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| 04:41.22 | emte | france, http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=747 for you to take a gander at. It restores buildability. |
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| 08:14.13 | Genesis | o? |
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| 09:25.28 | Furunk3l | good morning gentlemen |
| 09:26.58 | Furunk3l | maybe someone is able to help me. |
| 09:27.05 | Furunk3l | i am stuck while flashing |
| 09:29.13 | Furunk3l | is there a chance to flash a IPAQ3850 with the SDCard? |
| 09:29.29 | Furunk3l | only bootloader is working |
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| 10:08.04 | _lritter | uhm |
| 10:08.10 | _lritter | familiar update server seems to be down? |
| 11:41.44 | nusse | i want to restore wince, but dont know which image i need |
| 11:42.11 | nusse | h5450_wince.gz h5450_wince_asset.gz h5450_wince_root.gz? |
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| 13:45.58 | nusse | i have flashed opie-image-v0.8.3-h3900.rootfs.jffs2 and now suspend/resume does not work anymore, what to do? |
| 14:09.03 | nusse | actually nearly nothing works |
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| 17:19.22 | nusse | could someone remove busybox from 0.8.3 feed as it is BROKEN, kills all symlinks to busybox |
| 17:19.48 | france_ | nusse: a new RC is being built... |
| 17:20.28 | nusse | install images? |
| 17:22.22 | france_ | <nods> |
| 17:23.39 | nusse | can i upgrade with ipkg or do i have to reflash them? |
| 17:24.10 | france_ | nusse: I would hope that you could upgrade, but I am not the one rebuilding it. |
| 17:24.29 | nusse | well, actually i went back from opie-image-v0.8.3-h3900.rootfs.jffs2 to opie-image-h3900-20060129091204.rootfs.jffs2 as a lot of stuff seemed to be broken |
| 17:25.11 | france_ | nusse: good to know |
| 17:25.30 | nusse | (well, perhaps only on h5450) |
| 17:25.49 | nusse | the first thing after reflashing will be setting busybox on hold |
| 17:25.56 | nusse | i hope ipkg offers such a feature |
| 17:31.44 | france_ | it is supposed to work that way but sometimes it doesnt. |
| 17:37.13 | nusse | does busybox from unstable work? |
| 17:37.55 | nusse | if im gonna install it, the version from 0.8.3 should never be installed |
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| 17:41.27 | nxu | nusse: sounds like you've run into bug #1503 |
| 17:41.49 | nusse | nxu: yep, but why is it not fixed? |
| 17:42.09 | nusse | or why is it still in the feed? i ran into this bug two months ago already |
| 17:42.47 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 17:43.30 | reenoo | nxu, nusse: what was the exact problem? |
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| 17:44.10 | nusse | reenoo: ipkg removes all links to busybox while upgrading |
| 17:44.25 | nusse | and this time also ipkg was gone |
| 17:44.30 | nusse | so im reflashing again |
| 17:44.39 | reenoo | doh |
| 17:44.47 | nusse | lasttime i was able to recreate all the symlinks to busybox and restart ipkg upgrade |
| 17:45.01 | nusse | do i use the wrong feed? |
| 17:45.33 | reenoo | dunno. the 0.8.3 feeds are overall in a rather unfortunate state. |
| 17:46.00 | nusse | anything more recent than 0.8.2? |
| 17:47.18 | france_ | lots of work being done.... |
| 17:48.34 | reenoo | nusse: I'm in the process of rebuilding the feeds. it's just that I'd like to get it right this time and may need a couple days to sort out a few infrastructural issues. |
