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| 15:44.52 | Paul3670 | [q] I need help getting an NP100 ethernet card working. Neither axnet nor pcnet seem to work. |
| 15:45.23 | Paul3670 | axnet freezes my iPaq, while pcnet simply doesn't work ("no driver loaded" message). Any ideas? |
| 15:45.32 | Paul3670 | The card worked in Familiar 0.7.2, but stopped working when I upgraded to 0.8.2 (stable). |
| 15:48.38 | Paul3670 | Anyone? >.> <.< |
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| 16:45.22 | Paul3670 | [q] Anyone here willing to help me get networking functioning? |
| 16:45.38 | Ge0rgy | Paul3670: sorry, no idea |
| 16:47.11 | Paul3670 | I just installed Familiar 0.8.2 on my iPaq, and no PC Card NIC I insert will work, even when I download the (supposedly) correct driver for it. |
| 16:47.35 | Paul3670 | I've tried 3 different ones, and I'm a bit frustrated - as everything worked fine under 0.7.2. |
| 16:48.26 | Ge0rgy | Paul3670: well, 0.7.2 uses another kernel surely, perhaps you can use that with the new familiar or just stay at 0.7.2 |
| 16:48.30 | Blah | what kinda card |
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| 16:49.18 | Paul3670 | Linksys NP100, 3Com 3C589D, Farallon 10. |
| 16:51.28 | Paul3670 | The Linksys was the one I was using at 0.7.2, but now it refuses to work. The axnet driver (sometimes) freezes the iPaq, and the pcnet driver simply doesn't work ("no driver loaded"). |
| 16:51.47 | Ge0rgy | Paul3670: really sorry, but i don't know anything about that. the WLan of my ipaq just works |
| 16:52.19 | Ge0rgy | but perhaps you need an other driver module in addition. |
| 16:52.40 | Paul3670 | I looked. Nothing is listed. The wiki doesn't have much info, either. |
| 16:53.26 | Ge0rgy | Paul3670: well... unfortunately i never used 0.7.2 so i can not say if there was an additional module loaded. but surely the kernel-versions are different |
| 16:53.27 | Paul3670 | And since I can't get it connected to the net, I have to manually download, transfer, "ar - x", "gunzip", and "tar" every single file. |
| 16:53.43 | Ge0rgy | oh boy... |
| 16:53.57 | Paul3670 | Yeah. I'm tired of fighting, I just want it to work. |
| 16:54.24 | Ge0rgy | perhaps it would be best to stay at 0.7.2 and keep it updated via ipkg update / upgrade |
| 16:54.39 | Paul3670 | Too late - I have 0.8.2 installed. |
| 16:54.54 | Ge0rgy | 0.7.2 not saved any way? |
| 16:55.27 | Paul3670 | Nope. Used the "flash via CF card" method, as the ipkg upgrade method did not work. |
| 16:56.06 | Paul3670 | So I have a shiny new 0.8.2 install, sans any functioning networking. |
| 16:56.26 | Paul3670 | And since it can't connect to the net, ipkg install <file> doesn't work. |
| 16:56.28 | Ge0rgy | was 0.7.2 working allright on your device? because if it was, i would suggest flash it back...must be on hh.org somewhere. sorry, but i'm not a kernel hacker... don't know much about drivers |
| 16:57.23 | Ge0rgy | are the network-cards CF? |
| 16:57.46 | Paul3670 | I can't back-track, the 0.7.2 install files aren't available in a "flash from CF" form any more. And I'm not doing a x-modem install again. |
| 16:58.08 | Paul3670 | PC-Cards (using the dual-PCMCIA adapter) |
| 16:58.23 | Ge0rgy | hmm... well, i hopoe there are pcmcia-modules loaded then... |
| 16:59.02 | Paul3670 | Yes, those work - I can access a memory card that I'm using to manually transfer files. |
| 16:59.48 | Ge0rgy | hmm... one moment, i can have a look at lsmod on my 5450 in a few minutes |
| 17:01.50 | Paul3670 | When I do an lsmod, depending on what I've told /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to load, it shows the correct module. But they simply don't work. |
| 17:01.55 | Ge0rgy | ok, mine has that modules loaded, but i don't have a CF-jacket at all |
| 17:02.12 | Ge0rgy | rfcomm 32352 0 (autoclean) |
| 17:02.13 | Ge0rgy | l2cap 16876 2 (autoclean) [rfcomm] |
| 17:02.13 | Ge0rgy | bluez 31752 1 (autoclean) [rfcomm l2cap] |
| 17:02.13 | Ge0rgy | h3600_generic_sleeve 6360 0 (unused) |
| 17:02.13 | Ge0rgy | ds 7324 2 |
| 17:02.13 | Ge0rgy | pxa_cs 12320 2 [h3600_generic_sleeve] |
| 17:02.15 | Ge0rgy | ipaq-sleeve 7740 0 [h3600_generic_sleeve pxa_cs] |
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| 17:02.57 | Paul3670 | wb |
| 17:03.07 | Paul3670 | The card in question is this: |
| 17:03.08 | Paul3670 | Product info: "Network Everywhere", "Fast Ethernet 10/100 PC Card", "3.0", "AX88190" |
| 17:03.09 | Paul3670 | manfid: 0x0149, 0xc1ab |
| 17:03.09 | Paul3670 | function: 6 (network) |
| 17:03.14 | Ge0rgy | ok, back |
| 17:03.27 | Paul3670 | I use this: |
| 17:03.28 | Paul3670 | card "Linksys EtherFast 10/100 Fast Ethernet" |
| 17:03.28 | Paul3670 | manfid 0x0149, 0xc1ab |
| 17:03.28 | Paul3670 | bind "axnet_cs" |
| 17:03.35 | Paul3670 | And it doesn't work. |
