IRC log for #fredlug on 20070403

00:20.11roozihello all
00:20.23sticksterHi roozi
00:24.43jsmithHey roozi
00:46.13roozistickster: what is the command line irc client called that you are using?
00:48.03jsmithirssi, I'll bet
00:49.28sticksterroozi: Yeah, irssi
00:49.41rooziill look it up
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03:44.26nombytestickster: hey there
03:44.49sticksternombyte: I'm heading to bed but I fixed your script.
03:45.01nombytewhat really???
03:45.12sticksternombyte: 1. Every entity in your command line must be separate: "-c", "ARG", "-d", "ARG2"...
03:45.30stickster2. You need to understand which PID to wait for -- the parent waits for the child to exit
03:45.40stickster3. Use the correct options with cryptsetup
03:45.52sticksterI'll post it when I get a chance tomorrow
03:46.04nombyteawsome i can't wait thanks so much :D
03:46.48sticksterSee if you can figure out the problems from the above
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16:36.12doublejoonhello folks
16:38.31jsmithHey doublejoon
16:38.33jsmithWhat's up?
16:39.47doublejoonbeen fighting Dell Perc RAID controllers all night....ugghh
16:41.39jsmithYuck yuck yuck
16:42.15jsmithLet me guess... two different boxes, and each PERC card is built by a different vendor, even though they're the same part number and everything...
16:43.12doublejoonwell I made the mistake of upgrading firmware from 6 versions down.....Perc did not like it
16:43.17doublejoonI learned my lesson
16:43.30doublejoonfrom now on one firmware at a time
16:44.48doublejoonI will have to check on the vendor thing for the Percs. It seems like we have the LSI made PERCS
16:45.01doublejoonbut who knows...could be something else like you said
16:45.24jsmithSome are LSI, some are Adaptec, some are built by other companies as well if I remember
16:46.45doublejoonewww. Now I will have to check them out just to be on the safe side
16:47.18jsmithYup.
17:13.50jsmithstickster_work: Python question for you, since you mentioned process control in Python yesterday
17:13.56jsmithstickster_work: When you've got a second
17:33.51stickster_workjsmith: Hit me
17:34.08jsmith~hit stickster_work
17:34.18infobotACTION punches stickster_work.
17:34.18stickster_workheh
17:34.28jsmithstickster_work: Let's say from my Python code I make an OS call to rsync
17:34.35jsmithstickster_work: Which calls ssh
17:34.53jsmithAnd then my program periodically polls disks space, to make sure the rsync doesn't hog the disk
17:35.08jsmithI'd like to easily be able to kill off the rsync and ssh processes if disk space gets too low
17:35.30jsmithIs there an easy way to get a list of all the processes that the OS call spawned?
17:35.54jsmithI realize that's a lot more in-depth than what you were talking about yesterday, but I thought I'd throw it out
17:36.29stickster_workjsmith: You could use the os.spawn to do it, which returns the PID of the spawned process
17:36.45stickster_workos.exec replaces the current process, which is different
17:37.00jsmith-lunchstickster_work: Right, but then what if the swawned process fires off other processes...
17:37.05stickster_workAha
17:37.24jsmith-lunchSo I use os.swawn to fire off rsync, but it fires off an ssh process, etc.
17:37.49jsmith-lunchI guess if I kill the rsync process it *should* kill off the ssh process as well, but I'm afraid it won't.
17:37.56stickster_workI was just about to ask that
17:38.13stickster_workI would think it would -- ssh is connected to rsync via a pipe and when that end closes, I would think it'd die
17:38.18stickster_workright?
17:38.20stickster_workhm
17:40.35jsmith-lunchDoesn't always happen.
