| 00:57.02 | stickster | jsmith: Do you have a SIP I can call you at? |
| 00:57.26 | stickster | I am trying to debug something for a podcast and the guy I'm doing it with has too many interrupts right now |
| 00:58.53 | stickster | Bah, never mind |
| 01:09.20 | jsmith | stickster: Gimme a minute, and yes. |
| 01:09.32 | jsmith | stickster: (Sorry, trying to debug other SIP problems here... gimme a second) |
| 01:30.00 | jsmith | stickster: You still there? |
| 06:41.28 | *** join/#fredlug stickster_ (n=stickste@fedora/stickster) |
| 14:03.21 | *** join/#fredlug jsmith (n=jsmith@adsl-074-228-192-104.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 15:36.03 | jsmith | stickster: You still want to call me over SIP? |
| 15:36.12 | jsmith | stickster: Let me know, and I can arrange a time to make it work. |
| 17:32.15 | *** join/#fredlug plarsen (n=plarsen@208.176.91.226.ptr.us.xo.net) |
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| 17:41.40 | stickster | jsmith: Maybe this afternoon/evening? |
| 17:49.27 | jsmith | Sure... I can probably do it in a couple of hours... I'm just getting ready to teach another module |
| 17:49.36 | jsmith | stickster: I'll ping you when I'm available. |
| 18:04.47 | plarsen | stickster: Ok, I'm probably very slow here. But I'm to bring about 10 copies of the LIVE Fedora 7, i386?? |
| 18:06.45 | plarsen | I downloaded the 64 bit, and I agree that might complicate stuff. And I downloaded the i686 version of Live KDE. Somehow I'm missing the "normal" Live. |
| 18:07.10 | plarsen | But confusion comes from that I needed DVD-Rs?? they fit on CD ISO images as you pointed out; so to make sure my mind isn't playing tricks |
| 18:07.26 | plarsen | I'll bring about 10 Fedora 7 Live CDs - NOT DVDs?? |
| 18:07.35 | plarsen | Do I need to burn som "not live" DVDs ?? |
| 18:08.06 | plarsen | Ohh - that reminds me. Are there Fedora label templates I can use to put on the CDs?? |
| 18:57.39 | stickster | plarsen: Artwork - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArt |
| 18:59.03 | stickster | i686 Live ISOs: http://mirror.hiwaay.net/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Live/i386/ |
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| 19:04.13 | *** topic/#fredlug is FredLUG: Fredericksburg (VA) Linux Users Group -=- http://fredlug.tux.org/ -=- All experience levels warmly welcomed -=- Next Meeting: Tuesday July 17, 2007 - 7:00-9:00pm -=- Mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/fredlug/ |
| 19:35.32 | plarsen | Okie dokie ... so two sets :) |
| 19:35.48 | plarsen | Now I feel like I got my brain back, or what's left of it anyway |
| 19:58.32 | plarsen | Ohh, btw. my company has it's annual picnic on saturday :) It means I gotta dash as soon as it's over :( |
| 20:05.39 | stickster | plarsen: Actually, you really only need to make one set of 7-10 copies of the "standard" Live i686 |
| 20:06.21 | stickster | I advocate doing that only because there is an utter dearth of coverage of KDE in the official docs right now, and we want to maximize the chances that people can find the info they need without a problem off the bat |
| 20:06.50 | jsmith | stickster: See my private message? |
| 20:10.17 | plarsen | if he's on the road, I doubt it :) |
| 20:10.55 | plarsen | stickster: when you get back. I'll make only DVD live copies then. No problem |
| 20:11.06 | plarsen | I just have to find a CD label print program now :) |
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| 20:46.04 | quigleymd_work | sup dudes |
| 21:39.35 | stickster | 'sup quigleymd_work |
| 21:53.03 | quigleymd_work | just workin |
| 21:53.08 | quigleymd_work | gunna let you kids now |
| 21:53.24 | quigleymd_work | all three comp shops i went to were very receptive to hanging the flyer |
| 21:54.02 | quigleymd_work | well, one of them didnt want 'tape on his glass' but he took the flier and said he'd post it |
| 21:55.27 | stickster | quigleymd_work: Sweetness! |
| 21:55.37 | quigleymd_work | most def |
