| 00:28.01 | Kryzaach | sorry about the delay, had to raise the limits on the mail server... |
| 00:29.15 | Kryzaach | hmmm, google won't accept a message that size, got another address, or an ftp dump? |
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| 08:04.54 | laboom | Hello! I am totally new to familiar 0.8. I installed it from CF-Card and it basically worked, but suddenly the iPAQ 3870 started to loose the wlan connection and finally crashed. I pressed the reset button, but it stucks now at "please wait: booting..." |
| 08:06.02 | laboom | ... with familiar 0.7.1/0.7.2 this worked always fine, so it cannot be the hardware. |
| 08:06.14 | laboom | Any recommendations? |
| 08:14.22 | Lanfear | If I only could get the wlan0 up... |
| 08:16.53 | laboom | What do you mean? This worked easily on my iPAQ. |
| 08:18.09 | Lanfear | Well apparently I'm missing the WPA firmware |
| 08:18.57 | Lanfear | There is a wlan0 interface but it has only a ipv6 address, when I run the udhpc it does not get any leases |
| 08:19.20 | laboom | What I actually wonder is the "enhencement" of 0.8.0. It shall be better,... but all I see is that the "stable" 0.8.0 crashed within 4 minutes, while the older 0.7.2 worked for 2 years. Where could I get a jffs2 of the old version to move back in the worst case? (a tar for CF-flashing) |
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| 08:22.37 | laboom | Lanfear: You don't use a Prism 2.5 chipset in your wlan card? :-/ |
| 08:26.43 | Lanfear | Uhh... how do I check that? It's a HP Ipaq 5550 |
| 08:27.10 | Lanfear | And the 0.8.0 version |
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| 08:32.44 | laboom | don't know. I have an 3870 here (Strongarm200) |
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| 08:47.30 | laboom | Does anybody know why my WLAN connection dies nearly immediately when I run a ssh onto my iPAQ and transfer data? This definitely worked with familiar 0.7.2! |
| 08:53.37 | bluelightning | laboom: which card? |
| 08:59.06 | laboom | It's a BELKIN card (Prism 2.5 chipset inside) worked excellent with familiar 0.7.1 |
| 09:00.42 | bluelightning | a lot has changed since then |
| 09:00.53 | bluelightning | anything in the kernel logs? (dmesg) |
| 09:01.18 | laboom | Yes. But it appears to me that it hasn't really changed to become better... |
| 09:01.25 | Lanfear | :-/ |
| 09:01.48 | bluelightning | no, it really has improved in so many ways |
| 09:02.02 | bluelightning | there were lots of things broken with 0.7.x that just work now |
| 09:02.12 | bluelightning | hell, I couldn't even get wifi at all on 0.7.2 |
| 09:02.26 | Lanfear | Hjmm.. If I get multiple times the following message in dmesg: wlan0: no IPv6 routers present |
| 09:02.32 | bluelightning | plus now it's super easy to build new packages or even your own up-to-date image using OE |
| 09:02.44 | Lanfear | Then can I assume that the problem is not a missing firmware? |
| 09:02.54 | bluelightning | Lanfear: I think that's normal... you can uninstall ipv6 stuff to get rid of that if you want |
| 09:03.20 | bluelightning | Lanfear: yes it's probably a kernel regression of some kind, I'm guessing |
| 09:03.22 | laboom | Well, the problem seems to occur when I have higher traffic. I.e. when I get a full screen refresh in an editor when I type in VI through a telnet session to get all this wron configs out after installing the "stable" version, which is otherwise not able to update itself... |
| 09:03.31 | Lanfear | Ok, the only thing is that rmmod ipv6 does not complete, and checking with lsmod gives the module a -1 count |
| 09:05.04 | laboom | Can someone explain me the difference between wlan0 and wifi0? |
| 09:05.45 | laboom | Interesting that both are on, but only wlan0 get's an IP. Should I disable the wifi0? |
| 09:05.53 | bluelightning | laboom: 0.8.1 is coming soon, we are working on it as we speak :) |
| 09:05.55 | laboom | Maybe this causes conflicts... |
| 09:06.09 | bluelightning | laboom: I get both also, I just ignore wifi0 and use wlan0 myself |
| 09:06.11 | bluelightning | seems to work |
