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04:29.51*** join/#gllug Leeds (~richardc@vmlinuz.fsnet.co.uk)
04:30.48davilionmorning leeds
04:31.15Leedsmorning
04:43.24davilionwent to see 28 days later last night, fantastic film, very brutal though
04:43.51Leedsyeah?  we were only going to go see it because it looked like the best of a bad bunch...
04:45.46davilionits got good reviews
04:45.48davilioni think.
04:45.57davilionbut its worth seeing, but it is horrific.
04:46.14davilionWhat did you think of it?
04:48.07Leedsdidn't see it - it was sold out.  we saw Harry Potter instead :-)
04:55.52davilionahh
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05:29.10JensonAfternoon all.
05:29.17davilionhi Jenson
05:29.17highburyhi
05:29.20davilionhows it going?
05:29.55JensonAlright. Don't mind me being slow I'm eating and typing at the same time.
05:30.03JensonHow are you dav?
05:30.09davilioncool, what you eating?
05:30.21davilionim ok, just up. Was out being 'social' last night,
05:30.23Jensonbacon roll lol flour everywhere
05:30.35daviliongoing to make up for it this morning with lots of mobos' cases, disks and geekiness
05:30.38Leedsnever tried bacon...
05:30.41davilionyum, im just about to have a donut.
05:31.10LeedsI need to go make crumpets...  got chatting while eating my wheatabix
05:31.23JensonI like donuts
05:31.47davilionme too
05:32.00davilioni shouldnt eat so many though, im trying to lose some beerage
05:32.16davilionbut they are so yummy
05:32.27davilionWhat you upto today Jenson?
05:32.29highburyI just threw out my old 486 full tower case
05:33.13Jensondavilion:meeting up with my gran soon. Going to my parents orchestra concert this evening. You?
05:33.56Leedsooh, Chanukah in 2 weeks...  donuts are traditional then...
05:34.04davilionim going to make a fanless machine today hopefully, im making an old 486 laptop into a my router so I can get some sleep at night without disconnecting from the net, and also a fanless disk server, so i dont need to have my workstation on all the time
05:34.34JensonWell that sounds more fun than what I'm doing.
05:35.08davilioni'll probably pop into my gran's at some point need to drop off some boxes, she's moving house in december
05:35.41Leedsdavilion: you know micro-atx?
05:35.45JensonAt least I like my gran. Some people have really annoying grandparents.
05:36.43davilionLeeds: yeah but havent got any
05:36.59LeedsI plan to at some point...
05:37.56JensonRight I'm back now.
05:38.14davilionyeah my gran on my mum's side is really cool.
05:38.33JensonWhat do you guys think of computer fairs. My dad doesn't like them. We went to our first one a couple of weeks ago and he wasn't very impressed.
05:38.34Leedsmine was :-(
05:39.07LeedsJenson: depends on what and where - some are very boring/bad, some are fun/cheap - you're not likely to beat online prices by all that much, but you get the stuff in your hands
05:39.48JensonI think he was surprised that the complete systems being sold were P133s and stuff.
05:40.04davilionyeah
05:40.12Leedsa lot of shit gets dumped there
05:40.30davilionive' never been to a fair, went to that auction in gatwick that was quite good
05:40.33davilionlots of good stuff
05:40.39JensonI wouldn't by a P133 anyway I already have my own P90
05:40.55davilioni have plenty of 486s at the moment
05:41.08JensonWe should be going to another fair next week so it might be better.
05:41.12davilioni do like the idea of fanless machines though, i have a liquid colling kit somewhere
05:41.22davilioni think its probably a case of finding a good one
05:41.23LeedsJenson: where is the fair?
05:41.42Jensondavilion: the P90 I've got we just took the fan out of. Has no coolig system at all.
05:41.48davilioncool.
05:41.50JensonLeeds: Colchester
05:42.10Jensondavilion: coz otherwise we had to put sponges under the case to keep it quiet.
05:42.10davilionmy p120 didnt have a fan, just a wopping heatsink, which it didnt really need
05:42.22LeedsJenson: only thinking that a fair in the centre of a big city would probably be better than a local one...
