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01:51.22TheX1leany one here tonight?
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08:26.41laludelalahallo!
08:26.50x29ahi there
08:27.05laludelalawhat does it mean, when "dmesg" gives a "mcp: write timed out"?
08:27.32laludelala(Familiar 0.8.2 with OPIE on a Siemens SimPad SL4)
08:27.45laludelalawhat is "mcp"?
08:31.50x29amaybe this one helps you http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/22/2260.html
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08:56.53laludelalax29a, no, it did not ..   seems like if openie-record tries to write to a memory-range it should not write to ...
08:58.12laludelalax29a, anyway, I am not uploading the familiar-gpe 0.84 image (although it is still beta) ...
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10:44.46laludelalahallo again!
10:46.15laludelalaIt is a known issue, but I did not find a solution in the various fora ...    I have Familiar.OPIE running on my Simpad SL4, and it makes strange noise when I touch the panel.
10:46.22laludelalaAnyone knows what to do?
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13:04.31laludelalahallo!
13:05.01laludelalaThe touchpad is making strange noise on my Simpad ...    
13:05.04laludelalaany hint?
13:32.06laludelalaWell, another try ...
13:32.32laludelalaIs there a way to change the communication-rate with the touchpanel?
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13:37.37eckharthi
13:38.25laludelalahi
13:39.00eckhartthat channel is about familiar distro?
13:45.42laludelalaI think so, but it seems like if at that time no one is listening
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16:41.35evanchsaWhere do I find the familiar OE distro stuff?
16:46.22emte?
16:46.28emtein respect to?
16:46.44emtebuilding things?
16:46.50emtehttp://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted
16:47.18laludelalais there some option I can give to the ubc1x00 module?
16:49.08laludelalaMy Simpad makes 1Hz noise in idle mode, and when using the touchscreen (making some pressur eon it), it is a lot mor enoise
16:49.11laludelalaany hint?
16:53.18reenoolaludelala: you'd need someone with simpad experience for that... try asking zecke in #handhelds.org
16:53.29laludelalareenoo, thx
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20:19.29DanielSHaischthi
20:35.52DanielSHaischtthere seems to be an issue with the familiar bootldr. every time I shut the iPAQ off, it powers on again after a couple of minutes.
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21:35.29TheX1lewhat bootldr are you using?
21:35.43TheX1lei have latest one running on h5455 and it runs fine
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21:47.00zx8hey guys , i want to install familiar linux on my jornada 728 , i am running ubuntu linux on my desktop machine.
21:47.54TheX1lecool
21:49.40DanielSHaischtTheX1le: it was the bootldr that u get if downloading 0.8.2 from http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/install/download.html
21:49.58DanielSHaischtI am not sure whether it was stable or testing. have to check that
21:50.18TheX1lelet me check what one im running
21:53.02TheX1leim running 2.21.12
21:53.13TheX1lethe suspend and reboot features work fine
21:54.14DanielSHaischtcan the bootloader be downloaded as a seperate file?
21:54.30TheX1leyeah
21:54.34TheX1lei got mine as a rar file
21:55.06TheX1lebut i think the one i have is just for my particular ipaq
21:55.13TheX1lewouldnt run on your model
21:56.56DanielSHaischtfrom where did u download that bootloader. I have an additional issue that I cant connect to the device via minicom.
21:57.10DanielSHaischtI guess there something wrong with the bootloader
21:58.21TheX1lemine came from the bootopie-h3900.tar file
21:59.54DanielSHaischti did download gpe...
22:00.24TheX1lehmm
22:00.40TheX1lei ran both gpe and opie on mine
22:00.46TheX1lei found opie worked much better on my device
22:00.49TheX1legive it a try
22:01.18DanielSHaischtI am using the same bootloader version btw
22:01.50TheX1lewhat model device do you have?
22:02.01DanielSHaischtiPAQ H5500
22:02.33TheX1leso same device i have but with more ram 128 instead of 64
22:04.12TheX1lewhen you turn it off what do you mean by that?
22:04.14DanielSHaischtI have opie now for a long time on my zaurus
22:04.41TheX1leie hit the power button to suspend linux? or off off as in it will have to reboot the unit
22:05.21DanielSHaischtI di hit the power button to turn it off.
22:05.39DanielSHaischtbut I have to tell u that I only did install the bootloader and not linux
22:06.00DanielSHaischtI didn't install linux cuz I had the serial line issue.
22:06.01TheX1leah that might be it
22:06.19DanielSHaischtits still running window mobile
22:06.21TheX1lebut then again im a total linux noob so im not sure
22:06.23zx8how do i install to a jornada 720?
22:06.51TheX1lezx8 is there a familure image for it? or one that is close for that model?