| 21:55.56 | stickster | quigleymd_work: Thanks so much for doing that... I haven't been able to get out anywhere yet |
| 21:56.03 | quigleymd_work | its the LEAST i could do! |
| 21:56.23 | stickster | How did you do the printing? Inkjet/Laserjet 8.5x11 or something else? |
| 21:56.27 | stickster | Anything *fancy*? |
| 21:56.40 | quigleymd_work | not fancy at all, inkjet 8.5x11 |
| 21:56.59 | stickster | all righty then |
| 21:57.09 | quigleymd_work | the best i've got;) |
| 21:57.11 | quigleymd_work | heh |
| 21:57.22 | stickster | No, that's superfantastic man! |
| 21:57.31 | quigleymd_work | :D |
| 21:57.43 | quigleymd_work | are you aware of anything else needed? |
| 21:57.46 | stickster | Aaron had promised some fliers but he has never responded to my emails :-( |
| 21:57.54 | quigleymd_work | per the mauling list, people seem to have CDs nailed down |
| 21:58.05 | stickster | Well, I think we need more helpful people of course |
| 21:58.26 | quigleymd_work | i only get so helpful :p |
| 21:58.26 | quigleymd_work | j/k |
| 21:58.29 | stickster | So far I know that Peter and I will be there, and maybe Marie although she's not too comfortable helping with the installations at this point |
| 21:58.33 | stickster | So you'll be there? |
| 21:58.39 | quigleymd_work | oh yea, sorry |
| 21:58.41 | stickster | BOFFO! |
| 21:58.45 | quigleymd_work | im definitely planning on being there |
| 21:59.30 | stickster | I think Eddie might be there too, with Ubuntu CDs |
| 21:59.34 | quigleymd_work | :) |
| 21:59.45 | quigleymd_work | i just assumed my attendance was implied :p |
| 22:00.06 | stickster | haha |
| 22:00.35 | stickster | plarsen is bringing network hardware and some Fedora CDs |
| 22:00.53 | stickster | I'm bringing a "server" with a big HDD full of CentOS and Fedora |
| 22:00.57 | quigleymd_work | i planned on cables, powerstrips and a keyboard/monitor |
| 22:01.02 | stickster | Oh yeah, sweet |
| 22:01.02 | plarsen | stickster: I actually have an old catalyst 2900 :) |
| 22:01.15 | plarsen | I was thinking about taking that with me ... buuuut it might scare someone :) |
| 22:02.25 | stickster | I'll probably ditch the projector, but I can bring a couple power strips and network cables |
| 22:03.08 | stickster | The only monitor I have is a 17" CRT :-P |
| 22:03.13 | quigleymd_work | well, it can always be used as a monitor! |
| 22:03.25 | stickster | the projector, yeah |
| 22:03.34 | stickster | good point! |
| 22:03.41 | stickster | Maybe I'll bring that instead of the CRT :-D |
| 22:03.49 | quigleymd_work | :D |
| 22:03.53 | stickster | Oh, I bet I could bring a KVM switch and some cables, that would rock |
| 22:04.04 | quigleymd_work | let me know if you cant |
| 22:04.12 | quigleymd_work | i can maybe round one up |
| 22:04.16 | stickster | Then we could have several things going at once without killing the library's poewr circuit |
| 22:07.17 | plarsen | I have an old 4port KVM ... want me to bring it? |
| 22:07.22 | plarsen | And cables of course. |
| 22:07.48 | stickster | the more the merrier |
| 22:08.29 | plarsen | I can't bring a monitor though :( I have to go directly to "picnic" afterwards, and the monitor will fry if it stays in my car outside. |
| 22:08.40 | stickster | right |
| 22:11.19 | quigleymd_work | stickster: do you use any avocent products? We have some devices that extend KVM over ethernet |
| 22:11.42 | stickster | No, other than a couple old manual KVM boxes |
| 22:11.58 | quigleymd_work | ok, i was just wondering cus i sometimes notice odd PS/2 behavior |
| 22:12.11 | stickster | or is KVMIP? |
| 22:12.15 | stickster | s/is/is it/ |
| 22:12.28 | quigleymd_work | no IP |
| 22:12.34 | quigleymd_work | just at the E layer |
| 22:12.43 | stickster | right-o |
| 22:12.57 | stickster | wow, Netflix _still_ down |
| 22:13.05 | plarsen | ohhh??? |
| 22:13.13 | quigleymd_work | speaking of that |
| 22:13.21 | plarsen | yeah! :( |
| 22:13.23 | stickster | What did you do?!? >:-( |
| 22:13.25 | stickster | haha |
| 22:13.30 | quigleymd_work | i've gotten no dvd receipt/ship notifications from them for the week! |
