| 00:01.25 | Jenson | I was going to bed at 10:30 |
| 00:01.36 | dankolb | Yes. You were. |
| 00:01.46 | dankolb | And then spending lots of money on cone phalls |
| 00:01.51 | Jenson | I don't need reminding |
| 00:02.06 | dankolb | Leeds: Change the topic to remind Jenson to go to bed ;-) |
| 00:02.10 | Jenson | phalls reads too much like phallus lol |
| 00:02.17 | Leeds | not now... |
| 00:02.17 | dankolb | Only if you have sex on your mind |
| 00:02.20 | Leeds | Jenson: yes, I noticed that |
| 00:02.24 | Leeds | dankolb: :-P |
| 00:02.29 | Jenson | ibot lart dankolb |
| 00:02.37 | Jenson | See Leeds noticed too. |
| 00:02.48 | Jenson | Chops what part of dankolb in half? |
| 00:03.00 | Leeds | dankolb: been dreaming of being on a train in a tunnel with your mum again? |
| 00:03.24 | dankolb | That's Oedipus |
| 00:03.37 | dankolb | But there's other people I could dream of being in a train tunnel... |
| 00:04.02 | Tarragon | Virgin Trains? |
| 00:04.11 | Jenson | Yeah.....Tony Blair and Andy Gilchrist and Dan in a train in a tunnel lol |
| 00:04.19 | dankolb | *sigh* |
| 00:04.21 | Jenson | Hey Tarragon |
| 00:04.29 | dankolb | I guess it'd be a worthwhile sacrifice to make for the good of the country |
| 00:04.31 | Tarragon | Hey |
| 00:04.48 | Jenson | What dankolb their lives or yours? |
| 00:05.07 | dankolb | All |
| 00:05.32 | Leeds | morning, Tarragon |
| 00:05.58 | dankolb | 10.30 |
| 00:06.01 | Leeds | 1:30? |
| 00:06.03 | dankolb | Almost 2 hours ago |
| 00:06.19 | Jenson | I'll go at 12:30 |
| 00:06.28 | dankolb | Yeh right. |
| 00:06.31 | Jenson | and no-one <looks around the room> is to distract me |
| 00:06.36 | dankolb | I'll believe it when I see it. |
| 00:06.44 | dankolb | And I probably won't see it tonight. |
| 00:06.53 | Jenson | I'll believe when I see it..... |
| 00:06.55 | dankolb | ibot insult getting less than 8 hours of sleep |
| 00:07.00 | Jenson | and are you thinking what I'm thinking? |
| 00:07.13 | dankolb | Depends what you're thinking |
| 00:07.24 | Jenson | I don't think ibot wants to know.... |
| 00:07.42 | dankolb | Well, it's after midnight, and I'll have to get up before 8 |
| 00:07.59 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:08.03 | Jenson | I have to get out of bed at 7:15 |
| 00:08.16 | dankolb | Urgh. Early. |
| 00:08.20 | Jenson | Yeah |
| 00:08.42 | Leeds | I have to get out of bed before 7 :-( |
| 00:09.01 | Jenson | awwww Leeds......almost worth staying awake til then |
| 00:09.03 | Leeds | or rather... I have to leave the house before 8:30, and I'm used to taking my time in the morning... |
| 00:09.44 | Jenson | OMG i'd get out of bed at 7:45 for that Leeds |
| 00:09.51 | Leeds | well, I have a 90-minute or so drive, and I have to be there for 10, because that's when the course starts... |
| 00:10.06 | dankolb | Meh. 8.15 would do if you hurry (and have someone else make breakfast) |
| 00:10.44 | Jenson | dankolb: you're just a lazy fucker....lol |
| 00:10.55 | dankolb | And what would you know about that? |
| 00:11.13 | Jenson | Absoulutly nothing yet lol |
| 00:11.20 | Leeds | I need 20+ mins to shower and get dressed... 30 mins+ for breakfast, 15 mins+ for various sanitary stuff |
| 00:11.21 | dankolb | Heh |
