| 01:08.10 | murb | moien |
| 01:49.07 | dank_work | Morning |
| 01:52.20 | Tarragon | Morning |
| 01:59.52 | dank_work | Have you seen the i386 Linux kernel DoS posted to Bugtraq last night? |
| 02:02.19 | murb | what was the subject? |
| 02:07.28 | dank_work | 'i386 Linux kernel DoS' |
| 02:13.08 | murb | I've not got that yet. |
| 02:13.32 | dank_work | Ah, okay. |
| 02:14.55 | dank_work | I don't have a sacrificial Linux box handy to test it out on |
| 02:16.50 | murb | I have plenty, but not the email. |
| 02:18.44 | dank_work | Ah. Do you want to test it out? |
| 02:22.20 | murb | ok. |
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| 04:30.29 | highbury | hell, I find just formatting a floppy is pretty effective, everything else stops, mouse keyboard, etc |
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| 04:49.31 | highbury | Hi formi |
| 04:49.58 | formi | morning |
| 05:07.49 | dank_work | Hi |
| 05:08.44 | formi | dank |
| 05:09.01 | formi | i found what was the problem whith X |
| 05:09.27 | formi | but no solution in sight |
| 05:16.57 | dank_work | Ah. What's the problem? |
| 05:17.34 | formi | basically its trying to drive the monitor at odd frecuencies |
| 05:18.01 | dank_work | Ah. It should pick up the monitor, though, and just drive it at 'normal' frequencies |
| 05:18.07 | formi | i found out because i plugged in an old monitor, with no protection |
| 05:18.38 | formi | I could see the image but the monitor was wheezing like mad |
| 05:18.54 | formi | when i tried my 17" it just switched off |
| 05:19.25 | formi | It should pick up the monitor, well it doesnt |
| 05:19.26 | dank_work | Ah |
| 05:19.37 | dank_work | Is this a laptop? |
| 05:19.46 | formi | if i give it safe modelines it ignores them |
| 05:19.47 | formi | yes |
| 05:19.57 | dank_work | Bring it to the next gllug, then |
| 05:20.42 | formi | i thought just the HorizSync and VertRefresh were enough |
| 05:21.08 | dank_work | It should be. You specified the correct range? |
| 05:21.21 | formi | i specified many ranges |
| 05:22.21 | formi | Section "Monitor" |
| 05:22.21 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:22.21 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:22.21 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:22.21 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:22.21 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:22.25 | formi | EndSection |
| 05:22.32 | formi | that is what im running now on mandrake |
| 05:22.41 | dank_work | Right. And that works? |
| 05:22.51 | formi | flawlesly |
| 05:23.16 | dank_work | And you've got the same in FreeBSD? |
| 05:23.17 | formi | i ported my mdk XFConfig and it missbehaves anyway |
| 05:23.32 | dank_work | Ahhhh.......what version of XFree are you using with FreeBSD? |
| 05:23.47 | formi | exactly the same as in mdk |
| 05:23.52 | formi | 4.2.1 |
| 05:25.10 | formi | the only difference is that mdk loads the vi4l module |
| 05:25.10 | dank_work | Hmm. |
| 05:25.23 | dank_work | Shouldn't make a difference. |
| 05:26.11 | formi | i used to have the same problem in previous mdk releases, where i had to use 3.3.6 |
| 05:26.26 | formi | but it dissapered with 9.0, |
| 05:27.25 | formi | never managed to make it work with the trident driver, only with the vesa one |
| 05:29.06 | dank_work | Ahh. |
| 05:31.37 | formi | door bell, back in 5 |
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| 05:35.11 | dank_work | Hi Leeds |
| 05:35.19 | Leeds | yes! |
| 05:35.22 | Leeds | afternoon... |
| 05:35.38 | dank_work | Just got in to work? |
| 05:36.08 | Leeds | not quite... |
| 05:36.16 | Leeds | I've been in... oh, almost an hour now |
| 05:36.19 | dank_work | :) |
| 05:36.54 | Leeds | I'll be in late though... |
| 05:37.16 | Leeds | my LOTR special edition turned up this morning - they're lucky I'm not 7 hours late :-) |
| 05:37.38 | dank_work | The 4-DVD set? |