17:40.49jsmith-lunchIt seems sometimes rsync gets set as being owned by pid 1
18:00.01stickster_workjsmith-lunch: sorry, got called away for $DAYJOB
18:00.05stickster_workI will look into this
18:03.23jsmithstickster_work: It's no big deal... I'm mostly just floundering my way through learning some more Python
18:03.40stickster_workI'll be lucky if I'm 1/2-step in front ofyou
18:18.15jsmithstickster_work: While you're thinking about it, you might update the channel topic to have the next couple of meetings on it
18:35.54stickster_workgood call
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18:37.37*** topic/#fredlug by stickster_work -> FredLUG: Fredericksburg (VA) Linux Users Group -=- http://fred-lug.org/ -=- All experience levels warmly welcomed -=- Next Meetings: Tue Apr 17 2007, 7:00pm // Sat Apr 28 2007, 9:00am -=- Mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/fredlug/
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19:40.07jsmithquigleymd_work: When's the next VoIP lunch?
19:40.25jsmithquigleymd_work: Also, if wanna go to the San Jose class, it's filling up fast ;-)
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20:16.42IrishW0lfstickster:  need info on getting to hd on dell latitude laptops
20:19.29sticksterIrishW0lf_bbl: You can't get this on Dell's web site?
20:20.12IrishW0lf_bbllooked, but didn't see
20:20.28sticksterI'm looking at a d620 right now, full info including pictures
20:20.43IrishW0lf_bblthought you might know since you have a dell
20:21.12IrishW0lf_bbli,ll try again
20:23.00sticksterIrishW0lf_bbl: Heh, nope, I've only got IBM/Lenovo :-)
20:23.55sticksterIrishW0lf_bbl: http://support.dell.com/support/systemsinfo/documentation.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~cat=12
20:32.20IrishW0lf_bblstickster:got it, thanks
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22:16.56nombytehello everyone
22:19.19nombytestickster: were you able to post you edited script?
22:20.23jsmithHe came, he went
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22:24.08nombytewhoops lost connection
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23:00.58sticksternombyte: Hey man
23:01.12sticksternombyte: Did you look at some of the stuff I mentioned?
23:01.36sticksterI hate moin.
23:02.06nombytei looked at my code but i think since i have my mindset on what i wrote i can't apply it
23:02.46sticksternombyte: What are you running there?
23:02.51sticksterI mean, distro-wise
23:03.02nombytefc6
23:03.11sticksterDo me a favor and install gobby
23:03.30sticksterWe can walk through some of this online together interactively, it's pretty cool
23:06.50nombyteok
23:07.35sticksternombyte: OK, open up gobby and point it at marilyn.frields.org, default port should be 6522
23:08.06stickster(That is, join session at that host and port)
23:09.38sticksternombyte: Any luck?
23:10.26nombyteone sec
23:10.29nombytetrying it out
23:12.43sticksterThere you are
23:12.48nombytek im in
23:17.40jsmithWhat's gobby?
23:25.14sticksterjsmith: interactive text editor for GNOME
23:25.29jsmithAwesome... installing it now
23:25.36sticksterJust join the session noted above, we'll see ya there
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23:41.32sticksterjsmith: Thanks for dropping by -- not much too it, just a cool app
23:41.43jsmithNo problem.
23:41.49jsmithI'm always up for trying something new
23:41.51sticksters/too/to/
23:42.11sticksterI've used that to demo DocBook XML online for some folks in FDP
23:42.22sticksterNice thing is the chat log you can capture as well
23:42.24jsmithNice...
23:42.25jsmithYeah...
23:42.37jsmithSo, speaking of DocBook.... any word from the tool people?
23:42.40sticksterThere is a "sobby" which is a standalone server, so you can run that headless somewhere
23:42.48jsmithCool
23:43.01sticksterAs far as PDF?  We may have a GSoC'er working on it come May
23:43.15sticksterIt will be DocBook => RML => PDF most likely
23:43.57jsmithCool.
23:43.59sticksterI am a little concerned for the breadth of the schema being handled, but extending whatever we finish up with should be easy enough (I hope)
23:48.39nombytestickster is the man
23:48.56nombyteyou have no idea how crazy that was making me

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