| 09:07.30 | laboom | Oh! Fine! -- Could you hereby change the config files so that they are really working by default? (ipkg, CF-Card mounting, SD-Card-mounting, ...) |
| 09:07.43 | bluelightning | laboom: pretty much already done |
| 09:07.52 | bluelightning | laboom: we didn't break things on purpose you know :) |
| 09:08.16 | bluelightning | if you like, testing images of 0.8.1 are already available |
| 09:08.24 | Lanfear | Don't know whether it is a bug, but when I (using the GPE) configured the network wlan0 it set the channel to 'o' instead of the given number in /etc/networks/interfaces |
| 09:09.09 | bluelightning | Lanfear: I'd suggest removing the ipv6 module packages and then rebooting if you don't plan on using it |
| 09:09.34 | laboom | Ok. -- can you supply me a complete tar? I want to install from CF-Card (familiar + OPIE). |
| 09:10.06 | bluelightning | we don't have complete tars built, just the images... but making your own files is trivial |
| 09:10.27 | bluelightning | you can just reuse the reflash.ctl from 0.8.0, or write your own, it's only one line |
| 09:10.41 | bluelightning | md5sums is just "md5sum filename.jffs2 > md5sums" |
| 09:11.16 | bluelightning | laboom: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.1/ |
| 09:11.17 | Lanfear | I edited the interfaces-file and set it to a numerical channelm then commented the ipv6 from /etc/modules and rebooted, alas :-( |
| 09:11.41 | bluelightning | Lanfear: that should also work |
| 09:12.08 | laboom | What has been changed in 0.8.1? |
| 09:13.00 | laboom | .. besides: Since I have no ssh to the iPAQ in use, it is constantly online! |
| 09:13.12 | bluelightning | laboom: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FamiliarChangeLog |
| 09:13.58 | bluelightning | actually that's not complete, almost all of the bugs mentioned in the 0.8.0 release notes have been fixed |
| 09:14.18 | bluelightning | laboom: I'm not sure I understand what you mean about ssh |
| 09:17.04 | laboom | To enter all this 0.8.0 related fixes, I decided to do a ssh connection over wlan from my linux workstation (so I have a keyboard instead on a touchpad) and use vi to edit the files. I can connect, I can execute vi, but when I scroll (="higher" traffic), the connection hangs and I also cannot ping the iPAQ any more, until I unplug/replog the WLAN card. |
| 09:17.38 | bluelightning | laboom: I see |
| 09:19.25 | laboom | What can be the reason? Updating a simple text-screen cannot really be too much for the iPAQ, when this worked fine before my change from 0.7.1? |
| 09:20.03 | bluelightning | laboom: it's probably a kernel regression as I have said... it's a bug |
| 09:20.59 | laboom | Does someone have TELNET server/client soft for iPAQ/Strongarm? SSH may be safe, but often TELNET is the only option. But there is no one... |
| 09:21.00 | Lanfear | Perhaps I too should try out the 0.8.1? |
| 09:21.39 | laboom | Hi, Lanfear! So we are two beta testers... Me as the "novice"... |
| 09:21.46 | bluelightning | Lanfear: yeah it should be OK, if you don't mind reflashing |
| 09:21.58 | Lanfear | No, I get paid for this stuff :-) |
| 09:22.06 | Lanfear | By the hour that is |
| 09:22.34 | bluelightning | you're doing this for work? |
| 09:22.36 | laboom | Currently I am not afraid because I have nothing to loose. I already LOST. |
| 09:23.08 | laboom | ... the better working older version. |
| 09:23.09 | Lanfear | Well, not professionally, as you can tell, but yeah, we need this gadget up and working for a demo of ours |
| 09:23.22 | bluelightning | Lanfear: cool... wish I got to do that in my job :) |
| 09:23.53 | bluelightning | laboom: we do the best we can |
| 09:24.18 | laboom | Well, I use the iPAQ later in my living room (to look inside the TV-program,... program my SuSE based digital Videorecorder, ...) |
| 09:24.24 | Lanfear | Ok, I'll download the stuff and try it out |
| 09:25.08 | laboom | What must I do? Step by step please, I have absolutely no experience with iPAQ+Linux+OPIE... |
| 09:26.42 | bluelightning | laboom: do you mean for installing 0.8.1? |