| 17:51.17 | nusse | i see |
| 17:51.43 | nusse | has anyone ever tried to update the atmel wifi firmware using atmel_fwl.c? |
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| 18:05.12 | nusse | btw, on the first boot, opie never starts, but it gets started |
| 18:05.19 | nusse | and no login possible because no shadowpw |
| 18:06.58 | reenoo | opie wants passwords in /etc/shadow? we've never had that type of thing in familiar... |
| 18:08.11 | emte | reenoo, can you look at http://bugs.treke.net/show_bug.cgi?id=747 and commit it please |
| 18:08.15 | nusse | no, i cant login on ttyS0 |
| 18:08.27 | emte | if your handling the familiar stuff |
| 18:09.02 | reenoo | emte: I've replied to that on oe@ |
| 18:09.09 | emte | checking email now |
| 18:09.27 | reenoo | emte: hh.org appears to be busy right now. may take a while to reach you. |
| 18:09.51 | reenoo | emte: in a nutshell, familiar-unstable.conf should work minus qemu issues |
| 18:10.14 | reenoo | emte: I've explained the qemu situation before and am not going to repeat myself again. |
| 18:10.39 | emte | reenoo, i dont see your message, but that binutils introduces libgcc errors which show up when compiling glibc |
| 18:10.47 | france_ | reenoo: yahoo and ask jeeves are pounding the servers... I need to move some more services to other boxes... |
| 18:11.06 | france_ | reenoo: I moved ftp.handhleds.org a few days ago, it has helped some. |
| 18:11.13 | emte | this is irrespective of qemu |
| 18:26.29 | nusse | anyone familiar with atmel stuff and could check atmel_fwl.c? there is some kind of atmel recognition thru some magic value 0x51807. when i run atmel_fwl it claims that i dont have an atmel interface |
| 18:28.14 | nusse | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/6SuVCY85.html thats the source file, can i just kill that if statement? |
| 18:28.39 | reenoo|dinner | emte: yah, I know. but the patch you attached changes ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALES as well. |
| 18:28.53 | reenoo|dinner | emte: the other thing is a bug in familiar-unstable.conf |
| 18:29.08 | emte | reenoo|dinner, only to disable it in semistable as it is known not to work |
| 18:29.20 | emte | ? |
| 18:29.24 | reenoo|dinner | it works |
| 18:29.36 | emte | i cannot use it |
| 18:29.42 | reenoo|dinner | then disable it |
| 18:29.46 | emte | lol |
| 18:29.52 | emte | i do |
| 18:30.16 | emte | but if qemu now builds for most host then that change needs to be reverted |
| 18:30.28 | emte | as per my reasoning |
| 18:30.36 | reenoo|dinner | breaking locales would simply not be familiar anymore |
| 18:30.56 | reenoo|dinner | you are free to change that setting in your local.conf |
| 18:31.11 | emte | btw which bug in -unstable are you refering to? |
| 18:31.30 | emte | i still disagree with forcing that on users |
| 18:31.31 | reenoo|dinner | koen changed binutils preferences around |
| 18:31.51 | emte | and taht is why it no longer works? |
| 18:31.52 | reenoo|dinner | and didn't add a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to familiar-unstable.conf |
| 18:31.57 | reenoo|dinner | yes |
| 18:32.23 | emte | mmm |
| 18:32.35 | reenoo|dinner | and nothing is forced on anyone |
| 18:33.26 | reenoo|dinner | you can override it, remove it, whatever |
| 18:33.27 | reenoo|dinner | once you do that you're no longer building a familiar image |
| 18:33.27 | emte | PREFERED_PROVIDER shouldnt really be in unstable unless all packages forever after will never build or had a license chang i would think |
