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02:14.43plarsenstickster: did you say that you'd used postgress ?
02:56.23sticksterNope... I've used Oracle a bit, but mostly MySQL
03:23.35plarsenOhhh, I thought it was you who was suggesting a session on comparing databases on linux ... well, my mistake ;)
03:33.29sticksterI think it was that other gentleman who showed up at the last night meeting
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15:36.09plarsenGood morning
15:40.58jsmithGood morning plarsen
15:53.20plarsenGot any ideas for an agenda for the next meeting?
16:10.31jsmithI like the database idea... and I'm happy to help present it
16:22.54plarsenYeah I think we're 3-4 people in the group that may apprechiate that subject. On the other hand, I think we'll loose the rest. It seems we're sorta a group of extreems - in the sense of experience.
16:26.20jsmithWell, I think we should alternate... have some meetings on advanced topics, and some meetings on easy topics.
16:26.35jsmithWe'll lose some people on both extremes, but that's OK.
16:26.43jsmithWe don't expect every person to attend every meeting.
16:27.28plarsenI agree; and I like Pauls idea but not on "fixed" days. Whatever there's backing for. Too many "beginner" subjects and I know I'll get borred too. So we have to keep it interesting.
16:27.31plarsenFor everyone
16:28.44IrishW0lf_afkeven on more advanced subjects, it stimulates the mind, even for novices and newbi's
16:30.14IrishW0lf_afkjust happened to pop in for a minute, but have to leave again.  databases pertaing to linux would be good, as well as web development and other stuff
16:30.22plarsenWell, I could certainly do an Oracle one ;)  I've used mysql very little, and postgress not at all ...
16:31.14IrishW0lf_afki didn't realize that postgress was a database app, hadden't even heard of it
16:32.12IrishW0lf_afki'm still stuck on dBase III+
16:32.46IrishW0lf_afkbut haven't  programed in it for years
16:33.02IrishW0lf_afkgot to run, bbl
16:33.20IrishW0lf_afkhave to give a cat a bath
16:33.23IrishW0lf_afklol
16:40.25plarsenFor $500-600 what laptop would you recommend for Linux?  I may bite the bullet soon and get myself a linux based laptop on my own, instead of keep posponding when I "violate" my only window machine, the company laptop and install linux on it.
16:40.36plarsenBut I don't think I'll start on the deep end first.
16:55.31jsmithThe dells tend to have pretty good Linux support, as do the IBMs
16:55.38jsmithI'd be wary of any other brands
17:03.17plarsenI sorta like the dells too; but their battery life is awful :(
17:04.23plarsenThe one dell (D800) I have now, has had everything but the keyboard replaced. And the print on several of the keys is gone ;)
17:04.44IrishW0lfOn one of the lists, i saw people recommending HP hardware
17:05.45IrishW0lfI have a compaq my self and it seem's to have addapted very well
17:06.53IrishW0lfplarsen: touch typing, eh
17:14.08plarsenthat or poisions fingers ;)
17:14.24plarsenhave it happen to several of my keyboards and even phones.
17:15.02plarsenI had a philips remote (TV) back in Denmark in the mid 90'es were most of the print on the buttons disappeared within a year. they exchanged it to a new one, but the next year the print was gone again :)
17:15.21plarsens/were/where/
17:17.08IrishW0lfinfobot seems to be very good at correction
17:17.34plarsenlol
17:17.50IrishW0lflaughter is good
17:19.15IrishW0lfbtw, apparently my problems with disconnect was due to either a faulty keyboard or the loose connection with the keyboard.  I switched keyboards and haven't had any more problems
17:20.28plarsencool. Nice to see your bios had the same issue ;) Makes it easier to diagnose when you can pull a whole OS out of the equation ;)
17:20.55IrishW0lfyeah, it sure does
17:21.57IrishW0lfthanks to you.  I would have been working on that problem for a long time with out your suggestions
17:23.57plarsenwell, that's my forte - trouble shooting.
17:24.08IrishW0lfbut, is it leagal to use a MS ergonomic keyboard when running a linux system <g>
17:24.12plarsenI seem to break things up into small pieces easily ...
17:24.42plarsenhehe; well I got a danish version of that - 15 years old now, but still working :)  If you want to have fun and not know where your keys are, let me know ;)
17:24.51plarsenIts sitting in a box somewhere
17:24.58plarsennot been used since I got the us.
17:26.00IrishW0lfthat's ok, i guess i could remap this kb in dainish
17:26.44IrishW0lfs/dainish/danish
17:27.28IrishW0lfwell i guess infobot doesn't like me
17:27.55jsmithIrishW0lf: If you go with the HP/Compaq hardware, make sure the model number begins with "nc"
17:28.18jsmithinfobot: wake up
17:28.19infobotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
17:28.38IrishW0lfjsmith: what is the "nc" designation
17:29.06jsmithIt's their business line of laptops (I love the nc6230), as oppposed to their home/consumer line.
17:29.19jsmithIf the model doesn't start with "nc", avoid it like the plague
17:31.50IrishW0lfok, mine is a presario 1500 mod P1516, but then i got it with winxp installed at a good price
17:32.29jsmithYeah... I've had nothing but problems with Linux compatibillity on the non-nc models
17:32.39plarsenIrishW0lf, well, you could - but there's a few more keys on a danish keyboard ;)
17:33.22IrishW0lfyou all are real talkers, eh
17:33.42IrishW0lflol
17:34.51IrishW0lfjsmith: well luckilly, i guess, i have had no problems thus far running suse 10.2
17:35.28IrishW0lfi even was able to configure the wireless pcmia card with little effort
17:37.29IrishW0lfreal test will be when i have to take it out to the field to image hard drives
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