| 00:00.55 | matt_ | just tried an app called vol n it dosn't seem to work lol |
| 00:01.55 | bluelightning | it could be a kernel issue, in that the mixer devices might not be working |
| 00:02.07 | bluelightning | in which case no mixer app will work... but I hope that's not the case |
| 00:04.51 | matt_ | aumix works |
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| 00:05.20 | matt_ | i cant hear anything untill i set the volume at about 70% ish |
| 00:05.30 | matt_ | but it will still control it, oh and i'm using headphones atm |
| 00:07.49 | matt_ | looks like it takes command line options aswell which is good :) |
| 00:13.16 | bluelightning | cool :) |
| 00:13.28 | bluelightning | hopefully someone will be able to fix the opie volume applet soon |
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| 01:31.25 | matt_ | bluelightning you still there ? |
| 01:31.31 | SalsaDoom | Hi fellas. I'm about 99% sure my ipaq is damaged somehow. I cannot connect to it via serial. I've checked the settings a million times and they are ok, I've replaced by cradle (wasted money), still zero. Any ideas I could try? |
| 01:31.44 | SalsaDoom | er. my cradle. |
| 01:32.40 | matt_ | SalsaDoom you sure there is something listerning on the serial port of the device ? |
| 01:33.31 | SalsaDoom | matt_: Not 100%, but the bootloader would be listening always right? |
| 01:33.59 | SalsaDoom | like if I pressed the "joystick button" while holding reset it should take me to the bootloader and wait, and that should be reachable by serial AFAIK |
| 01:34.15 | matt_ | yea |
| 01:34.30 | matt_ | can you boot it up ? |
| 01:34.34 | matt_ | into familier ? |
| 01:34.39 | SalsaDoom | yeah works fine otherwise |
| 01:34.46 | SalsaDoom | it charges from the cradle without problem |
| 01:34.48 | matt_ | humm ok |
| 01:35.00 | matt_ | falilier also runs a getty on the serial port |
| 01:35.08 | matt_ | tried a different serial port |
| 01:35.22 | matt_ | on a differnt pc ? |
| 01:36.12 | SalsaDoom | I've tried using a usb-serial converter that I know worked previously. I've tried that converted on my pc and laptop, same thing |
| 01:36.27 | SalsaDoom | converter. Bad typing lately. ;\ |
| 01:37.04 | SalsaDoom | Its set to 115200 8N1 with no flow control of any kind, but its acting like the cable is just hanging loose |
| 01:37.31 | matt_ | humm |
| 01:37.45 | SalsaDoom | I think I'm boned ;( |
| 01:37.46 | matt_ | have you tried blowing in the serial port on the device ? |
| 01:37.52 | matt_ | might be some crap stuck in there |
| 01:37.58 | matt_ | blocking some pins |
| 01:38.01 | SalsaDoom | I'm desperate enough to try again, I have some compressed air ;P |
| 01:38.06 | SalsaDoom | they -look- ok... |
| 01:38.58 | emte | SalsaDoom, you sure your listening on the right port? |
| 01:39.03 | matt_ | and here i was worrying about my batter life and looking at 2800mAh batteries |
| 01:39.03 | matt_ | lol |
| 01:39.29 | SalsaDoom | emte: yeah, I've checked that. I'm absolutely on the right port |
| 01:39.43 | emte | you check it using another device? |
| 01:40.06 | emte | btw i take it your PC doesnt have a real serial port? |
| 01:40.13 | matt_ | have you got a gurantee ? |
| 01:40.21 | matt_ | oh wait, its prov void |
| 01:40.24 | matt_ | *prob |
| 01:40.33 | matt_ | and you cant reflash it with windows |
| 01:40.59 | SalsaDoom | emte: oh no, it does. my laptop doesn't so I have a serial converter, usually for working on ciscos, etc. I tried the converter to rule out my serial port not working. |
| 01:41.00 | emte | usb-serial converters are not exactly reliable devices |
| 01:41.09 | emte | ah |
| 01:41.31 | SalsaDoom | ha, well, there was a peice of fluff stuck in there |
