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21:26.43jsmithquigleymd_work!
21:26.47jsmithquigleymd_work: How goes it?
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22:16.12nombytehey is anyone active in here right now I need a little help
22:18.51jsmith(then I've gotta go teach a bunch of scouts how to tie a bowline)
22:21.06nombyteok
22:21.45nombyteI tried to self compile the .20 kernel again.  The first time I did it great but this time I tried to skim it down...   I think I took something out and now it is very slow compared to the default kernel that comes with fc6
22:22.31nombyteI don't know how to get it fixed
22:23.20jsmithDid you save the .config file from the old kernel, so you can compare it to the new one?
22:23.56nombyteI still have the old kernel on the machine but there isn't a way to look at both at the same time and I dont know what half the stuff is anyway ><
22:24.45nombyteI really wanted to do virtualization and had good success with kvm the first time.
22:24.56nombytexen didn't work for me and I don't want to pay for vmware.
22:25.06nombyteare there any other options that wont make me go through this?
22:25.20jsmithSure... download the latest Fedora kernel from Rawhide
22:25.26jsmithXen should work, KVM should work
22:25.30jsmithProblem solved
22:26.09nombyteId rather not use xen because I couldn't get my wifi bridge over and xen made my ethernet disapear
22:26.33nombyteand i couldn't get windows intsalled in it
22:26.59nombyteoh and in xen I always saw two mice
22:27.20jsmithXen made your ethernet disappear?
22:27.26nombyteya completely
22:27.45nombyteeth0 on my laptop and eth0 and eth1 on my desktop
22:28.11jsmithI've never had a problem w/ it.
22:28.28nombytei think it replaced them with a b44 device instead of broadcom
22:28.39nombyteand when ever i did ifup eth0
22:28.43nombyteit said device wasn't there
22:29.05jsmithStrange... Xen will *add* devices, but shouldn't change any existing ones
22:29.22nombytethat was very discouraging
22:30.57nombytewhat do you think I should do?
22:35.25nombyteI can use the old .config file but not all the options are the same and after I do that iptables doesn't work
22:35.42nombytedo u think you can help me get xen working?
22:39.46jsmithI can't right now... I've gotta run.
22:39.59nombyteok have fun
22:39.59jsmithAnd to be honest, I haven't rolled my own kernel in about 6 months.
22:40.08nombytedid yours always work?
22:40.15nombyteif so what did u do for config use the old one?
22:40.51nombyteill use a pre-compiled kernel if you can help me get xen working
22:40.53stickster_worknombyte: If you're using the vanilla kernel, keep in mind you could suffer from innumerable other problems -- even though the Fedora kernel is somewhat lightly patched, most of them are important to keeping things like Xen running
22:41.02jsmithI took the Fedora .config and tweaked it
22:41.09jsmithThat's always worked for me
22:41.20jsmithGetting Xen working with a vanilla kernel is above my pay grade
22:41.25stickster_workDave Jones spends a HUGE amount of time keeping Xen in line with the shipping kernel, since the Xen maintainers can't keep up
22:41.33stickster_workAnd he is a kernel god
22:42.18nombyteits just frustrating cause the first time i made this kernel it was normal speed
22:42.24nombytenow it is slower then a snail
22:42.39nombytevmware i have to pay for
22:42.42stickster_workWhat are you hoping to gain from rolling the vanilla kernel?
22:42.51nombytevirtualization is all I want
22:42.59stickster_workYou don't need to reroll the kernel for that.
22:43.32stickster_workJust do 'yum groupinstall "Xen"'
22:43.36nombytei tried the external modules for kvm and when I inserted them into the kernel it said error it couldn't do that then my whole machine was messed up
22:43.40stickster_workThere's a Xen kernel already available in the repos
22:43.48nombyteya but xen
22:43.57nombytetook away my eth ports
22:44.02nombytegave me double mouse on everything
22:44.04stickster_workUsing the default kernel-xen package?
22:44.12nombyteand i couldn't figure how to bridge my wireless over
22:44.13stickster_workThe double mouse thing is a known bug, it's being worked on
22:44.26stickster_workWere you using the default kernel-xen package?
22:44.29nombyteya the default took my eth ports away
22:44.37stickster_workDid you file a bug?
22:44.51nombyteno i thought thats how it was suppose to work
22:44.56nombyteand just didn't for me
22:45.00stickster_workNot really :-)
22:45.50stickster_workI have to bug, time to get a beer with work buddies
22:45.53nombyteya xenbr and the lo and wlan0 were all there plus a few others from xen but all the eth were gone
22:46.01nombyteok
22:46.19stickster_workYou should bring this to the next LUG mtg
22:46.21stickster_workWe'll look at it
22:46.23stickster_workbbiab
22:46.27nombyteguess I'll do another reinstall
22:46.51nombyteok so this time I'll go ahead and install xen and keep it till we can all look at it

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