| 05:39.04 | highbury | how much did it cost in the end? |
| 05:39.16 | Leeds | 22.50 |
| 05:39.20 | dank_work | Bargain. |
| 05:39.22 | dank_work | Where from? |
| 05:39.25 | Leeds | play.com |
| 05:39.36 | highbury | £38.99 in Tesco |
| 05:39.48 | dank_work | Ooh. So, what does the 4-DVD set offer, apart from the main movie? |
| 05:39.53 | Leeds | careful - there are two special editions |
| 05:40.25 | Leeds | one has bookends and costs (RRP) 40+, the other doesn't have bookends and costs (RRP) 30+ |
| 05:40.27 | dank_work | A 2-DVD and a 4-DVD, isn't it? |
| 05:40.37 | Leeds | nope... |
| 05:40.37 | dank_work | Right. And which did you get? |
| 05:40.57 | Leeds | 4-DVD, without bookends. I've already got the 2-DVD set, bought for me as a present |
| 05:41.11 | dank_work | Cool. So is the only difference the bookends? |
| 05:41.35 | Leeds | the only difference between the 4-DVD sets, AFAIK, yes |
| 05:42.18 | Leeds | the 4-DVD set has 30 minutes more footage in the film (complete with score, effects, etc.), plus 4 commentaries |
| 05:42.37 | Leeds | plus a shit-load of making-of stuff on the other 2 DVDs - the film is now split over 2 disks! |
| 05:43.15 | highbury | so you are happy with play.com ? |
| 05:43.17 | dank_work | Cool. Is it worth getting? (my only DVD player that'll connect to the TV is in my Powerbook) |
| 05:43.56 | Leeds | highbury: pretty much... not the quickest delivery, but they don't charge for it, so you can't really complain... they sell R1 and R2 DVDs, and they're pretty cheap |
| 05:44.57 | highbury | I'm waiting till they finish the series, then I'll get the 12 DVD set with matching Bookshelf! |
| 05:45.01 | Leeds | dank_work: if you're a LOTR geek, it's well worth it (for 22.50, not the 30 or so RRP) - if not, maybe not |
| 05:45.05 | Leeds | highbury: :-) |
| 05:45.15 | dank_work | I enjoyed the film, and the book. |
| 05:45.29 | Leeds | I'm looking forward to spending a day at the cinema watching all of them back-to-back - seriously... |
| 05:45.36 | dank_work | Currently trying to read Silmarillion, but not getting enough time (and finding I'm too tired to concentrate on it) |
| 05:45.54 | dank_work | Leeds: That'd be cool. Well, with about 30 mins. break between each film |
| 05:46.07 | highbury | I want to see a version of Stephen Donaldson's Tales of Thomas Covenant, much more grown up than Tolkien |
| 05:46.15 | Leeds | dank_work: there are things in the special edition which are noticably missing from the 'theatrical' version, and the commentary sounds interesting, what I saw of it... |
| 05:47.06 | dank_work | Did anyone see the remake of The Time Machine? |
| 05:48.12 | Leeds | nope |
| 05:48.32 | highbury | waiting for it on free-to-view Sky |
| 05:51.21 | highbury | anybody here understand html styles? |
| 05:52.49 | dank_work | Nope |
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| 09:48.43 | idoru | Leeds: ping? |
| 09:48.51 | Leeds | hey! :-) |
| 09:48.58 | idoru | hiya. |
| 09:49.06 | Leeds | are you in/around London? |
| 09:49.15 | idoru | no, Belfast. |
| 09:49.22 | Leeds | ah :-) |
| 09:49.32 | Leeds | hang on... I'm sure I saw something on bash.sh the other day... |
| 09:49.54 | idoru | the box is andy's |
| 09:50.36 | Leeds | andy? |
| 09:50.44 | idoru | um... |
| 09:50.46 | idoru | cpufreak |
| 09:50.54 | idoru | on lots of IRC channels... |
| 09:51.06 | Leeds | ... dunno - I saw a link to something hosted there, but I can't remember what |
| 09:51.14 | Leeds | the domain stuck in my mind :-) |
| 09:52.10 | idoru | yeah. he's mad for getting domains... |
| 09:53.05 | Leeds | I've only got a couple... |
| 09:55.47 | idoru | <aol> |
| 09:56.31 | Leeds | but vmlinuz.org is pretty cool :-) |
| 09:56.46 | idoru | hehe |
| 10:03.55 | Leeds | murb, you awake? |
| 10:07.31 | Leeds | guess not... |
| 10:17.04 | dank_work | Foo |
| 10:19.14 | Leeds | bar! |
| 10:19.19 | Leeds | busy here today... |