| 18:33.27 | reenoo|dinner | pretty simple |
| 18:33.35 | reenoo|dinner | no, that's not true |
| 18:33.45 | reenoo|dinner | we're not going to go EABI anytime soon |
| 18:34.01 | reenoo|dinner | same goes for the current X breakage I guess |
| 18:35.36 | emte | i am still curious how all these breakages got propigated into the oz-fam branch |
| 18:36.02 | reenoo|dinner | nothing of that is in the release branch |
| 18:36.09 | emte | its all there |
| 18:36.13 | reenoo|dinner | no |
| 18:36.17 | emte | thats the only branch i am pulling |
| 18:37.00 | emte | i removed .dev to chanse this glibc-libgcc problem |
| 18:37.03 | emte | chanse* |
| 18:37.04 | reenoo|dinner | I don't know what you or monotone are doing on you box, but all this is not in the release branch |
| 18:37.14 | emte | bah i still cant spall chase |
| 18:37.16 | reenoo|dinner | your box even |
| 18:37.37 | reenoo|dinner | there's not even a familiar-unstable.conf in the release branch |
| 18:37.58 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.27 | reenoo|dinner | the point being? |
| 18:38.45 | reenoo|dinner | org.openembedded.dev is org.openembedded.dev, not org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
| 18:38.51 | emte | seeing if you might see why mine is different |
| 18:39.03 | reenoo|dinner | checkout the right branch and use that |
| 18:39.15 | emte | the directory is tehre for local.conf path setup |
| 18:40.30 | emte | otherwise i have to go change ~4 enviroment scripts |
| 18:41.20 | reenoo|dinner | that may very well be. but the stuff in question is in .dev and only in .dev ATM |
| 18:42.21 | emte | hmm, maybe using the snapshot is giving me problems |
| 18:45.51 | nusse | where can i view the bugs? |
| 18:46.03 | nusse | ah, works again |
| 18:46.03 | emte | for which |
| 18:46.15 | reenoo|dinner | emte: see, I can't help it that OE is using monotone (been fighting that decision for quite a while), neither can I change people's misconceptions of what .dev is. but the problems you have are not a problem in the release branch. |
| 18:47.22 | emte | reenoo|dinner, yeah, i am pulling a full clean repo now without the snapshot |
| 18:47.53 | nusse | http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1503 ASSIGNED means it was not fixed yet? |
| 18:48.03 | emte | i wish i would have had more help instead of chasing this issue since sunday |
| 18:48.19 | emte | nusse, correct |
| 18:48.39 | emte | well the solution was not commited if it was fixed |
| 18:50.05 | reenoo | emte: yah, I'm sorry for that. but I lack the time to work on .dev right now. |
| 18:50.46 | emte | was more a comment on koens reply to the initial problem |
| 18:55.48 | nusse | at least hold seems to work:) |
| 18:56.06 | reenoo | emte: well, he should have known that upgrading binutils is looking for trouble |
| 19:02.54 | nusse | where can i get opiestumbler? |
| 19:25.29 | nusse | why did i ever killed my working installation |
| 19:25.45 | nusse | now i cant turn off wavelan and usbnet freezes sometimes |
| 19:29.43 | nusse | oh im going mad, it freezes after resumed |
| 19:30.51 | r00t-Ed | on what you are running that? |
| 19:31.26 | r00t-Ed | .8.3 seems fine on this old h3670 |
| 19:31.38 | nusse | i worked fine for me too |
| 19:32.18 | nusse | h5450 |
| 19:32.29 | r00t-Ed | what did you do to break it ? |
| 19:32.48 | r00t-Ed | so i don't do the same :-) |
| 19:32.52 | nusse | new install |
| 19:32.55 | r00t-Ed | oh |
| 19:37.37 | emte | hmm this is probably a question for gpe but, |