05:42.33davilionim hoping i wont even need a power supply fan.
05:42.54JensonYeah well Colchester is bigger than Thetford where we went before.
05:43.08JensonThis P700 is currently running at 24 degrees
05:43.44davilionnice
05:43.51davilioni dont have any decent spec machines turned on these days.
05:44.18JensonWe should be getting a new one within the next few months which means I get this one to put Linux on.
05:44.59davilionI have a massive dell poweredge server which is just too noisy i want to put it somewhere online but i cant afford the rackspace, since its about 8u
05:45.23davilionand i have a dual athlon 1800 but its too noisy as well. i jus tuse it from time to time
05:45.40davilionnormally i just have my laptop, router, and a p3 500
05:46.13JensonWe have a laptop. Well actually it is my mothers belonging to her work but it's just on the floor behind me she doesn't use it.
05:46.40davilionheh im trying to get my mum a laptop for xmas, i was going to give her mine, but i've started doing more freelance work so i need it for testing unfrotunatly
05:47.23davilionshe doesnt need anything fancy just a floppy drive, and enough cycles to run win98/office
05:47.46Leedsmy dad bought my mum a viao for her birthday last year... she had an operation and couldn't walk properly for a few months, so it let her sit in a comfy chair and use it
05:48.42JensonI think I'm gonna kill my computer it seems to have something against pdf documents today.
05:49.36JensonI have to go. I've got to go to meet my grany in 10 mins.
05:49.46JensonI may well be here later this evening but I'm not sure.
05:49.53JensonIf not then see you guys tomorrow.
05:49.54Leedsenjoy the concert :-)
05:50.02Jensonthanks, Leeds.
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07:04.40Leedshi...
07:06.35markhi again :)
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09:12.07formihiya
09:12.59zachary_knoppixhi formi
09:14.22formiare you still having trouble with your machine?
09:14.44zachary_knoppixno, not anymore. I reinstalled this morning
09:16.30formiaha
09:17.00formii just supposed because of you nick end
09:18.06zachary_knoppixno, using my wife's laptop.
09:18.19formialright
09:18.30formii can't believe this
09:18.51zachary_knoppixbrb booting
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09:43.59CyrilBhi
09:44.22formii have been trying for half an hour to connect to various irc serves in the czech republic
09:44.33formiwith no luck whatsoever
09:44.42formihi CyrilB
09:55.35CyrilBI'll be in London on Monday
09:55.43CyrilBonly for one day
09:56.24formibusiness or pleasure?
09:58.59CyrilBjob interview
09:59.11CyrilB+s
10:00.13forminice
10:03.32CyrilBHow far "SW14 8JN" is from London ?
10:03.38CyrilBfrom the city center I mean
10:03.52formi1 sec
10:05.53formihttp://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=520567&y=175919&z=0&sv=SW14+8JN&st=2&tl=Postcode+SW14+8JN&pc=SW14+8JN&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
10:34.31CyrilBshops are usually open on Monday in London?
10:35.24formiusually
10:48.51eye69Hello CyrilB
10:51.49CyrilBhi eye69
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13:36.07CyrilBre
13:36.31eye69re re
13:41.11Leedsre re re
13:44.04Leeds"We're the MTV generation - we feel neither highs nor lows."  "What's it like?" "Eh..."
13:51.15skugghm. so i'm reading mail with imap. not _quite_ happy with how mutt handles it, but that may be lack of configuration on my part.
13:56.49davilionevening
13:59.31eye69skugg: What don't you like with it?
14:05.22skugghard to explain :)
14:05.49skugga minor detail, i'm sure.
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15:21.16skugghaha!
15:21.22Leedshe-he
15:21.22skuggi don't need to use imap directly anyway
15:21.43skuggusing isync to sync it to my local box instead :)
15:21.53skugglooks good so far
15:22.04skuggjust have to integrate it properly with mutt now..
15:22.11skuggit's mostly there, but not quite
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15:24.14skuggor, at least i think i've managed to set up isync correctly...
