| 00:00.57 | *** join/#fredlug GGD (~GGD@ip72-196-241-104.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 00:04.51 | GGD | hey jsmith |
| 00:51.39 | *** join/#fredlug Grapeshot (~ted@pool-96-247-201-252.clppva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:52.16 | Grapeshot | GGD: What's up? |
| 01:10.36 | GGD | hey Grapeshot |
| 01:11.05 | Grapeshot | GGD: how are things? |
| 01:12.13 | GGD | good how are you |
| 01:13.10 | Grapeshot | GGD: pretty good. just chilling out and watching football. |
| 01:13.19 | GGD | i am looking at more info about what we talked about the last time we chatted |
| 01:13.22 | GGD | which game? |
| 01:13.25 | GGD | jets ravens? |
| 01:14.46 | Grapeshot | GGD: yeah - got the Raven D on one of my fantasy teams. |
| 01:14.57 | GGD | ahh i see |
| 01:15.14 | GGD | i was watching that before i found a show on force recon |
| 01:15.51 | Grapeshot | oh. which channel? |
| 01:16.00 | GGD | cox 55 |
| 01:16.02 | GGD | discovery |
| 01:16.21 | Grapeshot | GGD: Ah, Surviving the Cut. |
| 01:16.35 | Grapeshot | GGD: Did you hear about recon vs pirates the other day? |
| 01:16.45 | GGD | no i didn't |
| 01:16.52 | GGD | surving the cut yea |
| 01:17.10 | Grapeshot | GGD: http://blog.usni.org/2010/09/10/the-magellan-star/ |
| 01:17.30 | Grapeshot | GGD: from one of the guys in charge of the raid. |
| 01:17.44 | GGD | nice |
| 01:18.01 | Grapeshot | GGD: interesting read. |
| 01:18.16 | GGD | hey i prob will not make the SFD although i will make the fredlug meeting the next weekend thou |
| 01:18.21 | GGD | i have to do a fam thing |
| 01:18.25 | GGD | this weekend |
| 01:18.54 | Grapeshot | GGD: oh, that sux. |
| 01:19.00 | GGD | yea |
| 01:19.08 | GGD | but i still want the shirt... |
| 01:19.35 | Grapeshot | GGD: I got one here for you. I will bring it on Monday if you can make it. |
| 01:20.01 | Grapeshot | GGD: or the following weekend. |
| 01:20.39 | GGD | prob the following weekend as during the week is sorta tight for me as far as time |
| 01:20.54 | GGD | 17 bucks? |
| 01:21.15 | Grapeshot | yep |
| 01:22.21 | GGD | roger that.... |
| 01:23.07 | GGD | still looking for some red hat/linux/Fedora swag and perhaps some asterisk as well |
| 01:23.10 | GGD | ;) |
| 01:24.28 | Grapeshot | GGD: ask around the group. Jared or Paul may be able to hook you up. |
| 01:25.18 | GGD | i asked paul and he pointed me to the RH site with a cool bag i will have to check out.. and Jared said that he would see if he had anything.. |
| 01:25.44 | GGD | have you ever heard of alien? |
| 01:26.12 | Grapeshot | alien as in alienware? |
| 01:26.38 | GGD | no alien as in program |
| 01:26.46 | Grapeshot | GGD: nope |
| 01:27.08 | GGD | interesting... |
| 01:27.15 | GGD | i was reading about it |
| 01:27.26 | Grapeshot | GGD: got a link? |
| 01:27.34 | GGD | its a program that you can use to install deb packages to fedora |
| 01:27.36 | GGD | yea hold on |
| 01:28.04 | GGD | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/alien-use-any-package-any-distribution |
| 01:30.02 | Grapeshot | GGD: very cool. if you try it let me know how well it works. |
| 01:30.16 | GGD | i am looking into it |
| 01:30.40 | GGD | i think i didn't install the deb package thou but as you said it looks cool |
| 01:32.44 | GGD | i am having issues hou |
| 01:32.46 | GGD | thou |
| 01:34.12 | Grapeshot | oh, what kind? |
| 01:34.52 | GGD | issues with virtual machines |
| 01:36.00 | GGD | i can't seem to get the networking to work out |
| 01:36.28 | GGD | i can get the nat to work but when i do a direct connect it doesn't connect |
| 01:38.33 | Grapeshot | VMWare or virtualbox? |
| 01:39.14 | GGD | virtual box mainly but vmware as well |
| 01:42.31 | GGD | i got a lock up as well |
| 01:42.44 | GGD | also does anyone know how to install a tv card in F12 64 bit? |
| 01:42.56 | GGD | i have tried everything that i can think of |
| 01:43.15 | Grapeshot | haupauge? |
| 01:43.45 | Grapeshot | ivtv drivers seem to work with the majority of their cards. |
| 01:45.00 | GGD | yea haupuage... i can get it to work but no sound |
| 01:45.01 | GGD | thou |
| 01:45.15 | GGD | i have a wintv usb2 |
| 01:48.24 | Grapeshot | is it the pvr version (wintv pvr usb2)? |
