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10:21.30muxxping
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10:49.39muxxTheX1le> hi. I did not expect a reply
10:50.27muxxcould you help me with getting sound to work on IPAQ3630?
10:52.16ASAhi
10:52.57ASAwhat i have to do, to connect ipaq h3950 via usb with ubuntu 6.10
10:53.14ASAipaq ia familiar+gpe
10:53.32ASAi don't se the ipaq with lsusb
10:54.04ASABus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:54.04ASABus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:54.04ASABus 001 Device 004: ID 045e:0095 Microsoft Corp.
10:54.04ASABus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:54.05ASABus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:54.05ASABus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:54.16ASAwith WinCe i see it
10:54.29ASABus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:54.29ASABus 002 Device 002: ID 049f:0003 Compaq Computer Corp. iPAQ PocketPC
10:54.29ASABus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:54.29ASABus 001 Device 004: ID 045e:0095 Microsoft Corp.
10:54.30ASABus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:54.30ASABus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:54.32ASABus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
10:55.27muxxusb slave controller on the IPAQ is disabled? sorry I am just guessing
10:55.40ASAhow can i check?
10:57.00ASAlsmod | grep usb
10:57.06ASAusb-eth
10:57.15ASAusb_core
10:57.29ASApxausb_core
10:57.47ASAat76_usbdfu
10:58.07ASAusbcore
10:58.14ASAthis is what i get
10:58.28ASAseems to be loaded
11:03.19bluelightningASA: what kernel do you have on your desktop?
11:03.21bluelightninguname -a
11:05.58ASABus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:05.58ASA<ASA> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 049f:0003 Compaq Computer Corp. iPAQ PocketPC
11:05.58ASA<ASA> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:05.58ASA<ASA> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 045e:0095 Microsoft Corp.
11:05.58ASA<ASA> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:05.58ASA<ASA> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:06.00ASA<ASA> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:06.02ASAoh
11:06.12ASA2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh41.1
11:06.25bluelightningI meant on the desktop PC...
11:06.27ASAoh, moment
11:06.45ASA<PROTECTED>
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11:07.16bluelightningdo you have usbnet and cdc_subset drivers loaded on the desktop?
11:07.22bluelightningmodules that is
11:07.43ASAasa@asa:~$ lsmod | grep usb
11:07.43ASAusbhid                 45152  0
11:07.43ASAusbserial              34152  1 ipaq
11:07.43ASAusbcore               134912  6 usbhid,ipaq,usbserial,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
11:08.25bluelightningstrange, what's that ipaq module?
11:09.00ASAasa@asa:~$ modinfo ipaq
11:09.00ASAfilename:       /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/ipaq.ko
11:09.00ASAauthor:         Ganesh Varadarajan <ganesh@veritas.com>
11:09.00ASAdescription:    USB PocketPC PDA driver
11:09.00ASAlicense:        GPL
11:09.01ASAvermagic:       2.6.17-11-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1
11:09.03ASAdepends:        usbserial,usbcore
11:09.05ASAalias:          usb:v049Fp0003d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
11:09.07ASAalias:          usb:v0104p00BEd*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
11:09.09ASAalias:          usb:v03F0p1016d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
11:09.11ASAalias:          usb:v03F0p1116d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
11:09.13ASAalias:          usb:v03F0p1216d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
11:09.15ASAalias:          usb:v03F0p2016d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
11:09.17ASA.
11:09.21ASA.
11:09.23ASAalias:          usb:v4505p0010d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
11:09.25ASAalias:          usb:v5E04pCE00d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
11:09.29ASAsrcversion:     8EDF0CE7EFC6DDF9F4AB513
11:09.31ASAparm:           product:User specified USB idProduct (ushort)
11:09.33ASAparm:           vendor:User specified USB idVendor (ushort)
11:09.35ASAparm:           debug:Debug enabled or not (bool)
11:10.04bluelightningdo you have cdc_subset module in that kernel? (I can't remember which version introduced it, sorry)
11:10.52ASAi can load it
11:11.03ASAbut it's not compiled in
11:11.14bluelightningshouldn't need to be, module should be ok
11:11.19bluelightningit will probably work better than that ipaq module I think
11:11.36ASAasa@asa:~$ modprobe cdc_subset
11:11.36ASAWARNING: Error inserting usbnet (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/net/usbnet.ko): Operation not permitted
11:11.36ASAFATAL: Error inserting cdc_subset (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/net/cdc_subset.ko): Operation not permitted
11:11.40ASA:(
11:11.48bluelightningtry rmmod ipaq first
11:12.24ASAasa@asa:~$ rmmod ipaq
11:12.24ASAERROR: Removing 'ipaq': Operation not permitted
11:12.31ASAit don't work
11:12.41bluelightninghmm, maybe module removing is disabled in that kernel...