| 09:27.53 | laboom | Well, this might be wrong, but I see familiar+OPIE as one unit. When they depend on each other, it will be possibly a new problem afterwards? |
| 09:28.36 | bluelightning | laboom: they are one unit in the sense that opie is part of the familiar opie releases... but I don't see what you are getting at |
| 09:30.00 | laboom | So I'll give it a try. Is there an image available (.jffs2) or is this 100% hand work? |
| 09:31.41 | laboom | bluelightning: I am happy when you say that familiar+opie is one release. So they will match. |
| 09:31.58 | bluelightning | yes |
| 09:32.17 | laboom | And where download? |
| 09:32.18 | bluelightning | Opie is a separate project, but all of the packaging is now handled by the familiar/OE people |
| 09:32.38 | bluelightning | 0.8.1 pre-release testing images are here: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.1/ |
| 09:33.05 | bluelightning | I can't promise it will fix your wifi issue, but it can't hurt to test |
| 09:33.57 | laboom | Uhhhhhhhhhhh - which file of this bunch? |
| 09:38.11 | bluelightning | you have a 3870, so you would be using the 3600 images, and you want opie, so... |
| 09:38.32 | bluelightning | http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.1/20050203/opie-image-h3600-20050202194525.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 09:40.06 | laboom | Ok. My CF-Card has enough space to add this one. May I simply add a new line to reflash.ctl ? |
| 09:40.43 | bluelightning | you can... personally I'd recommend just having one on there |
| 09:41.05 | bluelightning | I have found that it is hard to select the other image in the bootldr, but that may just be the joypad being too sensitive on my unit |
| 09:41.33 | laboom | Well, I must prepare to change back in the worst case on weekend. How do I generate the checksum? |
| 09:42.00 | bluelightning | you'll need the "md5sum" program |
| 09:42.09 | bluelightning | there is a windows version available |
| 09:42.35 | laboom | I have no Windows. Only Linux. :-) |
| 09:42.58 | bluelightning | laboom: oh great... then it's even easier |
| 09:43.10 | bluelightning | md5sum filename.jffs2 > md5sums |
| 09:43.19 | bluelightning | (cd to CF card dir first) |
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| 09:44.29 | laboom | Oh -- didn't you forget a second ">"? (Well, I saw it.) |
| 09:45.01 | bluelightning | ah yes of course... I use > in my case because I only have one on the card |
| 09:45.03 | bluelightning | sorry :( |
| 09:45.11 | laboom | :-) |
| 09:46.41 | laboom | I just unmounted the CF-card and plug it into my iPAQ now... |
| 09:48.07 | laboom | I select opie0.8.1 (my additional line) ... |
| 09:48.55 | laboom | Now it erases... |
| 09:49.39 | Lanfear | BTW I upload the stuff via serial->cradle->ymodem so this may take a while |
| 09:50.09 | bluelightning | Lanfear: yeah, it is quite slow... I use the CF card method myself |
| 09:50.50 | Lanfear | Mm... could use the SD-card, but I'm too lazy, besides I can bang away at other stuff in the meantime |
| 09:51.16 | bluelightning | Lanfear: unfortunately the bootldr doesn't support SD |
| 09:51.33 | Lanfear | Gotta get a CF-card booting netapp device to do the Knightrider Kitt-effect |
| 09:51.37 | laboom | My one is now programming... BTW: WHY is SD not supported? |
| 09:51.52 | laboom | Would be the one which is built in! |
| 09:52.05 | Lanfear | bluelightning: Ach, well then I have a legitime reason not to do it any faster |
| 09:52.40 | laboom | Har-har... :D |
| 09:53.41 | bluelightning | laboom: it's not supported because until very recently the SD hardware documentation was not available |
| 09:54.06 | laboom | Oh. And will this change soon? |
| 09:54.14 | bluelightning | laboom: it is only through the efforts of a few determined people that we now have SD support on most models in Linux itself |
| 09:54.49 | bluelightning | laboom: possibly... there is something new being worked on to replace bootldr, but I don't know how far away it is or what its SD capabilities (if any) will be |
| 09:55.55 | laboom | Would be a good idea to implement this. Otherwise every iPAQ user is FORCED to buy a CF-Card jacket, ant this is not cheap... |
