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| 04:04.54 | wacky | hey guys :) I'm surfing the web for Linux PDAs.. and fell on your handhelds.org website. |
| 04:05.13 | wacky | Is Familiar on iPAQ PDAs useable ? And a full replacement to the software bundled with the products ? |
| 04:12.04 | wacky | All I want is a Linux-based PDA. What do you guys would recommend ? |
| 04:16.57 | wtbw | you could try the zaurus |
| 04:17.05 | wtbw | that comes with linux by default |
| 04:20.58 | wacky | what type of distribution do they use ? |
| 04:21.32 | wacky | has it fostered a good user community ? anything open-source coming out ? |
| 04:21.40 | wtbw | dont know too many details, they use the whole qtopia thing |
| 04:21.46 | wtbw | theres certainly quite a community around them now |
| 04:21.51 | wtbw | google a bit and see :) |
| 04:22.06 | wacky | yeah.. but I get quite lost fast.. and I get a lot of old data.. |
| 04:22.17 | wacky | so I though coming here would give bleeding edge info :) |
| 04:22.31 | wacky | what about an iPAQ ? is it hard to get Familiar running on them ? |
| 04:22.58 | wacky | Familiar seems to be a Linux distribution specifically designed for PDAs, is it ? |
| 04:23.02 | wtbw | not very, again, read the site :) |
| 04:23.18 | wtbw | but there will always be a difference between a pda designed for linux and one not |
| 04:23.32 | wacky | are the iPAQ designed with Linux in mind ? |
| 04:23.36 | wtbw | no. |
| 04:23.45 | wacky | oh.. |
| 04:24.01 | wacky | so is it like trying to run ucLinux on the iPods and all these tweaks people are trying to do ? |
| 04:24.09 | wtbw | yes, but more developed :0 |
| 04:24.10 | wtbw | :) |
| 04:24.17 | wtbw | you really can find all this type of info out by searching yourself |
| 04:24.23 | wacky | I mean.. would you buy an iPAQ, knowing you'll flush the OS on it, and install Familiar ? |
| 04:24.30 | wtbw | personally no |
| 04:24.56 | wacky | is there a list of supported devices somewhere, or something alike ? |
| 04:25.16 | wtbw | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary |
| 04:28.00 | wacky | do you know the community website for the Zaurus, where people develop and create that distribution ? |
| 04:28.27 | wtbw | its created by sharp |
| 04:28.28 | wtbw | http://www.myzaurus.com/ |
| 04:28.58 | wacky | the only problem I see.. is that.. you see, in Familiar.. you have seem to have a very "open" community, since they made everything. And sometimes.. I see "official linux OS" something like Linspire.. something a bit less "open"-oriented |
| 04:29.14 | wacky | hmm. let me check |
| 04:29.37 | wtbw | sure |
| 04:29.56 | wtbw | i must go im afraid |
| 04:30.00 | wtbw | bye for now, good luck |
| 04:31.33 | wacky | hey, thanks :) see you later |
| 04:37.26 | wacky | man.. I want a real geek site for my Linux PDA.. not that myzaurus buzzwords company specs |
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| 08:58.53 | Tracy | hey |
| 09:01.32 | bluelightning | Tracy: hello |
| 09:02.35 | Tracy | Bluelightning: do you anything about the cvs link for bluez? |
| 09:06.37 | bluelightning | Tracy: cvs link? |
| 09:11.03 | Tracy | bluelightning: yes its empty!!! |
| 09:16.01 | bluelightning | Tracy: Is this what you're after? http://www.bluez.org/cvs.html |
| 09:19.29 | Tracy | bluelightning: no the bluez folder in the familiar cvs is empty |
| 09:23.12 | bluelightning | Tracy: that's probably because it's really an external project |
| 09:27.09 | Tracy | bluelightninig: ok so what do i do now? |
| 09:29.42 | bluelightning | Tracy: well, I'm assuming you want to build the package from source |
| 09:30.03 | bluelightning | which means you should probably have a look at OpenEmbedded, since that's what's used to build familiar packages |
| 09:31.00 | bluelightning | the OE repository contains all of the build information for all of Familiar plus any patches |
| 09:31.28 | Tracy | bluelighning: do you have a link for me please? |
| 09:32.24 | Tracy | bluelightning: all im trying to do is to find out whats inside these bluez ipkg for v0.8.3 |
| 09:33.02 | Tracy | bluelightning: trying to see if it will support a bluetooth headset? |
| 09:48.00 | bluelightning | Tracy: hmm... well, to support a bluetooth headset you need the bluez sco module and probably a module to make it appear as a sound device |
| 09:48.07 | bluelightning | but I don't really know any more than that |
| 09:50.28 | Tracy | blueligthning: thnks for all your help!!! |
| 09:51.46 | Tracy | blueligthning: can you give me any starting points? |
| 09:57.44 | bluelightning | Tracy: only the bluez-sco thing (SCO is the protocol used for bluetooth headsets) |
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| 10:42.21 | Protocol- | hi |
| 10:47.05 | Protocol- | I'm using familiar on an hp ipaq H5550 since yesterday, came home late and the battery was completely drained out, now it won't charge anymore, any idea? |
| 10:47.18 | Protocol- | the battery is 1 month old |
| 10:48.34 | Protocol- | the red chorging light blinks and opie says it's fully charged, when I disconect the power it simply turns off |
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| 11:36.00 | bluelightning | Protocol-: try taking the battery out and leaving it out for a few hours, then put it back in |
| 11:59.08 | Protocol- | I tried, though not for a few hours, and another problem, when I remove the battery to reset it, the first time it _always_ fail to boot and shows a blank screen with a pink line 2mm wide on the left |
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| 12:00.51 | Protocol- | then I reset it with the pen, it reboots correctly and when the login screen appears it turns off |
| 12:01.10 | Tracy | hey im back!!! |
| 12:01.22 | Protocol- | hello =) |
| 12:02.47 | Tracy | protocol->: looks like the kernel is unstable |
| 12:03.02 | Protocol- | Tracy: yep, I also had problems with the mmc |
| 12:03.30 | Tracy | protocol->: what version are you running? |
| 12:03.40 | Protocol- | I'm untaring the arm toolchains to compile another.. |
| 12:04.08 | Protocol- | Linux h3900 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37 #1 Thu Apr 7 16:13:26 CEST 2005 armv5tel unknown |
| 12:05.30 | Tracy | protocol->: damn |
| 12:06.53 | Tracy | im using arm5tel no problem! |
| 12:07.15 | Protocol- | I want to compile a kernel with mmc built-in to try booting from the mmc |
| 12:08.28 | Protocol- | does it need something else? |
| 12:08.42 | Protocol- | Tracy: what's your model? hp h5550? |
| 12:08.54 | Tracy | protocol->: no im using a h3870 |
| 12:09.44 | Tracy | im trying to connect a bluetooth headset to ine |
| 12:10.16 | Tracy | looking for the latest snd-bt-sco |
| 12:10.25 | Tracy | any ideas? |
| 12:12.59 | Protocol- | nop, it's not in the feeds.. =] |
| 12:14.10 | Protocol- | but I'm new to familiar, so I don't know really.. |
| 12:44.39 | Tracy | thanks! |
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| 20:20.12 | harleypig | I don't wanna put WinCE back on my iPAQ WAAAAAAAHHHH! |
| 20:20.51 | harleypig | anyone know how to get a h3870 connected to an xp box? all the howtos and other google links are at least 2 years out of date and no longer relevant |
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| 22:36.49 | deus__ | I belive my ipod is still sapping power even if hit the power button |
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