15:27.28eye69Sadly mutt is very slow with imap
15:28.33skuggeye69, not a problem. I don't use imap anymore with mutt ;)
15:28.50eye69But I do :)
15:29.12skuggi use isync to sync the mail to my local machine, read it there with mutt, then sync back to the server with isync.
15:29.34skuggthis can take place from multiple places simultaneously, without loosing mail
15:29.55skuggi can also log into the remote server and read mail locally there, without it screwing up things
15:30.13skugg(isync reads the mail via imap)
15:30.27skuggi've spent a little time setting it up today, and it works fine.
15:31.03skuggjust need to work out how to integrate isync/mutt a bit better, and to make isync automagically set up an ssh tunnel...
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15:34.33zachs_wifegood evening everyone
15:35.02cupisgood evening
15:35.09eye69Good evening, zachs companion in life
15:35.30eye69How are you doing?
15:35.32zachs_wife:-)
15:35.46zachs_wifeGood. How are you doing eye69?
15:36.10eye69I guess I'm quite alive
15:36.20eye69...that's always a start :)
15:36.24zachs_wifehaving a good weekend?
15:37.57zacharyeye69: Good point. I always thought when I check the obituaries section and find my name, it is going to be a bad day. :-)
15:38.11eye69zachary: Heh
15:38.50eye69zachary: Yeah, kind of.
15:39.07eye69I need to clean up my flat, but that wiull be quick, once I get around to actually dfoing it
15:39.25zachs_wifeI cleaned today
15:40.04zachs_wifeit's the motivation part of cleaning that i have a problem with
15:41.51skuggi've problem with the actual cleaning bit
15:42.13zachs_wifepoor skugg
15:42.15zachs_wife:)
15:42.33skuggvicious circle -- i'm allergic to dustmites, so should clean often, but the actual _cleaning_ is what makes me worse than anything else
15:42.55zachs_wifesounds like you need a mask or something
15:42.59eye69I did get around to renewing my lease yesterday though...guess that was a good thing (tm), considering that it expires on monday
15:43.18eye69skugg: You can borrow a mask from Michael Jackson
15:43.19zachs_wifeI would say thats a very good thing
15:43.23skuggzachs_wife, yep, and haven't got around to get that yet... that's where the motivation comes in :P
15:43.33zachs_wifeI hear you
15:43.39skuggeye69, not anymore, we're not on first names anymore
15:43.50zachs_wifelol
15:45.04zachs_wifei'm very excited. we're going on holiday on monday
15:47.18Leedszachs_wife: where?
15:47.36zachs_wifeWe flying back to Idaho to see zachs family
15:48.04zachs_wifeyep
15:49.27zachs_wifezach may go through computer withdrawal though
15:49.54Leedslaptop? palmtop?
15:49.59Leedscybercafe? :-)
15:50.39zachs_wifehis folks have a computer but is has MS on it.  he's talking about loading linux on a partition and then deleting it when we leave
15:50.54cupiszachs_wife: take a knoppix CD.
15:51.04Leedscupis: beat me to it :-)
15:51.05zachs_wifei think he's going to take one
15:51.18cupisLeeds: :)
15:51.22zacharyKnoppix is already packed. :-)
15:51.27zachs_wifehi sweetie
15:51.29eye69zachary: Heh
15:59.20zachs_wifedoes anyone have a palm pilot or sony clie?
15:59.45eye69I have a handspring visor
16:00.01zachs_wifewhat software do you use to sync with?
16:00.20eye69gpilot, or pilot-xfer if I just want to do a backup
16:00.45zachs_wifeheh.  okay
16:01.57davilionevening all
16:03.04zachs_wifegood evening davilion
16:04.10zachs_wifebye room. nice chatting with you all.  have a good rest of the weekend
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16:11.21irvined_irvined_=davilion
16:11.28irvined_pinkmarshmallows just nicked my laptop
16:11.46zacharydankolb: good evening.
16:11.56dankolbEvening
16:12.22irvined_my attempts at building geeky stuff have been put to a smokey end today
16:12.54irvined_my only working quiet power supply let out its magic smoke
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16:16.01Leedsboom!
