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| 02:27.22 | Xenophod | Anyone awake still? |
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| 02:27.30 | Xenophod | I'll be here until midnight |
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| 02:37.16 | stickster | Xenophod: I'm around for a little while, hitting the hay soon |
| 02:37.33 | Xenophod | sweet |
| 02:37.47 | Xenophod | I'm just sitting here at work... |
| 02:39.16 | Xenophod | cool! |
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| 02:40.06 | stickster | Well, it will be if I get it working... not an experienced developer but I'm learning |
| 02:42.04 | Xenophod | yeah, me either |
| 02:42.15 | Xenophod | I can sorta script, but nothing major |
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| 02:55.07 | stickster | Python is the only way to go to learn this stuff |
| 02:55.21 | stickster | You can springboard to just about anything else when done |
| 02:55.32 | stickster | http://diveintopython.com/ -- free book, one of the best I've read |
| 02:55.50 | Xenophod | awesome |
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| 03:41.25 | IrishW0lf | Xenophod: how are you? Looks like a quiet night. |
| 03:41.42 | Xenophod | Doing good, yeah, pretty quite |
| 03:42.11 | IrishW0lf | do you know much about cups and printing? |
| 03:42.28 | Xenophod | nope |
| 03:42.40 | IrishW0lf | darn |
| 03:42.41 | Xenophod | back when my mac os x was running |
| 03:42.45 | Xenophod | I installed something |
| 03:42.52 | Xenophod | hehe |
| 03:42.57 | Xenophod | that's all I can recall |
| 03:42.58 | Xenophod | haha |
| 03:44.06 | IrishW0lf | well ok, having trouble printing. Keeps asking me for authorization password, and i can't figure out where it is coming from |
| 03:46.17 | IrishW0lf | tried all the passwords i use and none work |
| 03:47.33 | IrishW0lf | well i'll have to do some more research. tallk to you later. |
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| 13:43.24 | stickster | Note to anybody running FC6 with new kernel 2.6.19-1.2895.fc6 on dual-core laptop: Add a quick script to /etc/pm/hooks/ to stop cpuspeed service before suspend, reenable on resume |
| 13:49.19 | jsmith | stickster: Not all of us are cool enought to have dual-core laptops :-( |
| 13:49.55 | stickster | I can assure you cool has nothing to do with it, otherwise I wouldn't have one either :-D |
| 13:53.11 | jsmith | I have noticed a particularly annoying bug with my laptop and the latest kernel, though |
| 13:53.17 | jsmith | (and I should really report it as a bug) |
| 13:53.50 | jsmith | If I come out of suspend without the power plugged in, my laptop thinks they battery is about to die and so it decides it's time to shutdown the machine. :-( |
| 13:58.07 | stickster | jsmith: hmm |
| 13:58.17 | stickster | jsmith: Is this FC6? |
| 13:58.21 | jsmith | Yes |
| 13:58.24 | jsmith | On PPC |
| 13:58.29 | stickster | There was a similar problem with gnome-power-manager some time ago, but I thought it was licked |
| 13:58.39 | stickster | I'm not sure about PPC since I don't have any of those arch of my own :-( |
| 13:58.58 | jsmith | Probably has to do with the fact that the power controller on Apple hardware takes a while for it to calculate the remaining power after coming out of standby |
| 13:59.55 | stickster | Yes, there was some sort of delay like that for i386 back in FC5 that was a problem for some time |
| 14:00.15 | stickster | When you tried to resume from suspend, it would suddenly re-suspend :-D |
| 14:00.32 | jsmith | Now, instead of re-suspending, it shuts down |
| 14:01.00 | jsmith | There are two or three things I should file as bugs, but I'm lazy |
| 14:01.26 | jsmith | (plus, I'm not 100% sure how much I'mm helping by report bugs, or if I'm just tying up resources that are better spent elsewhere) |
| 14:02.30 | stickster | jsmith: Bug filing is *ALWAYS* good |
| 14:02.47 | stickster | There are plenty of people who can close it if it's a duplicate or whatever |
| 14:02.55 | jsmith | OK. |
| 14:03.12 | jsmith | If I get a few free minutes this morning, I'll file a couple of bugs |
| 14:03.35 | stickster | What you can do for now... hm.... I think I remember a specific setting somewhere in here |
| 14:04.29 | stickster | Aha |
| 14:04.39 | stickster | jsmith: Do you have the gconf-editor RPM installed? |
| 14:04.54 | jsmith | Most likely--let me check |
| 14:05.09 | stickster | It would be under Apps -> Tools -> Configuration Editor. |
| 14:05.11 | stickster | Under /apps/gnome-power/manager, look for the "policy_suppression_timeout" setting |
| 14:05.52 | jsmith | Funny... I haven't yet had to install it under FC6 |
| 14:05.56 | stickster | heh |
| 14:05.59 | jsmith | I guess that's a good thing, right?!? |
| 14:06.04 | stickster | Yer darn tootin' |
| 14:06.12 | jsmith | I *know* I had to change all kinds of things on FC5 |
| 14:06.15 | stickster | Means nothing had to be tweaked to make you happy -- until now that is |
| 14:06.19 | stickster | jsmith: +1, me too |
| 14:07.49 | stickster | I would say, double the current value to see if that helps |
| 14:08.11 | jsmith | OK... it's set to 5 seconds, I'll change it to 10 |
| 14:08.13 | stickster | Mine is set to 5 sec and I haven't done anything to it AFAIK |
| 14:11.07 | jsmith | OK, do those changes take place immediately, or do I have to kick something to make it re-read them |