| 22:13.35 | stickster | youch |
| 22:13.35 | quigleymd_work | i hadnt even thought of it! |
| 22:13.41 | stickster | Well, I just got one in the mail today |
| 22:13.50 | plarsen | hmm - I got DVDs Friday I think or Saturday |
| 22:13.54 | plarsen | I need tos end them back |
| 22:14.26 | quigleymd_work | have either of you tried the streaming? |
| 22:14.37 | plarsen | IE/windows only |
| 22:14.41 | quigleymd_work | im guessing stickster hasnt as its windows only |
| 22:14.49 | stickster | disco |
| 22:15.40 | stickster | "Just install our crippling DRM... you can trust us." |
| 22:16.03 | quigleymd_work | exactly :) |
| 22:16.25 | plarsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.25 | plarsen | We were unable to process your request. |
| 22:16.47 | plarsen | it's up! |
| 22:17.03 | stickster | Wow, ask and thou shalt receive |
| 22:17.16 | plarsen | <cracks fingers> PHEW :) |
| 22:17.57 | quigleymd_work | now that you've fixed that you can get to work on the mythtv/streaming netflix plugin ;) |
| 22:18.06 | plarsen | lol |
| 22:18.36 | plarsen | Let's first cheat them :) |
| 22:18.38 | stickster | haha! "Zodiac" is on the way \_/_ |
| 22:18.46 | quigleymd_work | ahh thanks for the reminder! |
| 22:18.49 | quigleymd_work | the wife requested that |
| 22:18.54 | stickster | oops, \m/_ That's better |
| 22:19.05 | plarsen | ARGH - ActiveX based.... F#@$@%@#$ing bs!! |
| 22:19.53 | quigleymd_work | stickster: did you get 'short wait' too? |
| 22:19.58 | quigleymd_work | on zodiac that is |
| 22:20.06 | stickster | nope, it's on its way today :-) |
| 22:20.26 | quigleymd_work | you must've got the last copy :p |
| 22:20.38 | stickster | Thus the metal hornage \m/_ _\m/ |
| 22:20.47 | stickster | Too much metal for one hand |
| 22:21.14 | quigleymd_work | :D |
| 22:21.34 | quigleymd_work | i wonder if people in richmond get the same-day |
| 22:21.47 | plarsen | LMAO!! http://www.netflix.com/WatchNowMovie?movieid=70072318&trkid=201126 |
| 22:24.11 | quigleymd_work | i dunno plarsen, it didnt get that good of reviews :D |
| 22:24.17 | plarsen | hehe |
| 22:24.31 | plarsen | They should get a price for a title that'll make ya look :) |
| 22:26.13 | quigleymd_work | make my dd go faster... |
| 22:28.35 | jsmith | quigleymd_work: It goes faster if you don't set your block size to 1 |
| 22:29.04 | quigleymd_work | jsmith: :p the host only supports UDMA2 |
| 22:29.14 | jsmith | quigleymd_work: Tell the bad guys to get faster computers |
| 22:29.42 | quigleymd_work | jsmith: you mean tell our guys to buy faster computers, this is a development machine im backing up! |
| 22:29.56 | jsmith | Right... |
| 22:30.20 | jsmith | Me? Tell your guys what to do? Like that'd ever work... |
| 22:30.36 | quigleymd_work | toms pretty impressionable |
| 22:30.38 | quigleymd_work | :D |
| 22:30.57 | jsmith | quigleymd_work: Yeah, but only about tools and tractors and trucks. |
| 22:31.08 | quigleymd_work | http://tomwesthoff.com |
| 22:31.13 | jsmith | quigleymd_work: I don't see him being too impressionable about technology |
| 22:31.53 | quigleymd_work | good observation :) |
| 22:32.15 | quigleymd_work | noone can convince him that basic isnt always the best programming language |
| 22:32.37 | jsmith | His isn't nearly as cool as the marko-cam |
| 22:32.45 | jsmith | Well, I'd better go eat this gourmet dinner |
| 22:32.49 | jsmith | This training facility rocks! |
| 22:32.58 | quigleymd_work | man i havent looked at the markocam in ages, does it still udpate? |
| 22:33.04 | quigleymd_work | alright |
| 22:33.05 | quigleymd_work | on that note |
| 22:33.09 | quigleymd_work | im off too |
| 22:33.13 | quigleymd_work | tty all later |
| 22:38.52 | plarsen | time to hit the road .... |
| 23:30.17 | jsmith | stickster: You home? |
| 23:30.33 | stickster | jsmith: yo homey |
| 23:31.11 | jsmith | stickster: Wassup? |
| 23:31.27 | jsmith | stickster: I can haz SIP callz? |
| 23:31.31 | stickster | haha |
| 23:31.36 | stickster | Yeah sure, we can give it a go |