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| 01:49.57 | GGD | i don't know it just says that on the hardware it could be... |
| 01:50.00 | GGD | hey IrishW0lf |
| 01:51.28 | Grapeshot | GGD: does it have a model number on it? |
| 01:51.43 | GGD | yea i think its a 420 |
| 01:51.46 | GGD | i think.. |
| 01:56.42 | Grapeshot | what are you using to view the stream? |
| 01:57.13 | GGD | me tv i think |
| 01:57.24 | GGD | or.. something like that |
| 02:03.10 | Grapeshot | ubuntu? |
| 02:04.18 | GGD | fedora |
| 02:04.27 | GGD | 12 64 bit |
| 02:06.41 | Grapeshot | Can you try to adjust the audio bitrate down to 224? |
| 02:07.20 | GGD | perhaps |
| 02:07.29 | GGD | but i don't get any sound what so ever |
| 02:07.36 | GGD | i can see the vid but nothing.. |
| 02:09.51 | Grapeshot | yeah - read on a mythtv forum that there are problems with some of the WinTV USB sticks running audio at above 224. |
| 02:10.42 | GGD | ahh |
| 02:10.48 | GGD | but its an older model |
| 02:10.52 | GGD | its not a stick persay |
| 02:12.47 | Grapeshot | this one? http://www.zapsonline.com/43642-29806-large/hauppauge-wintv-usb-2-analog-tv-soft-pvr-fm-external-tuner-pitv-usb2fm.jpg |
| 02:13.11 | GGD | exactly like that |
| 02:13.43 | Grapeshot | heh, try lowering the audio bitrate if you can. |
| 02:14.10 | GGD | ok will do. |
| 02:14.24 | GGD | what do you use to view it? me tv? |
| 02:16.38 | Grapeshot | the only tuner I have is in my mythtv (mythdora) box. xawtv may work. |
| 02:16.59 | GGD | how do you like that? |
| 02:17.58 | Grapeshot | mythdora - very cool. |
| 02:18.34 | Grapeshot | I will probably bring it to the library on the 25th. |
| 02:19.55 | GGD | i would love to see it |
| 02:20.02 | Grapeshot | OK. |
| 02:20.05 | GGD | i am looking into something like that when i get my house |
| 02:20.20 | GGD | i am looking to wire it with cat 6 cable and such |
| 02:20.28 | Grapeshot | nice. |
| 02:20.34 | GGD | any pointers? |
| 02:21.03 | GGD | video |
| 02:21.06 | GGD | phone |
| 02:21.07 | GGD | security |
| 02:21.10 | GGD | audio |
| 02:21.11 | GGD | etc |
| 02:21.53 | Grapeshot | mythdora kinda handles all of it - like a Fedora install. |
| 02:22.06 | Grapeshot | Chargers/Chiefs just started. gotta go. |
| 02:22.49 | GGD | ok have a good night |
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| 14:09.59 | IW-afk | is away: Gone away for now |
| 14:10.57 | IrishW0lf | is back. |
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| 18:30.16 | GGD | helllo plarsen |
| 18:30.19 | GGD | js |
| 18:30.22 | GGD | jsmith: |
| 18:30.25 | GGD | and stickster |
| 18:31.09 | jsmith | Howdy GGD |
| 18:31.31 | GGD | wow he is alive i thought you were off in no mans land :) |
| 18:31.41 | jsmith | Not until tomorrow :-p |
| 18:32.02 | GGD | lol where are you leaving for tommarrow? |
| 18:32.07 | plarsen | howdy |
| 18:32.37 | GGD | hey plarsen question for you.. is there a open source p2v software that you know of that i can get? |
| 18:34.05 | plarsen | GGD, O javem |
| 18:34.07 | plarsen | ups |
| 18:34.10 | plarsen | wrong finger positins |
| 18:34.26 | GGD | ups? |
| 18:34.28 | GGD | lol |
| 18:34.31 | plarsen | GGD, none that I've used. I mostly do the P2V manually. Even the commercial ones aren't really working. |
| 18:34.51 | plarsen | I did see a mention of something on KVM/Qemu that could convert file formats. |
| 18:35.03 | plarsen | But I doubt it does OS modifications |
| 18:35.31 | plarsen | If you have the capacity a simple dd will do fine |
| 18:35.42 | GGD | ahh |
| 18:35.50 | GGD | i was looking at virt-p2v |
| 18:35.52 | plarsen | problems arise when it comes to making the disks smaller; and retaining MAC addresses etc. |
| 18:36.04 | plarsen | sure - dd still works. |
| 18:36.07 | GGD | and i am not sure if it works corectly |
| 18:36.39 | plarsen | fire of an empty vm, plug in a rescue disk, give it an ip. Do an nc | dd from the physical server. On the physical you setup dd | nc -l |
| 18:36.49 | plarsen | fire up |
| 18:37.10 | plarsen | your issue is if the disk on the physical is like 1TB and not using most of it. |
| 18:37.18 | plarsen | then it becomes a bit more "fun". |
