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| 12:39.23 | jrs | hello anyone here |
| 12:54.09 | nusse | <anyone> hello jrs |
| 12:56.32 | jrs | hi there |
| 12:57.09 | jrs | do u know if there is a familiar dist. for the Bluangle without GPE or Opie allready included? |
| 13:02.49 | nusse | this is called bootstrap |
| 13:05.31 | jrs | nusse: i know, but i havent found it for the Blueangle |
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| 16:19.48 | jsun | reenoo|afk, around? |
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| 16:35.37 | Cockroach- | Hmm |
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| 16:53.02 | reenoo | jsun: a bit |
| 16:53.37 | treccina4ever | cè qualche italiano? |
| 16:57.41 | treccina4ever | Avrei bisogno di aiuto con opie ed un palmare ipaq5555 |
| 16:58.05 | treccina4ever | qualcuno può aiutarmi per favore? |
| 16:58.33 | Flixi | Can you please ask again in english, I belive you have a bigger chance to get an answer then |
| 17:00.39 | treccina4ever | I would have need of aid with opie and to palmare ipaq 5555 |
| 17:01.44 | Flixi | what is your problem? |
| 17:05.30 | treccina4ever | In short I do not succeed to install the programs on the sd I obtain always the same error Error linkling'/media/card/treccina/etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K15appWeb'to'//etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K15appWeb' many equal lines and some applications work and others not |
| 17:06.54 | treccina4ever | I am making the translation with google I hope that it is understood. |
| 17:10.20 | Flixi | Do you use the ipk packages or are you compiling your programs your self? |
| 17:11.54 | treccina4ever | use ipkg, between the other the battery is consumed however once extinguished like never? |
| 17:13.09 | Flixi | I didn't understand the last part something about your battery? |
| 17:13.42 | Flixi | If you are using the package manager I belive it should just work.. I can't help you more then that. . |
| 17:16.05 | treccina4ever | practically when I extinguish palmare the continuous battery to be consumed, practically I have I relight it and is discharge |
| 17:19.28 | Flixi | I got some h5500 my self all running opie, and I have not experienced that they do that.. |
| 17:25.31 | nusse | palmare, hehe |
| 17:26.12 | treccina4ever | cosa vuol dire <nusse>? |
| 17:26.42 | nusse | i dont speak italien |
| 17:26.53 | nusse | what filesystem do you have on your sdcard? |
| 17:28.54 | nusse | you need a filesystem that supports symlinks, vfat does not, ext2 for example does |
| 17:30.12 | jsun | reenoo, never mind - I was going to ask you about the URL again of your tarball you gave to me. |
| 17:30.39 | jsun | reenoo, btw, I have successfully built gpe-image with your tarball, after fixing xstroke problem. |
| 17:31.01 | jsun | I am trying to test the image right now. |
| 17:31.13 | jsun | I have ipaq 5550. |
| 17:31.23 | jsun | the flash install is not working somehow ... |
| 17:31.46 | jsun | Could not find file.vfat_file_open: file not found errno=00000016 |
| 17:31.46 | jsun | Could not open source hda1:h3900-gpe-082.jffs2 |
| 17:31.48 | nusse | 'not working' is not a problem description |
| 17:31.59 | jsun | I know. :) |
| 17:32.12 | jsun | the above was the error message. :) |
| 17:32.44 | jsun | here is a more complete output: |
| 17:32.47 | jsun | cmd vfat mount: partid=00000000 |
| 17:32.47 | jsun | ptable signature=0000AA55 |
| 17:32.47 | jsun | vfat mount: reading bpb_info |
| 17:32.47 | jsun | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.47 | jsun | vfat_find_file_entry: fname='h3900-gpe-082.jffs2' |