| 01:41.39 | SalsaDoom | but removing it didn't change anything, its still dead as a door nail |
| 01:41.41 | matt_ | .. it works ? |
| 01:41.44 | matt_ | oh |
| 01:43.23 | SalsaDoom | all I can think of is somehow my serial pins on damaged, because I've tried everything. That serial port is working otherwise, it is correctly configured... I don't know ;\ |
| 01:43.44 | SalsaDoom | Its a H5555, and familiar is completely useless on it, but it was a cool/expensive toy anyway. |
| 01:44.04 | matt_ | i have a h5550 |
| 01:44.08 | matt_ | and its gr8 :) |
| 01:44.39 | SalsaDoom | liar ;P it runs out of batteries in a heartbeat, lots of stuff is buggy on it... it really sucks actually. |
| 01:44.44 | matt_ | i just got a sip agent on it, hook it up to a wireless network at college which has an asterisk box and a SPA3000 to connect to their pbx :D |
| 01:44.51 | matt_ | oh |
| 01:44.53 | SalsaDoom | But there was potential. |
| 01:45.01 | SalsaDoom | and well, it was cool. |
| 01:45.06 | matt_ | well yea the batter is a little annoying but everything else is fine |
| 01:45.14 | matt_ | i have a 2gb sd card in it |
| 01:45.22 | matt_ | that i use for installing stuff to mainly :) |
| 01:45.40 | SalsaDoom | Is it possible to install familiar via sdcard or anything? |
| 01:45.50 | SalsaDoom | Coz aside from the serial being broken its still fine |
| 01:45.56 | matt_ | root@h3900:~# |
| 01:46.00 | matt_ | oops |
| 01:46.07 | matt_ | . /dev/mmc/part1 1.9G 202.4M 1.7G 10% /media/card |
| 01:46.18 | matt_ | no |
| 01:46.19 | emte | SalsaDoom, i doubt your serial is actually broken |
| 01:46.22 | matt_ | well not that i know of |
| 01:46.33 | matt_ | the boot loader cant see the sd card so it cant boot from it |
| 01:46.41 | matt_ | you can boot from compact flash cards tho |
| 01:46.58 | SalsaDoom | emte: its odd, yes, but there really isn't any other possiblity. |
| 01:47.16 | matt_ | sell it on ebay and buy another one |
| 01:47.24 | matt_ | :) |
| 01:47.29 | emte | SalsaDoom, sure there is |
| 01:47.36 | SalsaDoom | emte: lets hear it ;) |
| 01:47.38 | emte | it was disabled in the image |
| 01:47.45 | SalsaDoom | in the bootloader even? |
| 01:48.00 | emte | its always a posibility |
| 01:48.20 | SalsaDoom | ok, lets assume that I disabled the serial in the bootloader somehow (?), how could I check for that? |
| 01:48.52 | emte | btw i thought the h5555 was only bootable using haret |
| 01:48.53 | matt_ | SalsaDoom boot into familier and try to connect to it |
| 01:48.53 | matt_ | familier runs a getty on the serial port |
| 01:48.53 | SalsaDoom | See, I -was- pissing around with a keyboard that was supposed to work over serial |
| 01:49.04 | SalsaDoom | matt_: of course I tried that ;) Nothing |
| 01:49.18 | emte | what do you mean by "pissing around" ? |
| 01:49.23 | SalsaDoom | hmm, I don't even know what haret is. I installed via serial |
| 01:49.51 | matt_ | i think you got the same as me a h5550 |
| 01:49.56 | matt_ | i didn't know there was a h5555 |
| 01:50.17 | SalsaDoom | fiddling with settings to get a serial keyboard working. I believe I set them back to the original way though, and I definatly didn't go near any bootloader settings |
| 01:50.37 | SalsaDoom | There is an H5555, which is basically identical to the other h5500 series. I don't even know whats different |
| 01:50.52 | matt_ | lol k |
| 01:52.04 | matt_ | http://static.flickr.com/28/66712435_6f23704727_m.jpg |
| 01:52.05 | matt_ | lol |
| 01:52.25 | SalsaDoom | This did all work at some point. Last thing I did was try and get this serial keyboard working -- which proved impossible since it just wasn't supported anymore, and I put the ipaq away until 0.8.4 was out. |