| 09:56.47 | laboom | BTW: Why is the bootloader oriented 180° turned in relation to the normal boot screen of familiar? |
| 09:56.51 | bluelightning | laboom: nobody is forced to do anything. the serial method is still available |
| 09:57.14 | laboom | But this is no real alternate, isn't it? ;-) |
| 09:57.48 | laboom | When I take my 5,00 Euro SDCARDS (16MB each), I have it much easier... :P |
| 09:58.01 | bluelightning | laboom: I should remind you (gently) that most of us do this in our spare time, and we do our best :) |
| 09:58.53 | Lanfear | The alternative is of course to hire someone to do it for you |
| 09:59.00 | Lanfear | The coding that is |
| 09:59.41 | Lanfear | Or if the need is real in the userland then team up, gather some money and pay someone to do it fulltime |
| 10:00.00 | laboom | Yes, I know. And I must say that my knowledge would never be enough to do that what you do, by myself. So I have much respect, believe me. But I like to point out such things so that they get possibly fixed in newer versions... |
| 10:01.31 | laboom | Ok, iPAQ is running 0.8.1. Let's see what has changed after I have setup WLAN... |
| 10:01.37 | bluelightning | laboom: ok. well the best thing you can do for us is to file clear and complete bug reports if you have a problem that can't be solved immediately |
| 10:04.53 | laboom | Well, something is wrong with WLAN. The card is detected at plugin (I get the message New Card: Belkin ...", but I cannot configure and/or start the wlan0. |
| 10:06.31 | Lanfear | Uhh.. it just dawned on me, did I need to update the bootldr too for the 0.8.1? |
| 10:07.35 | laboom | Lanfear: I use the same as on 0.8.0 (it is 2.21.12 |
| 10:07.36 | Lanfear | Or is it as simple as to only transfer the gpe-image-h3900-20050202231258.rootfs.jffs2? |
| 10:08.57 | bluelightning | it's as simple as going "load root" and uploading |
| 10:09.18 | Lanfear | Right-o, thanks |
| 10:09.19 | bluelightning | same bootldr will be just fine... besides 2.21.12 is the latest stable one |
| 10:09.47 | Lanfear | The upload was 'already' halfway through |
| 10:10.11 | bluelightning | Lanfear: did you stop it? |
| 10:10.24 | bluelightning | (I hope not) |
| 10:10.26 | Lanfear | No |
| 10:10.47 | laboom | Well, another bug: When I try to -> "O" -> "Logout", I get asked if I really want that. "Yes" leads into a frozen screen, but the iPAQ still has light on, etc... |
| 10:11.28 | bluelightning | laboom: yeah, I just reported that the other day... the logout function is useless unless you have opie-login installed (which is not by default) and opie-login is also currently broken |
| 10:11.55 | laboom | =8-O |
| 10:12.10 | laboom | Well, what's with the WLAN? It is absolutely dead. |
| 10:12.22 | bluelightning | it's unfortunate I agree |
| 10:12.45 | bluelightning | not sure... in theory it should be the same as in 0.8.0 |
| 10:12.56 | bluelightning | (wifi) |
| 10:13.32 | laboom | Strange -- after a new start, I suddenly see a running wlan0 (not configured) and wifi0 ... - Very strange... |
| 10:14.17 | bluelightning | laboom: ok, so the previous time did you have the card in during boot? |
| 10:15.43 | bluelightning | brb I'm going to reboot as currently I don't have a mouse... :/ |
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| 10:24.10 | laboom | Ok, I am online with my iPAQ now. How can I test if updating works? |
| 10:24.53 | laboom | (or how can I add some soft now?) |
| 10:25.18 | bluelightning | well in opie you should be able to use the Opie Package Manager to do an update |
| 10:26.27 | laboom | I never understood how this works. I have started it now. What's the next step? |
| 10:27.35 | laboom | I would like to do a "dry test" to see if it actually finds all stuff in the Internet. |
| 10:27.50 | bluelightning | Actions->Update Lists |
| 10:27.59 | bluelightning | or the button with the same icon on the toolbar |
| 10:28.39 | bluelightning | I just realised though, there are no feeds for the 0.8.1 pre-release, other than the unstable feed (which you can set up, but it's huge) |
