | no need to -rf, just rm /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/* |
| 07:09.12 | Hegge` | ah |
| 07:09.12 | Hegge` | ok |
| 07:09.24 | bluelightning | best to be careful with -rf |
| 07:09.36 | Hegge` | yeah :D |
| 07:10.27 | n8_sl8er | does your new motherboard support bluetooth? then we could be in the same boat ;-) |
| 07:10.42 | Hegge` | nope |
| 07:10.59 | Hegge` | you need a bluetooth module |
| 07:11.00 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:12.08 | Hegge` | freespace 0.0meg |
| 07:12.09 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:12.14 | Hegge` | damn i hate that |
| 07:12.14 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:12.54 | bluelightning | doesn't make any sense |
| 07:13.22 | Hegge` | know |
| 07:13.23 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:13.43 | Hegge` | probably i dindnt have enough space to install any lage lists? |
| 07:13.55 | n8_sl8er | hmm. Ok. would either of you happen to know where I might look in /proc to see if my iPaq is detecting its bluetooth correctly (no one is biting (or talking) over at #handhelds)? |
| 07:14.01 | Hegge` | so i only deleted like 200 b |
| 07:14.23 | bluelightning | Hegge`: oh... that could be it |
| 07:14.29 | Hegge` | yep :P |
| 07:14.36 | Hegge` | any other suggestions? |
| 07:15.06 | bluelightning | Hegge`: other than deleting something big, not really |
| 07:16.19 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: which model do you have? |
| 07:16.37 | n8_sl8er | the 3870 |
| 07:17.32 | Hegge` | what is big that i can delete ? |
| 07:17.32 | Hegge` | :D |
| 07:17.42 | Hegge` | like 2mb |
| 07:17.46 | Hegge` | and then get it back |
| 07:17.58 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: you could try hciattach /dev/ttySB0 |
| 07:18.15 | Hegge` | i culd delete the sound module and all its programs , cuz i had never heard any sound |
| 07:18.16 | Hegge` | but |
| 07:18.19 | Hegge` | i want sound |
| 07:18.23 | Hegge` | so ,,, hum |
| 07:18.24 | Hegge` | nop |
| 07:18.29 | n8_sl8er | lsmod shows bluez, rfcomm and l2cap |
| 07:18.35 | n8_sl8er | cool. i'll try that |
| 07:19.09 | bluelightning | Hegge`: what model do you have again? |
| 07:19.18 | Hegge` | 3630 |
| 07:19.32 | n8_sl8er | hegge, can you remove packages with ipkg? or does it complain about free space? |
| 07:19.43 | Hegge` | it complains |
| 07:19.44 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:19.55 | Hegge` | need to rm something |
| 07:20.32 | Hegge` | better rm -rf / |
| 07:20.32 | Hegge` | :D |
| 07:20.40 | Hegge` | better try that and see if i get any free space |
| 07:20.41 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:21.53 | bluelightning | Hegge`: you could delete all bluetooth stuff |
| 07:22.20 | Hegge` | yah |
| 07:22.20 | bluelightning | look for *hci* *blue* *sdp* |
| 07:22.30 | bluelightning | it's not going to give you much but it's a start |
| 07:22.34 | n8_sl8er | yup. agreed. the bluetooth stuff isn't doing alot lately ;-) |
| 07:22.59 | Hegge` | where is it located |
| 07:23.00 | Hegge` | ? |
| 07:23.20 | bluelightning | all over... /bin /usr/bin /usr/lib, etc |
| 07:23.28 | Hegge` | ok |
| 07:24.10 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: it's especially worth Hegge` deleting it though as his model doesn't have bluetooth :) |
| 07:25.38 | n8_sl8er | here's a listing of files for the bluez utilities package: |
| 07:26.03 | n8_sl8er | whoops! |
| 07:26.26 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: ah yes good idea |
| 07:26.48 | n8_sl8er | I'm kinda new to IRC. it looks like forward slashes denote commands. Did the text come through OK? |
