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02:57.46kholkhello boys
02:57.49kholkI have a simple question
02:58.06kholkon familiar linux for my iPAQ 3760
02:58.28kholknow I'm using WinCE and taking internet connection from USB (Microsoft ActiveSync)
02:58.33bluelightningkholk: hi
02:58.48kholkis that possible with familiar?
02:59.10bluelightningusb networking does not currently work on that model under Linux unfortunately
02:59.22kholkouch
02:59.39kholkI'll wait for my expansion pack then..
02:59.50bluelightningyou can use another network connection method though
03:00.10kholkyes buy I don't have an expansion pack
03:00.12kholk*but
03:00.22bluelightningwell if you have a serial cable you can use PPP over serial
03:00.28bluelightningit's not the fastest method but it does work
03:00.34kholkno, I don't..
03:00.58bluelightningI would recommend getting a serial cable or cradle with a serial connector if you intend to install Linux
03:01.19kholkwhat about costs of the serial cable?
03:01.39kholkand where do I buy it?
03:02.09bluelightningyou should be able to get one through ebay, or just do a google search... plenty of places should be able to sell you one
03:02.13bluelightningthey aren't too expensiv
03:02.24kholkand what about expansion packs?
03:02.46bluelightningif you mean PCMCIA / CF card expansion packs, yes they do work (I have several here)
03:02.47kholkI'm getting a PCMCIA & battery expansion pack
03:02.58kholkyeah
03:03.00bluelightningyep if it's the standard HP/Compaq one it should be fine
03:03.09kholkyes
03:03.10kholkand
03:03.20kholkI don't have any PCMCIA WLAN cards
03:03.31kholkwhat card should I buy?
03:03.33bluelightningall you have to be careful of is whether or not the card(s) you want to use are supported
03:03.52bluelightningthere's some info here on wlan cards: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/IpaqHardwareCompatibility_2fWirelessLAN
03:04.08bluelightningI have a NetGear MA701 CF card that works fine
03:04.08kholkthank you!
03:04.16kholkperfect
03:04.51kholkI've tryed to upgrade to PPC2003
03:04.55kholkbut no success
03:05.00kholkthen.. I'll try linux
03:05.06kholk:P
03:05.07bluelightningcool :)
03:05.19kholkmobile internet explorer is too old..
03:05.42bluelightninghmm, unfortunately browsers aren't that great on Familiar either
03:05.55kholkouch :P
03:06.09bluelightningas you can imagine writing a web browser isn't an easy task
03:06.19bluelightningthere are browsers, they just aren't well maintained
03:06.21kholkyes
03:06.38kholkhmm..
03:06.59kholkis there a replacement to all PPC2002 applications?
03:07.06kholkfor familiar
03:07.10bluelightningdepends, what applications do you need?
03:07.17kholkhm
03:07.36kholkan app like HitchHiker (PPC2003)
03:07.44kholkwould be a good thing
03:07.51kholkand
03:07.59bluelightninghmm I've not heard of Hitchhiker
03:08.03kholkremote for TVs..
03:08.13bluelightningah ok it's a wireless scanning app
03:08.19kholkyes
03:08.58kholkMSN Messenger?
03:09.11bluelightningthere's wellenreiter for wireless scanning, it works fairly well
03:09.33kholkis there a replacement on familiar?
03:09.34kholkoh.. good..
03:09.38bluelightningthere's a slightly older version of gaim which may support msn messenger (I don't use it myself, so I can't be sure)
03:09.59bluelightningas for remotes, there is a program but frankly it's not very good
03:10.23kholkhm
03:10.54kholkbad..
03:11.12kholkI'm passing to linux for the old browser..
03:11.39kholkbut if there isn't any good browser
03:11.48bluelightningwell, perhaps for your needs linux on the ipaq isn't ready (yet)
03:11.50kholkI'll just try it..
03:12.00kholkhmm
03:12.00kholkyes
03:12.01bluelightningbut perhaps you could try it anyway :)
03:12.08kholki'll try it
03:12.18kholkwhen I'll get a PCMCIA CF card
03:12.23bluelightningok
03:12.30kholkI have linux on all my machines.. :P
03:12.38bluelightningcool, same here...
03:12.52kholkI use debian! :P
03:13.10kholkwell
03:13.16kholkthank you for the support
03:13.19kholkI must go
03:13.27bluelightningI have debian on a server here, kubuntu on my laptop, but for my desktop I use gentoo
03:13.36bluelightningok no problem
03:13.37bluelightningcya
03:13.39kholkheh
03:13.48kholkI have ubuntu on my laptop
03:14.05kholkdebian etch on server and another desktop
03:14.08kholkand here..
03:14.14kholkhere I use WindowsXP x64 :P
03:14.27bluelightningheh
03:14.30kholkthis is my gaming PC :P
03:14.49bluelightningI dual boot winxp on here, but only for games and not very often even for that
03:14.50kholkand linux is not excellent for playing
03:15.06bluelightningno, it isn't perfect
03:15.24kholkinfact I've tryed Cedega
03:15.33kholkbut it's obrobrious!
03:15.34kholk:P
03:16.02bluelightningyes I have used it also, it's easier to just reboot into Windows
03:16.12kholkhere I have an ubuntu installation
03:16.20kholkbut I don't use it..
03:16.32kholkbecause here I have WindowsLiveMessenger with Plus
03:16.46kholkand aMSN with Plus plugin is not the maximum
03:17.15bluelightninghmm... I've never used such things... I use ICQ/IRC for chat
03:17.31kholkI've used IRC for years
03:17.43kholk:P
03:17.51kholkXChat on linux..
03:18.07bluelightningI prefer Konversation
03:18.14bluelightningbut then I'm a KDE fan, so... :)
03:18.19kholkhmm..
03:18.24kholknever tried..
03:18.25kholk:P
03:18.32kholkhuh
03:18.40kholkI use both Gnome and KDE
03:18.47kholkand WindowMaker!
03:18.59bluelightningI've been KDE-only for a while now
03:19.02kholkWindowMaker is fantastic
03:19.21kholk:P
03:19.39kholkon all my machines (except for the server) I use gnome
03:19.44kholkand sometimes KDE
03:19.59kholkon the server I haven't installed X :P
03:20.14bluelightning:)
03:20.47kholkhere in Italy the time is 4.20AM
03:21.06bluelightning4:20PM here in New Zealand
03:21.11kholkit's convenient to sleep dome hours.. :P
03:21.28bluelightningheh
03:22.02kholkI'll return here.. when I'll install familiar :P
03:22.09bluelightningok cool
03:22.10kholkif you want
03:22.20kholkI can give you my MSN contact
03:22.25bluelightningsure, I'll be here... I'm sure you will have more questions
03:22.31kholkokay :D
03:22.33bluelightningwell I don't have an MSN account
03:22.42kholkthen
03:22.53kholkwe'll see on IRC :P
03:23.00bluelightningok :)
03:23.11kholkwell
03:23.17kholkthank you for all the support
03:23.20bluelightningno probs
03:23.30kholkgoodnight! :P
03:23.35bluelightningnight kholk
03:23.38kholkbyez!
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14:01.02univachow can i print the verbose oupiut kernel/init on fb?
14:01.12univaci want see what kernel and init prints
14:04.25bluelightningunivac: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FamiliarFaq
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15:04.50univacthere are the familiar snapshots?
15:04.57univaci want newest than the latest familiar release
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16:28.28redroksomebody here who can tell me how to use minicom? :>
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