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| 12:20.36 | jsmith | stickster: Let me know if you've got a second? I'm having a strange problem on my laptop, and thought you might have some ideas |
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| 14:09.16 | stickster_work | Oops, I've been here a while |
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| 15:11.48 | plarsen | good morning |
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| 17:14.05 | jsmith | Howdy, all |
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| 17:42.00 | jsmith-teaching | stickster_work: Got a second by chance? |
| 18:10.12 | stickster_work | jsmith: pong |
| 18:10.23 | stickster_work | Sorry, running around like decapitated chicken today |
| 18:14.19 | jsmith | stickster_work: No problem... I am too |
| 18:14.37 | stickster_work | Feel free to drop the info here and I'll respond ASAP |
| 18:14.43 | stickster_work | Or, y'know, wherever :-) |
| 18:14.45 | jsmith | stickster_work: OK, here's my problem. On logging into my user yesterday, the gnome-panels at the top and bottom don't seem to work |
| 18:15.07 | jsmith | The menu doesn't work... the other applets in the top-right-hand corner sometimes work |
| 18:15.16 | jsmith | The window list at the bottom doesn't work either |
| 18:15.25 | stickster_work | This is F8 PPC? |
| 18:15.32 | jsmith | Yes |
| 18:15.46 | stickster_work | crud |
| 18:16.23 | jsmith | In desperation, I ran "rpm -Va", just to check for anything odd |
| 18:16.57 | jsmith | It told me gnome-system-monitor and pavucontrol had their dependencies updated since they were prelinked, so I prelinked them again, and then my next login worked |
| 18:17.18 | jsmith | So, I patted myself on the back, played around for a few minutes, and shutdown the latopi |
| 18:17.22 | jsmith | laptop, that is |
| 18:17.40 | jsmith | So I boot up this morninjg, and what do you know.... panels aren't working again |
| 18:18.36 | jsmith | So, out of desperation, I even move my entire home directory out of the way and create a new home directory, and now when I log in it just hangs at the gnome background... no panels, no nautilus, nothing... |
| 18:19.10 | jsmith | Any ideas? |
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| 21:09.37 | plarsen | ehhh - how do you convert a major/minor id into a device path?? |
| 21:34.00 | jsmith | stickster_work: For what it's worth, I've narrowed the problem down to Tomboy (in specific, or maybe just Mono in general) |
| 22:35.22 | stickster | Jeez... finally home |
| 22:35.32 | stickster | Crap, and jsmith is gone. |
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| 22:40.46 | plarsen | :) welcome home stickster ;) |
| 22:56.52 | jsmith | stickster: Ah! Tomboy was definitely the culprit |
| 22:56.57 | jsmith | stickster: I'll tell you all about it tomorrow |
| 22:57.09 | stickster | jsmith: So if you add it as an applet on the panel, it works, and in your notification area, it breaks things |
| 22:57.39 | jsmith | stickster: Good to know... is it in bugzilla |
| 22:57.53 | stickster | I believe I filed it |
| 22:57.59 | stickster | I'll shoot you the number, hang on |
| 22:58.02 | jsmith | Thanks! |
| 22:58.02 | stickster | Or don't |
| 22:58.03 | stickster | :-) |
| 22:58.18 | jsmith | I was in the middle of filing a bug myself, but I'd rather not duplicate |
| 22:58.39 | stickster | 237986 |
| 22:58.53 | stickster | Does that look like your bug? |
| 22:59.39 | stickster | This unfortunately is an example of my speaking too soon, twice in a row. |
| 23:00.09 | jsmith | Looks like my bug... sort of |
| 23:00.23 | jsmith | Did yours block the panel from running, or just take lots of CPU? |
| 23:00.31 | jsmith | Mine completely blocks gnome-panel |
| 23:00.44 | jsmith | (and a handy strace show TomBoy hanging on the futex) |
| 23:00.54 | jsmith | Anyway, I'll file some notes tomorrow |
| 23:00.56 | jsmith | Gotta run |
| 23:01.01 | jsmith | Thanks for the bug number |
| 23:02.42 | stickster | jsmith-away: I honestly can't recall |
| 23:02.46 | stickster | I think it may have done both. |
| 23:02.56 | stickster | Mono sucks. |
| 23:03.10 | stickster | I would like to see Tomboy rewritten in PyGTK. |
| 23:03.31 | stickster | I thought that would be a fun project to try when I had a few days' spare time |
| 23:03.37 | stickster | And someone to help me with the coding ;-) |
| 23:05.25 | stickster | board games++ |