| 07:26.58 | bluelightning | nope |
| 07:27.24 | n8_sl8er | is there an escape sequence for slashes? |
| 07:27.31 | n8_sl8er | let me try: // |
| 07:27.42 | bluelightning | just put a space in front |
| 07:27.52 | bluelightning | as long as your text doesn't begin with a / you're fine |
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| 07:28.52 | Hegge` | i tought he was going to exessflood |
| 07:28.53 | Hegge` | :D |
| 07:28.58 | Hegge` | hum... well |
| 07:29.05 | Hegge` | i can delete these? |
| 07:29.08 | bluelightning | yes |
| 07:29.09 | Hegge` | thanks |
| 07:29.10 | Hegge` | :D |
| 07:29.38 | bluelightning | they definitely won't be any use on a 3630 unless you plan on using an external bluetooth card/sleeve |
| 07:30.00 | Hegge` | and im not |
| 07:30.00 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:31.40 | Hegge` | rm: unable to remove '/sbin/sdpd' no space left on device |
| 07:31.41 | Hegge` | ;D |
| 07:31.59 | Hegge` | great... |
| 07:33.15 | bluelightning | right. it's obviously hosed |
| 07:33.31 | bluelightning | reflashing is the order of the day I am afraid |
| 07:34.00 | Hegge` | w8 , |
| 07:34.02 | Hegge` | ahh |
| 07:34.07 | Hegge` | Great |
| 07:34.08 | Hegge` | ... |
| 07:34.26 | Hegge` | i found a 100 mhz in the closet |
| 07:34.27 | Hegge` | :D |
| 07:34.28 | Hegge` | yess |
| 07:34.31 | Hegge` | old server |
| 07:34.40 | Hegge` | whit serial connection |
| 07:34.44 | bluelightning | pretty sad that it can get to a state like that where you can't even _delete_ anything |
| 07:35.03 | Hegge` | i can move it to that cp right? |
| 07:35.07 | Hegge` | PC* |
| 07:35.08 | Hegge` | :D |
| 07:35.16 | n8_sl8er | szweet! I used: hciattach /dev/ttySB0 any |
| 07:35.31 | Hegge` | it works now n8_sl8er? |
| 07:35.34 | bluelightning | Hegge`: if you can't rm I very much doubt you can do anything else |
| 07:35.47 | Hegge` | damn |
| 07:35.48 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:36.08 | n8_sl8er | now my little bluetooth light is flashing. I'm going to test some more things. Thanks, bluelighting! |
| 07:36.08 | Hegge` | well |
| 07:36.26 | Hegge` | better put it up anyway |
| 07:36.28 | Hegge` | to reflash |
| 07:36.29 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: there's always the bluetooth howto... it's pretty outdated, but it may help you |
| 07:36.30 | Hegge` | :P |
| 07:36.48 | Hegge` | is opie smaller? |
| 07:37.04 | bluelightning | I have been told that it is |
| 07:37.20 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BluetoothHowto |
| 07:37.21 | Hegge` | shuld i try reflashing whit opie? |
| 07:37.32 | bluelightning | Hegge`: could do yep |
| 07:37.39 | Hegge` | okay |
| 07:37.45 | Hegge` | just gonna install some os on it |
| 07:37.58 | Hegge` | bbl |
| 07:38.01 | bluelightning | you will probably want to start removing stuff before you install anything more onto it once you get it reflashed though |
| 07:39.20 | n8_sl8er | thanks for the howto. i've been reading it. it is outdated, yes. |
| 07:39.59 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: basically it should all work out of the box these days |
| 07:40.04 | Hegge` | bluelightning yep |
| 07:40.07 | Hegge` | :D |
| 07:40.09 | n8_sl8er | I'm using opie right now. I'm pleased with it. |
| 07:40.39 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: in the next version of Opie there will hopefully be enhanced bluetooth tools |
| 07:41.42 | n8_sl8er | Yes, it _should_ work out of the box but familiar 0.8 broke d-bus which bluetooth depends on, so they suggested I use the latest unstable packages of bluez |
