| 01:19.41 | *** join/#fredlug aliddell (n=acliddel@pool-71-114-21-249.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 01:20.24 | aliddell | Anybody home? |
| 01:40.55 | jsmith | aliddell: I'm here... |
| 01:41.58 | aliddell | Guess you don't do much talking around here? |
| 01:46.18 | jsmith | Well, sometimes we do, sometimes we don't... |
| 01:46.25 | jsmith | ... usually more during the day than in the evenings |
| 01:46.39 | jsmith | Several of the usual suspects are absent as of late |
| 01:47.39 | aliddell | Hmm. Any unofficial meetings? |
| 01:55.48 | jsmith | I don't know about unofficial meetings... we have plenty of official ones, though |
| 01:56.01 | jsmith | (I'm not sure what you mean by unofficial meetings) |
| 02:13.36 | aliddell | (Oh, I mean times when it's most active here.) |
| 02:14.45 | jsmith | Gotcha... |
| 02:14.54 | jsmith | It just depends on when people are around |
| 02:15.04 | jsmith | I've been on the road this week teaching classes, so I haven't been in IRC much |
| 02:15.17 | jsmith | I know stickster has been super busy, and plarsen hasn't been on IRC much this week either |
| 02:15.30 | aliddell | Ah, okay. |
| 02:16.05 | aliddell | See, I just got XChat a few days ago. Last time I was on IRC I used mIRC and that was maybe 2000. |
| 02:16.18 | aliddell | I was starting to think IRC had been abandoned. |
| 02:16.51 | aliddell | You guys don't have your own newsgroup, do you? |
| 02:16.54 | aliddell | By the way. |
| 02:17.05 | jsmith | Not a newsgroup... but a mailing list, yes... |
| 02:17.13 | jsmith | (and a google group) |
| 02:17.46 | aliddell | Yeah, I'm on the Google group. |
| 02:17.56 | stickster | is kind of around |
| 02:18.27 | aliddell | I came in to a Sat. morning meeting once, a long time ago. |
| 02:18.38 | aliddell | November, maybe, or December. |
| 02:18.59 | aliddell | I brought a desktop in and tried to install Fedora. |
| 03:51.54 | aliddell | Welp, see you later. |
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| 23:07.56 | *** join/#fredlug nmcbride (n=nmcbride@c-71-62-139-41.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 23:08.14 | nmcbride | stickster: Hey I got a question. |
| 23:08.29 | stickster | nmcbride: shoot |
| 23:08.44 | nmcbride | k, about to release version 2 of my program nombcrypt |
| 23:09.00 | nmcbride | licensed under MIT |
| 23:09.29 | nmcbride | so was working on integrating a python binding module to wrap cryptsetup |
| 23:09.39 | nmcbride | so I can handle encrypted containers in a better way |
| 23:09.46 | nmcbride | so while search what did I come accross? |
| 23:09.55 | nmcbride | python-cryptsetup in the fedora 11 repo... |
| 23:09.58 | stickster | Yup |
| 23:10.02 | nmcbride | ok |
| 23:10.03 | nmcbride | so |
| 23:10.12 | nmcbride | i extracted the rpm |
| 23:10.42 | nmcbride | and found that it is just a python package with helper functions and then a .so file which I assume is a c program? |
| 23:11.19 | stickster | Shared object file, a library of compiled C functions. |
| 23:11.30 | nmcbride | I have to learn how to make those lol |
| 23:11.37 | nmcbride | so i couldn't find any docs on how to use it |
| 23:11.40 | nmcbride | so i did a |
| 23:11.44 | nmcbride | "strings cryptsetup.so" |
| 23:12.03 | nmcbride | and basically got a print out of enough detail to clue me in on how to use it. |
| 23:12.38 | stickster | Did you try installing the source RPM? |
| 23:13.41 | nmcbride | i extracted it |
| 23:13.48 | nmcbride | this was at work on a non-rpm based distro |
| 23:13.52 | stickster | Ah. |
| 23:13.56 | nmcbride | gotta code when i get free time ;) |
| 23:14.08 | stickster | You can extract the tarball and the C source is in there. |
| 23:14.22 | nmcbride | there wasn't a tarbell in the rpm |
| 23:14.28 | stickster | In the src.rpm there is. |
| 23:14.29 | nmcbride | just that python module and .so file |
| 23:14.32 | nmcbride | oh right |
| 23:14.33 | nmcbride | ok |
| 23:14.35 | nmcbride | so other question |
| 23:14.42 | nmcbride | since i saw no other dependencies |
| 23:14.54 | nmcbride | i was just going to pack it into my app and add it to the path |
| 23:14.57 | nmcbride | but my app is mit |
| 23:15.05 | nmcbride | that python module is gpl2 |
| 23:15.09 | nmcbride | and not sure what that .so is? |
| 23:15.14 | nmcbride | so not sure if i can do that? |
| 23:17.21 | stickster | Have you read the licensing stuff at fsf.org concerning these issues? |
| 23:19.41 | stickster | http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#IfLibraryIsGPL |
| 23:21.42 | stickster | http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/index_html#GPLCompatibleLicenses |
| 23:21.52 | stickster | nmcbride: ^^ |
| 23:22.34 | stickster | Looks like you're OK because the so-called "MIT license" (make sure it matches "Expat License" or "X11 License" on the compatibility list) is GPL-compatible |
| 23:23.36 | nmcbride | oh nice :D |
| 23:23.46 | nmcbride | will I be looked down on for reusing those? |
| 23:23.50 | stickster | nmcbride: You'll need to check the license text to make sure it agrees with those |
| 23:25.51 | nmcbride | ya, gotcha |
| 23:25.59 | nmcbride | what about the reusing other's code aspect? |
| 23:27.05 | nmcbride | hmm the license im using is really short... |
| 23:27.08 | nmcbride | http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php |
| 23:29.11 | nmcbride | oh lol the text is exactly like the Expat license... |