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| 03:42.44 | nombyte | infobot: what is cron |
| 03:42.47 | infobot | nombyte: what are you talking about? |
| 03:43.17 | nombyte | infobot: what is glutine |
| 03:43.19 | infobot | nombyte: I think you lost me on that one |
| 03:44.21 | nombyte | infobot: what is school |
| 03:44.24 | infobot | nombyte: what are you talking about? |
| 03:44.45 | nombyte | infobot: what is the definition of school |
| 03:44.47 | infobot | I think you lost me on that one, nombyte |
| 03:48.15 | nombyte | list infobot |
| 03:48.26 | nombyte | infobot: list |
| 03:48.32 | infobot | one warez list being sent |
| 03:48.32 | nombyte | infobot: list infobot |
| 03:48.43 | nombyte | -_- |
| 03:49.44 | nombyte | infobot: commands |
| 03:49.49 | nombyte | infobot: ? |
| 03:49.54 | nombyte | infobot: help |
| 03:51.33 | nombyte | infobot: where is yuminstall |
| 03:51.35 | infobot | nombyte: what are you talking about? |
| 03:51.44 | nombyte | infobot: where is yuminstall* |
| 03:51.46 | infobot | nombyte: what are you talking about? |
| 03:54.37 | nombyte | infobot: uptime |
| 03:55.31 | nombyte | infobot: md5 nombyte |
| 03:57.25 | nombyte | infobot: seen yuminstall* |
| 03:57.48 | infobot | nombyte: i haven't seen 'yuminstall*' |
| 03:58.00 | nombyte | infobot: seen nomb |
| 03:58.04 | infobot | nomb <n=nomb@c-71-62-232-167.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #fredlug, 4d 4h 37m 25s ago, saying: 'stickster: windows installation under qemu even with kvm is slow...'. |
| 03:58.28 | nombyte | infobot: seen yuminstall |
| 03:58.30 | infobot | yuminstall <n=Aaron@ip68-105-190-133.dc.dc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #fredlug, 7d 1h 34m 2s ago, saying: 'I need to know if the respin of FC6 would repair a miffed up myth box that has the 2911 kernel'. |
| 04:00.10 | nombyte | infobot: dict dodecahedron |
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| 15:44.39 | stickster | seen quigleymd |
| 15:44.43 | stickster | oops |
| 15:44.46 | stickster | ~seen quigleymd |
| 15:45.12 | infobot | quigleymd <n=Matt@24-53-142-5-st.chvlva.adelphia.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #fredlug, 10d 21h 49m 32s ago, saying: 'so anyway, beware of ice dams!'. |
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| 15:50.39 | jsmith | stickster: I may be out and about shopping today (my wife is in *that mood*) |
| 15:50.46 | stickster | Ah |
| 15:51.01 | stickster | OK, not a problem... got plenty to do around here anyway (as usual) :-) |
| 15:51.04 | jsmith | stickster: So do you mind calling me on my cell before you come this direction, just to make sure? |
| 15:51.11 | stickster | Sure, I got your number from your PM |
| 15:51.12 | jsmith | I'd hate to have you go out of your way if I'm not here |
| 15:51.15 | jsmith | Perfect |
| 15:51.18 | stickster | thanks |
| 15:51.37 | stickster | I wouldn't be able to make it out there until after lunch, likely |
| 15:51.55 | stickster | jsmith: Do you have 2 min. right now for a quick update? |
| 15:52.02 | stickster | I was thinking about the PDF problem and doing a little looking around |
| 15:52.03 | jsmith | Sure! |
| 15:52.09 | stickster | I didn't know if you were familiar with python-reportlab already |
| 15:52.13 | jsmith | Nope |
| 15:52.17 | jsmith | Never heard of it |
| 15:52.29 | stickster | It's a very cool library for producing PDFs using an XML schema called RML |
| 15:52.40 | jsmith | The only Python programming I've ever done was for Chapter 9 in my book |
| 15:52.47 | jsmith | Interesting... |
| 15:52.49 | stickster | Meaning that with the right XSLT you could simply transform DocBook into RML, and then render that into PDF via ReportLab |
| 15:53.00 | stickster | Simple, flexible, highly customizable in terms of appearance |
| 15:53.07 | jsmith | Nice... so now I need to learn XSLT *and* Python ;-) |
| 15:53.11 | jsmith | Nice... |
| 15:53.21 | jsmith | I really need an excuse to play around with it... |
| 15:53.22 | stickster | I am trying to run that idea "up the flagpole" at Fedora to see if I can induce someone to take this to SoC |
| 15:53.37 | stickster | The XSLT is probably not trivial, but it's also far from an impossible task |
| 15:53.45 | stickster | It's just "real work," which explains why no one's done it yet :-D |
| 15:54.00 | jsmith | Work shmurk... |
| 15:54.08 | stickster | Heh... |
| 15:54.20 | jsmith | I'm gonna spend some time looking at XSLT today anyway, so I'll give it a shot and see what I find. |