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16:16.46dankolbEvening
16:17.06irvined_hi Leeds, hows it going?
16:17.31Leedsirvined_: fine...
16:27.08dankolbHi Leeds
16:27.33Leedsevening, dankolb
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16:28.00JensonHey all.
16:28.09zacharyhi Jenson
16:28.15JensonHey zach
16:29.13dankolbHey Jenson
16:29.31JensonOh there you are. Hi ya
16:30.14dankolbIt's a Saturday night. I don't have anything else to do, except sit online. Well, I did get back from the pub half an hour ago
16:30.28JensonYeah i just git back from the pub.
16:30.52JensonBeen drinking Red Bull which is recommended for people suffereing from anxiety so I'm freaked now lol
16:30.58Jenson^isn't
16:31.06dankolbJust Red Bull?
16:31.34JensonMy mate says that Bill Gates puts the tortured souls from hell into programs
16:31.48JensonYeah dan, I'm not meant to drink alcohol with the tablets I'm on.
16:32.08dankolbAh.
16:32.55LeedsJenson: no concert?
16:33.00JensonI bought my dad some cashew nuts too coz he kept shouting 'cashews' loudly across the 4 foot between him and my mother but she was ignoring him.
16:33.15JensonLeeds: Yeah this was after when some of the orchestra went to the pub.
16:33.34Leedsyou're mates with the orchestra?  you're *in* it?
16:34.04JensonI was in it. My parents are n it.
16:34.17Leedsah, musical people...
16:34.17dankolbWhat instrument?
16:34.27zacharyGotta go, wife is giving me the pouting face.
16:34.39zacharyhave a good evening/night, bye
16:34.40JensonBye zach
16:34.40dankolbBye zachary
16:34.55Jensondankolb: trumpet/cornet
16:35.01dankolbCool
16:35.53JensonA male clarinetist. The only one of those I know is a fucking idiot. Mind you he plays trumpet aswell so I can't say much lol
16:36.04dankolbHey. I'm not a fucking idiot.
16:36.26JensonI didn't say you were lol
16:36.30dankolb:)
16:36.46JensonI could say you were, but you might pin me down or something.
16:36.54dankolbOoooh :-P
16:37.03dankolbYou might enjoy that.
16:37.29JensonPossinbly...
16:38.01dankolb:)
16:38.15Leedsand sings, very badly... :-(
16:38.45JensonI have played bass guitar badly but I haven't played it lately.
16:44.31dankolbHmm.
16:45.16dankolbShe seems to have pung out
16:47.42dankolbShe seems to have pung out
16:47.46dankolbD'oh.
16:47.59dankolbibot lart dankolb
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16:50.31JensonBloody BT
16:50.38dankolbwb
16:50.42dankolb:)
16:51.45Leedsdial-up sucks...
16:52.13JensonLeeds: I think it knew I'd just popped out to the loo so it thought it would screw up while I wasn't there.
16:52.31JensonBut at least I managed to unghost ,myself without having to look up the command first.
16:52.38dankolbYes. You're not allowed to go while on IRC :)
16:52.51JensonSo it seems.
16:53.07Leedswhat do you think an iPAQ with WLAN is for???
16:54.22dankolbShowing off?
16:54.36JensonWacking an ex round the head with?
16:54.49dankolbOnly if the iPaq is running WinCE
16:55.37Leedsmmm... cookies...
16:55.40dankolbMmm....cookies.
16:55.43dankolb:-)
16:55.48Leeds:-)
16:55.55JensonI'm tired and I'm cold, but at least I'm not hungry now.
16:56.36LeedsI generally find that bed solves both cold and tired...
16:57.13JensonYeah Leeds. When I get a decent PC with internet in my room it might help.
16:57.31Leedsexcept that, according to Bruce Dickinson, "food and sleep are the enemy"...
