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| 01:47.50 | _root__ | hello everyone |
| 01:47.59 | _root__ | i need some help |
| 01:48.32 | _root__ | i noticed 8.0.3 is up on the server.. |
| 01:48.46 | _root__ | and has multiple rootfs files |
| 01:49.04 | _root__ | one has a directory tree |
| 01:49.18 | _root__ | does that mean i can put it on a CF card and boot? |
| 01:49.22 | _root__ | if so , how? |
| 01:50.02 | _root__ | hello everyone? |
| 01:51.15 | _root__ | anyone? |
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| 01:58.42 | Toms | Hi |
| 01:59.02 | Toms | need a little help here |
| 01:59.41 | Toms | is 8.0.3 usable? |
| 02:00.57 | Toms | hello? |
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| 02:17.15 | Tomtom | hi all |
| 02:18.03 | Tomtom | can anyone tell me wheather 8.0.3 is usable? |
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| 04:07.27 | Tomtom | hi |
| 04:07.57 | Tomtom | any dev's want to hear my expiriance with various builds? |
| 04:08.13 | Tomtom | experience* |
| 04:08.44 | Tomtom | build date 20051207 - loads forever |
| 04:09.07 | Tomtom | build date 20051222 - wont calibrate properly |
| 04:09.27 | Tomtom | build date 20051224 RC1 - Black Screen (darK) |
| 04:09.52 | Tomtom | tested on an ipaq3600 btw |
| 04:10.01 | Tomtom | hope this helps somewhat |
| 04:10.24 | Tomtom | oh yeah |
| 04:10.31 | Tomtom | all above are opie builds |
| 04:12.33 | Tomtom | keep up the good work |
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| 06:03.48 | justalad | Happy New Year! |
| 06:06.59 | balrog-kun | thanks, same for you :D |
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| 07:24.35 | deus_ | I need help |
| 07:24.41 | deus_ | i cant getup the splash screen |
| 07:24.47 | deus_ | the bootloader i mean |
| 07:25.03 | deus_ | i press in joystick and the reboot button |
| 07:25.07 | deus_ | but nothing happens |
| 07:25.12 | deus_ | its just freezes |
| 07:27.45 | deus_ | help! |
| 07:32.05 | deus_ | damn it to hell |
| 07:32.08 | deus_ | google is useless |
| 08:12.53 | justalad | anybody know something good about localedef bug? |
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| 09:10.11 | aftertaf | anyone know about networking with new 2.6 kernels that no longer use hoplug for the usb? |
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| 12:47.31 | Uktom03 | hi all |
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| 13:58.59 | aftertaf | anyone know about networking with new 2.6 kernels that no longer use hoplug for the usb? |
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| 15:54.48 | deus_ | i know i know rtfm, and i have, but something is not working so can someone just explain to me what procedure i should take with minicom ? |
| 15:54.57 | deus_ | im trying to install |
| 15:55.07 | deus_ | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/install/install-serial.html |
| 16:03.50 | deus_ | Im using xmodem |
| 16:03.53 | deus_ | i sat |
| 16:03.57 | deus_ | set ymodem 0 |
| 16:04.03 | deus_ | and then ran load boot |
| 16:04.19 | deus_ | its been running for a while with little dots appearing |
| 16:04.23 | deus_ | normal, no? |
| 16:04.39 | deus_ | and is it normal that only one key interupts the whole thing? |
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| 16:34.42 | joaocep | hey people.. good afternoon |
| 16:35.21 | joaocep | the boot for h3900 ipaq series .. is correct for ipaq h3800 series? |
| 16:35.33 | joaocep | or h3600? |
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| 17:48.31 | justalad | where I can find xaux-clients package for familiar 0.8.3? |
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| 20:28.10 | flupke | Can I (ask a question) ? |
| 20:28.34 | flupke | (am I on the chat, I.o.w.) ? |
| 20:31.27 | flupke | I have an iPAQ, and succeeded in loading bootldr on it. I could load files, but then I had to go to sleep. Should I have let the power on ? Because now, my iPAQ is a 'brick' (as some people would say)... |
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| 20:38.47 | flupke | ... or am I on the wrong channel here, for such a question ? |
