IRC log for #fredlug on 20071227

01:58.34sticksterhal+udev
04:58.41*** join/#fredlug IrishW0lf (n=wdoakes@70-41-188-87.cust.wildblue.net)
04:59.01IrishW0lfstickster: hi
04:59.09IrishW0lfquestion?
05:02.33IrishW0lfrebooted my linuxbox last night, and now no drives including CD/DVD are being recognized.  felt the drive, does not appear to be spinning.
05:04.29IrishW0lfthere is power to the MB as the fans and cpu appear to be working.  Nothing else.  BIOS does not recognize either primary or secondary master or slave
05:05.49IrishW0lfI had replaced the power supply year before last.  Could it have gone bad again??
05:08.22IrishW0lfShockWare: hi, if you have any ideas concerning the above, feel free to jump in!!
05:37.12*** join/#fredlug nombyte (n=nomb@c-71-62-193-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
05:38.05IrishW0lfnombyte: hi
05:40.19nombytehey there
05:40.36IrishW0lfgetting on late, eh?
05:40.42nombytenah this is earl for me
05:40.48IrishW0lfi answered your pm
05:41.03IrishW0lfok
05:41.07nombytereally? i didn't get it?
05:41.40IrishW0lfmaybe i was blocked thought i was registered
05:41.47nombytei got ur first hi
05:42.15IrishW0lfyeah, that was on the main not pm
05:42.49IrishW0lfhow are you at diagnosing HW probs
05:45.43nombyteya there?
05:46.06IrishW0lfyes but appears that i am being blocked
05:46.19IrishW0lfhang on
05:50.48nombyteum... ?
05:51.39IrishW0lfwell i identified my self to nickserv
05:52.01nombytewanna use aim?
05:52.29IrishW0lfdon't have aim on this box
05:52.56nombyteok
05:52.59nombytego ahead
05:54.24IrishW0lfrebooted my linux box last night
05:54.42IrishW0lfno hd's or cd/dvd recognized
05:54.59nombyteouch
05:55.08nombyteso then it isn't just a hdd issue
05:55.11IrishW0lfbios doesn't see either primary or secondary master or slave
05:55.25nombytedid u recently do an update
05:55.42IrishW0lfi thing it may be power supply related
05:56.09nombyteif i remember correctly you do data recovery, do you not?
05:56.15IrishW0lfpower gets to fans and cpu but doesn't appear to be driving HD's
05:56.55nombytetake out your laptop hdd and test it from another computer
05:57.40IrishW0lfyes, i could remove drives and try on  different box, but i thought i would try and confirm the powersupply issue firs
05:57.54nombytei guess what your saying is possible i just don't know how likely that is
05:57.54IrishW0lfno prob with lap top
05:58.17nombytethe real test would be to either put a diff hdd in that laptop
05:58.22nombyteor test that hdd on another computer
05:58.29nombyteI'd do both personally
05:58.29IrishW0lfwell i guess i'll have to do it the hard way
05:58.43nombytebut then atleast you would know which way to go then we can start looking deeper
05:59.16IrishW0lfof course, you're right, just tired
05:59.37nombytenothing is saying you have to do it tonight :D
05:59.50nombytewhen you do that let me know and we'll start going from there
06:00.29IrishW0lflol no not tonight.  yes, i'll get back to you
06:00.38IrishW0lfthanks
06:00.59nombytenot a problem now i get to go work on my project >:D
06:01.11IrishW0lfgo for it
06:01.31IrishW0lfnight
06:01.34nombytenight
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15:29.09*** join/#fredlug jsmith (n=jsmith@68-247-236-122.area3.spcsdns.net)
18:43.04sticksterjsmith: Hey man
18:43.13jsmithstickster!
18:43.21sticksterjsmith: Question for you if you have time
18:43.28jsmithSure...
18:43.32jsmithWhat's up?
18:43.38sticksterjsmith: Do you use virt-manager and/or KVM+QEMU at all?
18:44.03sticksterI am having a devil of a time getting a network bridge to work properly on my system, and I *really* need one to do some Rawhide package fixing & testing.
18:44.03jsmithI've used virt-manager a bit
18:44.30jsmithHmmmn... works fine for me, as long as I turn on IPv4 forwarding
18:45.01sticksterThat may be the step I left out. :-)
18:45.06sticksterLemmesee....
18:45.38jsmithin /etc/sysctl.conf, set net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
18:45.59jsmithThen run sysctl -p
18:46.04sticksterjsmith: Right
18:46.11sticksterjsmith: But it appears the problem persists.
18:46.27sticksterI'm on my wlan0 (my laptop is my main workhorse)
18:46.55jsmithEeew... OK, in that case I think you have to go into the Xen configs and tell it which NIC to use
18:47.01sticksterI have a virbr0 running 192.168.122.0/24, and dnsmasq is running
18:47.24jsmithI know I had to futz with this a couple of months back... let me get my Xen box back online and take a look.
18:47.30stickster<network>
18:47.30stickster<PROTECTED>
18:47.30stickster<PROTECTED>
18:47.30stickster<PROTECTED>
18:47.30stickster<PROTECTED>
18:47.32stickster<PROTECTED>
18:47.35stickster<PROTECTED>
18:47.37stickster<PROTECTED>
18:47.40stickster<PROTECTED>
18:47.42stickster<PROTECTED>
18:47.45stickster</network>
18:47.47sticksterThere's my /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default.xml
18:47.52sticksterI have WinXP running with 0 problems too, kinda nice!