| 10:29.17 | laboom | Heijeee -- ipkg_download: ERROR Command failed .......... (even the whole message doesn't fit into the line.) |
| 10:30.08 | bluelightning | that doesn't tell me much... is there anything else? |
| 10:31.20 | laboom | "loading conf file /etc/ipkg.conf" "loading conf file /etc/ipkg/arch.conf" This stands before the error messages. |
| 10:32.04 | bluelightning | ok well let's go back to basics just to make sure... open up opie terminal |
| 10:32.09 | laboom | And I also see that the first location has (again) http:/// instead of http:// -- shall I correct this? |
| 10:33.25 | laboom | yep |
| 10:33.48 | laboom | what now? |
| 10:34.28 | bluelightning | yeah, that's in the 0.8.1 release notes... koen missed it the first time |
| 10:34.35 | bluelightning | do "ipkg update" |
| 10:35.12 | laboom | shall I (first) edit the /etc/ipkg.conf, or shall I leave this as is? |
| 10:38.48 | bluelightning | well if you want to install stuff I'd say you'd need to use the unstable feed, which is: |
| 10:39.11 | bluelightning | http://familiar.handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/ |
| 10:39.31 | bluelightning | so make it so there is only one line as follows: |
| 10:39.39 | bluelightning | src/gz base http://familiar.handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/ |
| 10:39.47 | bluelightning | (one feed line I mean) |
| 10:41.40 | laboom | Ok. So I remark the original line with http:///familiar........... as well as the line with the snapshot? |
| 10:42.18 | laboom | Or shall I let the snapshot line active, too? |
| 10:43.10 | bluelightning | comment both of those out |
| 10:44.23 | laboom | Currently there is one (not working) line "src/gz base http:///familiar............./v0.8/base" here, and another one pointing to a snapshot feed. |
| 10:45.24 | laboom | Ok. done. now your line is the only one. This ssh is HORRIBLE. It crashes immediately when I even type very fast! |
| 10:45.32 | laboom | What's next? |
| 10:46.27 | bluelightning | laboom: well you will insist on using wifi which we have established is currently buggy... |
| 10:46.38 | bluelightning | anyway, now run ipkg update |
| 10:46.43 | laboom | I did an "ipkg update" and it worked without error message. (-> Updated list available in ...) |
| 10:47.46 | bluelightning | right well that's good news :) |
| 10:47.57 | laboom | Yes. :-) |
| 10:48.13 | bluelightning | now you can probably use the opie package manager to make life easier... or you can stick to ipkg if you prefer |
| 10:48.36 | laboom | But doesn't this mean that there will happen no updating of the system+opie now? I remarked those lines! |
| 10:49.09 | bluelightning | the unstable feed is one huge dir containing opie+gpe+base stuff |
| 10:50.12 | bluelightning | so it will install opie stuff |
| 10:50.16 | laboom | So everything is already there. Great. Does this 0.8.1 version already have a mediaplayer inside? |
| 10:50.35 | bluelightning | no, you need to install opie-mediaplayer |
| 10:51.18 | laboom | Can this one play MPG + DivX4 files, too? Do you mean opie-mediaplayer or opie-mediaplayer2 ? |
| 10:51.41 | bluelightning | opie-mediaplayer(1) has no video capabilities, only sound |
| 10:52.02 | bluelightning | opie-mediaplayer2 will play mpegs and divx, but there are issues... it's a bit unstable |
| 10:52.09 | bluelightning | I was testing it last night |
| 10:52.15 | laboom | So I'll need the version 2. Does this meanwhile work? |
| 10:52.16 | bluelightning | it will even play quicktime :) |
| 10:52.50 | laboom | a bit unstable is good. :) I never got it working at all! |
| 10:53.01 | bluelightning | :) |
| 10:53.23 | bluelightning | well, use the package manager to install it and have a go |
| 10:53.39 | bluelightning | installing stuff with the unstable feed will be slow as the package list is pretty big |
| 10:55.20 | laboom | I'll try. Another Q: I experienced that battery monitoring is a disaster. Sometimes the iPAQ thought that the battery is full and it rasheed after some time (because it was empty), sometimes it always things it is not full -- is this fixed in 0.8.1? |