11:12.58ASAAHHHHHHHH
11:13.09bluelightningdon't know why they would do that but they may have
11:13.21ASAasa@asa:~$  <--- :)
11:13.43ASAforgotten to su- :)
11:13.55bluelightningheh that would also do it :)
11:14.34ASAroot@asa:~# lsmod | grep cdc
11:14.34ASAcdc_subset              4736  0
11:14.34ASAusbnet                 18568  1 cdc_subset
11:14.34ASAusbcore               134912  8 cdc_subset,usbnet,usbhid,ipaq,usbserial,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
11:15.23bluelightningASA: ok, so does "ifconfig usb0" say anything useful on your desktop now?
11:15.37ASAbut, with WinCE on the ipaq i can see it with lsusb
11:16.39ASAusb0: FEHLER beim Auslesen der Schnittstellenmerker: No such device
11:17.10ASAi don't think its a problem on my desktop
11:17.25ASAcause i can see dthe ipaq wit WinCE
11:17.31bluelightningASA: ok... well firstly I would recommend doing "rmmod ipaq" "rmmod cdc_subset" "rmmod usbnet"
11:17.38ASAonly wit gpe i can't se it
11:17.47bluelightningASA: WinCE uses a different protocol, so that's not really relevant
11:17.53ASAaha
11:17.54ASAok
11:18.13bluelightning(I think maybe the ipaq module is getting in the way)
11:18.40ASAok, all rmmoded
11:18.50bluelightningok now modprobe cdc_subset again
11:18.57bluelightningbtw also you may wish to remove the usb-eth driver on the ipaq and use g_ether instead, since it's a lot better
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11:19.24bluelightningif you want to do the latter you will need to actually "ipkg remove kernel-module-usb-eth*"
11:19.46bluelightningthen reboot the ipaq, and then modprobe g_ether on the ipaq
11:21.10ASAok, modprobed cdc_subset
11:25.14bluelightningok, now do you see usb0 on the pc?
11:25.23ASAno
11:26.20ASAoh
11:26.24ASAone moment
11:26.38ASAroot@asa:~# lsusb
11:26.38ASABus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:26.38ASABus 002 Device 028: ID 0525:a4a2 Netchip Technology, Inc. Linux-USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget
11:26.38ASABus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:26.38ASABus 001 Device 004: ID 045e:0095 Microsoft Corp.
11:26.39ASABus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:26.41ASABus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:26.43ASABus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000  
11:27.06ASAi've removed the usb-eth module and loaded the g_ether module
11:27.22ASAit looks better now
11:27.25bluelightningok good, that should help a bit
11:27.37bluelightningstill no usb0 though?
11:27.42bluelightningshould be...
11:27.51ASAjuhuuuuuu
11:27.59ASAnow i get the usb0
11:28.02ASA:)
11:28.16bluelightning:)
11:28.31bluelightningonce the network is configured on both ends you should have a working usb network link
11:40.13muxxbluelightning> can you help me with my sound problem ?
11:40.57bluelightningmuxx: hmm, I'm not sure I know what the problem is
11:41.25bluelightningcan you try playing from a command line app (mpg123 / mpg321 etc)?
11:44.50ASAhmmm
11:44.58ASAit don't work
11:45.10ASAroot@h3900:/etc# ifconfig usbd0
11:45.10ASAifconfig: usbd0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
11:45.26ASAseems ther is no usbd0
11:52.44bluelightningASA: it's usb0, not usbd0
11:53.07ASAusb0 is present
11:53.16ASAbut it get no IP
11:54.40bluelightningASA: you have to give it an IP address yourself
11:54.46bluelightningat both ends
11:55.00bluelightningmake sure it's a subnet you aren't already using
11:55.08bluelightninglike 192.168.2.x
11:55.41ASAi habe a bridge on desktop
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12:00.16muxxbluelightning> /dev/dsp doesn't exist
12:00.26bluelightningmuxx: hmm, that's not good
12:00.47muxxbluelightning> /dev/sound is empty
12:01.19bluelightningmuxx: I think the driver is called snd-sa11xx-uda1341
12:01.24bluelightningone of them anyway
12:01.32bluelightningwhat does lsmod | grep snd show?
12:01.45muxxI installed familiar 0.8.4 and it doesn't work out of the box
12:01.52muxxI mean sound
12:02.44muxxlsmod |grep snd shows nothing
12:03.02muxxare these modules supposed to be loaded automagically >?
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12:06.59muxxbluelightning> did modprobe snd-sa11xx-uda1341, it loaded a whole bunch of sound modules
12:08.04bluelightningmuxx: they are supposed to be loaded automatically yes
12:08.17bluelightningdid modprobing it give you a sound device?
12:08.21muxxbluelightning> why don't they ?
12:08.28muxxbluelightning> no it did not 8(
12:08.35bluelightningnot sure, they do on my h3850
12:08.44bluelightningok... maybe one of them is missing
12:08.47bluelightninghang on a sec
12:09.00bluelightningwhat does lsmod | grep snd show now?
