| 00:17.11 | *** join/#familiar jg (~jg@c-24-60-31-143.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 00:49.45 | *** join/#familiar Blacknator_ (~root@p54AA7707.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:30.57 | *** join/#familiar Robot_ (~robot_@pool-71-113-17-198.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar Blacknator_ (~root@p54AA7707.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar award (admin@p54BE469E.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar BBrox_ZZzz (~ulmer@bbrox.org) |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar _chronic (~adamb@osculation.free2air.net) |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar hue (~hue@219.136.132.144) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar r0ute (~r0ute@ina044000004.lancs.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar R6s_Poor (Ruetobas@218-166-119-245.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar Lanfear ([cT6hCBf90@off16.pixelpress.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar trench (trench@shub-niggurath.rlyeh.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 04:23.49 | *** join/#familiar prh (~paul@212.13.203.69) |
| 04:23.50 | *** join/#familiar cmarqu (colin@buug.mind.de) |
| 04:23.50 | *** join/#familiar dustpuppy (~chris@62.141.36.81) |
| 04:23.50 | *** join/#familiar mace (~mace@mace.developer.debian) |
| 04:23.50 | *** join/#familiar overseer_away (~banzai@64.235.246.5) |
| 04:23.50 | *** join/#familiar drw|bbl (~drw@c-24-0-157-195.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 04:23.50 | *** join/#familiar fdv (1988@tyrfing.ifi.uio.no) |
| 04:23.50 | *** join/#familiar Obi-Jan (paladin@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi) |
| 04:23.50 | *** join/#familiar vplehto (~vplehto@pppoe2-170.kotinet.com) |
| 04:23.50 | *** join/#familiar paul ([U2FsdGVkX@hibernia.jakma.org) |
| 06:27.11 | *** part/#familiar Obi-Jan (paladin@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi) |
| 08:04.57 | *** join/#familiar Eseob (HydraIRC@topinambur.berkom.de) |
| 08:12.12 | *** join/#familiar koobla (vogl@wall4.soft.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 08:15.24 | Eseob | anyone in here that managed to run blackdown with AWT under familiar? |
| 08:22.09 | *** join/#familiar prh_ (~paul@212.13.203.69) |
| 08:22.35 | *** join/#familiar oversee-r (~banzai@64.235.246.5) |
| 08:28.40 | *** join/#familiar cmarqu (colin@buug.mind.de) |
| 08:28.41 | *** join/#familiar r0ute (~r0ute@ina044000004.lancs.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 08:28.51 | *** join/#familiar dustpuppy (~chris@62.141.36.81) |
| 08:30.14 | *** join/#familiar koobla (vogl@wall4.soft.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 08:31.50 | *** join/#familiar hue (~hue@219.136.132.144) |
| 08:46.13 | HostingGeek | Eseob: Yes on DreamPDA |
| 10:19.13 | *** join/#familiar R6s_Poor (Ruetobas@218-166-119-245.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 10:51.18 | Eseob | does someone know what familiar version is compatible with blackdown JDK (1.3.1) -- i just read in a posting that familiar only supports blackdown up to 0.7.1?? |
| 10:52.06 | Eseob | but i cant find any official statement and i got some bad library conflicts :(( |
| 11:08.32 | *** join/#familiar _chronic (~adamb@osculation.free2air.net) |
| 11:19.05 | *** join/#familiar southbob (~cpaterso@203-206-249-174.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 11:19.44 | *** join/#familiar southbob (~cpaterso@203-206-249-174.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 11:19.47 | southbob | hi |
| 11:20.43 | southbob | i'm trying to get the bootloader to boot on my h5550 but when ever i hold down the centre joypad and the reset button my ipaq vibrates and locks up |
| 11:20.56 | southbob | i can't seem to get the boot loader to work properly |
| 11:20.59 | southbob | any way i can fix this? |
| 11:22.02 | *** join/#familiar bluelightning (~bluelight@203-173-244-231.akl.ihugultra.co.nz) |
| 11:22.20 | southbob | hi |
| 11:24.06 | Eseob | @southbob: you can also try to push the "calender" button to get into boot mode |
| 11:24.23 | southbob | thanks eseob :) |
| 11:26.01 | southbob | so its the same proocess. hold down the calender button and the reset buton untill bootloader splash screen appears? |