| 10:20.02 | dank_work | Yup |
| 10:22.35 | Leeds | idoru: you actually do Linux stuff? |
| 10:34.11 | murb | is the bind bug being activly exploited/ |
| 10:34.26 | murb | I'm awake. |
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| 11:05.36 | murb | hi formi |
| 11:05.43 | murb | hehe, that worked well. |
| 11:07.32 | Leeds | hi murb |
| 11:07.46 | Leeds | hmm... didn't work that time... |
| 11:12.52 | murb | is an xbox worth 220 euros? |
| 11:13.05 | murb | I'm thinking of doing the xbox linux thing. |
| 11:13.42 | murb | Leeds: :) |
| 11:13.56 | Leeds | it's tempting... |
| 11:14.21 | Leeds | it' |
| 11:14.34 | Leeds | it's also a touch boring... it's just a strange PC... |
| 11:15.14 | murb | yep, and it hasn't really got enough ram |
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| 11:23.16 | CyrilB | hi |
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| 11:26.34 | zachary | evening |
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| 11:48.23 | zachary | brb, wife calling |
| 12:29.23 | highbury | zachary: sure, just confirm you've done so to gllugadmin mailing list, and attach the number for future reference, thanks |
| 12:30.51 | zachary | 1730 or 1800 |
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| 13:22.32 | zachary | who's online? |
| 13:23.49 | eye69 | Me, |
| 13:26.37 | zachary | eye69: How's your day? |
| 13:26.53 | eye69 | Tired. |
| 13:28.13 | zachary | Maybe one day I'll have a career. Until then call me Mr. Mom. |
| 13:28.28 | murb | i'm still at work grrr. |
| 13:28.56 | zachary | ouch! |
| 13:29.33 | eye69 | zachary: Home with the toddler? |
| 13:29.49 | zachary | yes, very cranky lately |
| 13:29.52 | murb | zachary: and rember i'm in CET. |
| 13:30.44 | zachary | murb: from what url |
| 13:32.59 | murb | news.bbc |
| 13:40.29 | highbury | not too bad, at first glance |
| 13:42.30 | murb | I don't like this making it easier to convict people, and giving the CPS another try when they screw it up type stuff. |
| 13:44.52 | eye69 | What's CPS? |
| 13:46.53 | highbury | Central Prosecution Service ? |
| 13:49.18 | highbury | hmmm, yep it effectively gets rid of double jeapordy. I'm in two minds about it. I don't want criminals to get away with things, just cos the Criminal Justice System screws up, equally well, I don't want the wrong people convicted |
| 13:49.47 | eye69 | It's a delicate issue |
| 14:03.19 | zachary | highbury: did you get the pm about the booking? |
| 14:33.41 | highbury | yep |
| 14:33.49 | highbury | thanks |
| 14:34.01 | zachary | anytime =-) |
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| 15:03.06 | dankolb_ | Grr |
| 15:03.09 | dankolb | Evening |
| 15:24.51 | eye69 | Hello dan |
| 15:26.23 | dankolb | Hi eye69 |
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| 15:28.18 | eye69 | I'm actually going to obey my brain and go to bed, right now |
| 15:28.38 | eye69 | How's that for self discipline? |
| 15:28.54 | dankolb | Good luck ;-) |
| 15:28.57 | eye69 | G'night :) |
| 15:29.04 | dankolb | G'night |
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| 16:15.53 | dankolb | Hi |
| 16:15.56 | NisoDaemon | Hi Dan |
| 16:16.07 | NisoDaemon | Nice to see this place is raving again ;) |
| 16:16.12 | dankolb | It always is :) |
| 16:16.24 | NisoDaemon | Like the day after Lonix ;) |
| 16:16.49 | dankolb | <g> I've never been to a Lonix meeting. |
| 16:17.07 | NisoDaemon | They are er different |
| 16:17.15 | NisoDaemon | for different substitute pissup |
| 16:17.38 | dankolb | :-) |
| 16:18.19 | NisoDaemon | Its fun to watch though |
| 16:18.53 | Tarragon | Yes!!! |
| 16:18.59 | NisoDaemon | LOL |
| 16:19.03 | NisoDaemon | BRB |
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| 17:57.45 | Tarragon | Right work finished for today - now to play some games :-) |
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| 20:28.11 | highbury | g'nite |