12:09.18oxohi there
12:09.47muxxbluelightning> bear with me. I have to type it all 8)
12:10.15bluelightninghi oxo
12:11.03muxxbluelightning> snd-sa11xx-uda1341, snd-pcm, snd-timer, snd-page-alloc, snd-uda1341, snd, ipaq_hal
12:11.34muxxbluelightning> modprobe did not complain. dmesg doesn't show any new sound-related output
12:11.54oxogpesyncd seems broken on my fresh 0.8.4 h3600 install
12:12.04bluelightningmuxx: try modprobe snd-pcm-oss
12:12.15muxxbluelightning> ok...
12:12.41oxois this a known problem?
12:12.52muxxbluelightning> loaded two modules...
12:13.14bluelightningoxo: I'm not sure, you may want to ask in #gpe, I don't know much about it
12:14.16oxok, tnx
12:14.35bluelightningmuxx: still no /dev/dsp, or did that help?
12:15.30muxxbluelightning> bluelightning> seems to have helped ! I did get /dev/dsp and catting there produces noise
12:15.40bluelightningmuxx: great :)
12:16.07muxxbluelightning> how do I get alsa working ? I assume that gpe's sound memo app uses alsa ?
12:16.37bluelightningmuxx: I'm not sure but I think those are the alsa drivers...
12:16.51bluelightningyes it should do
12:18.13muxxthe record memo app says "error opening sound device for reading"
12:18.33bluelightninghmm... something missing...
12:18.42muxxpermissions ?
12:18.49bluelightningcould be actually
12:18.57muxxI can't find any alsa modules
12:19.11bluelightningcheck the perms first
12:20.47oxook, and I had a familiar-related question:
12:20.55oxowhere did 'unstable' go?
12:21.01oxothe feed looks empty
12:21.15muxxchanged permissions, now works
12:21.22bluelightningoxo: the unstable feed was really full of old bad packages that would potentially kill your system
12:21.29muxxnow I am wondering how do I make it persistent
12:21.33bluelightningso it got cleared out
12:21.34oxohmm, that sounds like a bad idea :-)
12:21.57bluelightningmuxx: I was looking at that... what does this say: grep snd /etc/rc*/*
12:22.02oxois there some way without compiling all the stuff by hand to get some newer versions than those in 0.8.4?
12:22.26bluelightningoxo: no, unfortunately... was there a specific package you wanted?
12:22.50oxowell, gpesyncd
12:23.07oxothere is some svn-version flying around on the net, but that one has loads of unsatifyable deps
12:23.18oxoso I thought, well, let's go for unstable
12:24.17bluelightningoxo: hmm... well if it genuinely is broken then it's probably worth filing a bug in handhelds bugzilla so that it can get fixed
12:24.39bluelightningI'm not a gpe person or I'd happily build a package for you
12:24.52muxxbluelightning> four matches, K29alsa-driver in rc0.d, rc1.d, rc6.d and S29alsa-driver in rsS.d
12:24.55oxogood point, I'll strace it to see what exactly goes wrong
12:25.41bluelightningmuxx: hmm, that's what I have...
12:26.04bluelightningthere must be something stopping it from working on h36xx but not h38xx
12:26.48bluelightningunfortunately I really need to go to bed now, but perhaps you could try to investigate further
12:27.08muxxbluelightning> maybe a missing module? autoload_modules="snd-sa11xx-uda1341 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss"
12:27.48bluelightningmuxx: well none of those were loaded at all so I think it's safe to say that line is not even being called, or it's somehow failing
12:28.02bluelightningeg. it could be trying to load the modules too early
12:28.45muxxmaybe the hal module is not leaded yet...
12:28.58bluelightningyou could always add an lsmod > /tmp/test.log  just before that line and then reboot to find out
12:29.17muxxbtw, why is it K29alsa, not Ssomething ?
12:29.41bluelightningmuxx: it's a symlink to /etc/init.d/alsa
12:29.50bluelightningthe S link is in rcS.d
12:30.37bluelightninggotta go to bed, night :)
12:30.50muxxnighty night 8)
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23:16.39`Matiris it possible to (properly) install some of my software on my SD card
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23:19.32reenoo"some of" as in "base system in flash, extra apps on SD"?
23:20.18`Matiryes... such as the (huge) minimo
23:21.19reenoook, try adding a new destination to your ipkg.conf, install to that destination, and run ipkg-link
23:21.39`Matirahh, ipkg-link is the bit I was missing, thanks :)
23:21.54reenooI forget the exact commands but that should get you started
23:21.58reenoonp
23:26.27TheX1leyes but its almost impossible because vfat symlink
23:26.40TheX1leand i have never goten an sd card formated as ext2 to mount
23:26.54TheX1levfat cant* symlink
23:27.04TheX1leso if you dont mine maunaly linking a few things...
23:29.26`Matiractually, i just made an sd card that was half vfat, half ext2 and stuck it in and it mounted both partitions
23:29.40`Matirso i have my fingers crossed that this will work
23:30.17TheX1lehuh ill have to try that...
23:30.46TheX1lei had trouble with a CF card to... but i fixed that by only formating 500mb of the 512
23:30.57TheX1leright now im building OE for an h5455
23:31.19TheX1lei need prism2 injection drvers

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