18:47.59jsmithNo, this is in the *main* Xen config file... I don't know about QEMU
18:48.05sticksterEspecially since VMWare is having some mysterious problems.
18:48.17sticksterI'm not using Xen though
18:49.12sticksterI can ping myself on the virbr0 adapter (192.168.122.1) w/o problem.
18:49.43sticksterBut none of the guests seem to be able to get DHCP addreses from dnsmasq
18:49.57sticksterI may not have that configured correctly, but I thought it was supposed to pretty much work out of the box
18:50.14sticksteri.e. offer DNS/DHCP services to any adapter, unless you forbid it one or more
18:54.41sticksterHmm, uncool.
18:58.32sticksterYeah, zero luck here. *sigh
18:59.36jsmithStrange... I wish I knew the answer...
18:59.46jsmithYou could always try the folks in #fedora-admin
18:59.50jsmithIf they don't know, nobody does ;-)
19:08.18sticksterYeah, I should try there.
19:08.24sticksterI feel bad bringing support problems there.
19:08.36sticksterBut on the other hand, the thought of suffering through #fedora is.... just, eww.
19:12.37jsmithYeah, I hear you
19:13.11jsmith(After my Windows licensing battle yesterday, I'm still ashamed to admit that open source licensing is a nightmare too)
19:15.00sticksterEww, yucky.
19:15.11sticksterlicenseFights--
19:15.15sticksterjsmith++
19:15.19stickster~jsmith++
19:15.55stickster~stickster--
19:15.59jsmithSo, my kids get a game from their grandparents for Christmas
19:16.12sticksterYou mean a video game?
19:16.22jsmithSo, I resurrect their old Windows box (hasn't run since we lived in Utah)
19:16.27jsmithBut the on-board video won't cut it
19:16.30sticksterugh
19:16.32jsmith(Yeah, Age of Empires III)
19:16.35sticksteraha
19:16.42jsmithLuckily, I had enough spare parts to build them a machine
19:17.02jsmithSo I finally get it all set up, and Windows complains that it's already been licensed, yadda yadda
19:17.16jsmithI call Microsoft, explain the situation, they give me a new code to type in
19:17.23jsmithThen, that motherboard starts acting up
19:17.37jsmithGets to where it will reboot every 30 seconds or so
19:17.54jsmith(This is the motherboard from my old server, which had problems, fwiw)
19:18.15jsmithSo, I bite the bullet and give them the motherboard/cpu out of my lab box
19:18.22sticksterA CPU cooling problem maybe?
19:18.32jsmithstickster: I'm not sure... still trying to track it down
19:18.39jsmithstickster: If you can get it working, it's yours for the taking
19:18.42sticksterhaha
19:18.54sticksterI already have two mobo's and nothing done with them
19:19.02jsmithSo I get Windows back up, call Microsoft again...
19:19.33stickster"Jared WHO?!?"
19:19.35jsmithAnd just as soon as I reboot, it loads a bunch of new nvidia chipset drivers, which makes Windows think that the motherboard, hard drive, video card have all changed, so I have to call Microsoft a *third* time
19:19.41stickster"Never heard of him."
19:20.06jsmithWasted like ten hours over the past three days, all so my son could play Age of Empires against his uncles
19:20.26jsmithAnd then both uncles decided to drive back to Mississippi at 5:00am this morning, so he didn't get a chance to play against them after all
19:21.19sticksterOh lordy.
19:21.45sticksterMy family has given up trying to buy anything computer related for my kids
19:22.29sticksterWhich is fine with me... aside from the XO -- obviously computer related -- my daughter's favorite Christmas gift was Jenga
19:22.39stickster{Anything made with wood}++
19:22.47sticksterNever needs batteries!
19:23.13sticksterNot that you'll find any dearth of battery-eating monstrosities at our house
19:32.15jsmithMy favorite gift this year (besides the new shotgun) are some remote control helicopters that my son and I can fly and try to shoot each other down
19:34.04sticksterMy drummer Rich and his son got those too!
19:34.49jsmithOooh :-)
19:34.51jsmithThey're a blasat
19:34.55jsmiths/blasat/blast/
19:35.55sticksterSend me a link or a name of what it is -- I forgot to ask Rcih
19:35.59sticksters/Rcih/Rich/
19:36.27jsmithAir hogs
19:37.23sticksterI gotta go look those up.
19:37.45jsmithairhogs.com, I think
19:38.24sticksterIs there a model name?  They have about a billion different kinds
19:38.34sticksterHavoc Heli Laser Battle?
19:38.44sticksterSuper Chomper Chipmunk Blast?
19:38.56sticksterMega Monster Missile Monkeys?
19:46.53jsmithHavoc Heli Laser Battle, I think
19:52.18sticksterLooks cool!
19:52.25jsmithYeah, that's the one
20:58.37sticksterOK, it wasn't me after all... Rawhide is suffering from a "can't network install" problem.
20:58.57sticksterIt's a libnl upgrade... kind of fundamental :-)
21:06.48jsmithOh, that's good to know
21:07.03jsmithKind of a relief in some ways, I'll bet
21:09.33sticksterHmm.
21:10.07sticksterI guess nbd would save the day here.
21:12.52jsmithNever msessed with it much
21:22.22sticksterAh, no point -- I can set up a separate partition and just have libvirt use it instead.
21:25.58sticksterNow I just have to wait for the rsync to finish.
21:26.08sticksterWish my wifi was faster :-D

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