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| 20:51.33 | George | is familiar 0.8.2 built with gcc 2 or 3? |
| 20:54.06 | philiberke | not too much of a reaction around, George :( |
| 20:54.21 | George | heh |
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| 20:57.50 | George | philiberke: I basically want to try and run my old Zaurus commercial apps on my new ipaq |
| 20:59.16 | philiberke | Sorry, can't help you; I myself am a newbie suffering from a dead iPAQ (but up to now, no reaction neither). Why is it important, in your case, to know the gcc version ? |
| 21:00.07 | George | philiberke: because the zaurus apps are linked against the qt libraries which were built using gcc 2.x |
| 21:00.32 | George | philiberke: a couple of years ago OpenEmbedded switched their buildsystem to use gcc 3 which is binary incompatible with gcc 2 |
| 21:01.17 | philiberke | still then, I'd think in that case, that the familiar's glibc would be the relevant thing to know, not so ? |
| 21:01.36 | George | gilbc should be binary compatible |
| 21:03.32 | philiberke | so, do you have a problem, then ? did you try to compile and link ? |
| 21:04.14 | George | ? |
| 21:04.28 | George | actually, I've got it executing now |
| 21:04.38 | George | it just thinks no Qt/Embedded server is running |
| 21:07.04 | philiberke | so the app can't even open an X display (or what do you mean by a Qt/embedded server) |
| 21:07.58 | George | opie.. |
| 21:08.16 | George | Qtopia/Opie use a Qt/Embedded server for rendering stuff |
| 21:09.28 | philiberke | "server" == X server ? or otherwise, what's such a "server" doing ? |
| 21:09.34 | George | no |
| 21:09.42 | George | Qt/Embedded server for graphics.. |
| 21:09.47 | George | it's like an x server, but it's not |
| 21:11.14 | philiberke | So it (the Qt/Embedded server) is being connected-to by apps, am I correct ? |
| 21:14.23 | George | yes |
| 21:16.23 | philiberke | is it (the Qt/Embedded server) working in some similar way as X11 ? because if it would be (working like X11), then would the familiar build really matter ? because then, there's no (e.g. runtime) linkage in some way, but rather some message-like data exchanges ? |
| 21:16.55 | philiberke | and is it a daemon that's running ? |
| 21:20.33 | George | philiberke: no. |
| 21:20.53 | George | philiberke: I've installed gcc2 compat libraries and managed to get opera to execute, hence why I've got this qt/e problem |
| 21:28.42 | philiberke | Wouldn't it be like this : opera is using the glibc of familiar (at runtime), but Qt/Embedded is using it's own library; and that one is incompatible with familiar, unless you recompile (at least) your Qt/Embedded libs ? Someone on this list really must know the answer on this assumption ....... |
| 21:35.28 | philiberke | s/libs /libs (linking with the gcc compat libraries you have on your iPAQ) / |
| 21:39.51 | philiberke | George: your idea on this ? |
| 21:40.36 | George | hrmm, maybe |
| 21:41.57 | philiberke | --->>> philiberke sees 26 people in the room, and wonders why no one else says something ... |
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| 21:55.18 | George | prh: yo |
| 22:16.38 | jott__ | george: you have do mkdir /var/tmp/qtembedded-root/ and symlink /var/tmp/qtembedded-0/QtEmbedded-0 into it.. |
| 22:17.40 | George | jott: what does that do? |
| 22:17.41 | jott | and set the appropiate LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the old libs.. |
| 22:19.05 | jott | this sets the socket for the qtfb to the path where opera and other old apps look for it .. |
| 22:19.30 | George | ahh ok |
| 22:26.08 | philiberke | George: CU, good luck on your "quest" for the solution ! |
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| 22:27.41 | jott | george: http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/PDAforum_posts.asp?TID=199&PN=1 you may follow this additional hints for opera |
| 22:34.59 | George | jott: thanks |
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