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12:47.32 | GGD | morning stickster jsmith nmcbride |
12:48.01 | stickster | morning all |
12:58.04 | GGD | hey stickster |
12:58.27 | GGD | who knew that filling your HD would cause your machine not to boot :D |
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14:28.37 | GGD | stickster, ? |
14:28.49 | stickster | What's up GGD? |
14:29.01 | GGD | wow that was odd |
14:29.11 | GGD | i was on here and then i was off... |
14:29.24 | GGD | did you get my messages earlier? |
14:30.45 | GGD | ( am just checking) |
14:48.01 | stickster | GGD: I don't know what messages you're referring to, so maybe not ;-) |
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14:56.52 | GGD | ahh |
14:56.58 | GGD | who knew that filling your HD would cause your machine not to boot :D |
14:57.12 | GGD | that was one of them :) |
14:58.33 | stickster | I saw that, was I supposed to respond? |
14:59.42 | GGD | oh ok i wasn't sure that it came through,,, |
15:00.50 | GGD | and then after that it said "GGD has quit" and i was like quit i am right here strange.. |
15:02.43 | GGD | odd... |
15:02.57 | GGD | now if can keep my laptop from over heating.. |
15:03.00 | stickster | Maybe a netsplit or other network error? |
15:03.17 | stickster | You may want to look into whether your system fan is working. How old's the laptop? |
15:04.39 | GGD | its the one that we rebuilt at install fest |
15:04.48 | GGD | the black HP one |
15:05.03 | GGD | the system fan is working.. |
15:05.47 | stickster | Hm, that's quite weird then |
15:06.06 | stickster | Could it be a problem with the onboard video? That's been known to happen with some nVidia and ATI units. |
15:06.31 | stickster | May want to check mfr's site for any recommendations, or call their support if you're within warranty. |
15:07.13 | GGD | it started happening after the last linux/ fedora updates. i never had the issue before |
15:07.16 | GGD | i think.. |
15:07.42 | GGD | i am not trying to blame the OS just trying to narrow down the culplrit |
15:09.03 | plarsen | yawns |
15:09.15 | stickster | GGD: If 'top' doesn't show anything hogging CPU, it'Unlikely to be anything other than kernel, and if you're having the same problem with the earlier kernel |
15:09.17 | stickster | oops |
15:09.50 | stickster | GGD: If 'top' doesn't show anything hogging CPU, it's unlikely to be anything other than kernel. If you've tried booting the earlier kernel and still have the problem, then it's unlikely the updates are the cause. |
15:10.20 | GGD | ahh ok let me check why the yawn plarsen ? |
15:10.30 | stickster | is on F14 with all updates and hasn't noticed any general problems of this sort. |
15:10.36 | stickster | GGD: It's morning. |
15:10.43 | plarsen | Early morning |
15:10.47 | plarsen | Long week coming to an end |
15:10.49 | plarsen | finally |
15:10.52 | stickster | plarsen: right on |
15:11.17 | GGD | LOL yes it is stickster and a wonderful snowy morning it is |
15:11.25 | GGD | what am i looking for in the 'top" |
15:11.26 | stickster | plarsen: Hope your new job is treating you well :-) |
15:11.28 | plarsen | I'm fairly sure we all "agree" that our Dec/Sat meeting isn't going to happen ? |
15:11.41 | plarsen | stares at all the screens and papers infront of him |
15:11.49 | plarsen | Definitely NOT bored :) |
15:11.49 | stickster | GGD: System load at the top. The first number shouldn't be terribly high, definitely less than 0.50 |
15:11.49 | GGD | new job?? |
15:11.56 | plarsen | puts on his Red Hat |
15:11.59 | stickster | GGD: Unless you're doing something very CPU-demanding currently |
15:12.04 | plarsen | which btw. hasn't arrived yet :( |
15:12.20 | GGD | Red Hat? |
15:12.26 | plarsen | yup |
15:12.59 | GGD | no way congrats man |
15:13.08 | GGD | stickster, http://fpaste.org/nppB/ |
15:13.09 | plarsen | thanks GGD |
15:13.11 | GGD | thats the top |
