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| 03:09.27 | chrisag | Is there any plan for ipaq 41xx support in familiar |
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| 09:03.42 | lestest | hi there ... can I install Familiar on a ipaq 3600?? |
| 09:05.56 | bluelightning | lestest: yes... but recent Familiar versions don't leave much room for installing apps on the h3600 |
| 09:07.41 | lestest | bluelightning: how much memory would it need' |
| 09:08.05 | bluelightning | it ends up using about 15MB of the 16MB of flash IIRC |
| 09:08.39 | lestest | and application cannot be stored in ram? |
| 09:08.52 | bluelightning | no, and IMO that's a good thing |
| 09:09.14 | bluelightning | can't count the number of times I have heard of people losing all of their data on their WinCE-based devices |
| 09:09.59 | lestest | bluelightning: hence I can't use it on my IPAQ? |
| 09:10.11 | bluelightning | lestest: why not? |
| 09:10.56 | lestest | cos afair it has 16MB of rom |
| 09:11.27 | bluelightning | as I said, you can install it.. but you will not have a lot of room for extra applications (beyond PIM stuff etc.) |
| 09:11.58 | lestest | which are the applications it came with? |
| 09:12.46 | bluelightning | depends which environment you install (Opie / GPE) |
| 09:13.44 | lestest | so installation you were talking about consider also one of the two's enviroments? |
| 09:14.42 | bluelightning | Opie includes a full PIM suite (address book, calendar, notepad, todo list), settings apps, file manager, backup, etc. |
| 09:14.51 | bluelightning | yes, you have to choose one of the two |
| 09:15.07 | bluelightning | GPE has similar selection of default apps as well |
| 09:15.23 | lestest | Opie seems the most complete |
| 09:15.59 | bluelightning | I agree... but then I'm part of the Opie team, so I'm kinda biased :) |
| 09:17.15 | lestest | bluelightning: does the 15-16MB includes the mail manager, the pdf reader, and a browser? |
| 09:17.45 | bluelightning | lestest: no, that is extra |
| 09:18.24 | lestest | ouch ... and there is on way ti install them? |
| 09:19.16 | bluelightning | I understand you can install software on removable cards, but I have never tried that |
| 09:19.27 | bluelightning | you can also remove unwanted packages to save a little space |
| 09:20.31 | lestest | removable cards? |
| 09:20.38 | lestest | I need some expansion? |
| 09:20.47 | bluelightning | on the h3600 you would need a sleeve, yes |
| 09:21.15 | bluelightning | if you wanted to use removable cards |
| 09:22.06 | lestest | and that's better than ram? |
| 09:22.46 | bluelightning | it's better than RAM because if your battery runs out, you don't lose all of your data |
| 09:22.58 | lestest | I see :) |
| 09:23.13 | lestest | bluelightning: does it also exist some usb host for it? |
| 09:23.18 | bluelightning | I agree, it's a bit limiting with only 16MB of flash on the h3600, but other devices have more flash |
| 09:24.05 | bluelightning | lestest: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UsbHost |
| 09:24.05 | lestest | sorry I got this thing from a person wich upgraded to 3800 and I would like to kown how can I use it best |
| 09:24.39 | bluelightning | the Ratoc USB host CF card works (I have one) but it's expensive and not all that practical |
| 09:25.06 | lestest | I see |
| 09:25.17 | lestest | so what would you suggest? |
| 09:26.12 | bluelightning | well, you could try installing Familiar on the h3600 to see if you like it, and if it suits your needs, consider purchasing another iPAQ with more built-in flash |
| 09:26.27 | bluelightning | they're pretty cheap on ebay these days |
| 09:27.38 | lestest | I have also a broken 3800. I can try to repair it |
| 09:27.57 | lestest | the battery is dead |
| 09:28.10 | lestest | and I have read I can use a phone battery |
| 09:28.13 | lestest | right? |
| 09:30.39 | bluelightning | lestest: take a look on ebay, I've seen internal iPAQ batteries for sale on there |
| 09:31.09 | bluelightning | in theory you could use a different battery but it would have to fit in the case and have the same voltage, etc... |
| 09:31.20 | bluelightning | easier just to get the proper one I would think |
| 09:31.44 | lestest | I see |
| 09:31.47 | lestest | thanks |
| 09:32.31 | lestest | it also ave the plastic thing on the top (the on with ir port) removed |
| 09:32.45 | lestest | can you think I can get it somewhere? |
| 09:35.22 | lestest | bluelightning: in any case you would not sujjest me to buy an expansion for some sort of memory (like CF) |
| 09:35.27 | lestest | for my 3600 I mean |
| 09:36.08 | bluelightning | lestest: there are ipaq repair companies who sell individual components like that still I think (plastic cover) |
| 09:36.43 | bluelightning | yes I would, the expansion pack is definitely useful |
| 09:36.56 | bluelightning | aka expansion sleeve |
| 09:37.27 | bluelightning | the "plus" packs extend battery life as well |
| 09:38.22 | lestest | bluelightning: can you point me to them? |
| 09:38.35 | bluelightning | which? |
| 09:39.15 | bluelightning | if you mean for the plastic cover: http://www.ipaqrepair.com/ |
| 09:39.50 | bluelightning | also, http://www.pdasmart.com/ |
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| 09:50.08 | lestest | bluelightning: thank you very much for all your infos |
| 09:50.59 | bluelightning | lestest: no problem |
| 09:51.14 | lestest | bluelightning: you were very kind |
| 09:52.39 | erkki | hello, anyone here "familiar" with openembedded? |
| 09:53.02 | bluelightning | erkki: I would suggest #oe for openembedded-related stuff |
| 09:53.20 | erkki | bluelightning: thanks, I'll try there |
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| 19:38.54 | laboom | hi, i search for a pdf viewer for my ipaq. which package? |
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