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| 01:27.38 | Moe__ | plarsen: hey how are you |
| 01:27.59 | plarsen | hey Moe__ - doing good. How about you? |
| 01:28.04 | Moe__ | good |
| 01:28.11 | Moe__ | trying out F16 |
| 01:28.21 | Moe__ | PXE |
| 01:28.41 | plarsen | Haven't had much time with F16 myself yet. |
| 01:28.47 | Moe__ | having a lttle boot issue on one of my PCs |
| 01:29.08 | Moe__ | fdisk -l complaining about a gpt partiotion |
| 01:29.41 | plarsen | yup. Fdisk doesn't support gpt |
| 01:29.50 | plarsen | but parted does |
| 01:30.03 | Moe__ | parted is newer? |
| 01:31.02 | plarsen | hmmmm - fdisk was "invented" in the way early 80'ies if not late 70'ies. Parted is a script friendly partition editor program |
| 01:31.12 | plarsen | And it has abilities outside the "dos" ideas. |
| 01:31.35 | Moe__ | Windows seems to dislike GPT as well. I couldnt dual boot because of it |
| 01:32.21 | plarsen | yeah. |
| 01:32.28 | plarsen | There were rumors once that Windows7 would support it |
| 01:32.43 | plarsen | The old MBR type partitions are a hazzle to Windows too |
| 01:32.52 | plarsen | Too much baggage to carry around |
| 01:32.57 | Moe__ | I have a developer copy of Windows 8, and it was not lining the GPT partition |
| 01:33.07 | Moe__ | liking^ |
| 01:33.23 | plarsen | yeah, they decided not to go that way |
| 01:33.32 | plarsen | MS is not known to embrace standards ;) |
| 01:33.38 | Moe__ | true |
| 01:33.49 | Moe__ | they came up with their own DNS implemntation |
| 01:34.16 | plarsen | heh - even their own TCP stack |
| 01:34.34 | plarsen | they were forced to change that. but the early versions were not standards based. |
| 01:35.13 | Moe__ | I figured out what my LDAP problem was from the other night |
| 01:35.27 | Moe__ | 389 admin server was placing the ssl cert in the wrong location |
| 01:35.35 | Moe__ | that is why I couldnt get the server to start |
| 01:36.26 | plarsen | :) |
| 01:36.45 | plarsen | Yeah - not all apps has figured out pki and the standard way of locating certs |
| 01:37.22 | Moe__ | I want to be able to "sell" linux as an enterprise client server solution. No reason for M$ to have all of the fun |
| 01:38.30 | plarsen | heh - I don't think I've heard the expression "client server" in years ... almost forgot about it ;) |
| 01:38.38 | Moe__ | DoD |
| 01:38.57 | Moe__ | cloud is to risky for us |
| 01:39.44 | plarsen | There are many types of cloud. You don't necessarily need to go public cloud. |
| 01:40.01 | plarsen | If you have enough internal use and mind-share, you can create a private cloud |
| 01:40.15 | plarsen | And still get the benefits |
| 01:40.21 | Moe__ | I see |
| 01:40.33 | Moe__ | sharepoint is sort of a "cloud" |
| 01:40.50 | plarsen | Pleeeaze .... ;) |
| 01:41.01 | Moe__ | lol |
| 01:41.29 | Moe__ | for us anyway |
| 01:45.06 | Moe__ | you work for Red Hat dont you? |
| 01:45.34 | plarsen | Yes |
| 01:45.42 | Moe__ | what do you do for them? |
| 01:45.51 | plarsen | Solutions Architect for JBoss |
| 01:46.15 | Moe__ | what exactly is JBoss? |
| 01:46.29 | plarsen | Middleware |
| 01:46.50 | plarsen | Application Server, SOA, BRMS, Portal, messaging, monitoring etc. |
| 01:47.53 | Moe__ | what would it be similar to in the MS world? |
| 01:48.53 | plarsen | hmmmm - I don't think MS has JEE frameworks. They have their proprietary .NET stuff. Runs on windows only, with windows clients only. JEE runs everywhere on every type of client and a lot of servers, including MS |
| 01:49.10 | Moe__ | ahh .net |
| 01:49.20 | Moe__ | I see |
| 02:36.48 | Moe__ | plarsen: are we having a release event for F16? |
| 02:37.43 | plarsen | We as in FredLug? Nope - not that I know of |
| 02:42.09 | plarsen | Feel free to suggest something like that |
| 02:42.22 | plarsen | HOWEVER - we're done with the Saturday meetings for this year (I need to update the calendar) |
| 02:42.34 | plarsen | The Monday meetings may continue though |
| 02:43.55 | Moe__ | ok |
| 02:48.51 | Moe__ | @release |
| 02:49.17 | Moe__ | @eol |
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