16:57.45dankolbNooo. Sleep is good
16:58.03skuggjenson, i don't think it helps just _being_ in bed. i think leeds' statement warrants actually sleeping too  :P
16:58.04Leedsit's just that Bruce was saying that on the radio as I was writing it :-)
16:58.28Leedsskugg: being awake in bed is good for cold, but not so much for tired...
16:58.45LeedsJenson: I refer you to my earlier comment about an iPAQ with a wireless LAN :-)
16:58.53skuggLeeds, true. but lots of sleep is good  for cold too.
16:58.53Jensonskugg: Ah well. I'm sure I can sleep and type at the same time.
16:59.16skuggJenson, heh. teach me that trick, will  ya? i could sure need it at times...
16:59.46JensonLeeds: I don't understand normal networks yet. and all I understand about wireless is you can connect to other people's networks if they aren;t protected.
16:59.59Leedsskugg: thought you were a student...  don't you already know how?
17:00.02dankolbJenson: Yup
17:00.16Jensonskugg: Might be embarrassing to not know what your typing.
17:00.34JensonLeeds: Currently studying Biology, History and Geography
17:01.22Leedshmm, two 'social sciences' and one 'wimpy science' :-)
17:01.29skuggLeeds, no, unfortunately.
17:01.56skuggJenson, ah, but I read much faster than I can write. I can give it a read-through in the morning before hand-in ;P
17:02.09JensonI could take a degree in how to talk shit on the internet
17:02.23dankolb:)
17:02.24skuggJenson, we'd all ace such a degree
17:02.48Jensonskugg: My problem is the spell check picks up typos, but not when I write a completely different word.
17:03.07JensonAnd I never understand how I typo with letters that are on opposite sides of the keyboard.
17:05.01Leedsthat's a thinko, not a typo
17:05.36davilionhi jenson
17:05.39JensonLike once I wrote help instead of hope and when I read it through I was like WTF?
17:05.51JensonHeya davilion mate how are you?
17:06.49davilionJenson: im good thanks just packing up to go home
17:06.49Leedsdavilion: ircspeak?
17:06.49davilionand playing with ircspeak, a text to voice thingy
17:06.49davilionit does a wicked hal impressoni
17:06.56Leedsoh, cool :-)
17:07.11Leedswhich speech synthesis engine does it use?  festival?
17:07.59davilionyeah
17:08.07davilionive been singing to it
17:08.17davilionthe 4 of us a in hysterics
17:08.22Leedssinging to it???
17:08.29davilionin the junkle, the mighty jungle...
17:08.33davilionand oooga chaka
17:08.40skuggisync integrated with mutt: [X]
17:08.46Leedssinging to your IRC client?
17:08.48davilionits quite good at bohemian rhapsody
17:08.51davilionyeah, well i type, it sings
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17:09.05Leedsoh, right
17:09.07skuggnow only lack getting isync to talk imaps instead of plain imap....
17:09.10Jensonlol my text reader is really funny
17:09.27JensonI have a bloody pschiatrist program on here too he's really dumb.
17:09.37LeedsJenson: do you know alice?
17:09.46davilionJenson: does it diagnose you with anything interesting?
17:10.00Jensondavilion: Not really it's just weird.
17:10.06JensonLeeds: no
17:10.58davilionheh
17:11.29davilionits not bad a poetry either
17:11.31JensonBloody talking parrot too
17:11.35daviliondoes a cracking rabbie burns
17:11.47Leedsdavilion: rabbi or robbie?
17:12.33davilionthe latter
17:12.43davilionlol the life works of rabbi burns :)
17:13.57Leedsdavilion: the Edinburgh J-Soc annual dinner is the Rabbi Burns Night dinner... kosher haggis and all
17:14.11davilioncool
17:14.20davilionright as they say in russia 'I moscow now'
17:14.32skuggheh ;)
17:14.49davilioni need to go somewhere with wireless access
17:14.52davilionback in 20 mins
17:14.56Jensonheh
17:15.05Leedshmm... alice seems to have changed a bit...
17:15.14LeedsI should try to get an alicebot up and running in here :-)
17:15.15JensonMy text reader is crap lol
17:15.22JensonMind you it's at least 2 years old
17:16.20davilionheh right back in a bit, just need to drag bagpuss away from his terminal and lock him in the car whilst we go home
17:16.44JensonWhere are you at the moment than davilion?