| 17:32.48 | jsun | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.50 | jsun | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.52 | jsun | Could not find file.vfat_file_open: file not found errno=00000016 |
| 17:32.54 | jsun | Could not open source hda1:h3900-gpe-082.jffs2 |
| 17:33.10 | jsun | The funny thing is that the instruction says I have to insert into the first slot. |
| 17:33.15 | jsun | what is the first slot? |
| 17:33.25 | jsun | the one closer to the ipaq? |
| 17:33.28 | nusse | that one before second |
| 17:33.35 | nusse | do you have two slots? |
| 17:33.35 | jsun | or the one farther away from ipaq? |
| 17:33.37 | jsun | yes. |
| 17:33.42 | nusse | try the other;) |
| 17:33.45 | jsun | I tried both, obviously. |
| 17:33.49 | nusse | humn, my 5450 has only one |
| 17:34.03 | nusse | btw, do you know what kind of slot behind the battery is? |
| 17:34.18 | jsun | only the one farther away seems to detect card anyway. |
| 17:34.24 | jsun | dunno. |
| 17:34.50 | jsun | in any case, even with the "second" slot it still complains about not finding the file. |
| 17:35.06 | nusse | cant help you, ive always installed over ymodem upload |
| 17:35.07 | jsun | my partition is W95 FAT, according to fdisk. |
| 17:35.16 | nusse | can you see the file thru ls? |
| 17:35.20 | nusse | is there an vfat ls? |
| 17:35.20 | jsun | nusse, ymodem works for me too. |
| 17:35.27 | jsun | is |
| 17:35.30 | jsun | yes. :) |
| 17:35.38 | jsun | should I use vfat ls hda1? |
| 17:35.47 | jsun | what is the right syntax. |
| 17:35.52 | nusse | i have no idea |
| 17:35.54 | nusse | help vfat? |
| 17:35.55 | jsun | I tried some and got nothing really interesting. |
| 17:36.18 | jsun | vfat ls [dir] -- lists directory contents on mounted vfat system |
| 17:36.28 | jsun | I guess I need to do vfat mount first? |
| 17:36.36 | jsun | I did it once and got the system hang. |
| 17:36.42 | jsun | let me try again |
| 17:36.49 | jsun | I am going to try |
| 17:36.54 | jsun | vfat mount hda1 /mnt/cf |
| 17:37.02 | jsun | if you see something dangerous here, let me know. |
| 17:37.05 | jsun | :) |
| 17:37.46 | jsun | interesting. |
| 17:37.55 | jsun | here is the output (not hang at least): |
| 17:37.59 | jsun | boot> vfat mount hda1 /mnt/cf |
| 17:37.59 | jsun | cmd vfat mount: partid=00000000 |
| 17:37.59 | jsun | vfat mount: reading bpb_info |
| 17:37.59 | jsun | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.59 | jsun | cmd vfat mount: listing the root directory |
| 17:38.01 | jsun | boot> ls /mnt/cf |
| 17:38.03 | jsun | Scanning all of flash for your JFFS2 convenience. Est Time: 6-12 seconds! |
| 17:38.05 | jsun | build_list: max = 01FBFFBC |
| 17:38.07 | jsun | . |
| 17:38.09 | jsun | dir entries = 0000061E |
| 17:38.14 | jsun | frag entries = 0000123B |
| 17:38.14 | jsun | +4 increments = 00000000 |
| 17:38.15 | jsun | +file_offset increments = 0000191D |
| 17:38.38 | jsun | it looks like the filesystem type might be wrong. |
| 17:38.43 | jsun | anybody knows? |
| 17:39.16 | reenoo | make sure it's fat12 or fat16 |
| 17:39.39 | jsun | neither - it is something called w95 FAT. |
| 17:40.07 | reenoo | sounds like fat32 which bootldr doesn't understand IIRC |
| 17:40.28 | jsun | yes, it is fat32 |
| 17:40.37 | jsun | actually "w95 fat32" to be exact. |
| 17:40.46 | reenoo | that's wrong then |
| 17:42.50 | jsun | should I use mkfs.vfat or mkfs.dos? |
| 17:43.28 | reenoo | dos would be on the safe side I guess |
| 17:44.24 | nusse | hu? |
| 17:44.40 | nusse | w95 sounds like partition description, not filesystem |
| 17:45.19 | jsun | nusse, right. |
| 17:48.09 | jsun | cool - now it works. |
| 17:48.17 | jsun | I used mkfs.vfat, |
| 17:48.31 | jsun | as I figured I am using long file names like ....jffs2. |
| 17:48.52 | jsun | the partition type is now 0x6 (FAT16) |
