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| 02:42.23 | marinka | hi |
| 02:42.59 | marinka | any one know if hp foldable keyboard is supported on linux on ipaq ? |
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| 02:56.37 | TheLich | hello to all... |
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| 12:33.16 | albertux | hi to all. i'm new with familiar. i've a doubt: do SD cards work with the iPaq h3800 series? |
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| 18:57.44 | jsjc | hi how are you doing tonight? |
| 18:58.38 | jsjc | i'm getting bit frustrated... with my ipaq batteries, i just bought two of them and they look like they dont hold any charge... could be possible? two of them... new? |
| 18:59.01 | jsjc | my familiar said that there is no battery and turn off. |
| 18:59.27 | jsjc | but the ipaq can be on with the bootloader screen after a hard reset for couple hours |
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| 21:16.50 | ada1 | hello |
| 21:17.46 | ada1 | anybody listening? |
| 21:17.52 | poli | ada1: yup |
| 21:18.20 | ada1 | hey there...care to offer a little help? |
| 21:18.41 | poli | If I can... tell me your problem. |
| 21:18.51 | ada1 | thanks |
| 21:19.19 | ada1 | well i installed opie on an ipaq |
| 21:19.36 | poli | familiar? Which one? Which ipaq? |
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| 21:20.13 | ada1 | yes, opie familiar on an ipaq 3800, a flash install failed so I used the serial port |
| 21:20.36 | poli | which familiar version? |
| 21:20.46 | ada1 | umm, 0.8.2 |
| 21:20.57 | poli | ok |
| 21:21.19 | ada1 | it runs just fine, except that I can't get the removable flash drive to work |
| 21:21.40 | poli | CF? |
| 21:21.48 | ada1 | SD |
| 21:22.07 | poli | Can you see it in dmesg or /proc/partitions ? |
| 21:22.23 | ada1 | just a sec |
| 21:22.53 | poli | Should show up like mmcblock0 or mmcblock0p* I guess |
| 21:23.21 | ada1 | yeah, there are a bunch of mmc_cin_single_card entries |
| 21:23.40 | ada1 | one of em says CARD_STATE_READY |
| 21:23.43 | poli | tell me what you see in /proc/partitions |
| 21:24.50 | ada1 | 254 0 mmcdisk and 3 others |
| 21:25.16 | poli | list all the mmc ones, please |
| 21:25.57 | ada1 | the other three are mtdblock, not mmc |
| 21:26.18 | poli | Ok.. then mmcdisk seems to be what you want |
| 21:26.23 | poli | mtd are internal flash |
| 21:26.42 | poli | try a fdisk /dev/mmcdisk |
| 21:26.52 | poli | and see if you get to see the partitioning of the device |
| 21:28.30 | ada1 | fdisk /dev/mmc/disk i guess...it comes up with an empty partition table |
| 21:29.29 | ada1 | must be reading it, it says 63 MB 1940 cylinders etc |
| 21:29.36 | poli | the only file in /dev/mmc is that one? |
| 21:30.01 | ada1 | yes, just "disc" |
| 21:30.27 | poli | Well, seems like the kernel sees no partitions on the disk. Did you try opening it somewhere else? |
| 21:31.30 | ada1 | yeah, i put it into a usb hub on a windows machine and it reads it fine |
| 21:32.00 | poli | well, then go ahead and try to mount it. Maybe it is partitionless |
| 21:32.20 | poli | (unsual, I must say, but possible) |
| 21:34.02 | ada1 | wow. It mounted, type vfat (I didn't specify fs type), and I can see the files |
| 21:34.13 | poli | Problem solved? |
| 21:34.48 | ada1 | I guess so. Do you think if I put a partition table on there, it will automount? |
| 21:34.57 | ada1 | I don't mind wiping it |
| 21:35.00 | poli | ada1: Probably. |
| 21:35.34 | ada1 | ok, and if I use it solely on this machine, is there a better fs i should use? |
| 21:35.50 | poli | Better in what sense? |
| 21:36.39 | poli | You can use ext2, if you need permissions, or ext3 if you need journal (shoulnd't be the case), otherwise I guess FAT16 is enough. |
| 21:37.01 | ada1 | ok, what about jffs2. is that appropriate? |
| 21:37.12 | ada1 | i'm just not very familiar with all the fs types |
| 21:37.18 | poli | (Talking about a 64MB disk, larger ones could benefit from other formats, yes( |
| 21:37.30 | poli | No. Don't use jffs2 for that. |
| 21:38.22 | poli | SD and CF has some internal wearing prevention mechanisms that make FAT and ext2 good options, as they behave much like a regular HD. |
| 21:38.53 | poli | jffs2 is suitable for mtd where you need to get wear control in the fs, not in the device itself. |
| 21:39.24 | poli | And it is damn sloooow. |
| 21:39.24 | ada1 | Ok, thanks for your help. The wear was my main concern, although I don't know how big of an issue it will really be. |
| 21:39.48 | poli | Sure. Good luck. :) |
| 21:44.08 | ada1 | I actually have another question, completely unrelated. |
| 21:45.15 | ada1 | I haven't tried it, but is there a way to display a file in UTF-8 that has greek characters in it? |
| 21:51.24 | ada1 | guess no one wants to field that one :) |
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