22:08.17zx8where can i browse the images?
22:08.48TheX1lehttp://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.4-rc1/images/
22:08.55TheX1lethats for rc1 of 8.4
22:09.38zx8not that i can see
22:10.05TheX1leyou sir will have to talk to some one that knows more then i
22:10.15TheX1lefrance would be the one but he is not here
22:10.25TheX1leim still learning
22:10.35reenoo|afkthere were jornada images for 0.8.2
22:10.49TheX1leright now im trying to get my keyboard working for it but having issues with the package manager
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22:26.22DanielSHaischtTheX1le: whats the meaning of no flow control (from the faq). does that mean no hardware and no software flow control? or just no software flow control?
22:28.36reenoono flow control at all
22:29.14DanielSHaischthey kewl I got the boot prompt :)
22:30.35reenoovery good
22:31.49DanielSHaischtreenoo: I know I may sound like a bloody beginner. I switched from gpe 0.8.2-testing to opie 0.8.2-stable. maybe that solved the issue.
22:32.16reenoothere's no difference between testing and stable
22:32.45reenooi.e. both point to the same files
22:33.26DanielSHaischtor maybe my 1st download was corrupt. should have used the md5 sums :(
22:36.49reenoopossible. incorrect serial port settings or a problem with the cradle connector seem more likely though
22:37.46DanielSHaischtreenoo: are u prefering opie too ?
22:38.55reenooI use GPE myself
22:39.14reenoobest try both and stick with what you like better
22:40.44DanielSHaischtdo u know whether there are avahi packages for familiar/gpe/opie ?
22:49.24reenoonot at the moment I think. but I guess I could build some
22:49.48reenooif I ever get around to the next round of feed restructuring/rebuilding/cleanup
22:52.35DanielSHaischtone one hand it would realy make sense to have a zeroconf capable PDA. on the other hand if OPIE or GPE won't make use of it, it would not make any sense
22:55.39reenooit's not integrated with either GPE or OPIE yet
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23:41.53TheX1le_AFKreenoo are you there?
23:42.10reenoosorta
23:42.49TheX1leah i was having an issue i hoped you might point me in the right direction
23:43.00reenoojust ask
23:43.16TheX1lelet me state i cant spell worth crap so im sorry but im having an issue installing packages
23:44.20TheX1leim trying to istall a hp keyboard on an h5455
23:44.29TheX1lerunning rc1 of opie
23:44.51TheX1leim missing h3600_microkbd
23:45.17TheX1ledid a search for it
23:45.28TheX1leand downloaded the correct package that has it
23:45.37TheX1lebut when i use the package manager to try to install it i get
23:46.24TheX1lean error telling me it cant find package microkbd-modules
23:46.44TheX1leisnt that what im trying to install? i think that means that it cant find the module its atempting to install from
23:46.54reenoocould you pastebin the exact error?
23:47.07reenoo~pastebin
23:47.08iboti heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com
23:47.32TheX1leyeah hold on
23:47.37reenooI suspect you're trying to install a _h3600 package on a h3900 machine
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23:50.15TheX1leits possible
23:50.49reenoowell check the filename
23:51.57TheX1lemicrokbd-modules_2.4.19-rmk-pxa-1-hh30
23:52.02TheX1lethats the one im using
23:54.57TheX1lePackages to install:
23:54.58TheX1le/home/root/microkbd-modules_2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh30_ipaqsa.ipk
23:54.58TheX1lePress the start button to begin.
23:54.58TheX1leloading conf file /etc/ipkg.conf
23:54.58TheX1leloading conf file /etc/ipkg/arch.conf
23:54.58TheX1leloading conf file /etc/ipkg/familiar-v0.8.4-rc1-feeds.conf
23:55.00TheX1leloading conf file /etc/ipkg/familiar-v0.8.4-rc1-locale-feeds.conf
23:55.02TheX1leClearing state_want and state_flag for pkg=microkbd-modules (arch_priority=0 flag=16 want=2)
23:55.04TheX1leCannot find package microkbd-modules.
23:55.06TheX1leCheck the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update'
23:55.08TheX1leNothing to be done
23:55.10TheX1leAn error ocurred, return value: 4.
23:55.12TheX1lethats the output
23:56.11reenooyah, that's an old h3600 package. you can't use that on a h5400
23:56.40TheX1ledo u know perchance what one i need?
23:57.04reenoono, sorry :/
23:57.27DanielSHaischtreenoo: I am now chatting from my ipaq :)
23:57.48reenooDanielSHaischt: congrats!
23:58.18DanielSHaischt:)
23:59.54reenooTheX1le: I think the latest in keyboard handling is kbdd which does stuff in userspace for the most part

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