15:13.29 | GGD | <- feels very very small here |
15:13.33 | stickster | GGD: The rest of the output would be useful since that load is slightly high for an idle system |
15:13.46 | plarsen | That's a pretty busy box GGD. Is the US% always that high? |
15:13.58 | plarsen | slighty? lol |
15:14.02 | plarsen | slightly* |
15:14.25 | plarsen | Most average systems are never higher than 10% except at quick peeks |
15:14.29 | plarsen | peaks* |
15:14.36 | GGD | i don't have anything "major" running |
15:14.44 | GGD | firefox |
15:14.47 | GGD | xchat |
15:14.50 | GGD | empathy |
15:15.09 | plarsen | GGD: when top is running, hit P (caps is important) - that sorts the list per CPU consumption. |
15:15.15 | GGD | ok |
15:15.18 | plarsen | What is the top CPU consumer? |
15:15.27 | plarsen | puts his bet on flash |
15:16.00 | GGD | "plugin container" |
15:16.03 | jsmith | On my system, it's GCC :-p |
15:16.13 | GGD | second is firefox |
15:16.35 | stickster | yup |
15:16.46 | plarsen | GGD: ok - a good chance that you're looking at npviewer (flash) there. Terminate all firefox programs. |
15:16.54 | GGD | stand by |
15:16.56 | stickster | Or just 'killall npviewer.bin' |
15:17.08 | plarsen | Then wait a bit. If that top "container" doesn't go away, kill it - just the way stickster said to do it |
15:17.23 | GGD | firefox is killed |
15:17.25 | plarsen | Before starting firefox again, verify that US% has dropped to less than 15% |
15:18.16 | GGD | 0-2% |
15:18.27 | GGD | US% |
15:18.31 | GGD | now |
15:18.38 | plarsen | :) Very good. Start firefox again |
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15:18.49 | plarsen | You shouldn't see US% staying high even with firefox running |
15:18.51 | GGD | now its Xorg the top compeditor |
15:18.55 | GGD | :) |
15:19.03 | plarsen | The npviewer is a different matter. It's a BAAAD piece of code. |
15:19.18 | GGD | ok restarting firefox |
15:19.59 | GGD | jumped to 51% |
15:20.27 | GGD | now 71-3$ |
15:20.32 | GGD | 3% |
15:20.40 | GGD | 75 |
15:20.43 | plarsen | Peaks are ok;expected. |
15:20.54 | plarsen | As long as it doesn't STAY high |
15:21.02 | GGD | now 50 -54 |
15:21.11 | GGD | yea |
15:21.36 | GGD | that plugin container is still the top compeditor |
15:21.38 | GGD | now |
15:21.56 | GGD | then irefox at 15 % |
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15:22.53 | GGD | hey marwalk |
15:23.01 | marwalk | hi GGD |
15:23.09 | GGD | how goes it.. |
15:23.29 | GGD | hey plarsen any idea about that "plugin container"? |
15:23.42 | marwalk | going well. am ending up 2 wks of leave and enjoying my projects |
15:24.34 | plarsen | GGD: you must be going to a site that uses flash when you start firefox. |
15:24.37 | marwalk | I have another fredpod prepared, just need to record it; should be done by monday |
15:24.55 | GGD | gmail? |
15:24.58 | GGD | yahoo mail? |
15:25.30 | plarsen | Are you running 64bit fedora or 32bit ? |
15:25.52 | plarsen | GGD: if you're not blocking adds then yahoo is a good candidate for flash |
15:26.12 | GGD | its the pro version |
15:26.23 | GGD | i am running 64 bit |
15:27.49 | plarsen | GGD: did you follow the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash guide installing flash? |
15:28.12 | GGD | actually i think paul did when you all reloaded fedora... |
15:28.24 | GGD | don't you remember stickster ? |
15:28.45 | plarsen | Ohhh I'm sure he remembers your laptop. Whether he likes to is another matter ;) |
15:29.03 | GGD | LOL |
15:29.05 | stickster | Yes, we set it up the normal way. Flash consumes more CPU than one would expect just about everywhere, but it depends entirely on what you're viewing with the plugin! |
15:29.27 | GGD | oh don't we all remember that day plarsen ..... |
15:29.37 | GGD | true |
15:29.39 | GGD | stickster, |
15:29.43 | stickster | If you look at a site that uses Flash in a fairly smart way, the CPU consumption will be pretty low. If it's most ads... not so much ;-) |
