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| 14:58.44 | GGD | morning jsmith |
| 15:01.50 | jsmith | Morning GGD |
| 15:01.58 | jsmith | How's it going? |
| 15:02.02 | GGD | its gooing good |
| 15:02.12 | GGD | i am at home with the wife and such |
| 15:02.27 | GGD | praying that she doesn't have jobs for me to do... |
| 15:02.29 | GGD | LOL |
| 15:02.40 | jsmith | Good luck with that |
| 15:02.46 | GGD | lol thanks |
| 15:02.56 | jsmith | I'm down in my home office, trying to get work done... and trying to avoid the honey-do items as well |
| 15:03.13 | GGD | so you know exactly what i am trying NOT to do LOL |
| 15:04.53 | GGD | any word yet about the sat meetings? |
| 15:08.23 | jsmith | No idea |
| 15:08.47 | jsmith | I've been too busy to worry about it |
| 15:11.18 | GGD | ahh i see is everything ok? |
| 15:18.45 | jsmith | Yeah... just been very busy |
| 15:19.01 | GGD | ahh ok |
| 15:19.15 | jsmith | Between work and projects at home and helping my wife with some web development stuff, I haven't had time for extra-curricular activities |
| 15:21.12 | GGD | what porjects are you doing at home |
| 15:21.49 | jsmith | Putting a humidifier on our furnace and working on finishing my unfinished basement |
| 15:22.02 | jsmith | I'm also in the middle of putting up crown molding |
| 15:22.17 | GGD | do you need some help with taht? |
| 15:22.19 | GGD | hat |
| 15:22.55 | jsmith | I may need some help later, but I think I'm OK for right now |
| 15:23.12 | jsmith | My wife and I are able to do the crown molding by ourselves right now |
| 15:23.19 | GGD | ahh ok |
| 15:23.30 | jsmith | and my parents are flying out in January to help finish the framing in my basement. |
| 15:23.47 | GGD | ahh i see |
| 15:23.49 | jsmith | After the framing is finished, I should be able to finish up the electrical and plumbing pieces on my own, at my own pace |
| 15:24.35 | GGD | ahh i see and thats pretty easy thn |
| 15:24.39 | GGD | what are you going to put down there |
| 15:27.50 | jsmith | My office, a TV room, some storage, a guest bedroom, and the laundry room |
| 15:27.55 | jsmith | Oh, and a bathroom |
| 15:28.33 | GGD | not bad :) pretty much self contained? |
| 15:29.45 | jsmith | I'm not sure what you mean by "self contained" |
| 15:37.59 | GGD | LOL sleep clean clothes and a tv... and you can order take out from there as well |
| 15:41.23 | jsmith | I'm sure there are days when my wife wants to lock the door and keep me trapped in the dungeon here |
| 15:42.23 | GGD | LOL if w had something like that mine would do the same thing or perhaps jsut the opposite.. |
| 15:42.58 | GGD | *we |
| 15:49.02 | GGD | question what is a good Asterisks book to get |
| 15:49.12 | GGD | question what is a good Asterisk book to get |
| 15:55.51 | jsmith | www.asteriskdocs.org |
| 15:55.59 | jsmith | Go there, and download the free PDF of my Asterisk book |
| 15:56.38 | jsmith | Or buy it here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&camp=1789&tag=jennysmithnet-20&creative=9325&path=tg/detail/-/0596009623/ |
| 16:01.07 | GGD | first or second edition? |
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| 16:44.51 | jsmith | Howdy plarsen |
| 16:45.48 | plarsen | Happy New Year Jared! |
| 16:46.00 | plarsen | How are things in the 'burg this morning? |
| 16:49.10 | plarsen | jsmith: ping |
| 16:49.30 | jsmith | plarsen: I'm doing OK. Happy New Year to you as well! |
| 16:50.29 | plarsen | That's great. At least most of the snow is gone by now :) |
| 16:50.47 | plarsen | How's the VOIP business ? |
| 16:50.53 | jsmith | Doing well :-) |
| 16:51.04 | jsmith | We're still growing, and taking market share from the big boys |
| 16:51.29 | jsmith | In fact, if our growth continues, we'll have more new endpoints connected to Asterisk than to Nortel this year |
| 16:51.35 | jsmith | (and we overtook Cisco last year) |
| 16:55.59 | plarsen | wooohooo!! |
| 16:56.04 | plarsen | Way to go. |
| 16:56.15 | plarsen | Is that US or world-wide based? |
| 16:56.43 | plarsen | I have a feeling the US market is slow to move away from proparitary solutions like those from Avaya |
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| 17:12.53 | jsmith | That's in the US |
| 17:13.05 | jsmith | But we seem to be growing faster outside of the US |
| 17:13.11 | jsmith | So we'll see how things go |
| 17:22.12 | plarsen | jsmith: To me it's one of the biggest promises of OSS - "3rd world" countries. I read an article i Linux Magazine (I think it was) where they'd created a $100 mesh network device with VOIP using OSS (and asterisk of course) to give people in that area of the world (South Africa) a way to get a phone/network connection very very cheap. |
