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| 00:17.32 | stickster | nombyte: Answer to Q1: Uh, tons -- PHP, Python, Perl, AJAX, et al..... |
| 00:17.44 | stickster | nombyte: Answer to Q2: What makes you think it isn't installed? How did you come to that conclusion? |
| 00:18.15 | stickster | nombyte: I think you should spend a little time getting to know Google, it's your friend. Really! |
| 00:18.28 | stickster | Google loves you. |
| 00:18.31 | stickster | Google cares for you. |
| 00:18.40 | stickster | Google will be there for you, even when no one else is. |
| 00:18.53 | stickster | Google stayed up late to make sure you got home all right. |
| 00:19.45 | stickster | Google makes you chicken soup when you're sick, and milk and cookies for a midnight snack. |
| 00:20.13 | stickster | Look, Google bought you this cool fleece! |
| 00:20.37 | stickster | Google was right there in front of you the whole time. |
| 00:21.13 | stickster | Google is letting you go because it knows if you come back, you're Google's, and if you don't, you never were. |
| 00:21.47 | stickster | Google made a killing on the stock market and has come back to your hometown to look you up. |
| 00:22.14 | stickster | Google may have a tough exterior, but inside there's a heart of gold. |
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| 00:25.14 | nomb_ | stickster: I really want to improve my website |
| 00:25.27 | nomb_ | make it so i don't have to change the menu on everypage |
| 00:27.20 | nomb_ | easier for me to add articles |
| 00:27.37 | nomb_ | lol maybe change it from being a howto site to something people will actually go to |
| 00:29.03 | nomb_ | stickster: what do you think of my layout? www.nombyte.com |
| 00:29.18 | nomb_ | can someone kick nombyte so i can take my name back |
| 00:35.02 | stickster | nomb_: Have you registered your nick? |
| 00:35.10 | stickster | If so, then just send a message to the nickserv: |
| 00:35.21 | stickster | "/msg nickserv ghost <old_name> <password>" |
| 00:35.27 | nomb_ | my wireless did that thing again so now im on here twice |
| 00:36.10 | nomb_ | cool |
| 00:37.00 | nombyte | what would you recomend as far as the web? |
| 00:37.48 | stickster | nombyte: You probably want a mini-CMS like Drupal |
| 00:37.58 | nombyte | Drupal? What is a mini-CMS? |
| 00:38.10 | stickster | nombyte: See answer #3 above |
| 00:38.17 | nombyte | oh |
| 00:38.27 | nombyte | i already tried joomla and other content managers |
| 00:38.32 | nombyte | id like to build it myself |
| 00:38.40 | nombyte | hence the need for a language |
| 00:38.43 | nombyte | to use |
| 00:38.52 | stickster | That sounds like a waste of time to me, but that's purely my $0.02 |
| 00:39.06 | nombyte | well i just got a web developer job at geico |
| 00:39.11 | nombyte | so i need to learn |
| 00:39.24 | stickster | *chortle |
| 00:39.41 | stickster | You could try something like TurboGears but that's usually more for app buliding |
| 00:39.44 | stickster | *building |
| 00:39.55 | stickster | There are probably things built on TurboGears that would be of interest, though |
| 00:40.03 | stickster | The key is NOT to do it over from scratch yourself. |
| 00:40.12 | stickster | That's the whole point of reusable source. |
| 00:40.14 | nombyte | ok |
| 00:40.23 | nombyte | i agree definately |
| 00:40.33 | stickster | That way you can spend more time on the parts that are really individual to your requirements. |
| 00:40.44 | nombyte | right |
| 00:40.50 | nombyte | what about the language |
| 00:40.57 | nombyte | I really would like to continue with python |
| 00:41.05 | stickster | No reason you can't then. |
| 00:41.08 | nombyte | but when I searched for python on the web |
| 00:41.13 | stickster | TG is biult on Python. |
| 00:41.16 | nombyte | there were a lot of different frameworks |
| 00:41.16 | stickster | So is Drupal. |
| 00:41.20 | stickster | So is Zope. |
| 00:41.26 | stickster | So is... well, you get the idea. |
| 00:41.30 | nombyte | oh |
| 00:41.47 | nombyte | is there something special I will have to do to apache to run python code? |
| 00:42.08 | stickster | Nothing you can't find out how to do on 1M+ web sites |
| 00:42.16 | nombyte | meaning if i go with like drupal |
| 00:42.23 | nombyte | do i still have to install a framework? |
| 00:43.33 | stickster | Many CMS and site-building apps are ready to go out of the box |
| 00:43.41 | stickster | Or they have very simple requirements you can install using yum. |
| 00:43.53 | stickster | Try googling "Fedora <appname>" |
| 00:44.25 | nombyte | do you think it is dumb to learn how to use python on the web? |
| 00:46.47 | roozi | hey all |
| 00:46.54 | stickster | No, lots of folks use Python for web apps |
| 00:47.11 | stickster | One of our admins in Fedora bulit several cool things with Python/TurboGears |
| 00:47.15 | stickster | http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/ |
| 00:47.44 | stickster | Hi roozi |
| 00:48.05 | roozi | how are u stickster |
| 00:48.08 | nombyte | drupal looks like all php and perl |
| 00:48.54 | stickster | nombyte: Yeah, you're right |
| 00:49.22 | stickster | There's a Python CMS |
| 00:49.33 | nombyte | oh but not that one |
| 00:49.40 | nombyte | sorry thought u said drupal was |
| 00:49.43 | stickster | Crap, it's Django I was thinking of, not Drupal |
| 00:49.51 | stickster | D-something :-D |
| 00:49.53 | nombyte | no biggie lol there are so many |
| 00:50.36 | stickster | Pybloxsom... |
| 00:51.36 | nombyte | turbogears isn't in yum? |
| 00:52.20 | stickster | Hmm, Skeletonz looks cool |
| 00:52.36 | stickster | nombyte: Try the yum list like I showed you |
| 00:52.52 | nombyte | oh ya, you'd be proud I used that today |
| 00:52.56 | stickster | sweet |
| 00:59.54 | nombyte | what is apxs, I'm getting an error sayig it isn't found when configuring the mod_python. I tried the yum list *apxs* bo no prevail |
| 01:09.22 | nombyte | wow... turbogears... im in love... <3 |
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| 16:00.08 | nombyte | happy easter everyone |
| 16:23.52 | stickster | Happy Easter! |
| 16:23.58 | stickster | oops, missed everyone |