IRC log for #fredlug on 20080111

00:35.09*** join/#fredlug jsmith (n=user@206.166.206.34)
00:36.04jsmithstickster_afk: headed out from hsv, I'll call you if I get stranded due to weather
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03:27.24*** join/#fredlug nombyte (n=nomb@c-71-62-193-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
03:27.39nombytesigh, they got rid of 99.3, I'm so sad...
03:28.22jsmith:-(
03:28.32jsmithTime to learn to love http://last.fm instead
03:28.51nombyteyou can still listen to the original wysk at wysk.com
03:28.58nombytebut on the radio they just play the vibe crap...
03:29.13nombytehttp://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/012008/01082008/346328
03:29.46nombyteonline i usually listen to radio1
03:33.50sticksterI have liked trying Pandora
03:33.58sticksterEven though it may not be as "open" as some other platforms
03:38.48nombyteanything that blew u away?
03:39.04sticksterIt just seemed to make pretty intelligent choices about music
03:39.12nombyteah
03:39.13sticksterI heard some cool off the wall stuff I hadn't heard in other places
03:39.20nombytegotcha
03:39.29sticksterI don't know if it's innovative compared to other services, I just kinda liked it
03:40.00sticksterCable upstream is a limiting factor
03:41.52jsmithstickster: Me too, but this n810 has a *great* last.fm client
03:42.04jsmithstickster: So I've been enjoying it this week
03:42.31sticksterI may try it more often soon.
03:42.40sticksterI have a membership there and everything
03:42.45sticksterI think there's a RB plugin for it too
03:42.55sticksterBy the way, the wifi here in the hotel is pretty darn good
03:43.58nombytewhere ya at?
03:44.15sticksterRaleigh
03:44.19sticksterFUDCon this weekend!
03:46.08nombyteah nice
03:46.28nombytei use to live in new bern and havalock which isn't too far from there
03:52.27sticksternombyte: What Linux do you use for development?
03:53.28sticksternombyte: I'm over here! :-)
03:53.44sticksternombyte: I mean what distro? for your own individual projects?
03:57.29nombyteI beat you!!!
03:57.48sticksterIf I do "nombyte:" at the beginning of a line, does it open a private window in your client?
03:57.58nombyteone sec let me close it
03:58.04nombytek do it again
03:58.20sticksterwithout
03:58.22sticksternombyte: with
03:58.42nombyteno it just make the line red and flashes it if it is minimized
03:59.07nombytestickster: probably like this...
03:59.08sticksterWhen I do that, I'm just trying to get your attention like that
03:59.10sticksterright
03:59.13nombyteright
03:59.19sticksterBut if you /msg me it opens up a different window, private comms
03:59.32nombytewell ya know what, i was washing dishes too :P
03:59.37sticksternp
03:59.48sticksterI guess I was wondering why I always got these PMs from ya
03:59.58nombyte:D
04:00.15nombyteso ya fedora mostly
04:00.25jsmithw00t!
04:00.27nombytewhy what do u use?
04:00.34sticksterI thought you were not cool with having public convo's -- I'm not criticizing or anything
04:00.43sticksterI'm a Fedora guy, dyed-in-the-wool
04:00.51sticksterFedora ROCKS IT THE MOST baby
04:01.07nombytealtho i've been trying to figure out what i needed to start doing some java
04:01.15nombytemake the .jar files and such
04:01.28sticksterjsmith: I may barely have you beat, 4.1 was my first
04:01.35sticksterVanderbilt?  Or was it something else?
04:01.36jsmithnombyte: Start checking out the Iced Tea packages in Fedora 8
04:01.47sticksternombyte: I don't know a darn thing about java
04:01.52nombytei have but they just seem like jre's
04:01.55nombyteis it more then that?
04:01.56jsmithstickster: I don't remember... to be honest, I only used 4.2 for about a month before 5.0 came out
04:01.58sticksterExcept that Fedora 8 now has IcedTea and java is supposed to rock on it
04:02.09jsmithstickster: It *does* rock on it
04:02.16jsmithstickster: And rawhide is much better ;-)
04:02.17sticksternombyte: I think you can find all the java development stuff you need in Fedora
04:02.24nombytetomorrow I'm putting fedora on my PS3
04:02.26sticksterbetween eclipse, java development yum group, and so on
04:02.33sticksternombyte: I hear that's pretty sweet too
04:02.50nombyteawww :'(
04:02.56nombyteill play mine more for ya
04:03.00sticksterhehe
04:03.24nombyteso what just do a yum install eclipse icedtea?
04:03.31jsmithstickster: Here, you can have mine ;-)
04:04.00sticksterurm...
04:04.11nombyteim putting fedora on it so i can use the cell processer to generate/utilize rainbow tables
04:04.41stickstercool
04:04.42jsmithnombyte: Oh boy...
04:04.54nombyte>:D
04:05.25nombytejsmith: what?
