IRC log for #fredlug on 20070421

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21:03.07nombytestickster: is svn better than yum?
21:03.22sticksternombyte: Huh?
21:04.06sticksterIs indoor plumbing better than rhubarb?
21:04.20sticksterYou're, like, comparing two completely separate and unconnected things.
21:04.31stickster:-)
21:04.49nombyteso i have to downlaod the source recompile and run make uninstall
21:05.20nombytethen i was gonna reinstall from yum but i also have the option of doing svn
21:05.32nombytejust wondering which to do
21:05.59sticksterYou're using a software-managed system.  If you decide to install software outside the management system (i.e. not using RPM/yum), then you need to understand the consequences
21:06.36sticksterTo uninstall, yes, you will have to use the same source you used to install, then do a make uninstall
21:07.01sticksterIf it's installed under /usr/local, sometimes you can simply find and remove it that way.
21:07.34sticksterThis is why people who install manual software generally use "./configure --prefix=/usr/local"
21:07.52sticksterThat's actually the default in most configurations, which helps
21:08.29nombyteso svn is just a way to get the most up-to-date source code and it doesn't let you uninstall any easier?
21:08.37stickstercorrect.
21:08.47nombyteoh, yum it is then. :D
21:08.49stickstersvn is like CVS, git, or mercurial; it's a source code management utility
21:08.56nombyteoh gotcha
21:09.42nombytedid we do a yum list *clam* and found all of them? this time only get clam-milter
21:09.51nombytedid = didn't
21:10.33sticksterYou're searching for anything with the word "clam" in it, so you need to use 'yum list \*clam\*'
21:11.42nombytewierd, what is the difference between *clam* and \*clam\*
21:13.41nombyteguess it kinda means like 'absulute value'
21:14.56sticksternombyte: man yum
21:15.00sticksterIt's a shell glob
21:15.53sticksterthat is, shell-*style* glob
21:16.01sticksterOh, I get it
21:16.12stickstersorry, my IRC client turns anything with stars around it to bold-face
21:16.27sticksterYou mean, what's the difference between "*clam*" and "\*clam\*"?
21:16.32nombyteya
21:16.43sticksternombyte: You have to escape the * to keep the shell from reading it rather than yum
21:16.53nombyteoh gotcha
21:16.57sticksterOtherwise, the bash shell tries to match "*clam*" to anything in the current directory
21:16.58nombytethat makes sense
21:17.02sticksterlike "ls *clam*"
21:17.21nombytei thought u didn't use pms? :D
21:17.31sticksterThis is #fredlug
21:18.03nombyteim lost lol?
21:18.14nombytegood news is i have it installed ^^
21:18.30sticksterIf you do "stickster:" at the front of a line in a public channel, that's a shout, not a PM
21:18.51stickstergood deal
21:18.57sticksterI'm going back to working on release notes then
21:19.52nombyte:D funny thing is that the repositores have  .88 and clamav wants u to have .9 then the functionality level is 10 and they want 15 :D
21:19.57nombyteif u want help let me know
21:21.26sticksterDo you know DocBook XML?
22:11.54quigleymd_afkstickster: docbook schmockbook, go mow your lawn!
22:12.07sticksterquigleymd_afk: ha, my guy came this a.m.
22:12.17sticksterluxury of really bad allergies
22:12.28quigleymd_afkmy guy got of his fat behind and went out this afternoon
22:12.31quigleymd_afkhis name is quigleymd
22:13.04sticksterha!
22:14.22quigleymd_afkstickster: I'll leave you be, I have a leaky threshold to tend to
22:14.29sticksterooo
22:14.30stickstersounds nasty
22:14.36sticksterall-righty then
22:14.43quigleymd_afkor honestly, to look at and then not tend to :p
22:14.59quigleymd_afkhave a good evening :)
22:21.11sticksterquigleymd_afk: You too my friend
22:21.18stickster(delay: wife just got home)

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