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| 14:47.56 | stickster_work | jsmith: Christopher Dale stopped by here at my office |
| 14:50.41 | jsmith | Oh? |
| 16:31.23 | jsmith | stickster_work: w00t! |
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| 22:02.12 | |Carrera | hey whats going on peeps |
| 22:03.47 | |Carrera | are you putting your bib on slickster? |
| 23:02.45 | |Carrera | anyone around? |
| 23:03.01 | |Carrera | who is going to go the meet up? |
| 23:08.37 | stickster | |Carrera: I'll be there tomorrow. |
| 23:08.47 | stickster | Oh wait, you mean the Friday nighter? |
| 23:09.05 | |Carrera | friday nighter? |
| 23:09.14 | |Carrera | i dont know about the friday nighter |
| 23:09.30 | |Carrera | unfort. i wont be able to be there tomorrow i have to work |
| 23:09.41 | |Carrera | but i can make the ones on tues. |
| 23:09.58 | stickster | Yeah, next one is Tues Jul 17 |
| 23:10.20 | stickster | There's a small Linux group that was meeting Friday nights at Borders, for a sec there I thought that's what you were talking about |
| 23:10.36 | |Carrera | nah i didnt know about that |
| 23:10.41 | stickster | I can't go to those because of other obligations (i.e. kids) |
| 23:10.47 | |Carrera | hehe |
| 23:10.58 | |Carrera | i dont have any of those obligations yet ;) |
| 23:11.08 | |Carrera | sats i have to work till 2 |
| 23:11.17 | |Carrera | and tues is the only day i can go |
| 23:11.55 | |Carrera | so much to learn i need to catch up |
| 23:20.17 | |Carrera | hey stickster. which irc client do you use? |
| 23:20.26 | stickster | |Carrera: irssi |
| 23:20.55 | stickster | It's a text client... I run it under "screen" so I can keep it running on my home system all the time, then SSH in and detach/attach to the screen session as needed |
| 23:21.14 | stickster | I have a notification plugin so shouts with my name in them or some other important terms genreate a libnotify popup on my desktop |
| 23:21.32 | |Carrera | wow |
| 23:21.46 | |Carrera | you just lost me |
| 23:22.19 | stickster | |Carrera: haha |
| 23:22.22 | stickster | Well, so it's like this |
| 23:22.39 | |Carrera | so you have the client running at home all the time then you ssh into it to see whats going on. Correct? and then you have it set up to send you an alert if there is anything going on? |
| 23:22.40 | stickster | You know that with SSH, you can remotely connect to a Linux system |
| 23:23.01 | stickster | There's a great program called "screen" that allows you to run multiple "windows" in a single terminal |
| 23:23.26 | stickster | It's useful for situations where you can only use one connection via SSH to a machine, but you need to be able to run multiple shells (or whatever) at one time |
| 23:23.28 | |Carrera | by windows you mean desktops or is this all text based? |
| 23:23.34 | stickster | All text based |
| 23:23.40 | stickster | This is all happening inside a terminal |
| 23:23.44 | |Carrera | ahhh ok i see where you are comming from |
| 23:24.03 | |Carrera | i am used to the gui environment |
| 23:24.06 | stickster | It's like the equivalent of your local Linux box where you can hit Ctrl+Alt+F1, Ctrl+Alt+F2, etc. to go to separate virtual terminals |
| 23:24.28 | stickster | Ctrl+Alt+F7 is where your X (GUI) display runs |
| 23:24.35 | stickster | So anyhoo... |
| 23:24.47 | |Carrera | hehe i hit ctrl alt f1 once and i didnt know what to do once it took me to the out of the gui |
| 23:25.07 | stickster | So with screen, you can SSH in one time in a terminal, but run lots of different virtual terminals, each with different programs |
| 23:25.25 | |Carrera | ahh all using the same ssh connection |
| 23:25.33 | stickster | For example, my default screen session runs irssi, Emacs, and a bash shell |
| 23:25.48 | stickster | I can switch back and forth from one to another using special keystrokes |
| 23:26.04 | |Carrera | emacs, i had to use that for school. but i have used a little bit of vi for work i think i like vi better |
| 23:26.13 | stickster | The *MAJOR* benefit of screen is that it "decouples" your terminal from your actual connection, or keyboard+display |
| 23:26.33 | stickster | So you can "detach" your screen and then disconnect your SSH session |
| 23:26.57 | stickster | Then later you can SSH back in (or sit down at the actual machine, or whatever), and reattach to the "screen" process which is still running |
| 23:27.02 | |Carrera | hmm im not sure im tracking but it def sounds like something i would like to learn more about |
| 23:27.04 | stickster | and you're right back where you were! |
| 23:27.32 | |Carrera | do you work with *nix for a living? |
| 23:28.07 | stickster | More or less |
| 23:28.14 | stickster | It's the tool I use to do my work |
| 23:28.54 | |Carrera | have you learned most of it as a hobby or as a work tool? |
| 23:29.48 | stickster | I've been using Linux since 1997 |
| 23:30.08 | stickster | Tried it for something at work, then started doing it as a hobby because it was cool |
| 23:30.33 | stickster | It quickly became very important for work, and I stuck with it pretty much nonstop for the last 10 years |
| 23:30.40 | |Carrera | yikes i was still in high school learning how to use windows 95 :P |
| 23:30.56 | stickster | yeah, that was around the time I started getting away from Windows |
| 23:31.18 | |Carrera | i started a couple years ago. i installed Suse on my old laptop it was kinda cool but i lost interest |
| 23:31.24 | stickster | Well, after NT4 and pre-Win98 |
| 23:31.46 | |Carrera | i am currently running ubuntu and i have used solaris at work and i am starting to warm up to it |
| 23:31.46 | stickster | It's a steep learning curve but too powerful not to use for lots of technical demands |
| 23:32.14 | stickster | You'll hear this a lot from other people who've been using it for years, but nowadays is _nothing_ like the old days! |
| 23:32.16 | |Carrera | i do like how you can configure many settings |
| 23:32.22 | stickster | Just getting your GUI working was a major triumph |
| 23:32.29 | stickster | Nowadays it's so automagical |
| 23:32.34 | |Carrera | i belive you |
| 23:32.36 | stickster | And you can spend much more time just Getting Work Done |
| 23:32.43 | |Carrera | hahha it is, it just works |
| 23:33.10 | |Carrera | yesterday i tried to send a file from my phone to my pc and it worked without tweaking anything! |
| 23:33.12 | stickster | I think that for the past 6-12 months, Linux has reached a quirky sort of "achievement" |
| 23:33.33 | stickster | In that it is now just about exactly as hard to fix a Linux problem as it is to fix a Windows problem |
| 23:33.56 | |Carrera | i find that linux has a pretty good peer support |
| 23:34.22 | stickster | Right |
| 23:34.31 | stickster | All right, I need to go prep for tomorrow a bt |
| 23:34.34 | stickster | *bit |
| 23:34.40 | |Carrera | alrihgt |
| 23:34.44 | |Carrera | nice talking to you |
| 23:35.02 | |Carrera | see ya july 17 ;) ill pitch in my .02 cents for the topics to be discussed |
| 23:36.01 | stickster | I'll be around here as usual, 'til next time :-) |
| 23:36.37 | |Carrera | k, have fun |