17:19.36Leedsnot at the keyboard, apparently :-)
17:19.56JensonYeah he's gone it seems.
17:20.09JensonWhere is sash lately?
17:20.36dankolbHiding.
17:20.40Leedsooh! the author/owner/creator of Alice is speaking in London in a few weeks...
17:21.00skuggLeeds, the chatbot?
17:21.07Leedsskugg: yes
17:21.30skugghm.
17:21.49Leedsoh... it's a whole-day "how to run your own bot using my AI language" thing, rather than a more general talk...
17:21.54davilionJenson: glasgow, partick at the moment, heading out to milngavie in a few seconds
17:22.06JensonI see.
17:22.52davilionand now im in the car so im going to stop typing and drive now
17:22.54davilionbbiab
17:23.09Leedsso, the question is: do I have something to eat before bed?
17:23.22dankolbCheese
17:23.32JensonCookies
17:23.42Leedsgot neither :-(
17:23.42dankolbcookies with cheese
17:23.48Leedscould go shopping...
17:25.22Leedshttp://www.savejackie.com - very strange site...
17:25.38Leedspity she's a spammer, really...
17:26.18JensonThat is weird.
17:26.31Leedshmmm... or I could go buy bagels!
17:26.56dankolbYes. Bagels.
17:27.13Leedsbagels?
17:27.19Leedsanyone want anything in particular?
17:27.52dankolbYes.
17:28.02dankolbYou buying bagels for everyone?
17:29.35Leedsif you want... but they're coming via ctcp (except gaim doesn't do ctcp) or you collect :-)
17:29.48LeedsI've sent bagels by ctcp before...
17:30.01dankolbCan I collect at next Gllug?
17:30.34Leedsthey'll be a little rock solid, but sure...
17:31.19LeedsI am actually serious about going to buy bagels in a few minutes... it's a tradition...
17:31.30dankolbThe 'in a few minutes'?
17:31.34dankolbOr the buying bagels?
17:32.00Leedsboth... buying bagels late on Saturday night
17:32.16dankolb:-)
17:32.43Leedsbecause the kosher bakeries can't open until Saturday evening, so they're open when pubs close, so people go buy bagels on the way home
17:33.31dankolbAh. So you go buy bagels rather than kebabs
17:33.59Leedswell, that too...  but we call it shwarma...
17:34.43Leedsthere are lots of different types of kebab - shwarma is pretty much the same as donna kebab
17:34.55Leedsor however you spell it :-)
17:34.55dankolbAh okay.
17:35.02dankolbDonner.
17:35.17dankolbWell....depends which 'bab van you go to, of course :)
17:35.34Leedslike the reindeer?
17:35.52dankolbBlitzen van
17:44.23Leedsright... bagels
17:44.34Jensonright then off you go leeds
17:44.44dankolbBye Leeds.
17:45.13Leedsback in 10-15 mins
17:45.18JensonOK
17:45.22JensonI'll probably be gone then
17:45.39Leedsg'night then... you'll not get your bagel
17:45.41dankolbGoing to bed already?
17:45.47dankolbCan I have her bagel?
17:46.04Jensonlol all you want is my bagel??? I'm offended <g>
17:46.12Leedsoo-er...
17:46.15dankolbOoooh :)
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17:46.25dankolbI wouldn't say anything here that ibot would log
17:46.29Jensonwb dav
17:46.31LeedsJenson: come down to London and I'll give you more than a bagel... :-P
17:46.37Jensonlol
17:46.41Jenson2 bagels?
17:46.48Leedsa Jerusalem bagel!
17:46.53daviliontada
17:46.53davilion<PROTECTED>
17:47.02Leedshuge toasted ones...
17:47.07davilionshame glasgownet doesnt quite have seamless network integration from sites :)
17:47.34dankolbAh well
17:48.48davilioninteresting ride home thouhgh
17:48.56Jensonyeah?