| 17:49.31 | jsun | instead of 0xb (W95 FAT32) |
| 17:49.59 | nusse | i dont think the partition type matters |
| 17:50.03 | nusse | at least it shouldnt |
| 17:51.03 | jsun | the first time I used XP to make the filesystem, that might be problem? |
| 17:51.32 | nusse | sure;) |
| 17:51.36 | jsun | "the first time" = "partition type is w95 fat32" |
| 17:51.49 | reenoo | nusse: the partition type is how windows identifies the filesystem. if it's fat32 it will be formatted that way too. |
| 17:51.59 | nusse | reenoo: muah |
| 17:52.09 | nusse | what if i have no partitions at all? |
| 17:52.39 | nusse | btw, i was *really* surprised, went to buy a sdcard, put it in and it was mounted automatically |
| 17:53.19 | jsun | nusse, sounds like it *should* have a partition already. |
| 17:53.37 | nusse | jsun: sure |
| 17:53.42 | jsun | most commercial cards have one paritition and is usually some kind of vfat type. |
| 17:53.47 | nusse | i just couldnt believe it worked out of the box |
| 17:54.02 | jsun | why? all cards I bought are that way. ? |
| 17:54.20 | jsun | oh? You mean SD card. |
| 17:54.25 | nusse | im not that plugnplay guy |
| 17:54.28 | jsun | I see. |
| 17:54.32 | jsun | for linux? |
| 17:54.35 | jsun | or windows? |
| 17:54.50 | jsun | for windows, it should work. |
| 17:54.59 | jsun | for linux I don't think it words, nowadays. |
| 17:55.09 | jsun | "work out of box" that is. |
| 17:55.52 | reenoo | nusse: apart from issues with the h3900 sd hardware/driver that should work on all devices supported by familiar (which have an sd slot obviously) |
| 17:56.22 | nusse | reenoo: well, im using h3900 driver i think:) |
| 17:56.31 | nusse | i can write with about 22kb/s on the sdcard |
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| 17:57.38 | nusse | perhaps someone can provide a new kernel, what i have heard the problems are fixed in the latest version |
| 18:00.47 | jsun | horay! GPE boots up! |
| 18:02.11 | jsun | .. although the boot up seems to take a while. :) |
| 18:02.40 | nusse | congrats |
| 18:02.49 | jsun | thanks to reenoo, really. :) |
| 18:03.15 | jsun | reenoo, you should post your tarball on the website instead of the old outdated tarball. |
| 18:03.15 | nusse | i you had read the faq, you would have done it on your own:) |
| 18:03.40 | nusse | its not outdated, thats retro style, thats 'in' |
| 18:03.41 | jsun | well, I got hiccupped at getting the source. :) |
| 18:04.28 | jsun | I don't think so - I remembered that one has some serious issues. |
| 18:04.29 | reenoo | jsun: well.. a new rc release is imminent, which will include a bitbake and oe snapshot |
| 18:04.43 | jsun | sounds great! |
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| 18:39.22 | jsun | when GPE first time starts up, is there a way *not* creating a normal user? |
| 18:39.35 | jsun | I just wanna be root all the time, I suppose. |
| 18:41.04 | nusse | no, you dont want to |
| 18:41.10 | nusse | this is a problem of opie |
| 18:41.34 | jsun | ok, if you say so. :) |
| 18:41.46 | nusse | you fuck up everything as root |
| 18:42.07 | nusse | if you really want to work as root you can login as root |
| 18:42.25 | nusse | its unix, nobody cares if you add hundreds of user and still work as root |
| 18:58.01 | treccina4ever | Excused I have had abbandonarvi. are here of new |
| 19:00.01 | treccina4ever | excuse nusse to before you have asked me which was the rows system of the sd? creed fat32 |
| 19:12.18 | treccina4ever | Perhaps I have understood, I am making a test! |
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| 20:19.19 | treccina4ever | I do not succeed in formattare the card, the filesystem ext3 is not between the options |
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