| 01:52.52 | SalsaDoom | When I took it out again to play with the latest version, serials dead. Makes me think the serial keyboard wrecked it somehow |
| 01:52.58 | emte | most of my keyboards still work ... |
| 01:53.37 | SalsaDoom | Yes well, this one didn't. But the keyboards gone now anyway and it doesn't really matter. |
| 01:54.05 | SalsaDoom | I'm far from convinced its possible to even make it so the bootloader doesn't listen on the serial from within familiar itself |
| 01:55.09 | matt_ | the bootloader dosn't listen from within familier |
| 01:55.14 | matt_ | the getty does |
| 01:55.21 | matt_ | which presents a login: |
| 01:55.22 | SalsaDoom | yes I know... |
| 01:55.24 | emte | out of curiosity, which OS does your PC run? |
| 01:55.38 | SalsaDoom | emte: debian linux |
| 01:55.52 | emte | well its not the MS SP2 then |
| 01:56.11 | matt_ | lol |
| 01:56.14 | matt_ | :D |
| 01:56.17 | emte | let me fire up minicom |
| 01:56.20 | SalsaDoom | nope ;P |
| 01:56.45 | SalsaDoom | See, I thought it was my cradle because I got junk output echoed back at me from my old one |
| 01:57.04 | emte | that is normal at the wrong baud |
| 01:57.11 | SalsaDoom | Now, I thought it was from the pda at first, but then I could remove the pda and still get junk echoed back, from nothing apparently. |
| 01:57.16 | SalsaDoom | Oh, but it wasn't at the wrong baud |
| 01:57.46 | SalsaDoom | It had -no- output at any other setting, and junk at the correct one -- even if the PDA wasn't even plugged into the cradle |
| 01:57.57 | emte | ttyS1 115200 8N1 HWFlow |
| 01:58.10 | emte | i am guessing are your debian settings for minicom? |
| 01:58.33 | SalsaDoom | no hardware or software flow |
| 01:58.40 | emte | enable hardware |
| 01:58.55 | SalsaDoom | I tried that, but that was before the fluff bit |
| 01:59.24 | emte | it just allows the RS chips to handle resend etc |
| 01:59.38 | SalsaDoom | nope, dead |
| 02:00.30 | emte | and i dount you have a scope or multimeter around |
| 02:00.33 | emte | doubt* |
| 02:00.35 | SalsaDoom | I only have on serial port on this machine, /dev/ttyS0, which I can confirm through dmesg. Its at 115220 8N1 with hardware flow control just enabled. Soft is off. |
| 02:00.51 | SalsaDoom | Hmmm, no, but I do have one at work I think, but its probably to thick |
| 02:01.01 | emte | ttyS0 is a virtual/mouse device for me ... |
| 02:01.37 | SalsaDoom | dmesg> serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A |
| 02:02.23 | SalsaDoom | mind you -- my keyspan usb->serial -did absolutely- work before, and it doesn't now. Maybe a lot of converters won't work, but this particular one did before all this |
| 02:02.38 | SalsaDoom | that rules out something weird with my pc's serial port |
| 02:03.16 | emte | not really ... |
| 02:03.29 | emte | i still suspect it might just be a setting ... |
| 02:03.54 | emte | and you tried running minicom as root? |
| 02:04.03 | emte | (obvious test) |
| 02:04.13 | SalsaDoom | Yup, makes no difference |
| 02:04.28 | emte | what does log/messages tell you? |
| 02:04.51 | SalsaDoom | Absolutely nothing |
| 02:08.51 | SalsaDoom | Using a bright white flashlight, the contacts on the port really don't look damaged at all... but I can't think of anything else |
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| 02:15.58 | bluelightning | matt_: sorry, got distracted updating the wiki |
| 02:16.33 | emte | curious ... SalsaDoom what terminal type do you have set? |
| 02:17.14 | SalsaDoom | erhm, minicoms default vt102 |
| 02:20.09 | bluelightning | FYI, h5550 = h5555... the "5" is an internal HP distribution channel indicator, means nothing to anyone else |
| 02:20.29 | bluelightning | only the h6300 is different, the 5 indicates it has a camera AFAIK |