| 07:42.28 | bluelightning | hmm... we will try to make sure that stuff like that doesn't happen in 0.8.1 |
| 07:42.45 | n8_sl8er | hcid wouldn't even start without the new packages. now I'm getting a connection timed out error when I issue: hciconfig hci0 up |
| 07:43.13 | bluelightning | so the blue LED is still flashing? |
| 07:44.08 | n8_sl8er | yes, and according to hciconfig I've recieved and sent packets, but I don't have a BD address. |
| 07:44.25 | bluelightning | very strange... |
| 07:45.15 | bluelightning | works here |
| 07:45.41 | bluelightning | though to start it I used hciattach /dev/ttySB0 bcsp 230400 |
| 07:45.45 | bluelightning | (adjusted for your hardware) |
| 07:46.36 | bluelightning | hci0 went up immediately afterwards when I ran hciconfig hci0 up |
| 07:46.47 | n8_sl8er | ah. ah-ha. I'll try that. is the last argument there (the number) for bps? |
| 07:47.00 | bluelightning | yep |
| 07:47.08 | bluelightning | I think 230400 is the right value for 3870 |
| 07:47.16 | bluelightning | it's 921600 on mine |
| 07:48.03 | bluelightning | LEDs are flashing all over my ipaq... bluetooth LED, charge LED on front, charge LED on sleeve on the back |
| 07:48.03 | bluelightning | :) |
| 07:50.51 | n8_sl8er | yes! thankyou! it works! |
| 07:51.04 | n8_sl8er | I've got a BD address! |
| 07:51.25 | n8_sl8er | how did you find out the bps numbers and manufacturer? |
| 07:52.01 | Hegge` | gah loading opie now |
| 07:52.35 | Hegge` | i just plugged in restarted and connected and wrote "load root" |
| 07:52.45 | Hegge` | and used the file opie.lalalala |
| 07:52.48 | bluelightning | Hegge`: that's right |
| 07:52.50 | Hegge` | ok |
| 07:52.51 | Hegge` | :D |
| 07:52.59 | Hegge` | 25 minits left |
| 07:53.02 | bluelightning | where lalala = jffs2 I hope :) |
| 07:53.07 | Hegge` | yep |
| 07:53.11 | Hegge` | ofcourse |
| 07:53.22 | bluelightning | good... uploading the wrong file could waste a lot of time |
| 07:53.27 | bluelightning | :) |
| 07:53.30 | Hegge` | yup |
| 07:53.40 | Hegge` | what time is it at ur place+ |
| 07:54.00 | Hegge` | 9 am here :P |
| 07:54.02 | bluelightning | n8_sl8er: it's on the bluetooth howto page |
| 07:54.12 | bluelightning | it's nearly 9PM |
| 07:54.18 | Hegge` | hehe |
| 07:54.18 | Hegge` | :D |
| 07:54.19 | bluelightning | brb |
| 07:54.23 | Hegge` | ok |
| 07:56.19 | n8_sl8er | opie has a little problem of not starting on the second boot. if you have a serial connection, you can log in and start it by running /etc/init.d/opie start |
| 07:58.40 | Hegge` | ok |
| 07:58.41 | Hegge` | :P |
| 08:06.33 | n8_sl8er | according to the release notes this is fixable. it's my next project after getting bluetooth to work |
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| 08:24.07 | bluelightning | back |
| 08:45.14 | n8_sl8er | eghh! well i'd better go. It's 12:43 AM here. I'm trying to share my internet connection from a OS X PowerBook through Bluetooth to my iPaq. It's requiring a bit of command line hacking. Thanks for all your help. |
| 08:48.46 | Hegge` | bluelightning |
| 08:49.07 | Hegge` | got opie up and runnin' |
| 08:49.12 | Hegge` | it worked |
| 08:49.18 | Hegge` | have 1 meg free space |
| 08:49.20 | bluelightning | Hegge`: great |
| 08:49.23 | Hegge` | :D |
| 08:49.32 | bluelightning | hmm, could do with a little more :) |
| 08:49.43 | bluelightning | you could remove bluez-utils-nodbus package and other bits |
| 08:49.45 | Hegge` | but i still get these error messages when im running ipkg update /upgrade |
| 08:50.02 | Hegge` | gonna watch some tv 4 now |
| 08:50.10 | Hegge` | then im gonna delete a lot of crap |
| 08:50.11 | Hegge` | :D |