| 18:37.26 | GGD | its a 80 gig disk |
| 18:37.55 | GGD | and i want to virtualize it |
| 18:37.58 | GGD | if i can |
| 18:39.15 | GGD | hey jsmith do you have any asterisk swag? |
| 18:39.43 | plarsen | GGD, you definitely can. One of the advantages of virtualization is that you can cut your desk usage but not having to over-allocate |
| 18:39.46 | jsmith | GGD: I probably have a bit |
| 18:39.57 | plarsen | So if you're only using 50G for instance, you can allocate ONLY 50G |
| 18:40.33 | GGD | nice i think i am using 30 gig of a 80 gig windows hd |
| 18:40.40 | GGD | plarsen: |
| 18:40.52 | GGD | jsmith: could i get some from you?? please? |
| 18:41.03 | plarsen | Right and that's where the challenge is in P2V |
| 18:41.50 | GGD | plarsen: i would love to pare it down to the 30 gig so that i am not wasting space on my Virtual server |
| 18:41.53 | jsmith | GGD: How soon do you need them? |
| 18:42.00 | jsmith | GGD: I'm leaving in the morning for Zurich |
| 18:42.15 | GGD | jsmith: when are you going to be back from there? |
| 18:42.34 | jsmith | GGD: Late on the 20th |
| 18:42.50 | GGD | jsmith: nect fredlug meeting? |
| 18:43.01 | jsmith | GGD: That should work |
| 18:43.14 | GGD | awesome |
| 18:43.25 | GGD | Zurich for business or fun? |
| 18:43.31 | jsmith | FWIW, stickster has some extra swag for SFD from Fedora |
| 18:43.36 | jsmith | GGD: Fedora conference |
| 18:43.37 | plarsen | GGD, that would mean doing a logical copy; or setup a temporary space first. Create lvm on it. Make the first LV 80G to fit the whole disk. Copy over raw. Then do a resize2fs to make the temporary partition 30G, and dd it over to the real disk of your VM |
| 18:43.44 | plarsen | then you delete the temporary disk |
| 18:44.25 | GGD | jsmith: nice.. i could love to get both sets if i can... |
| 18:44.31 | plarsen | Were we doing somekind of install fest at SFD too? |
| 18:44.36 | plarsen | I think someone mentioned that |
| 18:44.55 | GGD | plarsen: i think ted is bringing his cobbler server |
| 18:45.13 | plarsen | That would be at the library thou? |
| 18:45.38 | GGD | yes |
| 18:45.52 | plarsen | How far is the cupcake place from the library? |
| 18:46.30 | GGD | thats a good question as i have never been there personall |
| 18:46.34 | GGD | jsmith: ? |
| 18:46.39 | jsmith | stickster: Do you need anything else from Fedora for SFD? |
| 18:48.32 | plarsen | Do we have enough tables/chairs etc. for the street location? |
| 18:48.42 | GGD | jsmith: is he here? |
| 18:49.09 | jsmith | GGD: Yeah, he got back from OLF last night... he's in a phone meeting now (w/ me!) |
| 18:49.18 | GGD | olf? |
| 18:49.20 | GGD | LOL |
| 18:49.27 | GGD | hellooooo stickster |
| 18:50.07 | jsmith | OLF = Ohio Linux Fest |
| 18:50.19 | plarsen | I think he said we would be away most of today |
| 18:50.32 | GGD | ahh |
| 18:50.48 | GGD | i didn't know i figured that jsmith would say hello to stickster from both of us |
| 18:51.03 | plarsen | Didn't OLF end yesterday? |
| 18:51.13 | plarsen | Or is that next week? |
| 18:52.28 | jsmith | Ended yesterday |
| 18:52.56 | plarsen | yeah - I may be loosing my mind - but it's not that bad yet ;) |
| 18:53.23 | GGD | dont we all plarsen at some point? |
| 18:56.32 | plarsen | So do we need more tables/chairs for Saturday? |
| 19:00.22 | stickster | can bring a couple folding chairs |
| 19:00.38 | plarsen | can bring chairs and a table |
| 20:17.44 | GGD | hey plarsen what if we wanted to do a PXE boot of that? |
| 20:18.11 | plarsen | sorry GGD - PXE of what? |
| 20:18.35 | GGD | the p2v.. its ok i went a way for a while working on other things |
| 20:19.39 | plarsen | Not sure I see the relation of PXE and P2V? |
| 20:20.26 | stickster | plarsen: The cupcake place is several blocks past CAH |
| 20:20.39 | stickster | So it's about three times as far from library -> Cupcakes as library -> CAH |
| 20:20.58 | GGD | hellooo stickster |
| 20:21.10 | plarsen | hmmm - so on the other end of caroline street ? |
| 20:21.34 | stickster | correct |
| 20:22.48 | plarsen | I guess we can tell people to go grab their PCs and return to the library. But I think we'll need two teams then? |
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