| 19:38.08 | emte | where are the sources that contain the task-network windows? |
| 19:39.39 | emte | i would like to add the stuff to fix(or extend) the wifi selections to support specific G issues, namely the MAC address problem |
| 19:40.17 | r00t-Ed | adding wpa to that would be cool |
| 19:40.41 | emte | taht is double edged |
| 19:40.42 | r00t-Ed | wpa_* tools work fine |
| 19:41.04 | r00t-Ed | ok |
| 19:41.21 | emte | the G issue is the fact that G series cards dont "hold" thier MAC |
| 19:41.45 | emte | this may be specific to only cisco/linksys tho |
| 19:42.07 | emte | so you have to assign the MAC to your card before you can use it |
| 19:42.13 | r00t-Ed | oh, i didn't know that |
| 19:42.37 | emte | as for wpa_supplicant |
| 19:42.59 | r00t-Ed | i use that, works great |
| 19:43.00 | emte | until gnutls stableizes it requires openssl which violates familiar's license |
| 19:43.56 | r00t-Ed | i see |
| 19:44.23 | emte | so you can personally compile and install it, but familiar cannot ship with it |
| 19:44.57 | emte | ouch ... 3k revs |
| 19:45.23 | r00t-Ed | wpa_supplier came with the root fs |
| 19:45.56 | emte | you have wpa_supplicant_nossl |
| 19:46.05 | emte | by default |
| 19:46.12 | r00t-Ed | i see |
| 19:46.20 | emte | unless that has recently been changed |
| 19:46.42 | emte | which is fine for networks which dont require a auth |
| 19:47.05 | emte | well anything beyond basic authentication |
| 19:51.01 | nusse | can i install a rootfs using ssh? |
| 19:52.07 | emte | maybe someone else does |
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| 19:54.34 | nusse | i dont want to upload the image thru serial line but over ssh as its much faster |
| 19:55.04 | emte | no you cant currently |
| 19:55.10 | r00t-Ed | the question i had yesterday was, if you could install it in to compactflash |
| 19:55.23 | emte | the bootloader does not have tcp networking much less ssh support |
| 19:55.39 | emte | yes CF is supported on some devices |
| 19:55.54 | r00t-Ed | i know i have it |
| 19:55.55 | nusse | i thought about about cat rootfs.tar|ssh ipaq "tar xf -" |
| 19:56.28 | nusse | or cat rootfs.jjfs|ssh ipaq "cat >/dev/md0" |
| 19:56.38 | emte | someone would have to write a tcp stack for the bootloader |
| 19:56.48 | r00t-Ed | why not serial? it took me about 20 minutes |
| 19:57.06 | emte | i have to write one for the PIC next quarter... maybe i can port that one into the bootloader |
| 19:57.23 | nusse | no, i have linux running with ssh |
| 19:57.29 | emte | but you still have the issue of what network device do you support |
| 19:57.53 | r00t-Ed | oh are you in to pic microcontrollers? |
| 19:57.54 | nusse | of course i have, i do not expect the bootloader to speak tcp and ssh |
| 19:58.19 | emte | r00t-Ed, we mainly use PIC micros and Altera FPGAs for class |
| 19:58.27 | r00t-Ed | i see |
| 19:58.42 | emte | nusse, the bootloader has to if you expect it to accept the data |
| 19:59.26 | emte | there is one otehr option ... |
| 19:59.32 | r00t-Ed | i was thinking about that, like reading the bootloader page i saw that it can boot from nfsroot |
| 20:00.13 | r00t-Ed | then i was thinking, that was cool, but after a few minutes, i was like dude, wtf.. |
| 20:00.16 | emte | the bootloader "could" be increade to accept 115 buad rate |
| 20:00.21 | emte | increased* |
| 20:00.30 | r00t-Ed | i thought that was the default |
| 20:00.54 | emte | i dont think ymodem can do that by default |
| 20:01.03 | emte | good chance i am wrong tho |
| 20:01.27 | nusse | emte: i want to write the image from linux! |
