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21:26.43 | jsmith | quigleymd_work! |
21:26.47 | jsmith | quigleymd_work: How goes it? |
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22:16.12 | nombyte | hey is anyone active in here right now I need a little help |
22:18.51 | jsmith | (then I've gotta go teach a bunch of scouts how to tie a bowline) |
22:21.06 | nombyte | ok |
22:21.45 | nombyte | I tried to self compile the .20 kernel again. The first time I did it great but this time I tried to skim it down... I think I took something out and now it is very slow compared to the default kernel that comes with fc6 |
22:22.31 | nombyte | I don't know how to get it fixed |
22:23.20 | jsmith | Did you save the .config file from the old kernel, so you can compare it to the new one? |
22:23.56 | nombyte | I still have the old kernel on the machine but there isn't a way to look at both at the same time and I dont know what half the stuff is anyway >< |
22:24.45 | nombyte | I really wanted to do virtualization and had good success with kvm the first time. |
22:24.56 | nombyte | xen didn't work for me and I don't want to pay for vmware. |
22:25.06 | nombyte | are there any other options that wont make me go through this? |
22:25.20 | jsmith | Sure... download the latest Fedora kernel from Rawhide |
22:25.26 | jsmith | Xen should work, KVM should work |
22:25.30 | jsmith | Problem solved |
22:26.09 | nombyte | Id rather not use xen because I couldn't get my wifi bridge over and xen made my ethernet disapear |
22:26.33 | nombyte | and i couldn't get windows intsalled in it |
22:26.59 | nombyte | oh and in xen I always saw two mice |
22:27.20 | jsmith | Xen made your ethernet disappear? |
22:27.26 | nombyte | ya completely |
22:27.45 | nombyte | eth0 on my laptop and eth0 and eth1 on my desktop |
22:28.11 | jsmith | I've never had a problem w/ it. |
22:28.28 | nombyte | i think it replaced them with a b44 device instead of broadcom |
22:28.39 | nombyte | and when ever i did ifup eth0 |
22:28.43 | nombyte | it said device wasn't there |
22:29.05 | jsmith | Strange... Xen will *add* devices, but shouldn't change any existing ones |
22:29.22 | nombyte | that was very discouraging |
22:30.57 | nombyte | what do you think I should do? |
22:35.25 | nombyte | I can use the old .config file but not all the options are the same and after I do that iptables doesn't work |
22:35.42 | nombyte | do u think you can help me get xen working? |
22:39.46 | jsmith | I can't right now... I've gotta run. |
22:39.59 | nombyte | ok have fun |
22:39.59 | jsmith | And to be honest, I haven't rolled my own kernel in about 6 months. |
22:40.08 | nombyte | did yours always work? |
22:40.15 | nombyte | if so what did u do for config use the old one? |
22:40.51 | nombyte | ill use a pre-compiled kernel if you can help me get xen working |
22:40.53 | stickster_work | nombyte: If you're using the vanilla kernel, keep in mind you could suffer from innumerable other problems -- even though the Fedora kernel is somewhat lightly patched, most of them are important to keeping things like Xen running |
22:41.02 | jsmith | I took the Fedora .config and tweaked it |
22:41.09 | jsmith | That's always worked for me |
22:41.20 | jsmith | Getting Xen working with a vanilla kernel is above my pay grade |
22:41.25 | stickster_work | Dave Jones spends a HUGE amount of time keeping Xen in line with the shipping kernel, since the Xen maintainers can't keep up |
22:41.33 | stickster_work | And he is a kernel god |
22:42.18 | nombyte | its just frustrating cause the first time i made this kernel it was normal speed |
22:42.24 | nombyte | now it is slower then a snail |
22:42.39 | nombyte | vmware i have to pay for |
22:42.42 | stickster_work | What are you hoping to gain from rolling the vanilla kernel? |
22:42.51 | nombyte | virtualization is all I want |
22:42.59 | stickster_work | You don't need to reroll the kernel for that. |
22:43.32 | stickster_work | Just do 'yum groupinstall "Xen"' |
22:43.36 | nombyte | i tried the external modules for kvm and when I inserted them into the kernel it said error it couldn't do that then my whole machine was messed up |
22:43.40 | stickster_work | There's a Xen kernel already available in the repos |
22:43.48 | nombyte | ya but xen |
22:43.57 | nombyte | took away my eth ports |
22:44.02 | nombyte | gave me double mouse on everything |
22:44.04 | stickster_work | Using the default kernel-xen package? |
22:44.12 | nombyte | and i couldn't figure how to bridge my wireless over |
22:44.13 | stickster_work | The double mouse thing is a known bug, it's being worked on |
22:44.26 | stickster_work | Were you using the default kernel-xen package? |
22:44.29 | nombyte | ya the default took my eth ports away |
22:44.37 | stickster_work | Did you file a bug? |
22:44.51 | nombyte | no i thought thats how it was suppose to work |
22:44.56 | nombyte | and just didn't for me |
22:45.00 | stickster_work | Not really :-) |
22:45.50 | stickster_work | I have to bug, time to get a beer with work buddies |
22:45.53 | nombyte | ya xenbr and the lo and wlan0 were all there plus a few others from xen but all the eth were gone |
22:46.01 | nombyte | ok |
22:46.19 | stickster_work | You should bring this to the next LUG mtg |
22:46.21 | stickster_work | We'll look at it |
22:46.23 | stickster_work | bbiab |
22:46.27 | nombyte | guess I'll do another reinstall |
22:46.51 | nombyte | ok so this time I'll go ahead and install xen and keep it till we can all look at it |