17:49.46davilionyeah my attempts to broadside the scenic didnt work as well as i had planned
17:49.55davilioni need to correct the understeer problem
17:50.35JensonI see.
17:52.26davilionit was a lot more fun with half a tonne of engine's gearboxes, steel, servers, and other dead weight in the back.
17:52.46davilionunfortunatly the fuel economy was suffering so i unloaded all the junk
17:52.57JensonWell yeah likely it would.
17:53.29davilionnice pendulum effect i found though,
17:53.48davilionJenson: Do you drive?
17:54.02JensonNo davilion I haven't got around to learning.
17:54.06davilionahh,
17:54.27davilionone of my hobbies. well, cars, not so much driving anymore.
17:55.31davilionHow was your day Jenson?
17:55.53JensonAlright. I'm sleepy now but that isn't suprising.
17:57.04davilionheh
17:57.17davilionim fairly tired but im a on a winner with usb support and my curses programming
17:57.18JensonHow about you? How was your PC building?
17:57.34JensonDamn, I'm thinking too slowly lol
17:57.38davilioni found out why they call it curses
17:57.50dankolb:)
17:58.11davilionit was erm, eventfull, i got a working router for a while, well the hardware worked until i wanted to boot off floppy to install the os, and fater much footering around with cables and magic sticks, the power supply let out the magic smoke
17:58.39davilionbbiab going to reboot into new kernel
18:02.49dankolbwb
18:02.59Jensonwb Leeds
18:03.02Leedshi :-)
18:03.06dankolbDid you get me a bagel?
18:03.14Leedsyup... plain or sesame?
18:03.23dankolbSesame, please.
18:03.41dankolbThanks :)
18:05.00Leedsnice and fresh, eh?
18:05.05dankolbYup. :)
18:05.08dankolbIs it warm?
18:06.20Leedsslightly... if it's *really* fresh/warm, they put it in a paper bag, because it needs to breathe... got plastic this evening...
18:07.37Leedsit's pot luck if you get there soon after a batch has come from the oven...
18:07.50Leedsyou shouldn't microwave a bagel - particularly not a fresh one
18:07.52dankolbYou could wait...
18:08.37Leedstrue..  and I have, in the past
18:08.49JensonBloody hell look at the time I better be going
18:08.57dankolbThe morning is still young
18:09.08JensonYeah but I'm tired.
18:09.46Leedskids...
18:09.47Leeds:-)
18:10.49Jensonkids lol I don't see any
18:10.50Leedsteenagers...
18:10.50dankolbLeeds: Yeah. With their sleep requirements
18:10.53JensonWell I could stay up all night but I'll then be dead all tomorrow.
18:10.53Leedsbecause we all know that gown-ups find it easier to pull an all-nighter than kids...
18:10.54Leedsit's Sunday - it';
18:11.00Leedsit's *made* to be dead...
18:11.10JensonI can pull an all nighter
18:11.16Jensonlast one was 36hrs
18:12.22LeedsI've not done a true all-nighter for quite a while... but I've done 5 days with an average of about 3.5 hours sleep per night...
18:12.38JensonLeeds: That isn't good for you
18:13.03LeedsI know - took me a while to recover... bloody charity work!
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18:13.32Jensonwb dav
18:14.34Leedsnew kernel good?
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18:15.04Jensonhey bagpuss
18:15.22bagpuss_thecathey Jenson
18:15.39JensonAnyway I was leaving
18:15.43JensonNight guys
18:15.46bagpuss_thecatcya later
18:15.52Jensonbye cat
18:16.18davilionnight Jenson
18:16.23davilionyeah usb works
18:16.24Jensonnight davilion
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18:16.43Jensonwb dan
18:16.54JensonI'll catch you tomorrow mate.