| 23:31.41 | stickster | Hang on, have to relocate to the downstairs |
| 23:31.56 | jsmith | OK... you wanna call me, or shall I call you. |
| 23:32.07 | jsmith | (From where I'm at, it's probably easier for me to call you) |
| 23:33.30 | stickster | sip:stickster@ekiga.net |
| 23:33.39 | stickster | Oh hang on |
| 23:34.00 | stickster | Just went wired, good to go now |
| 23:36.07 | stickster | jsmith: Hmm |
| 23:36.15 | stickster | No can haz call? |
| 23:36.45 | jsmith | OK, let me fire up my stuff... hold please... |
| 23:37.10 | jsmith | (Keep mistyping the password on this box) |
| 23:38.53 | stickster | heh |
| 23:39.35 | jsmith | OK, I've got an account created, but someone is using my phone |
| 23:39.40 | jsmith | Gimme another minute or two. |
| 23:40.35 | stickster | ok |
| 23:40.42 | stickster | Lovely, ardour is supercrashy |
| 23:40.58 | jsmith | :-( |
| 23:41.15 | stickster | I'm on another desktop, just shout at me when you're good to go |
| 23:41.23 | jsmith | Calling... now |
| 23:41.51 | jsmith | Arg... interrupted again |
| 23:46.40 | stickster | heh... just let me know |
| 23:46.52 | stickster | I'll be around until ~8pm EDT |
| 23:47.01 | jsmith | Ring |
| 23:47.02 | jsmith | Ring |
| 23:47.10 | jsmith | Ring |
| 23:47.16 | stickster | Bugger |
| 23:47.20 | jsmith | Can you hear me? |
| 23:47.21 | stickster | Hang on, audio problem here, my fault |
| 23:47.30 | jsmith | I'm behind NAT, so I may have audio problems as well |
| 23:47.53 | jsmith | Let me know when you're ready for me to try again. |
| 23:48.04 | stickster | Sorry, try again |
| 23:48.15 | jsmith | OK, I will just as soon as my phone is free again. |
| 23:48.28 | jsmith | (All the students are using my phone to test their Asterisk systems |
| 23:48.31 | stickster | Sorry, had to hang up because of the audio reset |
| 23:48.32 | stickster | heh |
| 23:48.54 | stickster | You are a bada$$!!! |
| 23:51.06 | jsmith | Calling again |
| 23:51.07 | jsmith | Ring |
| 23:52.08 | stickster | Hang on |
| 23:52.08 | stickster | I'm still there |
| 23:52.16 | jsmith | I'll give you a second |
| 23:52.26 | jsmith | I can hear you from time to time, but you sound like Max Headroom |
| 23:52.30 | quigleymd | you sip people and your one (or zero) way audio... |
| 23:53.06 | stickster | We're under the PCMU |
| 23:53.08 | jsmith | Can you hear me OK? |
| 23:53.14 | stickster | yes, I hear you fine |
| 23:53.25 | stickster | It's a little compressed sounding |
| 23:53.25 | stickster | We're using that PCMU codec |
| 23:53.40 | stickster | When I connected with Karsten the other night we were using Speex, and it sounded great from his end (so he said) |
| 23:53.42 | jsmith | Can you try using GSM? |
| 23:53.46 | stickster | And I *AM* a robot |
| 23:53.50 | jsmith | I could compile speex support in here... hold on. |
| 23:53.52 | stickster | You have something against robots? |
| 23:53.58 | stickster | yes |
| 23:55.15 | stickster | sorry to be a pain |
| 23:55.42 | jsmith | quigleymd: This isn't one-way audio... this is ma-ma-max headroom audio |
| 23:55.52 | jsmith | stickster: No, it's OK... you forget how much I love this stuff |
| 23:57.08 | stickster | Yikes |
| 23:57.36 | stickster | We had speex going the other night between me and my friend in sunny Santa Cruz... he said it was ~15-17 kB/sec bandwidth, but sounded great |
| 23:58.03 | stickster | I discovered that "echo cancellation" was on in my Ekiga client, and turned it off |
| 23:58.04 | jsmith | Right... pcmu (ulaw) is around 80kB/s |
| 23:58.08 | stickster | I didn't know if that would help |
| 23:58.10 | stickster | whoa |
| 23:58.29 | jsmith | 8000Hz times 8 bits per sample = 64kbps, plus overhead |
| 23:59.12 | stickster | So this would have been ~128 kbps for 16 KBps, yes? |
| 23:59.29 | stickster | I have no idea what the rate or bit-depth was |
| 23:59.47 | jsmith | Almost all phone-based audio is 8000Hz, 8 bit samples |
| 23:59.52 | stickster | ah |
| 23:59.52 | jsmith | But then the codec compresses that |
| 23:59.59 | stickster | see, now I can skip that chapter then |