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| 20:01.55 | r00t-Ed | nusse, you could download it to the device even with wget |
| 20:01.57 | emte | nusse, thats nice, but you will have to use serial or usb |
| 20:02.18 | nusse | usb is ok |
| 20:02.25 | emte | the bootloader doesnt know how to talk to any other protocols |
| 20:02.30 | nusse | but already to late, i startet flashing |
| 20:02.38 | nusse | emte: im *NOT* talking about the bootloader |
| 20:03.14 | emte | so you want to copy an image onto an already programmed device? |
| 20:03.20 | nusse | yes |
| 20:03.53 | emte | which device do you have? |
| 20:03.54 | nusse | programmed, wtf. im running linux on it, if this means programmed |
| 20:03.57 | nusse | h5450 |
| 20:04.20 | emte | well there is enough ram to push the os into it ... |
| 20:04.53 | r00t-Ed | put it on a sd card or cf card?' |
| 20:05.11 | nusse | i have only cf and the ipaq eats only sd:) |
| 20:05.27 | emte | ipaqs use cf just fine |
| 20:05.29 | nusse | already started flashing thru bootloader, gonna waste one time more 30 mins |
| 20:05.47 | nusse | where should i put the cf in? |
| 20:05.55 | nusse | it doesnt fit into the sd slot |
| 20:06.04 | r00t-Ed | read the faq to kill time |
| 20:06.17 | emte | but you "could" setup a series of scripts to load a basic "recovery type" linux into ram and do it taht way ... |
| 20:06.40 | emte | nusse, sounds liek you need an sd->cf addapter |
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| 20:06.49 | emte | hrm .. |
| 20:06.51 | r00t-Ed | or just a sd |
| 20:06.58 | nusse | ive read the whole wiki and all of its chaos and all of its conflicting advices |
| 20:07.01 | r00t-Ed | those are cheap |
| 20:07.13 | nusse | r00t-Ed: i usually dont need it |
| 20:07.20 | emte | yes the wiki is very convoluted |
| 20:07.26 | r00t-Ed | you need it for your ipaq |
| 20:07.29 | emte | in some cases |
| 20:07.37 | nusse | 512mb/25euro in a local supermarket, perhaps im gonna get one |
| 20:07.49 | r00t-Ed | i would like to install to the CF |
| 20:07.59 | nusse | r00t-Ed: what to put onto? |
| 20:08.09 | r00t-Ed | cause i only have like 250k free on my / |
| 20:08.27 | emte | r00t-Ed, i know how you feel |
| 20:08.27 | nusse | hehe |
| 20:08.37 | nusse | whats you device? |
| 20:09.10 | r00t-Ed | h3670 |
| 20:09.13 | emte | h3760 |
| 20:09.15 | nusse | and yes, ipkgfind is broken |
| 20:09.51 | r00t-Ed | with the 1 pcmcia sleeve |
| 20:10.28 | nusse | no wifi, no bluetooth? |
| 20:10.58 | r00t-Ed | i have that cf wifi+128m card sandisk connect plus |
| 20:11.15 | nusse | i see |
| 20:11.17 | r00t-Ed | no bluetooth, this thing is old |
| 20:11.23 | emte | nusse, is it broken or misconfigured? |
| 20:11.23 | nusse | what do you use it for? |
| 20:11.26 | r00t-Ed | like 7 years old? |
| 20:11.33 | nusse | emte: overloaded |
| 20:11.45 | nusse | emte: php complains about to many db connections |
| 20:11.48 | emte | ah yeah i can see how taht would happen |
| 20:12.03 | r00t-Ed | i use it for war walking i think it would be call ? |
| 20:12.18 | emte | lol |
| 20:12.22 | nusse | what scanner do you use? |
| 20:12.39 | emte | prismstumbler i would guess |
| 20:12.45 | r00t-Ed | up until i put linux on that, mini stumbler |
| 20:13.05 | nusse | i see |
| 20:13.11 | emte | if your interested i do have a valid airsnort bb |
| 20:13.17 | r00t-Ed | now that i have linux, i use the pda for paper weight |
| 20:13.28 | nusse | lol |
| 20:13.34 | r00t-Ed | cause i only have like 250k free on / |
| 20:13.42 | nusse | ive never used windows |