| 10:57.01 | bluelightning | not sure... that sort of thing is model dependent |
| 10:57.27 | bluelightning | I have an h3970 and just got my "new" (bought 2nd hand) h3850 back from repair today |
| 10:57.32 | laboom | Another Q: I plugged in now the CF-Card. I get told that it is found, but where is it mounted? |
| 10:58.06 | bluelightning | the CF mount bug hasn't been fixed in the images that are up there... you need to apply the fix in the release notes |
| 10:58.14 | Lanfear | Uh-oh |
| 10:58.17 | bluelightning | (new fix as of a few days ago) |
| 10:58.49 | laboom | what's to be done (so that I don't do something wrong)... |
| 10:59.56 | laboom | Besides: Taskbar is extremely full. How can I abort this screen-snapshot tool (i.e.)? |
| 11:00.18 | Lanfear | The new root was uploaded, but it hang doing the 'writing flash...' section. Hitting the enter returned me to the 'boot> ' prompt |
| 11:00.41 | bluelightning | Lanfear: are you sure you waited long enough? |
| 11:01.25 | bluelightning | laboom: two ways - go to launcher settings and uncheck the ones you don't want, or if you will never need them then just remove the package for each one |
| 11:01.44 | Lanfear | Yy-es, would any keystroke in the minicom interrupt the flashing? |
| 11:02.57 | Lanfear | The last line was not complete. It reads 'addr: 001C0' |
| 11:03.25 | bluelightning | laboom: to fix cf, install kernel-module-ide-probe-mod package |
| 11:03.48 | bluelightning | Lanfear: hmm... not sure what would cause that to happen |
| 11:04.14 | bluelightning | Lanfear: at worst you will have to reupload :/ |
| 11:04.20 | Lanfear | I'll reupload it, no worries |
| 11:46.28 | bluelightning | time for bed, cya all |
| 11:50.25 | Lanfear | .nz explains |
| 11:51.53 | Lanfear | And for the record, the reupload helped |
| 12:24.42 | Lanfear | But the wlan-problem persists :-( |
| 12:40.09 | Lanfear | And problem found |
| 12:40.59 | Lanfear | The AP does not accept connections, using an isolated developer AP works, but does not really solve anything |
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| 13:12.32 | laboom | Hi! I accidently klicked on the "documents tab" of OPIE 0.8.1. Now the iPAQ stucks completely. I can access it through "ssh" over wlan, but the desktop does not allow to switch to another tab or to use the start-bar. Please, help. |
| 13:14.07 | laboom | Seems to be a bug, but how can I activate the Documents-Tab by a SSH login? |
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| 13:30.24 | sgurz | hi everybody could someone help me please? |
| 13:30.45 | sgurz | I flashed familiar on my H5550 |
| 13:31.10 | sgurz | but after giving the "boot" command |
| 13:31.30 | sgurz | from terminal I can't see any prompt |
| 13:31.46 | sgurz | only the penguin on the left on black screen |
| 13:32.06 | sgurz | just waiting? |
| 13:32.32 | sgurz | ( already 30 minutes) |
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| 14:08.45 | Lanfear | Do you have a cradle? |
| 14:09.21 | Lanfear | And did you install a graphical environ or just the 'developer' root-image? |
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| 16:24.39 | laboom | Hello! Since some hours I have familiar+opie 0.8.1 installed on my iPAQ 3870. Works meanwhile - thanks to the help here - acceptable. What I wonder are some strange things I cannot explain. Somebody here who can help me finding the reason(s)? |
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| 18:22.05 | laboom | Urgent - if someone could help, *please*. I installed not opie 0.8.0 (the stable feed). It worked. Then I tried a reboot. From this moment, my iPAQ does not start opie-gui. I have to use my workstation for logging in the ipaq and execute /etc/init.d/opie start, then OPIE starts. What is wrong here? |
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| 20:02.12 | varro | Anyone knows how can i change the screen bit-depth? the default is 256 i think |
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| 20:32.11 | knoppix | Has anyone tried running Familiar on a Dell Axim? |
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