| 02:20.36 | matt_ | bluelightning ahh ok, was just wondering what you thought about bettery packs and extended batteries for h5550's |
| 02:21.29 | bluelightning | well, they help, but the main problem with the h5550 is the kernel doesn't seem to fully support power saving on it and its charging behaviour is very poorly designed |
| 02:21.57 | matt_ | humm |
| 02:22.08 | bluelightning | they're still bad with charging even under PocketPC, we had issues with them at work |
| 02:22.09 | matt_ | one of the things i use this for it a sip phone on a wireless network |
| 02:22.23 | matt_ | and i want to recive calls on it |
| 02:22.34 | bluelightning | matt_: ok, does it work atm? |
| 02:22.45 | matt_ | atm calls are routed to a phone and my pda but cus of the battery issue its normally off |
| 02:23.03 | bluelightning | doh :( |
| 02:23.18 | matt_ | its gr8 for making calls tho :) |
| 02:23.21 | SalsaDoom | So, is it even possible to have serial disabled from the bootloader? |
| 02:23.59 | bluelightning | SalsaDoom: not AFAIK... every time I have heard of this situation before it has been a device / connection problem |
| 02:24.22 | bluelightning | SalsaDoom: I presume it has been reset and fully charged? h5550s can be dodgy with low battery |
| 02:24.37 | SalsaDoom | yeah, it has been, many, many, many times.. |
| 02:25.04 | bluelightning | hmm... well I'm not sure what you can do... it sounds to me like you've tried everything |
| 02:25.53 | SalsaDoom | lol, heh, yeah, I have. The port just has to be have been damaged by that damn keyboard somehow |
| 02:26.45 | bluelightning | SalsaDoom: which keyboard was that? |
| 02:27.45 | SalsaDoom | I don't recall anymore |
| 02:28.08 | SalsaDoom | some old one, that someone said worked but.. it didn't. I got it used and I think the keyboard itself was broken .. |
| 02:28.13 | matt_ | does the familier kernel support pcmcia expanction packs ? |
| 02:28.17 | SalsaDoom | Not sure exactly, but I never got it working in any os |
| 02:28.30 | bluelightning | matt_: yep, definitely |
| 02:28.37 | matt_ | cool |
| 02:28.53 | matt_ | i think i'm gonna buy a pcmcia pack with an extended battery |
| 02:28.55 | SalsaDoom | bluelightning: it isn't possible to install familiar without the serial is it? |
| 02:29.04 | bluelightning | matt_: important to remember the expansion packs themselves only support 16-bit cards, not Cardbus ones which the majority of new cards are |
| 02:29.17 | matt_ | oh |
| 02:29.33 | bluelightning | SalsaDoom: not as far as I know... you need the bootloader to do it |
| 02:29.58 | bluelightning | matt_: you can still get 16-bit ones but you have to be careful |
| 02:30.05 | matt_ | humm, well tbh if i could just buy a really big battery that you clip on i would but is seems all these battery packets need to either have a cf or pcmcia expanction pack |
| 02:30.07 | bluelightning | it's a device limitation rather than a Linux one |
| 02:30.40 | bluelightning | matt_: I did buy a battery box once that takes AA batteries... never used it |
| 02:30.46 | bluelightning | it's pretty chunky as well |
| 02:30.59 | matt_ | "The PCMCIA version does drain the battery a little more vigorously than the CF version" |
| 02:31.01 | matt_ | hum |
| 02:31.20 | matt_ | ok maybe the cf version then |
| 02:31.23 | matt_ | lol |
| 02:31.38 | matt_ | yea, so do like to put it on my pocket when walking around |
| 02:31.43 | bluelightning | oh, that 16-bit / cardbus thing is a PC card issue... for CF they're all the same, so assuming the kernel supports the card it should be OK |
| 02:31.59 | matt_ | k |
| 02:32.02 | bluelightning | you can use CF cards in PC card slots as well, if you get an adapter (which is cheap) |
| 02:32.51 | matt_ | ok |