| 11:29.55 | Eseob | yes and then pudh the calender button to get into boot mode so that you can connect via serial port |
| 11:30.10 | Eseob | -d+h |
| 11:30.13 | southbob | after it vibrates? |
| 11:30.28 | Eseob | hehe maybe - my device does not vibrate ;) |
| 11:30.59 | southbob | hehe. grrr...still no action :( |
| 11:31.27 | Eseob | --but i dont see it on my device when it is in boot mode - only when i connect to it with a terminal program |
| 11:32.38 | southbob | ahh ok, i understand now. i think, i'll try again. the documentation on the site leaves a little to be desired. hopefully can get this going |
| 11:32.43 | southbob | what device are you using? |
| 11:44.04 | Eseob | i have an ipaq 3870 |
| 11:44.48 | southbob | so after you push the joy pad and the reset button nothing appears to happen on yours? so you then push the calander button and you can telnet itnto the device? |
| 11:48.17 | southbob | i'm in |
| 11:48.18 | southbob | thank you |
| 11:55.11 | Eseob | hehe np ;) - but believe me problems are just beginning^^ |
| 11:57.15 | southbob | lol, what other problems can i expect? |
| 11:58.05 | Eseob | if u just want to use linux thats it - install and you are finished - but if you want to develop things are getting funny |
| 12:00.59 | southbob | i'm not planing on doing any dev for it at the moment. just having a look at how useable it is |
| 12:02.29 | southbob | how do you find the useability compared to windows ce? |
| 12:14.07 | Eseob | well i use tomcat navi under CE but thats the only thing thats working better - i found it really impressive what is possible with familiar |
| 12:38.05 | *** join/#familiar dopez (~unknown@dopez.user) |
| 13:13.44 | koobla | i tried to compile the handhelds-sa-2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh39 package that comes with OE for my h3760 |
| 13:14.06 | koobla | compile dies in ..../mtd/chipreg.c saying MAX_MAP_BANKWIDTH is undefined |
| 13:14.17 | koobla | is this a known bug or is my setup wrong? |
| 13:26.58 | koobla | anyone still there? |
| 13:35.37 | dopez | im here, but no answer for you, sorry |
| 13:36.20 | koobla | :) at least someone is alive |
| 13:37.39 | koobla | i am compiling the -hh37 in the meantime, maybe this works |
| 13:39.12 | dopez | good luck :) |
| 13:39.38 | dopez | i'm looking for a place to buy a usb/serial cable for my ipaq 3870, so i can upgrade my familiar 0.7.x install :) |
| 13:42.08 | koobla | ho, good luck as well :) i always use cf cards for this |
| 13:45.44 | dopez | i dont have the sleave for it, dont really need it also, i have a 1gb sd card for my music, and thats what i use it for mostly :) |
| 13:46.44 | koobla | thats a better use, agreed :) |
| 13:47.05 | koobla | i have a 3760 here, so no chance for internal storage... |
| 13:48.34 | dopez | hm, cant really remember, but i assume the 3700 and older series didnt have sd slots? |
| 13:49.32 | koobla | right - its always a big brick if you want to do anything non-trivial |
| 13:49.45 | dopez | hehe |
| 13:49.57 | koobla | good for throwing, at least |
| 13:50.28 | dopez | lol |
| 13:50.51 | dopez | well, i still like my 3870, also looks like there wouldnt be much better ones for upgrading atm (unless i go with something other then ipaqs) |
| 13:50.57 | southbob | is there a gaim client for opie? |
| 13:51.17 | koobla | the 3870 already has bluetooth? |
| 13:51.38 | dopez | koobla: indeed |
| 13:51.50 | koobla | :)) fine thing |
| 13:52.05 | dopez | but the 'slow' one, 230kbit max, the fixed that in the next series (3870) |
| 13:52.08 | dopez | eh, 3970 |
| 13:52.38 | koobla | well ok, but this is still ok to program a good sniffer |
| 13:52.47 | southbob | what clients are you guys using on your pcs for sycning? |
| 13:53.07 | koobla | southbob: i don't sync, sorry |
| 13:53.22 | southbob | thanks any way |
| 13:53.43 | dopez | dont sync either, but i want to once i upgrade to familiar 0.8.2 |
| 13:53.57 | southbob | i just installed 0.8.2 |
| 13:53.59 | koobla | depends on your desktop machine i suppose |
| 13:54.02 | southbob | its VERY nice |
| 13:54.15 | koobla | for kde, kitchensync should work fine |
| 13:54.52 | southbob | i'm really impressed with familiar its very mature much more mature than i though it would be |
| 13:55.00 | southbob | i'm a gnome nam |
