IRC log for #fredlug on 20070827

13:01.20stickster_workquigleymd: Thanks for the information re: dynamic forwarding in OpenSSH
13:01.24stickster_workTotally wicked!
13:01.33*** join/#fredlug jsmith (n=jsmith@000-143-916.area3.spcsdns.net)
13:01.53stickster_workHeavens to mergatroid! it's jsmith!
13:02.15jsmithstickster_work: Yeah, I know... I'm back from my vacation, and back online
13:02.35jsmithstickster_work: (And great minds think alike... I went to the Air and Space musuem with my kids too!)
13:03.14stickster_workjsmith: Awesome, isn't it?
13:03.30jsmithYeah, it's awesome.
13:03.39jsmithI was surprised at how excited my kids were though...
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19:19.01*** join/#fredlug |Carrera (n=nonadmin@c-71-62-208-209.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
19:19.13|Carrerahello
19:19.43jsmithHowdy!
19:19.46jsmith(and welcome!)
19:19.58|Carrerathank you, how is it going?
19:20.28jsmithNot bad at all...
19:20.44jsmithAbout a thousand things on my plate, but that's par for the course
19:20.47jsmithAnd you?
19:21.01|Carrerajust killing time before class.
19:21.08jsmithWhat class?
19:21.11jsmithAnything fun?
19:21.44|CarreraSurvey of American literature, and Chemistry.
19:21.55|CarreraZZZzzzz
19:22.43|CarreraAre you a Linux guru?
19:23.16jsmithYeah, you could call me that.
19:23.31jsmithI've been using it since 1996
19:23.39|CarreraGreat! Maybe you can help me.
19:23.41jsmithI don't know as much as stickster_work
19:23.48jsmithBut I'd be happy to help you out
19:24.21|CarreraMy USB drive (NTFS) is comming up as read only, how do I make it rw?
19:30.20jsmithOK, first a (short) history lesson
19:31.04jsmithMany of the early attempts by Linux hackers at writing to NTFS partitions were notoriously buggy, so much so that most of the NTFS drivers are read-only, so that Linux doesn't accidentally screw up your NTFS filesystem
19:31.28jsmithThere are some newer projects that claim to support full write access to NTFS partitions, but I'm guessing you're using one of the read-only ones.
19:31.32jsmithWhich Linux distro?
19:31.46|CarreraUbuntu
19:32.25|CarreraI am dual booting XP and Ubuntu. I have no problems writing to my NTFS partition.
19:32.55|CarreraI had to modify the fstab.conf for that though.
19:33.11jsmithOh, yeah...
19:33.50jsmithIn that case, you should be able to do something like "mount -o remount,rw /mount-point"
19:33.59jsmithTo tell it to remount it as r/w
19:34.19|Carreralet me try that
19:44.12|Carrerano luck
19:44.56|Carreraaccording to my mtab they are rw, but for some reason I cant write on them
19:44.57jsmithHmmmn...
19:49.13stickster_workIf I might butt in for a moment?
19:49.55jsmithSure!
19:50.09jsmithLike I said, I don't know nearly as much as stickster_work
19:50.13stickster_workSorry I don't know Ubuntu very well... but I bet their kernel is using the old style driver which IIRC is not upstream in the kernel itself
19:50.36stickster_workYou might want to look for the "ntfs-3g" software, which, along with FUSE, allows you to R/W your NTFS partitions and devices
19:50.46stickster_workI'm pretty sure Ubuntu has that available as well
19:51.06stickster_workThat's the "3rd generation" (thus the name) NTFS driver
19:52.12jsmithstickster_work: Other *half*?  Gee... that's being optimistic!
19:52.14|Carrerai do have the ntfs-3g  software installed
19:52.48|Carrerais there a way to just format those NTFS's goodbye?
19:54.04stickster_work|Carrera: Depending on the size, you can use "mkdosfs -F 32" to make it FAT-32 instead
19:54.17stickster_workYou should probably run "fdisk" first on it, and change the partition type to FAT32 LBA.
19:54.32stickster_workI think that's type C (0x0C)...
19:54.46stickster_workObviously this is a destructive operation :-)
19:55.05stickster_workso, "fdisk /dev/sdc" (or whatever device it is)
19:55.11|Carrerahehe i dont have anything i need on it
19:55.26stickster_workthen, "mkdosfs -F 32 -n 'YourName' /dev/sdc1"
19:56.02stickster_workI can't remember if there's an upper FAT-32 limit for partition size
19:56.52stickster_workI usually use ext3 everywhere, but I used to use "EXT2IFS" for Windows to access those partitions
19:57.19|Carrerai am trying to go away from windows
19:57.46|Carrerahow do i make them ext3?
19:58.17stickster_workWell, run fdisk as before, make the partition type 0x83 instead (Linux ext2/ext3), then "mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1"
19:58.35stickster_work(The -j makes a journal, which is the feature that sets ext3 apart from ext2)
19:59.07|Carreragreat! I will go ahead and do that.
19:59.09|CarreraThanks!
19:59.21stickster_workKeep in mind that USB disk will now only work with Linux and Windows machines where you install a driver like EXT2IFS
19:59.36stickster_workIf that makes you happy, super!
19:59.42stickster_workGood luck and have fun
20:00.02jsmithquigleymd: Ping!
21:33.13jsmithstickster: Quick question for you... a friend is trying to upgrade from FC5 to F7... anaconda in F7 isn't seeing his LVM partitions, even though he can mount them manually from the liveCD
21:41.09sticksterHm
21:42.01sticksterI'm not sure why they wouldn't be *recognized*..
21:43.01jsmithYeah...
21:43.09jsmithI'm clueless, so I figured I'd ask you
21:43.41sticksterIs it possible that he's using dmraid and the whole disk is going unrecognized?
21:43.54jsmithNope... no raid
21:44.28sticksterAre _any_ partitions being recognized?
21:47.39sticksterjsmith-away: Do you think there might be an issue with the libata switchover (IDE disks now using /dev/sd*)
21:47.43stickster?

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