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| 01:56.40 | lll]_Right | help!! |
| 01:56.48 | lll]_Right | I am using hp5450 |
| 01:57.05 | lll]_Right | can anyone send to me bootloader image file? |
| 01:57.38 | lll]_Right | I lost it when upgrade bootloader. t.t |
| 01:57.54 | lll]_Right | help~~ |
| 01:58.14 | lll]_Right | sombody help~ :) |
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| 10:52.35 | [Shiba] | is there a place I can grab a prebuilt SDK, preferably with the X11 libraries included? |
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| 13:00.18 | jumpula | anyone encountered such problem that the bootloader is totally inaccessible from h5550? |
| 13:00.52 | jumpula | linux boots ok, i just can't access the bootloader |
| 13:02.28 | jumpula | excat the same problem can be found with google, but no answers to so far :( |
| 13:03.37 | jumpula | http://www.arcknowledge.com/gmane.comp.handhelds.ipaq.boot-loader/2006-03/msg00008.html |
| 13:03.55 | jumpula | that is the same problem |
| 13:05.39 | jumpula | i have no clue about the bootloader version. probably old. |
| 13:05.55 | jumpula | i would tell you if i could access it :) |
| 13:06.45 | jumpula | tried holding down the joypad, holding down the power, and maniacly hitting space at the same time from the console |
| 13:06.48 | jumpula | but nothing. |
| 13:06.57 | jumpula | with joypad, nothing happens |
| 13:07.05 | jumpula | with every other key, linux is booted |
| 13:08.09 | jumpula | i accept any solution helping me in upgrading the bootloader |
| 13:08.25 | jumpula | or accessing it. whatever. |
| 13:08.40 | jumpula | is there any program i can use to do the flashing from linux? |
| 13:09.17 | jumpula | or alternatively, somehow flash the wince back and then proceed with installing the familiar bootloader normally |
| 13:12.40 | jumpula | alternatively, if there is any windows/linux application i can use to flash the thing remotely using usb/serial-connection, i'm ok with that too |
| 13:13.56 | jumpula | currently i'm running out of tricks to try... |
| 13:14.49 | [Shiba] | isn't the 55xx screen not supported by the boot loader? |
| 13:15.01 | [Shiba] | try accessing it with a serial console |
| 13:15.11 | jumpula | i've been trying the whole time |
| 13:15.30 | [Shiba] | are you sure you've got the settings on the terminal emulator correct? |
| 13:15.41 | jumpula | i get just uncompressing linux from the console and the normal boot messages no matter what i do |
| 13:15.51 | jumpula | yes. the boot messages come okay. |
| 13:16.21 | [Shiba] | are you trying to reinstall familiar? |
| 13:16.22 | jumpula | unless the bootloader uses different setup than the 115200 8n1 |
| 13:16.45 | [Shiba] | well if nothing else |
| 13:16.56 | jumpula | the familiar boots okay |
| 13:17.06 | [Shiba] | now I am not a Familiar developer, so please understand that I don't know how to do this, |
| 13:17.07 | jumpula | i can use it from the console |
| 13:17.18 | [Shiba] | but you should be able to reinstall the boot loader when linux boots |
| 13:17.45 | [Shiba] | if the boot loader can be written out when using WinCE, it can also be written out using Linux |
| 13:18.03 | [Shiba] | the boot loader may have somehow been partially corrupted |
| 13:18.03 | jumpula | logically, yes. |
| 13:18.33 | [Shiba] | as I said, I'm no developer |
| 13:18.43 | [Shiba] | well, no familiar developer anyway |
| 13:18.52 | jumpula | corrupted so that linux boots, but the bootloader itself cannot brought up? |
| 13:19.06 | jumpula | *be brought up |
| 13:19.11 | [Shiba] | all it would take would be one byte |
| 13:19.29 | [Shiba] | one bit even |
| 13:19.52 | [Shiba] | change a jmp opcode to a mov and your boot loader is toast |
| 13:19.54 | jumpula | yes, but that would prevent it from booting altogether, would it? |
| 13:20.00 | [Shiba] | not necessarily |
| 13:20.11 | [Shiba] | it depends on where the code is corrupted |
| 13:20.33 | jumpula | this installation is really old. my guess would be that the hardware was not properly supported then. |
| 13:21.15 | jumpula | i have no idea who done it in the first place :) |
| 13:21.16 | [Shiba] | try to find the BootBlaster source code. read it to find out what exactly is written to where and rewrite it for Linux |
| 13:21.59 | [Shiba] | and don't tell me you're thinking of reinstalling WinCE |
| 13:22.20 | [Shiba] | well I have to go back to bed now |
| 13:22.25 | [Shiba] | fucking insomnia |
| 13:22.27 | jumpula | i'm thinking of anything which helps me to access the bootloader |
| 13:22.38 | jumpula | right now, i cannot do it |
| 13:22.57 | jumpula | i can't flash anything there |
| 13:23.07 | jumpula | be in wince or familiar |
| 13:23.10 | [Shiba] | if the flash memory where the boot loader is located has been corrupted, you're gonna have to find a way to rewrite it |
| 13:23.13 | jumpula | in = it |
| 13:23.24 | [Shiba] | there is no way around that |
| 13:23.27 | jumpula | do you have any suggestions to that? |
| 13:23.35 | jumpula | how to rewrite it? |
| 13:23.43 | [Shiba] | I didn't write BootBlaster |
| 13:23.50 | [Shiba] | so no |
| 13:24.09 | [Shiba] | I'd suspect that the boot loader is written out starting at flash byte 0 |
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| 13:24.19 | jumpula | do you know anyone who might know? |
| 13:24.42 | [Shiba] | thus you should be able to use dd in Linux to write out a new boot loader |
| 13:25.03 | [Shiba] | assuming of course that the boot loader sits at address 0 in flash |
| 13:25.23 | [Shiba] | if you do it and your unit is bricked though, don't come crying back to me -- you've been warned |
| 13:25.38 | [Shiba] | as I said, the only way to do it safely is to read the boot blaster source |
| 13:26.12 | [Shiba] | rewrite the app in C and compile it using the oe sdk |
| 13:27.27 | [Shiba] | you may need to hold down the power button while resetting hte unit |
| 13:27.46 | [Shiba] | and I need sleep |
| 13:27.48 | [Shiba] | good luck |
| 13:29.13 | jumpula | tried the power button too |
| 13:29.35 | jumpula | it boots to linux like with any other or no button |
| 13:30.02 | jumpula | and with joypad, it does nothing (doesn't even boot) |
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| 21:25.32 | Andre2 | hello all |
| 21:28.32 | Andre2 | I have a few questions regarding familiar+OPIE on an iPAQ3870, is this the right place to put them? |
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| 23:05.20 | deus | I cant remove a package |
| 23:05.21 | deus | im trying to get usbnet connection |
| 23:05.23 | deus | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/WindowsXpUsbNetworkHowTo |
| 23:05.23 | deus | trough this guide |
| 23:05.26 | deus | my host os is ubntu edgy so i have to use this guide |
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| 23:05.32 | deus | However, i cant remove kernel-module-usb-eth |
| 23:05.57 | deus | and the link i get where i must downlod the packages, isnt avalalbe |
| 23:05.57 | deus | where can i get ipkg packagtes? |
| 23:06.46 | deus | help! |
| 23:11.19 | deus | If Maggie Thatcher |
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