| 14:11.11 | jsmith | (I can never remember) |
| 14:13.10 | stickster | jsmith: I think gconf stuff happens right away |
| 14:13.24 | stickster | Try to do the switcheroo and see what happens, I'll be around |
| 14:14.19 | jsmith | OK, here goes nothing. |
| 14:14.31 | jsmith | Hmmmmn... bug #1 |
| 14:14.41 | jsmith | I've got it set to "interactive" if I push the power button. |
| 14:14.51 | jsmith | I push the power button, and the gnome-power-applet disappears :-( |
| 14:15.53 | jsmith | gnome-power-manager, that is |
| 14:20.35 | stickster | hmm |
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| 14:21.18 | stickster | (BZ might contain bugs against gnome-power-manager for some of these things, worth a look-see) |
| 14:21.33 | stickster | For FC6 look for bug numbers probably > 210000 |
| 14:23.06 | jsmith | OK, suspend worked (but XChat got in a funk after coming back up) |
| 14:23.12 | jsmith | Let's try hibernate |
| 14:23.16 | jsmith | ~zap jsmith |
| 14:25.16 | jsmith | infobot: wake up! |
| 14:25.18 | infobot | jsmith: I'm already awake! :) |
| 14:25.26 | jsmith | infobot: zap jsmith |
| 14:25.36 | jsmith | infobot: wake jsmith |
| 14:25.55 | jsmith | ~cookie |
| 14:26.02 | jsmith | What's wrong with infobot this morning? |
| 14:26.23 | jsmith | OK, time to suspend |
| 14:26.28 | jsmith | s/suspend/hibernate/ |
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| 14:30.18 | jsmith | And I'm back |
| 14:30.28 | jsmith | Hibernate worked this time too... |
| 14:32.06 | jsmith | ~friday |
| 14:32.07 | infobot | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 14:40.58 | stickster | infobot: you suck |
| 14:41.00 | infobot | no, *you* suck! |
| 14:41.03 | stickster | heh |
| 14:41.27 | stickster | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.01 | jsmith | I warned you ;-) |
| 14:42.09 | jsmith | ~jarjar |
| 14:43.32 | jsmith | Bugzilla Bug 224564: Brightness keys don't adjust LCD brightness on PowerBook G4 |
| 14:49.43 | stickster | jsmith: Would this help? http://pbbuttons.berlios.de/ |
| 14:50.00 | jsmith | Been there, done that. |
| 14:50.03 | stickster | ah |
| 14:50.14 | jsmith | I've even re-worked the SPEC file to work on FC6 |
| 14:50.18 | stickster | hrm |
| 14:50.34 | jsmith | But Dave Woodhouse (in his excellent wisdom) said that Fedora should support it without pbbuttonsd |
| 14:50.40 | jsmith | and that if it didn't, it was abug |
| 14:50.45 | jsmith | s/abug/a bug/ |
| 14:51.51 | stickster | I agree completely |
| 14:54.45 | jsmith | Same thing for the keyboard backlight |
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| 15:45.26 | plarsen | hey guys |
| 15:53.55 | jsmith | Hey plarsen |
| 15:55.29 | plarsen | hey jsmith; so you're scouting tomorrow for sure huh? |
| 15:56.28 | jsmith | Yeah... we're having a "freeze out" tonight |
| 15:56.44 | jsmith | I might be able to sneak away early enough in the morning, but I won't know until morning |
| 15:57.36 | plarsen | :) |
| 15:57.48 | plarsen | Does anyone have an idea of what we should bring tomorrow? |
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| 16:10.41 | stickster | plarsen: I definitely have a projector |
| 16:10.59 | jsmith | quigleymd! |
| 16:11.04 | stickster | I would say, bring a power strip and/or ext. cord if you have one, plus a laptop if possible |
| 16:11.09 | jsmith | ~welcome quigleymd |
| 16:11.16 | stickster | New guys will bring whatever they've got, I suppose |
| 16:11.30 | stickster | I'm going to see if I can't get in a little early for setup |
| 16:11.35 | stickster | I doubt anyone has the room before us :-) |
| 16:11.40 | jsmith | If I make it, I'll bring a laptop (setup for pxe booting and network installs) and a power strip or two |
| 16:11.51 | jsmith | I doubt they open any earlier |
| 16:12.16 | stickster | Maybe if anyone has a 4- or 8-port hub, that would be good I guess |
| 16:14.38 | stickster | We should definitely plan to break down at 10:45 or so, to make sure group after us isn't left waiting |
| 16:14.47 | stickster | If there is indeed such a group ;-) |
| 16:43.21 | plarsen | stickster, no laptop with linux unfortunately; not yet |
| 16:43.33 | plarsen | stickster, I have a desktop - mini - with vmware running on it. |
| 16:43.44 | plarsen | stickster, I got a bunch of cat5 cables I can bring |
| 16:52.02 | plarsen | stickster, I have an 8 port 10/100 switch with a one bad port (7 ports available). I'll bring that. |
| 16:52.47 | plarsen | Well, I think part of the problem is a short 2 hour window for a meeting. Before everyone gets settled etc. we only have 90 minutes left. |
| 17:26.30 | stickster | Yes, I wish the library gave us more time |
| 17:26.46 | stickster | We could try to find a venue with a longer lease period at some point |
| 17:27.16 | stickster | Alternately, we could adjourn to some other location to do the part where we all haul out equipment and work on it |
| 17:46.55 | jsmith | stickster: Eventually, I'll have my "Linux Retreat" done, and we can do it there. |
| 17:47.23 | jsmith | stickster: But first I've gotta get electricity to the barn, find a good way of getting equipment up into the barn, etc. |
| 18:12.04 | plarsen | Another thing, if the "crowd" isn't larger than 5-6 people at least here in the beginning I have a a large enough office with conference table etc. for all of us. |
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