| 17:22.45 | plarsen | jsmith: To me that's where the OSS "revolution" is really going on. |
| 17:25.09 | jsmith | I tend to agree |
| 17:25.53 | jsmith | I wish I had the time and budget to play with the OpenBTS stuff more |
| 17:26.11 | plarsen | time is my problem too |
| 17:26.12 | jsmith | (combining Asterisk and a software-defined radio to create an inexpensive, mobile cell tower) |
| 17:26.23 | plarsen | Too much stuff out there that would be fun "playing" with. |
| 17:26.47 | plarsen | Gotta love breaking the barriers of proparitary software |
| 17:26.51 | plarsen | and "standards |
| 17:26.52 | plarsen | " |
| 20:53.20 | GGD | plarsen: do you mean mesh potato? |
| 20:53.40 | plarsen | yup - cute name they came up with |
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| 20:55.27 | GGD | i remember seeing that in one of the mags that i read about linux |
| 20:55.29 | GGD | linux pro or journal |
| 20:57.18 | GGD | i thought it was cute too but the idea and hardware is intreeaging |
| 20:57.30 | GGD | intreging ( i can't spell today) |
| 21:10.34 | plarsen | mumbles incohrently about ant not working .... |
| 21:11.35 | jsmith | Ah, still stuck in Java-land I see |
| 21:11.45 | jsmith | That's one thing I don't have much patience for, unfortunately |
| 21:12.03 | jsmith | I don't mind getting my hands dirty with VoIP and networking and DocBook and XML and a lot of technologies |
| 21:12.12 | jsmith | But for some reason, Java and I just don't get along in the slightest |
| 21:15.32 | plarsen | compared to other languages and deployment methodologies, I have a lot less problems with java. In this case, it's not really java but a <copy> that's not done correctly. It ignores a particular file and I don't know why |
| 21:16.22 | jsmith | Ugh... |
| 21:16.33 | jsmith | permissions? ACLs? typo? |
| 21:16.42 | jsmith | file creation date in the future? |
| 21:16.51 | jsmith | throws out all the obvious answers |
| 21:17.26 | plarsen | it's not a target rule. It simply tells it to copy "from this dir" to "this dir" and everything underneath |
| 21:17.33 | plarsen | and it takes everything but this ONE key file ;) |
| 21:18.44 | plarsen | -rw-r-----. 1 plarsen plarsen 921 2009-12-14 14:22 coherence-cache-config.xml |
| 21:18.53 | plarsen | pretty much just dated on the day it was installed |
| 21:19.48 | jsmith | Does it need to be marked as world readable? |
| 21:19.52 | plarsen | and ... |
| 21:19.54 | plarsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.55 | plarsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.57 | plarsen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.21 | plarsen | hmmmm |
| 21:22.00 | jsmith | Does it need slashes on the end of the dir and todir attributes? |
| 21:23.53 | plarsen | nope ... |
| 21:24.23 | plarsen | I can't figure ant out - the docs are inconsistent. Some say it unconditionally copies all underlying structures, other say only if there are changes etc. |
| 21:24.34 | plarsen | Well, the destination is deleted before anything is copied |
| 21:28.21 | plarsen | HEH - ok, it's not truely recursive. |
| 21:28.28 | plarsen | It only goes ONE level down |
| 21:28.48 | jsmith | That might explain some things |
| 21:29.26 | jsmith | <rsync flags="-av --progress" todir="${output.dir}/META-INF/wlevs"> |
| 21:29.32 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.35 | jsmith | </rsync> |
| 21:29.47 | jsmith | chuckes to himself, in Unix humor fashion |
| 21:30.20 | plarsen | lol |
| 21:30.55 | plarsen | WOW - I'm the only guy except for chanserv in the #ant channel ;) |
| 21:31.05 | plarsen | Pretty sure I won't get an answer there ... *grin* |
| 21:31.55 | jsmith | Hey, you could always do something like this to at least error out when the proper file doesn't get copied: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1791683/ant-force-error-on-missing-resource |
| 21:33.09 | jsmith | And, if I remember correctly, if you set the -v and -d options on the command line, it'll actually show you which files get copied, etc. |
| 21:33.22 | jsmith | (Don't quote me on that... it's been a long time since I used ANT) |
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| 21:38.14 | plarsen | jsmith: right I've been using that; but it doesn't say WHY it doesn't copy the file. It simply states what it is doing in details ;) |
| 21:42.45 | plarsen | I changed the pattern from * to ** - that got it ! |
| 21:45.49 | jsmith | Yet Another Pattern Matching Syntax? |
| 21:46.58 | plarsen | yay!! It deployed! ... wow, 2 hours to deploy 50 lines of code |
| 21:47.05 | plarsen | yeah - * is flat, ** is recursive |
| 21:47.29 | plarsen | not that intuative. |
| 21:47.48 | jsmith | No, not at all |
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