| 20:13.47 | r00t-Ed | i was hopping to install kirmet |
| 20:14.01 | nusse | kismet did not work with my atmel:( |
| 20:14.04 | emte | not sure you can in gpe |
| 20:14.11 | nusse | wellenreiter never finds any networks |
| 20:14.13 | r00t-Ed | or whatever thats called, but i might have to take out the xwindow |
| 20:14.14 | emte | lol |
| 20:14.20 | nusse | and i could not find opiestumbler |
| 20:15.21 | r00t-Ed | it would be awesome if i could use the combo card, right now i can only use one function at a time |
| 20:15.32 | r00t-Ed | is either compact flash or wifi card |
| 20:15.39 | r00t-Ed | not both |
| 20:16.17 | r00t-Ed | something not liking the card in hostap_cs |
| 20:16.33 | nusse | i hate those extension thingies, i have usb bt and pccard wifi on my laptop, i would love to have it built-in |
| 20:17.48 | r00t-Ed | yeah i have the same problem, i would like to find a minipci that does both wifi and bt |
| 20:18.03 | nusse | antenna problems |
| 20:18.12 | r00t-Ed | actually i found one |
| 20:18.22 | nusse | and those damn thinkpads need even bios hacks to accept any minipci cards |
| 20:20.17 | r00t-Ed | yeah it sucks when manufacturers cripple hardware to make more money |
| 20:20.37 | emte | r00t-Ed, that is a backwards staement |
| 20:20.51 | emte | it impiles that it was normal hardware to begin with |
| 20:20.58 | emte | implies* |
| 20:21.30 | r00t-Ed | if it takes a minipci, why not let you install any minipci |
| 20:21.54 | emte | because that would mean it would have to know how to talk to it |
| 20:22.10 | nusse | wtf, why? |
| 20:22.14 | reenoo | well. the problem is that apparently the card and the _antenna_ have to be certified to make the FCC happy |
| 20:22.33 | emte | its like talking to someone in another language |
| 20:22.42 | r00t-Ed | well, miniPCI has to follow pcisig specifications |
| 20:23.20 | r00t-Ed | the wifi + bt card i found only works in MSI laptops |
| 20:23.23 | emte | has is a loose term |
| 20:23.44 | emte | its reccomended that they adhear to it |
| 20:23.51 | r00t-Ed | ok |
| 20:23.55 | reenoo | r00t-Ed: radio hardware has to comply with FCC standards or whatever your local equivalent authority is |
| 20:24.24 | nusse | who cares about that |
| 20:24.31 | reenoo | IBM |
| 20:24.37 | r00t-Ed | well i heard that they only take certain pcidev id's type of cards |
| 20:24.38 | nusse | make some standard antennas |
| 20:24.53 | nusse | the joke is, there are even preconfigured things |
| 20:24.59 | nusse | reenoo: lenevo:) |
| 20:25.05 | emte | nusse, everyone who doesnt want a lawsuit saying they gave somoen cancer |
| 20:25.25 | nusse | there are a lot of lenevo advertises here, showing a thinkpad with "access ibm" button:) |
| 20:25.31 | r00t-Ed | i thought the problem was mainly the frequency spectrum |
| 20:25.41 | nusse | emte: yeah, thats us crap, who cares |
| 20:25.54 | emte | thats not only a US problem |
| 20:26.01 | r00t-Ed | like in some weird country they use 2.4ghz for cops or something |
| 20:26.09 | emte | thats every country taht has standards set |
| 20:27.15 | emte | but r00t-Ed is also correct there are "restricted" frequencies |
| 20:27.27 | emte | used by EMS and Military |
| 20:27.34 | nusse | bla, i can put any antenna on pci cards |
| 20:27.57 | emte | but they will not all perform the same |
| 20:28.25 | nusse | yep, but no law problems |
| 20:28.45 | emte | depends if tehy amplify signals or any extra special filtering |