| 15:54.24 | stickster | If you're curious you could check out the ReportLab pages, just to see how capable it is |
| 15:54.32 | jsmith | Besides, I'll bet somebody out there has already thought of it |
| 15:54.43 | jsmith | There's gotta be people smarter than you and I out there ;-) |
| 15:54.57 | stickster | yeah, lots of folks have *thought* about it, but unfortunately no one wants to put the time in for the XSLT work |
| 15:55.10 | stickster | XSLT can be... demanding :-) |
| 15:55.18 | jsmith | Well, anything that would cover *all* of DocBook would be a nightmare |
| 15:55.24 | stickster | True dat |
| 15:55.27 | jsmith | But I'll get we could cover the basic tags |
| 15:55.31 | jsmith | without too much trouble |
| 15:55.43 | jsmith | s/get/bet/ |
| 15:55.49 | stickster | If I can find the time today I was going to just do a couple simple tests to see what I can get out of an example FDP doc |
| 15:56.01 | jsmith | Sounds cool... |
| 15:56.08 | jsmith | Let me know... maybe we can collaborate |
| 15:56.19 | stickster | My hackery skills in this area are... >ahem< below par. |
| 15:56.28 | jsmith | (sounds funner than adding descriptions and examples to 51 Asterisk Manager Interface actions) |
| 15:56.32 | stickster | ha! |
| 15:56.45 | stickster | and *definitely* more fun than doing two more chapters of this book review. :-) |
| 15:57.14 | stickster | All right, just wanted to run that by you.... now back to regularly scheduled labor |
| 15:57.26 | stickster | +1 on the collaboration, BTW, in case that wasn't clear :-D |
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| 16:09.50 | jsmith | stickster: Any chance all the required bits are in Extras (or another repo)? |
| 16:10.20 | stickster | jsmith: Sure, python-reportlab is in Extras |
| 16:10.26 | stickster | Sweetness... |
| 16:12.21 | stickster | jsmith: There's no binary included, IIRC -- just the Python libraries. But that part shouldn't be too terribly hard, and I think the docs on the site give some guidance for that as well |
| 16:13.14 | jsmith | s/NO/NOW/ |
| 16:13.23 | jsmith | Sorry... just had to get that out |
| 16:13.30 | jsmith | If it's not packaged, it's not real |
| 16:13.40 | jsmith | If it's not covered in an O'Reilly book, it's not mature |
| 16:26.47 | stickster | heh |
| 16:29.21 | stickster | jsmith: Hey, which LiveCD did you need? i386 or ppC? |
| 16:29.33 | jsmith | Both? |
| 16:29.39 | jsmith | (Is that asking too much?) |
| 16:29.56 | jsmith | I'm really at your mercy, so either one is fine. |
| 16:30.08 | jsmith | I'd even take x86_64, if that's what you've got on hand |
| 16:30.16 | stickster | I only d/l'd the i386 one... but let me see how the torrents are doing |
| 16:30.47 | stickster | heh, yeah, that's the ticket.. |
| 16:30.59 | jsmith | I have one you're welcome to use |
| 16:31.13 | jsmith | Since my monitor for it is in storage |
| 16:31.16 | stickster | jsmith: Oops, there is _only_ a LiveCD for i386 |
| 16:31.37 | jsmith | Figures |
| 16:31.46 | stickster | Well "desperately" in this case means, "I really lust after a faster machine and haven't put up the bucks to build/buy one yet." |
| 16:31.58 | jsmith | For some reason, most Linux devs assume that the world runs on i386 |
| 16:32.23 | stickster | http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/stats |
| 16:32.39 | stickster | Did you get smolt for your boxes? |
| 16:32.53 | stickster | Heck, you could raise the ppc stats by, like, 5-10% single-handedly ;-D |
| 16:33.16 | jsmith | I got smolt for my PPC machine |
| 16:33.28 | stickster | jsmith++ |
| 16:33.34 | stickster | ~karma jsmith |
| 16:33.34 | infobot | jsmith has karma of 4 |
| 17:07.31 | jsmith | Mmnnn... smolt doesn't like me today |
| 17:07.46 | jsmith | Send this information to the Smolt server? (y/n) y |
| 17:07.46 | jsmith | Transmitting ... |
| 17:07.46 | jsmith | Server Message: "Critical: Device Read Failed - 4388|0|None|None|ieee1394|Unknown|None|Unknown (0x001124)" |
| 17:20.42 | stickster | hmm |
| 17:21.20 | stickster | Interesting. I know they were working on getting some better vendor/model id stuff integrated with smolt; this may be bugworthy |
| 17:33.12 | jsmith | Added my report to the end of another similar bug |
| 17:33.18 | jsmith | :-) |
| 17:35.12 | stickster | jsmith: Are you around for a bit? Lunch has been accomplished here... |
| 17:35.27 | jsmith | Sure... |
| 17:35.39 | jsmith | I should be here for at least another hour |
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| 23:24.48 | nombyte | hey everyone |