04:05.26sticksternombyte: Well easy way would be 'yum groupinstall "Java Development" "Eclipse"'
04:05.31stickstersorry
04:05.33nombyteoh gotcha
04:05.33sticksternombyte: Well easy way would be 'yum groupinstall "Java Development" "Fedora Eclipse"'
04:05.44sticksterOr the GUI is nice if you go for that sort of thing
04:05.55nombytenope cli
04:06.03jsmithnombyte: Wouldn't it be faster to do that in a dedicated DSP?
04:06.16nombytewell
04:06.44nombytelooking at what i have next to me
04:07.16sticksterYeah, the Cell is particularly good at fp math, but unfortunately most rainbow table generation work is integer math.
04:07.16nombyteand the best time they got on intel chips was 1.5billion md5 hashes a second and the psp pulled 15billion a second
04:07.30stickstereh?
04:07.36sticksterHadn't seen those benchmarks.
04:07.50nombyteya university at something or other just released them let me grab it for u
04:09.10sticksterhm
04:09.40sticksterI had heard of work done to move this stuff to GPUs that was very favorable, but mostly from a price/performance perspective
04:10.44nombytewell i read the article a little wrong cause i was tired last night
04:10.46nombytehttp://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140064-c,gameconsoles/article.html
04:11.01nombytestill impresive tho
04:11.15sticksterHm, page not found
04:11.33nombyteya every time i paste that link it doesn't work, but its right
04:11.39sticksterhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140064-c,gameconsoles/article.html
04:11.49nombyteuse this to go to it
04:11.49sticksterJust the ascii entities throw it off, no biggie
04:11.55nombyteoh gotcha
04:11.57sticksterI'm there
04:12.19nombytek
04:13.02nombyteso ya just to re-iterate i was tired and it was 4 in the morning... :D
04:15.37sticksterthx for the link!
04:15.43nombytewelcome
04:15.55nombytewhatcha think?
04:23.46nombyteoh and the reason im thinking about learning java is because im tired of having to write seperate programs for linux, windows, my pocket pc, and my psp
04:25.24nombyteum, am i lost?
04:29.37sticksternombyte: Sorry, about 8 convos at once around here
04:29.44sticksterWe're doing some Fedora work on another syste right now
04:29.46stickster*system
04:29.51nombyteah
05:15.35nombytehmm clicking on 'java developement' under welcome in eclipse is suppose to bring up some info on how to get started but all it yeilds in an error...
05:15.39nombytecan't find it 303
05:15.42nombyte404
05:56.01*** join/#fredlug nombyte (n=nomb@c-71-62-193-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
05:56.06nombyteany ideas?
15:16.13*** join/#fredlug jsmith (n=jsmith@nom13489cmd.nomadic.ncsu.edu)
18:09.23*** join/#fredlug nombyte (n=nmcbride@208.176.91.226.ptr.us.xo.net)
18:09.38nombytelook at this great debug line...
18:09.39nombyte[2008-01-11 13:06:07.489 'BaseLibs' 3076436096 info] [NFC DEBUG] NfcFile_Receive: Apparently, file was succesfully received
18:09.50nombyteapparenlty... thats reassuring...
18:11.27jsmithApparently, somebody doesn't know how to write error messages
18:12.39nombytelol ><
18:12.53nombytejust thought it was funny
18:13.08jsmithDefinitely
18:24.42nombyteman everyone went ot lunch w/o me...
18:29.03jsmith:-(
18:30.00nombytethink i got a 'healthy choice' soup in my desk somewhere.. blah
18:30.41jsmithblah
18:31.08nombyteya...
18:33.10nombytenice it was too hot and I just burnt my tounge, now I wont be able to taste it ^^
20:27.45*** join/#fredlug plarsen (n=plarsen@208.176.91.226.ptr.us.xo.net)
20:27.58plarsenhowdy
20:33.16jsmithHey plarsen
20:33.35plarsenlong time no chat? How are things going?
20:34.03jsmithNot too bad...
20:38.12plarsenStill traveling around teaching ?
20:42.04sticksterPeter's here with me at FUDCon!
20:42.07jsmithI'm at FudCON this week with stickster
20:42.14sticksterSee, independent verification :p0
20:42.22stickster:-)
20:42.36jsmithPlausible deniability
21:00.31sticksternah
21:13.03nombyteso there is a bug with fedora eclipse that keeps the pages on jetty from loading.  Last night I found a fix on my other laptop by installing the devel version of it, is there another way to fix it?
21:19.46sticksternombyte: You're way beyond me buddy
21:19.50sticksterI use it for PyDev and that's about it
21:23.55nombyteoh ok
21:43.45sticksterSorry man
21:49.10nombytenp
22:10.04nombytedo u have a loc of any good tutorials by chance?
22:15.37sticksternombyte: For Eclipse?
22:15.42sticksterGoogle probably does :-)
22:17.04sticksterI haven't been through any to be able to recommend them :-\
22:23.07nombytedarn i couldn't find any good ones last night
22:25.34nombytei think i wanna make a program and have it get in fedora
23:38.47nombytehey give me a java app to make
23:38.49nombytei can't think of one
23:38.55nombytebut no gui and keep it simple

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