| 20:30.23 | r00t-Ed | yeah if you build your own amplifayer and it has like 1000 of harmonics, you will be interfering with other devices, that is the main reason they limit the power and the frequencies you can use |
| 20:31.03 | r00t-Ed | not because they want to screw with you and what they want to let you do |
| 20:36.01 | nusse | are there any problems with booting with console=ttyS0? |
| 20:36.17 | nusse | i believe it prevents me from resuming some times |
| 20:36.28 | r00t-Ed | type show |
| 20:36.42 | r00t-Ed | i think it is one of the default parameters |
| 20:37.00 | nusse | its linuxargs, i know how to set it |
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| 20:49.01 | nusse | gna, it freezes with 0.8.2 too |
| 20:49.33 | r00t-Ed | maybe is hardware problem ? |
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| 20:53.41 | MrFluffy | hi, i have a bit of a problem with 128bit wep and familiar using prism based cards.. |
| 20:54.01 | MrFluffy | would this be needing me to go over to wlan-ng to cure the wep issues? |
| 20:54.11 | MrFluffy | Im trying out the 8.3 snapshot... |
| 20:55.53 | MrFluffy | and the hardware is a 3870 ipaq, i always forget to put enough info in at first sorry |
| 20:59.05 | emte | MrFluffy, no |
| 20:59.35 | emte | you need to somehow get a version of wpa_suplicant that has ssl support |
| 21:00.03 | MrFluffy | ah, I thought wpa_suplicant was for wpa. |
| 21:00.12 | nusse | r00t-Ed: well, it worked so well until upgrade |
| 21:00.15 | emte | familair ships a crippled wpa_supplicant that has it disabled for licensing reasons |
| 21:01.09 | nusse | can i perform a real hardreset? perhaps a bootloadersettingsproblem? |
| 21:01.45 | MrFluffy | ah hence there is no wlan-ng packages in the 8.3 feed |
| 21:01.49 | emte | MrFluffy, unless i am mistaken wep uses the crypto in wpa |
| 21:02.13 | emte | yeah openssl violates licensing |
| 21:02.18 | MrFluffy | i dont have wpa supplicant running now on my laptop and that is using wep, hnce the confusion |
| 21:02.49 | r00t-Ed | yeah i think the network tool in gpe lets you set the wep |
| 21:02.54 | r00t-Ed | what is your problem? |
| 21:03.15 | emte | he is trying/wanting to use 128bit wep |
| 21:03.19 | MrFluffy | it wont sign on at all, it gets a link but no ip returned by dhcp etc |
| 21:03.30 | MrFluffy | im forced to 128bit wep because its not my network |
| 21:03.36 | emte | MrFluffy, yeah that is my issue at school as well |
| 21:03.39 | MrFluffy | You think Id buy aol for myself :) |
| 21:03.44 | r00t-Ed | emte, does it only support 64 bits? |
| 21:03.51 | MrFluffy | it comes with the room i rent |
| 21:04.20 | emte | i dont know if it supports anything beyond basic |
| 21:04.48 | emte | aka "wireless cafe" type settings |
| 21:05.18 | MrFluffy | there is some threads that the package doesnt support 128bit, but wireless-ng does |
| 21:05.20 | r00t-Ed | so the wep configuration is just a gui place holder? |
| 21:06.14 | r00t-Ed | it has a place to put 5 keys |
| 21:07.11 | r00t-Ed | which card is it? MrFluffy |
| 21:07.25 | MrFluffy | choice of, dlink dwl-650 cf |
| 21:07.27 | MrFluffy | or a linksys |
| 21:07.36 | MrFluffy | dcf650w dlink |
| 21:07.45 | emte | r00t-Ed, well gpe is used on otehr distros |
| 21:07.47 | MrFluffy | theyre both prism's |
| 21:07.53 | emte | with differeent licnesing |
| 21:08.19 | emte | and you "can" install it personally |
| 21:08.29 | r00t-Ed | http://gpe.handhelds.org/documentation/wireless.shtml |
| 21:08.30 | emte | familair just cant ship it |
| 21:08.50 | MrFluffy | I was always under the impression wpa-supplicant was to handle the key exchange for wpa |
