| 00:05.56 | plarsen | stickster: what info do you get from /dev/disk/* ??? |
| 00:06.05 | plarsen | stickster: It's just soft links? |
| 00:06.27 | stickster | Yes, some nice ways to identify normal node names from more expository info |
| 00:06.41 | stickster | i.e. scsi-SATA_HTS721010G9SA00_MPCZN7Y0GVLZ4L-part1 -> ../../sda1 |
| 00:07.51 | plarsen | I guess the real question is what the "id" is good for? |
| 00:08.20 | stickster | Identifying drives from user-known info like where it's connected, or model name |
| 00:08.30 | stickster | e.g. USB flash drives |
| 00:09.24 | stickster | Makes things like the 'gnome-mount' command easy, and for forensic guys like Bill who potentially have many hard disks connected, obvious benefits in dealing with evidentiary devices ;-) |
| 00:09.44 | plarsen | hmmm - ok |
| 00:13.52 | plarsen | I "discovered" 'lshal' the other week. Interesting stuff!! |
| 00:14.20 | stickster | Absolutely |
| 00:14.28 | stickster | hal-gnome package also interesting |
| 00:19.55 | plarsen | Ohhh, that reminds me. I added a wireless PCCARD the other day, but I found nothing on the bcm43xx* kernel module to specify/link the specific hardware device to the wlan device |
| 00:20.00 | plarsen | Is that something hal can do now? |
| 00:20.06 | plarsen | Using UUID or something? |
| 00:21.17 | stickster | pcmcia cards should still have pci id's I think, so the normal hotplug system handles them -- I think |
| 00:21.33 | plarsen | :) ok |
| 00:36.14 | quigleymd | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.03 | plarsen | stickster: The point is still how you create the alias for that device in /etc/modprobe ?? |
| 00:40.50 | stickster | You mean like "alias wlan0 bcm43xx"? |
| 00:41.47 | stickster | Sorry, I should have remembered that udev does pcmcia now, hotplug vanished a while back |
| 00:43.46 | stickster | pcmciautils -- /sbin/lspcmcia might help...? |
| 00:45.59 | plarsen | stickster: yes - but if you have two devices that are both controlled by the bcm43xx driver, there used to be options on the e1000 drivers to separate the pci bus ID. I can't find that on bcm43xx |
| 00:46.05 | plarsen | I wonder if there's a "generic" way? |
| 00:52.21 | stickster | good question, that |
| 00:52.52 | stickster | I suppose the driver must subscribe to the proper level of the API to make sure it's multi-device capable |
| 00:53.00 | stickster | But assuming that's the case, I dunno |
| 06:08.30 | quigleymd | stickster: just being nosey here, what age did you decide on for the HP books and your kids |
| 06:08.39 | quigleymd | i know some people that SWEAR they're evil... |
| 11:28.49 | stickster_work | quigleymd: My daughter is 6 now and she's heard the first three, but that's as far as we're going for another year or two. The overall tone gets a little dark after that. |
| 11:29.17 | stickster_work | I think people who think HP books are evil are generally themselves borderline crackpots |
| 11:29.31 | stickster_work | Or maybe not so borderline :-) |
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| 12:12.18 | plarsen | good morning!! |
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| 12:44.34 | plarsen | Hey Jsmith .... |
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| 14:29.54 | jsmith | So, was anyone here at the installfest? |
| 14:29.56 | jsmith | How did it go? |
| 14:30.25 | jsmith | quigleymd: You in town this week? Should we shoot for lunch? |
| 14:38.52 | stickster_work | jsmith: Hi man! |
| 14:39.01 | stickster_work | jsmith: Only one person showed up, and she wanted an upgrade :-\ |
| 14:39.19 | stickster_work | But, undaunted, we are going to try to do another one in January maybe, after holidays are over and people are replacing old computers |
| 14:39.25 | stickster_work | We will do better PR for the next one |
| 14:39.50 | jsmith | stickster_work: Sounds like a plan... sorry we didn't have more people show up. |
| 14:41.27 | bit4man | jsmith: It went pretty good. |