| 08:50.19 | Hegge` | any good program that is a mus? |
| 08:50.22 | Hegge` | must* |
| 08:50.24 | Hegge` | to have |
| 08:50.36 | Hegge` | as irc client irssi? |
| 08:50.42 | bluelightning | well, it depends on what you want to do... |
| 08:50.46 | bluelightning | there's OpieIRC for irc |
| 08:50.51 | Hegge` | ok |
| 08:50.56 | Hegge` | dunno |
| 08:51.00 | Hegge` | any good games? |
| 08:51.11 | bluelightning | ah, let me see... |
| 08:51.12 | Hegge` | just gonna play nd' stuff whit it |
| 08:51.13 | Hegge` | :P |
| 08:51.30 | bluelightning | I like Zauralign myself, but I'm addicted to KLines in KDE so that's not surprising |
| 08:51.40 | Hegge` | heheh ok |
| 08:51.51 | Hegge` | u use kde on ur workstation? |
| 08:52.08 | Hegge` | or do u run win? |
| 08:52.27 | bluelightning | I run kde fulltime at home, unless I want to play a windows game |
| 08:52.45 | Hegge` | ok |
| 08:52.49 | Hegge` | i run fvwm2 |
| 08:52.56 | Hegge` | whit a nice conf |
| 08:53.00 | bluelightning | oldschool :) |
| 08:53.00 | Hegge` | and gentoo |
| 08:53.08 | Hegge` | what dist u use? |
| 08:53.14 | bluelightning | gentoo here also |
| 08:53.53 | Hegge` | http://xevz.mine.nu/xevz/screenshots/linux/2005-01-14-005054_1280x1024_scrot.png |
| 08:53.59 | Hegge` | oldschool? |
| 08:54.05 | Hegge` | ;D |
| 08:54.37 | Hegge` | and that was some months ago |
| 08:54.40 | Hegge` | have better now |
| 08:54.43 | Hegge` | :-D |
| 08:54.44 | bluelightning | looks nice |
| 08:54.48 | Hegge` | ty |
| 08:54.49 | Hegge` | :D |
| 08:54.59 | bluelightning | a little spartan, but then I'm a KDE user so I'm used to lots of bells and whistles :) |
| 08:55.17 | Hegge` | i used kde before fvwm |
| 08:55.24 | Hegge` | its a good desktopmanager |
| 08:55.39 | Hegge` | but , i want to be able to conf more |
| 08:56.07 | bluelightning | I guess I've never been much of a customiser myself... I generally stick with the default themes |
| 08:56.16 | Hegge` | ok |
| 08:56.17 | bluelightning | I do have a different background though |
| 08:56.24 | Hegge` | yah |
| 08:56.53 | Hegge` | wel im gonna watch tv for now |
| 08:56.57 | bluelightning | ok |
| 08:56.58 | Hegge` | cya l8tr |
| 08:57.01 | bluelightning | cya |
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| 09:13.38 | Nicolas | hello |
| 09:14.14 | Nicolas | does anyone know how I could install new fonts on my familiar 0.7.2 |
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| 10:30.11 | Hegge` | goh |
| 10:30.12 | Hegge` | :P |
| 10:32.26 | Hegge` | blue |
| 10:32.27 | Hegge` | bluelightning |
| 10:59.17 | Hegge` | bluelightning |
| 10:59.18 | Hegge` | there? |
| 11:27.34 | bluelightning | Hegge`: yep, not for long though |
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| 11:46.20 | n3mix | Hi all |
| 11:46.46 | n3mix | I've a problem |
| 11:47.13 | n3mix | with boot, on compaq h3630 |
| 11:47.29 | n3mix | kernel panic |
| 11:47.40 | n3mix | on module usb-eth0 |
| 11:48.11 | n3mix | for disabling the module at boot time? |
| 11:49.15 | n3mix | ... |
| 11:49.19 | Hegge` | dunno |
| 11:49.20 | Hegge` | :p |
| 11:49.40 | n3mix | Hegge`: ok |
| 11:50.03 | Hegge` | just installed opie on mine |
| 11:50.08 | Hegge` | gpe was too big |
| 11:50.13 | Hegge` | didnt fit |
| 11:50.14 | Hegge` | :P |
| 11:50.49 | n3mix | opie 1.03 or 1.13? |
| 11:50.57 | n3mix | handhelds? |
| 11:53.21 | n3mix | Hegge`: handheld? |
| 11:54.05 | Hegge` | same |
| 11:54.06 | Hegge` | as u |
| 11:54.08 | Hegge` | 3630 |
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| 18:23.35 | suix | hi |
| 18:43.51 | Hegge` | hi suix |
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