15:29.54 | stickster | recommends Flashblock to stop unwanted Flash/CPU usage |
15:30.09 | GGD | where do i get that stickster |
15:32.44 | GGD | ahh its a firefox addin? |
15:34.39 | GGD | dang that made a big difference |
15:34.42 | GGD | stickster, |
15:34.48 | stickster | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=flashblock |
15:35.26 | plarsen | LMAO!!! |
15:35.27 | GGD | i got it stickster installed |
15:35.31 | stickster | awesome |
15:35.31 | plarsen | you didn't just do that stickster ... :) |
15:35.40 | stickster | thinks that site is totally funny |
15:35.50 | GGD | i actually googled it before you threw that up there |
15:35.53 | GGD | LOL |
15:35.54 | stickster | heh |
15:36.08 | GGD | 7% now |
15:36.12 | GGD | roughly |
15:37.36 | GGD | and the fan isn't running as hard now :) |
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16:10.18 | GGD | wow even with a vm running its not hitting anything like it was when flash is running |
16:41.21 | plarsen | anyone know of a tool to merge PDFs into a single document? |
16:45.29 | jsmith | Sure! |
16:45.34 | jsmith | pdftk |
16:45.48 | jsmith | pdftk 1.pdf 2.pdf 3.pdf 4.pdf cat output combined.pdf |
16:45.56 | jsmith | loves pdftk |
16:46.11 | jsmith | pdfmerge (part of pdfjam, if I remember correctly) sometimes works as well |
16:53.46 | plarsen | I tried "convert" that was a disaster. Could barely read the resulting doc |
16:55.33 | jsmith | Yeah, that's not the right way :-/ |
16:57.01 | plarsen | yeah - pdftk muuuch better :) |
17:04.14 | plarsen | I've trying to practice presentation/timing skills. I need to time how long I'm on each slide and I need to have a RECORD of it to review once I'm done yacking (time per slide). Any ideas with open office? |
17:08.14 | jsmith | Sure... |
17:08.28 | jsmith | Plug in a second monitor, and run the 'presenter view' on one screen |
17:08.34 | jsmith | It has timers |
17:08.39 | plarsen | right - but they are not recorded ;) |
17:08.45 | jsmith | Another option is to use something like gtk-record-my-desktop or istanbul |
17:09.11 | jsmith | (I like to do that, and then add speaker notes as I review the recording) |
17:11.26 | plarsen | hmmmm |
17:12.10 | plarsen | Guess what's not included in RHEL6 ;) |
17:12.20 | jsmith | has no idea |
17:12.27 | plarsen | Screen recorders |
17:18.49 | marwalk | plarsen Peter, I'd think that Istanbul should work for you. That way you're not trying to tweak Open Office |
17:19.25 | plarsen | marwalk: unfortunately it's not available on the box I have here; I'll figure something out. |
17:20.15 | marwalk | I was just wondering too if it's only on fedora; looks like thats the case; can you look a the CentOS repsitories and perhaps install that on RHEL6? |
17:21.21 | marwalk | it's not rpmfusion but rpm something else; can't remember the other CentOS repsistories right now |
17:21.37 | marwalk | rpmforge that's it |
18:07.55 | GGD | has anyone used qmake? |
18:07.57 | GGD | before? |
18:09.48 | GGD | i am trying to install something and when the instructions say to use "qmake" i get a program can not be found |
18:11.55 | stickster | GGD: yum provides \*bin/qmake |
18:12.11 | stickster | that will tell you which if any packages in the repository bundle a qmake binary. |
18:12.27 | stickster | It may be several and you'll need to install the right one for your program (Qt3 or Qt4) |
18:12.46 | GGD | hmmm |
18:14.46 | GGD | i am trying to install Kontrolpack and its asking for that |
20:19.31 | plarsen | stickster: you there? |
20:21.54 | stickster | plarsen: Here |
20:22.11 | plarsen | Is there a live option for RHEL6 workstation? |
20:31.59 | stickster | plarsen: Hm, I don't recall that being in the release |
20:34.03 | plarsen | me neighter |
20:34.18 | plarsen | Got a collegue here who's just discovered Live CDs and wants to go all the way ;) |