| 02:33.20 | matt_ | so would you say an expanction pack with extended battery is worth it, if you use wlan alot |
| 02:33.55 | bluelightning | well I would think so, but I haven't done any comparisons on lifetime |
| 02:34.04 | matt_ | ok |
| 02:34.28 | matt_ | i just want it to run for like 10 hours with the wlan on without dieing |
| 02:35.02 | emte | good luck |
| 02:35.25 | emte | the sleeve+battery doesnt work right |
| 02:35.42 | emte | no one has ever gotten the code working properly |
| 02:35.56 | emte | i am prodding at it for 2.6 |
| 02:36.08 | matt_ | code ? |
| 02:36.14 | matt_ | i just wanna use the battery bit of it |
| 02:36.16 | emte | but i've nothing useful |
| 02:36.19 | bluelightning | emte: are you sure? it seems to work for me, unless I have missed something... |
| 02:36.38 | emte | its supposed to trickle charge main and run off expansion |
| 02:36.48 | emte | until the expansion is dead |
| 02:37.00 | emte | currently it still only runs off the main battery |
| 02:37.12 | bluelightning | emte: hmm, interesting, I did not know that |
| 02:37.57 | bluelightning | emte: is this with all devices, just pxa, or just h5xxx? |
| 02:38.02 | emte | there are commands to handle it but it doesnt look like they have been properly used |
| 02:38.22 | emte | i am only looking at the SA stuff |
| 02:38.26 | matt_ | oh, so if i get an expation it wont make any difference ? |
| 02:38.37 | emte | but the sleeve code i belive is shared across quite a few devices |
| 02:38.47 | emte | it makes a small difference |
| 02:39.14 | bluelightning | matt_: SA = h3800 and older only, but as emte says it could be all devices |
| 02:39.15 | emte | more of a differance if you use CF cards in the PCMCIA slot |
| 02:39.36 | emte | since PCMCIA cards by design drain more |
| 02:40.35 | emte | bluelightning, the biggest flaw that comes to mind is that the expansion should continue to trickle charge main while the device is asleep |
| 02:40.49 | emte | or in suspend |
| 02:41.02 | bluelightning | emte: ok |
| 02:41.02 | emte | hence twarting the evil dataloss problem |
| 02:41.12 | emte | when main runs flat |
| 02:41.38 | matt_ | i dont get a data loss problem |
| 02:41.42 | matt_ | (have |
| 02:41.46 | matt_ | *have |
| 02:42.01 | matt_ | i think i did with ce tho |
| 02:42.07 | matt_ | but that was a long time ago |
| 02:42.14 | emte | it depends on the wm and the image |
| 02:42.23 | matt_ | k |
| 02:42.23 | emte | it is a ... debated image |
| 02:42.36 | bluelightning | emte: ? |
| 02:42.51 | emte | either you write to flash and risk wearing it out or you dont and risk losing data |
| 02:42.53 | matt_ | use to loose all the settings on ce when a battery went dead lol |
| 02:43.09 | bluelightning | emte: oh right |
| 02:43.20 | matt_ | oh humm |
| 02:43.34 | matt_ | i right to my sd card mostly |
| 02:43.35 | bluelightning | is flash wear actually an issue for normal Familiar use? has anyone worn theirs out yet? |
| 02:44.47 | emte | bluelightning, not sure |
| 02:45.08 | emte | i just know that the subject goes back and forth in GPE |
| 02:45.51 | emte | i belive they are back in "save the flash" mode |
| 02:46.02 | bluelightning | well, for me, WinCE using RAM was one of the major reasons I wasn't interested in using it |
| 02:46.27 | bluelightning | they just go flat too easily, and then *poof* your data is gone |
| 02:46.31 | matt_ | you know you can slow down the processor on laptops to save energy |
| 02:46.36 | matt_ | and pc's for that matter |
| 02:46.42 | matt_ | can you do that with ipaq's ? |
| 02:46.55 | emte | some have cupfreq |
| 02:46.55 | bluelightning | matt_: yeah, something similar already happens with iPAQs in sleep mode AFAIK |