| 17:04.14 | Ge0rgy | hmm...i wonder what device-name that device gets... eht0 or somethign? |
| 17:04.19 | Paul3670 | If I bind it to "pcnet_cs" instead, it doesn't work. (The wiki conflicts with itself, saying that either will work.) |
| 17:04.49 | Paul3670 | A quick Google search seems to lean toward the axnet module. |
| 17:05.55 | Ge0rgy | hmm...ok, and an ifconfig -a doesn't show the device? |
| 17:07.05 | Paul3670 | Difficult to tell. Too much data on too small a screen. |
| 17:07.40 | Ge0rgy | well, surely... but it would be good to know |
| 17:08.10 | Paul3670 | The PC Card info screen lists it "not ready" and "no driver loaded." |
| 17:08.16 | Ge0rgy | but i'm surprised all day by the clock of my ipaq... it runs 1 hour forward now... |
| 17:08.59 | Ge0rgy | well, there is a cardctl-command for that i think... cardctl insert or something...perhaps |
| 17:09.11 | Paul3670 | And if I try to assign the driver, it returns the same thing. |
| 17:09.59 | Ge0rgy | perhaps your ipaq did not recognize the insertion of the card at all |
| 17:10.47 | Paul3670 | It sees it, lists it, and cardctl ident shows it. |
| 17:11.01 | Ge0rgy | hmm...very strange |
| 17:11.11 | Paul3670 | Yeah. That's putting it mildly. |
| 17:12.05 | Ge0rgy | unfortunately i can not test anything from here, because my ipaq is very difficult from yours... |
| 17:12.20 | Paul3670 | The only reference I can find is here: |
| 17:12.20 | Paul3670 | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/IpaqHardwareCompatibility_2fEthernet?action=highlight&value=NP100 |
| 17:12.43 | Paul3670 | Where it says: "Version 3 complains "sorry, the AX88190 chipset is not supported." |
| 17:13.08 | Paul3670 | Which, if you check the ID above, this card has. |
| 17:13.14 | Ge0rgy | oh well... not good |
| 17:13.30 | Ge0rgy | but i wonder how the old kernel from 0.7.2 can support it then |
| 17:13.39 | Paul3670 | But, it worked before! Which is maddening! |
| 17:13.48 | Paul3670 | And it continues, "Supposedly the newest version of pcmcia-cs (3.1.29?) has axnet_cs support" |
| 17:14.00 | Paul3670 | And the version I have is 3.2.x. |
| 17:14.52 | Paul3670 | And I have similar problems with the 3c589d card, too. I can't get /any/ NIC to work. >.< |
| 17:15.59 | Ge0rgy | 3Com Etherlink-III 10Base-T (3c589) PC Card (3C589D-TP) |
| 17:15.59 | Ge0rgy | Doesn't work (yet). |
| 17:15.59 | Ge0rgy | Detects, can be configured, but I never get a link light on the other end. The hardware address shows up as '00:00:00:00:00:00' instead of the correct address, it doesn't seem to be doing a full detection... |
| 17:15.59 | Ge0rgy | drclaw@dogsolitude.org |
| 17:15.59 | Ge0rgy | For info on getting card to work with Windows CE, see the brighthand.com group discussions regarding 3Com 3c589 and 3c589d: http://www.brighthand.com/ubb/Forum33/HTML/002895.html |
| 17:16.01 | Ge0rgy | livejive@hotmail.com |
| 17:16.12 | Ge0rgy | that is said to 3c589 there |
| 17:16.15 | Paul3670 | A "simple" upgrade has turned my iPaq into little better than a brick. I can't do anything with it until I can connect it to the 'net. |
| 17:16.37 | Paul3670 | Great. >.< |
| 17:17.26 | Ge0rgy | well, as i said, sorry but i can not test things here... i don't have such a device and are not that much used to network drivers in linux at all... |
| 17:17.39 | Ge0rgy | but i really wonder how the old kernel worked... |
| 17:17.47 | Paul3670 | As do I, now. |
| 17:18.45 | Paul3670 | If I can find a 16-bit, non-CardBus one, that is. |
| 17:19.37 | Ge0rgy | well...seems most of the gurus and devs are not here today... perhaps one of them would know something more |
| 17:20.33 | Paul3670 | Well, thanks for your help, at least. This has been a very frustrating experience. |
| 17:21.41 | Ge0rgy | yes, sadly... every happy user is great... but some things are really strange |
| 17:22.18 | Ge0rgy | let not frustrate you by PCs or handhelds or anything... the more i learn about those devices the more i wonder how they work and boot at all! *lol* |
| 17:23.46 | Paul3670 | Well, as bad as this is, it's a HELL of a lot better than the WinCE this thing came installed with. |
| 17:24.56 | Ge0rgy | Paul3670: yes, i noticed that also. |
| 17:25.50 | Ge0rgy | i had to work with winCE at work. no network shares... and to connect to a remote share you can only use device name, no ip-adress and all that silly stuff |
| 17:29.00 | Ge0rgy | good luck... |
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| 23:03.06 | meirm | hi there. |
| 23:03.35 | meirm | I got an hp rz1710 from work and I am interested in installing linux on it. |
| 23:03.51 | meirm | as far as I know there is no port yet. Any comments? |
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| 23:13.43 | meirm | how do I reset theipaq after an unsuccesful haret run? |
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