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| 15:08.34 | luka | hello. can anybody help me with my cf card problem. when i insert the card into cf slot it doesnt recognise it. it print error: "failed to load module memory_cs" and "module /lib/.../memory_cs.o not found". i'm runing familir 8.2 with kernel 2.6.12-hh2 |
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| 16:33.41 | infinito | hi! |
| 16:33.41 | infinito | is there any way to get na orinoco pcmcia wireless card to work on familiar 0.8.4 ?? |
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| 17:29.22 | infinito | has has anyone here compiled a 2.6 kernel for familiar?? |
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| 17:35.17 | mm | hi! i need installation support for an h2210 device |
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| 17:47.31 | jcole | check this out -> http://www.gnome.org/mobile/ |
| 17:47.43 | jcole | and this, Ubuntu plans mobile Linux version - http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/05/07/ubuntu-mobile-linux_1.html |
| 17:47.49 | jcole | they are looking for mobile developers -> http://www.ubuntu.com/employment |
| 17:50.21 | infinito | nobody has ever compiled a kernel for familiar? |
| 17:51.35 | jcole | infinito: it depends on the handheld |
| 17:51.53 | infinito | an ipaq h5450 |
| 17:52.30 | infinito | with the latest familiar the pcmcia wireless cards doesnt work, and the integrated wifi doesnt work either |
| 17:53.09 | jcole | infinito: also, it's not like debian or gentoo etc. for building |
| 17:53.17 | jcole | infinito: they have some strange building process that involves a sql data file |
| 17:53.56 | infinito | im trying to follow this http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Linux26ToolsAndSources |
| 17:54.24 | jcole | infinito: lol, it's a pain in the ass... probably why many are not involved in linux mobile development |
| 17:55.33 | jcole | i've ranted many times to port familiar to debian so more people can get involved in mobile linux development |
| 17:57.08 | infinito | yeps |
| 17:57.29 | infinito | is kinda difficult 'cause the info on the wiki seems outdated |
| 17:57.41 | jcole | lol, ya |
| 17:57.53 | jcole | they are even running on some old mandrake servers |
| 17:57.59 | jcole | mandrake! |
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| 19:28.11 | reenoo | err |
| 19:28.30 | reenoo | jcole: the servers have nothing to do with the build process |
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| 19:31.10 | jcole | reenoo: ya, i know, i was mentioning that because of what infinito said |
| 19:31.10 | jcole | (10:56:38 AM) infinito: is kinda difficult 'cause the info on the wiki seems outdated |
| 19:31.13 | reenoo | jcole: it's nonsense nontheless |
| 19:31.36 | reenoo | jcole: the sql bit too |
| 19:33.16 | jcole | reenoo: the file downloaded to get the source bits to extract is a mini sql db |
| 19:33.33 | jcole | reenoo: do a "file" on it |
| 19:34.36 | reenoo | jcole: which file exactly? |
| 19:35.49 | reenoo | jcole: note that monotone was forced onto us by OE and we've long got rid of it |
| 19:37.48 | jcole | reenoo: ya, the bitbake files |
| 19:38.21 | jcole | reenoo: exactly, those .mtn files |
| 19:38.29 | jcole | http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ |
| 19:42.32 | jcole | reenoo: also, handhelds.org is running a very old mandrake that probably hasn't had a security patch for quite a while -> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=handhelds.org |
| 19:42.59 | jcole | fyi |
| 19:44.21 | reenoo | jcole: see... we do have problems. but monotone and mandrake aren't part of that. ranting about both points is misleading and doesn't help in any way |
| 19:45.06 | jcole | agreed |
| 19:46.31 | reenoo | jcole: if you need to get at the 0.8.4 build system bits have a look at http://familiar.handhelds.org/#build |
| 19:47.06 | reenoo | jcole: for 0.9 we're working towards something new but the transition will take a bit |
| 19:58.25 | jcole | reenoo: oh ok, thanks |
| 19:59.07 | jcole | reenoo: it would be great if familiar had more users and developers so it could have more packages and be more improved upon |
| 20:00.19 | jcole | reenoo: the ubuntu project trying is creating a mobile linux and it's too bad that familiar can't be apart of that :/ |
| 20:02.12 | reenoo | jcole: well, let's see. admittedly I know more that you and unfortunately I can't share details yet. but I wouldn't be too pessimistic about that |
| 20:02.23 | reenoo | s/more that/more than/ |
| 20:02.33 | reenoo | ibot: thanks |
| 20:02.33 | ibot | de nada, reenoo |
| 20:03.16 | jcole | thanks reenoo |
| 20:12.31 | reenoo | jcole: don't get me wrong there's no deal with ubuntu, but I can think of ways to benefit from each other starting with Familiar 0.9 |
| 20:13.57 | jcole | reenoo: i'll still keep my hopes up :) |
| 20:14.03 | jcole | reenoo: also, what's the deal with http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ ? |
| 20:17.30 | reenoo | jcole: well, they exist |
| 20:17.37 | infinito | will this Angstrom thing work now for an iPaq 5450??? |
| 20:18.10 | reenoo | jcole: Familiar and OpenZaurus bits slightly updated and rebadged as Angstrom |
| 20:18.18 | jcole | infinito: /j #angstrom |
| 20:19.10 | reenoo | infinito: could be. but I doubt it will help with your problem as they use the same handhelds.org kernel |
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| 22:20.54 | mm_ | hi! i need installation support for an h2210 device |