| 02:47.05 | emte | only the PXAs tho afaik |
| 02:47.19 | emte | cpufreq* |
| 02:47.27 | matt_ | k, so if i just wanted it as a sip client i could slow it right down and save energy for the wlan |
| 02:47.29 | emte | its a fairly recent addition |
| 02:47.49 | emte | audio is pretty intensive |
| 02:47.59 | matt_ | i have used cpufreq on my laptop but i think i got bored of it and stopped using it |
| 02:47.59 | matt_ | lol |
| 02:48.23 | bluelightning | matt_: interesting aside: if you look in the battery compartment you will see a little card slot (or space for one) |
| 02:48.40 | matt_ | like a sim card ? |
| 02:48.44 | matt_ | yea i have seen that before |
| 02:48.47 | bluelightning | matt_: also, between the h3900 and h5xxx they moved the mic from the top to the bottom |
| 02:49.08 | bluelightning | I think they had ideas about using the h5xxx as a phone, but never developed them |
| 02:49.12 | matt_ | :) good, i wouldn't beable to use it as a phone if they didn't |
| 02:49.12 | matt_ | lol |
| 02:50.02 | matt_ | thats ok tho, cus i dont want to use it for gsm networks |
| 02:50.40 | bluelightning | matt_: I think what you really need is a customised kernel... so it can keep the wifi up in with the rest of the device in semi-sleep mode and wake up when it gets a signal |
| 02:51.18 | matt_ | yea that would be good |
| 02:52.03 | matt_ | but i would need everything running .. appart from the screen for it to get the call |
| 02:52.07 | emte | screwdriver :P |
| 02:52.21 | bluelightning | SalsaDoom: torx t6 screwdriver, a keen eye and precise hands :) |
| 02:52.23 | matt_ | and also its alot of work and i will probuly break it lol |
| 02:52.24 | SalsaDoom | emte: I got a badass screwdriver, perfect for this thing |
| 02:52.29 | emte | most wireless devices support wakeonlan |
| 02:52.41 | emte | you have a torx set? |
| 02:52.57 | SalsaDoom | well, I repair laptops for a living.. and well, they are bigger, but at least I have the mindset ;P |
| 02:53.03 | emte | lol |
| 02:53.04 | SalsaDoom | it only uses a single torx type |
| 02:53.12 | matt_ | emte: it is possiable to make asterisk run commands, i would make it run a system command that wakes it up and then transfer the call, retrying 3 times or so :) |
| 02:53.15 | matt_ | that would be perfect |
| 02:53.23 | emte | actually taking ipaqs apart is easy ..... |
| 02:53.37 | emte | kinda cracked eth shell on my sleeve+battery |
| 02:54.05 | bluelightning | emte: any idea how to open a dual slot ipaq sleeve? I tried, but it seems to be sealed somehow |
| 02:54.14 | SalsaDoom | There are six screws on the back, I have them removed and I'm seeing how to case comes apart |
| 02:54.17 | emte | blue its not sealed |
| 02:54.24 | emte | they have internal hooks |
| 02:54.31 | emte | that is how i cracked my case ... |
| 02:54.36 | bluelightning | emte: ah ok... I was afraid of breaking something :( |
| 02:55.06 | emte | bluelightning, and the plastic is very soft on the hooks |
| 02:55.32 | bluelightning | emte: no doubt, I have broken similar clips on my cellphone when trying to open it |
| 02:55.56 | bluelightning | maybe I can live with the charging socket being unreliable after all... |
| 02:55.57 | emte | the ones in mine are about 1cm wide |
| 02:56.14 | emte | and the are hooked towards the outside |
| 02:56.55 | emte | there is one in the middle on each long side |
| 02:57.13 | emte | and i cant remember on the bottom ... |
| 02:57.17 | bluelightning | emte: ok |
| 02:57.28 | emte | this is for a COMPAQ manuf sleeve |
| 02:57.40 | bluelightning | emte: yeah, that's what I have |
| 02:57.47 | matt_ | SalsaDoom you might beable to make a new serial port by soldering on wires to the correct pins |
| 02:57.51 | emte | then it should be simular |
