| 02:39.13 | *** join/#fredlug plarsen (n=plarsen@67.166.188.224) |
| 03:25.08 | plarsen | anyone around? |
| 14:32.52 | *** join/#fredlug stickster (n=pfrields@ip72-205-14-2.dc.dc.cox.net) |
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| 18:55.39 | GGD | hey stickster |
| 18:55.43 | GGD | hey plarsen |
| 18:55.53 | stickster | Hey there |
| 18:56.05 | jsmith-teaching | Howdy, all! |
| 18:56.11 | GGD | how are things over there Paul |
| 18:56.16 | GGD | hey jsmith-teaching |
| 18:56.27 | plarsen | Hey GGD |
| 18:56.35 | GGD | i have a question about f12 for you stickster |
| 18:56.41 | plarsen | stickster: ARGH - of course the preupgrade script fails on my laptop :( |
| 18:56.43 | jsmith-teaching | loves his F12 |
| 18:56.54 | stickster | plarsen: Do you get an AttributeError? |
| 18:56.59 | plarsen | yup! |
| 18:57.10 | stickster | plarsen: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538118 |
| 18:57.11 | GGD | i saw the email thread on the novalug list |
| 18:57.23 | plarsen | AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'opts' |
| 18:57.35 | stickster | prepares to get on phone for meeting |
| 18:57.38 | plarsen | stickster: I downloaded the test version |
| 18:57.55 | plarsen | isn't sure the meeting he's supposed to be at 2 is even happening |
| 18:57.56 | stickster | plarsen: It doesn't fail for most people. I just ran it successfully on the workstation upstairs |
| 18:58.04 | stickster | But that bug tracks the problem |
| 18:58.07 | GGD | i downloaded f12 as well |
| 18:58.43 | GGD | but when i installed it on a clean system.. it installs only as a CLI OS and not the GUI.... is that normal? |
| 19:00.55 | GGD | any ideas? |
| 19:06.50 | GGD | stickster: ? plarsen |
| 19:06.51 | GGD | ? |
| 19:47.07 | GGD | hey jsmith-teaching |
| 19:51.58 | jsmith-teaching | GGD: Heading into another module... I should have some time in an hour or so |
| 19:52.16 | GGD | no prob |
| 19:52.31 | GGD | hit me up when you have some time |
| 20:21.27 | stickster | GGD: Did you install via text mode? |
| 20:22.32 | GGD | no |
| 20:22.41 | GGD | i installed it via gui mode |
| 20:22.55 | GGD | and when i reboot after installing |
| 20:22.59 | GGD | it goes to CLI |
| 20:24.57 | GGD | i attempt to do a startx and it doesn't work |
| 20:32.24 | GGD | stickster: anything i should try? |
| 20:32.42 | stickster | GGD: Make sure you don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file |
| 20:32.46 | stickster | What kind of video card is in this box? |
| 20:33.22 | stickster | (you can do 'lspci -nn | grep -i vga' to find out) |
| 20:36.44 | GGD | its an Inell chip card i think |
| 20:38.07 | stickster | GGD: You should be able to find out using the command above |
| 20:38.15 | stickster | Or just 'lspci -nn' -- in case I got the grep wrong |
| 20:38.23 | stickster | look for "video" or "VGA" in the output |
| 20:40.01 | GGD | ok hold on... |
| 20:47.20 | stickster | jsmith-teaching: There's an email waiting for you from someone famous :-) |
| 20:52.13 | plarsen | stickster: sorry, was called to a meeting |
| 20:58.22 | plarsen | stickster: manually removing the preupgrade cache and starting over again worked |
| 20:58.50 | plarsen | 1/1935 packages :) |
| 20:59.01 | jsmith-teaching | stickster: I noticed, but haven't had time to read it :-/ |
| 20:59.15 | jsmith-teaching | stickster: Wondering why someone famous would stoop down to my level, though |
| 20:59.38 | stickster | jsmith-teaching: Just a chance for you to provide a modicum of experience and testimonial |
| 20:59.46 | stickster | re: Fedora 12 on a MacBook |
| 20:59.50 | stickster | er, MacBook Pro |
| 20:59.55 | jsmith-teaching | Aye... gotcha |
| 21:00.05 | jsmith-teaching | I will go out of my way to help said famous person |
| 21:10.01 | GGD | question for anyone here,,, what is a good desktop OS? |
| 21:10.15 | GGD | F11? open suse? pclinux? |
| 21:16.36 | plarsen | GGD same answer as if you asked: What's a good car |
| 21:17.11 | plarsen | One of the real good things about linux is choices. Fedora comes with 4 main full-featured desktops out of the box. Choose your own "poison" so to speak. |
| 21:17.23 | plarsen | they differ in features and in how heavy they are to run |
| 21:18.01 | GGD | i know plarsen that its a time asked question and i understand your question and what you are trying to say |
| 21:18.26 | GGD | i have one running mint7 and the other has centos5.3 on it |
| 21:38.58 | jsmith-teaching | runs Fedora on his desktops and RHEL or CentOS on his servers |
| 21:45.24 | GGD | awesome jsmith-teaching |
| 21:45.27 | plarsen | dittos jsmith |
| 21:45.55 | plarsen | 1200/1935 ... getting there! :) |
| 21:46.36 | GGD | wow thats alot of files |
| 21:55.39 | plarsen | hopes the F12 upgrades fixes his nvidea "no 3D" problem |
| 22:15.10 | jsmith-teaching | plarsen: I don't think it will, unless you're using a closed driver. nouveau still doesn't do 3D, from what I understand |
| 22:15.52 | plarsen | I am used the closed driver - nouveau didn't work on the live image on my laptop, so I went for the closed driver for now. |
| 22:47.59 | stickster_afk | is really not here, but notes for plarsen anyway that RPMFusion has a kmod-nvidia package in their testing repo |
| 23:06.53 | plarsen | stickster_afk: that's the one I'm using |
| 23:07.10 | plarsen | stickster_afk: I'm gonna head out of here and when I boot up tonight I should be on F12 - wish me luck :) |