| 13:55.04 | southbob | man* |
| 13:55.40 | koobla | great work, i have to agree |
| 13:57.04 | southbob | its a long way from the palm based distro i used years ago..you could only telnet using that |
| 13:58.48 | koobla | reminds me - i started with telnet on my first linux distro |
| 13:59.41 | southbob | any way to quickly disable wifi on opie? |
| 14:00.15 | koobla | ifdown eth0 ? |
| 14:00.42 | southbob | i guess i could do that...but its anoying having to go to the console |
| 14:00.58 | koobla | agreed |
| 14:01.14 | southbob | whats the point of having a touch screen if you can't use it |
| 14:01.41 | koobla | i use gpe, so opie will be different, but i have a pcmcia card dialog where i can suspend cards |
| 14:02.16 | southbob | what made you go with gpe over opie? |
| 14:03.06 | southbob | to me they both looked somewhat similar so it was a case of heads of tails for me |
| 14:03.18 | koobla | i started a gtk based devel project |
| 14:03.28 | koobla | the ipaq is just a testbed for me |
| 14:04.00 | koobla | no strong bias in one direction besides that |
| 14:04.29 | southbob | ok |
| 14:07.21 | southbob | i think this is one of the most accessible distributions i've ever seen. the guys who have developed this need some more credit, such fantastic work. |
| 14:10.05 | Eseob | hehe was astonished as you southbob, maybe even more because i worked with different JVMs under palmos in the past |
| 14:10.55 | *** join/#familiar mace (~mace@mace.developer.debian) |
| 14:26.38 | koobla | afk |
| 14:34.49 | *** join/#familiar evil_inuyasha (~pocketirc@lsanca2-ar39-4-3-091-142.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net) |
| 14:34.55 | evil_inuyasha | can i get some help? i have a 4705 and a 2755, when will this new ipaq be compatible? |
| 14:52.21 | *** join/#familiar jg (~jg@192.208.47.43) |
| 15:31.13 | *** part/#familiar Eseob (HydraIRC@topinambur.berkom.de) |
| 17:27.21 | *** join/#familiar Svartalf (~fearl@ext41.integratedtrading.com) |
| 18:12.54 | *** join/#familiar jg (~jg@192.208.47.43) |
| 19:16.08 | *** join/#familiar jernst (~jernst@c-67-161-26-113.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:33.13 | jernst | Hi everybody, I'm new here... I just installed Familiar 0.8.2 on an iPAQ h5550 (with the built-in WiFi), and I'm trying to get WiFi to work, but I'm unsuccessful. Somehow I might be missing something very basic ... is there any documentation anywhere? Any "best practices" ...? Couldn't find anything .... |
| 19:37.58 | jernst | Specifically I'm trying to configure interface wlan0 using the Opie 1.2.0 Network control panel. Even "Rescan Neighborhood" does not produce any networks, although there are most certainly a few in the area. |
| 19:38.43 | jernst | And Stopping the interface from the GUI does not work, although I can do ifdown wlan0 from the command line. |
| 19:41.35 | jernst | Funnily enough, when I do an "ifup -a", I'm getting an error on the command line: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : Set failed in device wlan0 ; Invalid argument |
| 19:42.44 | jernst | Where does it even get its arguments from? |
| 19:45.16 | jernst | [I guess I'm talking to myself ...] |
| 19:52.54 | *** join/#familiar arielMx (~ariel@proxyle01.ext.ti.com) |
| 19:53.09 | arielMx | i need some help with synce |
| 19:53.23 | arielMx | im trying to follow instructions on website about installing bootloader |
| 19:53.45 | arielMx | but I dont know where to get pcp |
| 20:28.33 | Blacknator_ | hi there. |
| 20:29.44 | Blacknator | i have installed familiar linux on my ipaq 5450. if i want to boot i only see the screen "please wait: booting...". is there a boot parameter to see the full boot log ? |
| 20:41.08 | *** part/#familiar jernst (~jernst@c-67-161-26-113.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:06.55 | *** join/#familiar {-award-} (admin@p54BE7CC6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:16.56 | *** part/#familiar Svartalf (~fearl@ext41.integratedtrading.com) |
| 21:50.10 | arielMx | mmm |
| 22:13.24 | *** join/#familiar sfrooz (~giacomo@host70-119.pool8248.interbusiness.it) |
| 23:32.46 | *** join/#familiar jg (~jg@c-24-60-31-143.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.52 | *** part/#familiar sfrooz (~giacomo@host70-119.pool8248.interbusiness.it) |