| 14:41.38 | bit4man | jsmith: not as many as could have bene though. |
| 14:42.41 | stickster_work | Chris O'Donnell had a great idea about doing a show-n-tell at the library some time before the next one |
| 14:43.32 | bit4man | jsmith: We got invited to the Fred PC users group |
| 14:44.00 | jsmith | Cool. |
| 14:44.02 | jsmith | Cool. |
| 14:44.06 | stickster_work | If we worked it right, we could give this as a fabulous presentation in the forum |
| 14:44.09 | stickster_work | If we worked it right, we could give this as a fabulous presentation in the forum/away |
| 14:45.55 | stickster_work | Yeah, re: the FPCUG, I'm not convinced that we stand to gain anything from that. |
| 14:46.43 | stickster_work | But I'd like to know more. Did you know they *charge a fee* for membership? Blecch. |
| 14:47.05 | bit4man | WHAT? |
| 14:47.13 | bit4man | Ohhh brother |
| 14:47.22 | bit4man | No wonder membership goes down. |
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| 15:40.34 | bit4man | jsmith: I know I asked this way back in Fredlug. But our phones here at home are not holding charges etc. |
| 15:41.21 | bit4man | jsmith: Do you know of any phones that has both eth and the standard analog interfaces so when I do upgrade to a asterisk like system I can use the same phones? |
| 15:53.02 | quigleymd | jsmith: tom and i are available any day but today |
| 15:53.15 | quigleymd | stickster_work: whats your lunch schedule look like for the week? |
| 16:36.33 | jsmith | bit4man: You can get a Linksys SPA-3000 box... I think it'll fail back over to analog if the ethernet isn't working |
| 17:11.11 | stickster_work | quigleymd_work: Mostly unspoken for re: lunch schedule |
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| 19:48.43 | stickster_work | quigleymd_work: Did you have something brewing for a lunch this week? |
| 20:10.35 | quigleymd_work | stickster_work: jsmith suggested that we get together |
| 20:10.43 | quigleymd_work | tom and i are good for anyday |
| 20:11.13 | jsmith | I'm good for any day too... |
| 20:12.02 | stickster_work | me three |
| 20:13.57 | quigleymd_work | jsmith: pick a day |
| 20:14.54 | jsmith | quigleymd_work: How about... Wednesday |
| 20:15.17 | jsmith | quigleymd_work: Or Thursday... either one works for me |
| 20:19.00 | quigleymd_work | excellent |
| 20:19.05 | quigleymd_work | shall i email larry? |
| 20:21.48 | jsmith | Please! |
| 20:23.12 | quigleymd_work | 10-4, i'll ask him to choose |
| 20:23.18 | quigleymd_work | and if he cant make it we'll pick weds |
| 20:23.22 | quigleymd_work | place of interest? |
| 20:26.23 | jsmith | I don't care... anything is good for me |
| 20:30.09 | quigleymd_work | the email is sent |
| 20:30.14 | quigleymd_work | ill keep you posted |
| 20:30.23 | quigleymd_work | :) |
| 20:42.22 | quigleymd_work | larry is on for wednesday |
| 20:53.48 | quigleymd_work | to quote larry "I don't have a preference. I am hoping to stop and see Jared's new house, so in that area is fine." |
| 20:54.07 | quigleymd_work | jsmith: so we'll let you decide, as tom and i are both really indecisive |
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| 21:12.59 | jsmith | quigleymd_work: Sure... make me choose... you guys like Italian, or cheap? |
| 21:14.26 | quigleymd_work | jsmith: vinnys is italian and cheap :) |
| 21:14.34 | quigleymd_work | tom and i definitely lean toward cheap |
| 21:15.14 | jsmith | Vinny's is good... I like Amici better, but it's more expensive |
| 21:15.34 | quigleymd_work | vinnys it is :) |
| 21:28.16 | quigleymd_work | stickster_work: you catch that? Vinnys on wednesday |
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| 23:34.24 | stickster_work | quigleymd: Vinnys on Wednesday.... yeah, I think I can do that |
| 23:36.09 | stickster_work | Just finished hacking my car... Added a kit for my iPod so I can play it through my stereo using the builtin controls... pretty sweet, and it sounds great! |