18:17.09dankolbThanks
18:17.13dankolbHey. See you tomorrow
18:17.18JensonBye
18:17.24Leedsg'night
18:17.25dankolbBye
18:17.39JensonNight Leeds
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18:17.44davilionjust need to set it up so that when i plug in my hub it 'docks' and starts my webcam and stuff
18:17.52bagpuss_thecats/visis/visit/
18:18.03davilionwell it is greater london :)
18:18.09bagpuss_thecatppphhhttt
18:18.42davilionoi! if any of that gets in my specially swiped sun approved keyboard your for it moggy
18:19.00davilionthis is the height of lazyness, your sitting 4ft behind me yet im stilltyping to you
18:20.42skuggheh.
18:21.36dankolb:)
18:21.52dankolb:)
18:22.05davilionskugg: now thats the life
18:22.06skuggi usually got a smack across the head then :)
18:22.18davilionheh
18:22.36skuggah, the pleasant trips down memory lane...
18:22.37skugg:)
18:24.08dankolb:)
18:25.00skuggheh, a guy on a different channel i'm on claiming he had "a machine so underspec'd it was swapping when idle" :)
18:25.15skuggnice :)
18:25.35dankolbExcellent :)
18:25.53dankolbLoad average was about 5
18:26.13skugghehe
18:26.57dankolbMay I say, on the record, that running encrypted swap on a low-spec machine is *not* a good idea
18:27.17skuggi kinda got that :)
18:27.37dankolbAlthough I would try it again on a higher-spec machine
18:27.40skuggwhy did you run encrypted swap anyway? paranoid? got sometihng to hide? just testing?
18:27.48dankolbJust testing, in my case.
18:27.53skuggi see
18:28.05dankolbBut if you had *really* sensitive data, I'd say it would be a good idea
18:28.40skuggit all depends off course, but i don't have anything to hide
18:29.13dankolbCool. Can I have a copy of your home directory, then?
18:29.42skuggyep, if you want to. but only if *you* provide the bandwidth :P
18:30.05dankolbSure. I'll bring my laptop and a network cable along...
18:30.21skuggnot a problem. i could use some company.
18:30.30skuggi've got nothing to hide in there anyway.
18:30.43dankolb:) Fair enough
18:31.32dankolbHmm. I wonder if I'm going to be around London next weekend. We may be doing some stuff at Globix (only 3 weeks late)
18:31.32skugga few mildly embarrasing emails maybe, and coursework for which the hand-in date has not run out yet (so i can be done for duplication of work if somebody else hand in mine) but that's  it.
18:31.41dankolb:-)
18:31.45skuggheh
18:31.49dankolbFair enough.
18:32.34skuggaw, wait... there's my .fetchmailrc file with mail passwords :P you don't get that one.
18:32.43dankolbAha. So you do have something to hide :)
18:32.57skuggi can actually just delete it.
18:33.06skuggi don't have fetchmail  installed anymore...
18:33.09dankolbStill something to hide, though.
18:33.11skuggi get my email elsewhere now
18:33.23dankolbIf you're deleting it *after* you've said you've got nothing to hide
18:33.28skuggyeah, but nothing worth encrypting swap for ;P
18:33.53dankolbEvidently.
18:34.01dankolbBut 33v1l h4xx0r5 might
18:34.12skuggyeah, i guess
18:34.13dankolbAnyway, I think I should be asleep a long time ago
18:34.15dankolbGood night
18:34.18Leedsg'night
18:34.21skugggood night
18:34.38Leedspeople are quoting the Matrix over on #handhelds.org - I think a couple of people are watching the DVD in sync :-)
18:34.54davilionheh
18:34.55skugg:)
18:35.58skuggi love that cartoon
18:36.14skugg(and many others, but the drawings are just _so_ good in this one)
18:36.19Leedsnever got into it...
18:37.32skuggi've got dailystrips gathering my fav strips every day -- quite a few
18:37.56LeedsI have sitescooper grabbing userfriendly, Dilbert and Calvin & Hobbes
18:38.03skuggused to spend so long checking "my" strips every day before i knew about dailystrips ;)
18:38.27LeedsI read my scoop on the loo at work :-)
18:39.07skugg:P that's a bit more information than i needed
18:54.36Leedssounds like a plan...
19:02.52Leedsyou didn't know about it?
19:13.36skugghighbury, it's great, isn't it ;)
19:18.50skuggnight now
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