| 02:57.55 | matt_ | dont know where you will find that info tho |
| 02:59.04 | matt_ | cant seem to find anything for wol :( |
| 02:59.30 | emte | http://www.labotomy.net/corereactor/projects/ipaq/ipaq/batteryX1_tn.jpg http://www.labotomy.net/corereactor/projects/ipaq/ipaq/batteryX2_tn.jpg |
| 02:59.45 | emte | if your curious what the inside of your sleeve+battery looks like |
| 03:02.51 | matt_ | gr8, on tv atm is a program with people talking in some language, and its subtitled in some other language and i dont undertand either |
| 03:02.52 | matt_ | :( |
| 03:02.59 | emte | lol |
| 03:03.12 | emte | turn on the music and let the comedy ensue |
| 03:03.35 | matt_ | lol yea i got my headphones on |
| 03:05.36 | bluelightning | emte: interesting... though the non thumbnail versions are more interesting :) |
| 03:05.52 | matt_ | LOL, 2 guys jumping up and down in a tub and then they take some liquid out of it and some guy wearing a suit is pressured into drinking it |
| 03:12.26 | matt_ | also ... i have 2 card icons on the screen |
| 03:12.45 | matt_ | if i tap them one says 0: empty socket and 1: empty socket |
| 03:12.59 | matt_ | and if i tap the other it says .. Eject SD/MMC card |
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| 03:22.32 | matt_ | http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=3114 |
| 03:22.36 | matt_ | that looks like a nice idea |
| 03:23.16 | matt_ | but i dont want to use the little clip to you get to plug the ipaq into the powercable |
| 03:23.26 | matt_ | because it seems really flimsy to be using when carrying arounf |
| 03:23.57 | matt_ | i would want a cable that goes from that device directly into the botton of the ipaq and the connector dosn't stick out loads |
| 03:24.07 | SalsaDoom | eh, |
| 03:24.12 | SalsaDoom | this is totally like a laptop inside |
| 03:24.31 | SalsaDoom | scale is pretty much the same, only the board is smaller -- but scaled similiarly. Same ZIF sockets and shit.. |
| 03:27.01 | emte | SalsaDoom, 10yrs ago it was your laprop :P |
| 03:27.05 | emte | laptop* |
| 03:27.41 | SalsaDoom | ha! This is -way- more powerful then my first laptop, a 486DX 50 ;P |
| 03:27.44 | SalsaDoom | 50mhz that is |
| 03:27.57 | SalsaDoom | This bad boy is 400mhz, back then my brain would have exploded at the raw power |
| 03:28.09 | SalsaDoom | ok, well, ipaq h5555's are totally easy to dismantle. |
| 03:28.38 | emte | back them people actually programmed properly |
| 03:28.38 | matt_ | lol |
| 03:28.38 | emte | then* |
| 03:28.38 | SalsaDoom | this is far easier then most laptops actually. |
| 03:28.38 | SalsaDoom | (eat shit toshiba and ibm ;) |
| 03:28.43 | SalsaDoom | they did! |
| 03:29.54 | emte | SalsaDoom, well these do not have to use cleaver heatsinks nore jam hdd,drives, and a keyboard into it |
| 03:30.13 | emte | clever* |
| 03:31.04 | SalsaDoom | yeah... or a thousand different types of screws ;P just one type. |
| 03:31.13 | SalsaDoom | well, two. Same head, different lengths |
| 03:35.01 | SalsaDoom | hmm, looks ok... |
| 03:47.57 | bluelightning | matt_: bluetooth GPSs are the way to go IMO... much more flexibility when you can have the screen separate from the GPS device |
| 04:00.41 | SalsaDoom | erhm, ok, took it apart and put it back together. Still works, as well as before ;P |
| 04:02.01 | SalsaDoom | found some lint .. ;P |
| 04:02.08 | SalsaDoom | no damage could be found ;\ |
| 04:04.55 | SalsaDoom | HA |
| 04:05.17 | SalsaDoom | it works now. |
| 04:06.19 | emte | lol |
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| 23:43.33 | matt_ | hey, does anybody have any experiance with wlan power management ? |
| 23:43.50 | matt_ | i just found iwconfig power option |