| 21:08.55 | MrFluffy | nothing to do with wep.. |
| 21:09.49 | MrFluffy | I did it via the gui r00t-Ed , and tried hand editing the config files too |
| 21:10.08 | MrFluffy | Ive tried just taking a static, in case it was a dhcp issue, but it doesnt seem to bind properly |
| 21:10.42 | r00t-Ed | oh ok, maybe the ap is also doing mac filtering ? |
| 21:10.59 | MrFluffy | i have the mac addy of both cards in the ap already |
| 21:11.31 | MrFluffy | if we drop wep for the test, it works, but its not a option for anything but a quick test |
| 21:11.41 | r00t-Ed | ok |
| 21:11.59 | MrFluffy | and cant go to wpa or the like since landlords psp only understands wep |
| 21:12.37 | r00t-Ed | punk, if you get an ap that does wap and hook it to the same router in different channel ? |
| 21:12.40 | r00t-Ed | lol, |
| 21:13.24 | nusse | when i plugin usb, it freezes, when i plug and replug it, it unfreezes for several seconds |
| 21:14.22 | r00t-Ed | maybe is loading and unloading modules nusse? |
| 21:15.03 | MrFluffy | r00t-Ed, does debian/familiar need a 0x to denote a hex key like fedora/redhat? |
| 21:16.12 | emte | nusse, that is a reoccuring issue with usb |
| 21:16.33 | emte | a couple attempts have been made to try and fix it |
| 21:16.36 | r00t-Ed | MrFluffy, im not sure, i am just a n00b on this too |
| 21:19.06 | r00t-Ed | check this post out: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/familiar/118/11833.html |
| 21:20.44 | nusse | emte: never had that before |
| 21:20.58 | nusse | i hope sleep 5 in pre-up scripts fixes it |
| 21:21.03 | emte | i've always had it on the h36 |
| 21:22.57 | nusse | just everything was working |
| 21:23.18 | nusse | the only bad thing was, first boot always failed and wifi was up after every resume, but it was ok |
| 21:23.21 | r00t-Ed | how much free room you have in / ? |
| 21:23.43 | MrFluffy | r00t-Ed, checking it out now... |
| 21:25.03 | r00t-Ed | df -h |
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| 21:35.01 | MrFluffy | r00t-Ed, now i get some message as it loads the orinioco firmware about supporting 104 bit keys |
| 21:35.14 | r00t-Ed | yeah i think is right |
| 21:35.23 | r00t-Ed | wep 128 is really 104 |
| 21:35.30 | r00t-Ed | and 64 is 40 |
| 21:35.32 | MrFluffy | ah! |
| 21:35.37 | r00t-Ed | don't ask why |
| 21:35.52 | MrFluffy | is the rest of the bits packing for the protocol or something... |
| 21:36.31 | r00t-Ed | i said dont ask why :-P |
| 21:36.58 | r00t-Ed | it could be, i dont know' |
| 22:02.35 | MrFluffy | r00t-Ed, no change it seems, ill keep playing with it, do some digging with iwconfig |
| 22:03.09 | r00t-Ed | well that sucks |
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| 22:03.15 | paniq | i have a foldable keyboard for my ipaq |
| 22:03.17 | paniq | but i forgot the pin |
| 22:03.23 | paniq | any chance i can find out what it is? |
| 22:04.53 | r00t-Ed | MrFluffy i am new to familiar too, you should try what emte said, he seems to be part of the dev group, or ask again later? maybe post your conf files in pastebin.com so others can see? |
| 22:05.20 | r00t-Ed | what pin? |
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| 22:14.34 | paniq | the pin to access the keyboard |
| 22:21.01 | r00t-Ed | maybe in the manufacturer's website? |
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| 22:26.53 | r00t-Ed | ok, i'll go |
| 22:47.43 | l1nux | any GPE image with kernel26 for testing ? |
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