| 00:11.30 | Leeds | Jenson: are you lazy? |
| 00:11.41 | Jenson | Leeds........overkill on wetlook gel or sometihng |
| 00:11.50 | Jenson | Yeah to lazy to get off my ass and go to bed lol |
| 00:12.00 | Jenson | lol dankolb, good good. |
| 00:12.10 | Leeds | so Jenson is lazy, and dankolb is a lazy fucker... |
| 00:12.12 | dankolb | You brought us down to this level ;-) |
| 00:12.20 | dankolb | Leeds: Only when I'm tired. |
| 00:12.28 | Jenson | For once the disgusting conversation isn't my fault. |
| 00:12.58 | dankolb | Yes it is. |
| 00:12.58 | Leeds | oh, it's often my fault |
| 00:13.00 | Tarragon | Depends whether you have the bathroom to yourself or have to share with others. Otherwise 30mins up and out. |
| 00:14.41 | Leeds | there's a lot of me to wash... |
| 00:14.48 | Jenson | Well surely Tarragon you can find a tim,e to use the bathroom when others are asleep. |
| 00:14.59 | Leeds | speaking of which, I just acted out part of an advert... |
| 00:15.17 | dankolb | YMCA? |
| 00:15.26 | Leeds | jeans ad... |
| 00:15.28 | dankolb | Erk. |
| 00:15.32 | Tarragon | For me yes. My only problem is the noise of an electric shaver. |
| 00:15.35 | Leeds | yeah :-) |
| 00:16.08 | Leeds | dankolb: it's been done... in public... in front of hundreds of Israeli schoolkids... with even worse, made-up, lyrics |
| 00:16.13 | Jenson | Tarragon: Just as long as it isn't a vibrator.... |
| 00:16.24 | dankolb | You can't shave with a vibrator |
| 00:16.28 | dankolb | Leeds: :-) |
| 00:16.35 | Jenson | lol dankolb can't say I've tried |
| 00:16.41 | Leeds | dankolb: sure you can - that's what sandpaper is for... |
| 00:16.47 | dankolb | Well, it's quite obvious. There's no sharp blades |
| 00:17.03 | dankolb | Leeds: If you cover a vibrator with sandpaper, it'll most likely hurt |
| 00:17.14 | dankolb | Especially if it's used for its intended purpose |
| 00:17.30 | Leeds | you could shave with it though... if you don't value your facial skin |
| 00:18.10 | dankolb | It'd probably be cheaper to buy an electric shaver, though |
| 00:18.10 | Jenson | even though I think i started it |
| 00:18.20 | Leeds | what, you don't fancy shaving with a sandpapered vibrator? |
| 00:18.28 | dankolb | Nope :) |
| 00:18.54 | Tarragon | OK it is just a basic Braun shaver. It has a beard trimmer and that is it. |
| 00:19.31 | Leeds | Tarragon: you wouldn't want to use that as a vibrator... |
| 00:19.43 | dankolb | What? A beard trimmer? |
| 00:20.19 | Jenson | WTF lol |
| 00:20.31 | Jenson | Guys I think we're a little off-topic and ibot is logging. |
| 00:20.34 | dankolb | Would you use a beard-trimmer as a vibrator, Jenson? |
| 00:20.48 | Jenson | No dankolb can't say I would. |
| 00:20.52 | dankolb | :-) |
| 00:21.06 | Tarragon | One girly and one bot and look how this channel has fallen ;-) |
| 00:21.18 | Jenson | It's mostyl my fault lol |
| 00:21.21 | Jenson | and Leeds and Dan |
| 00:21.24 | dankolb | Please, sir, she started it |
| 00:21.33 | dankolb | Oi. I don't say much here |
| 00:21.50 | Jenson | Please sir, Please Mr Gates, Dan is using Mac. |
| 00:22.00 | dankolb | Muahaha |
| 00:22.06 | Leeds | ibot leave #gllug |
| 00:22.07 | | i don't know, Leeds |
| 00:22.15 | Leeds | damn! dumb new bot |
| 00:22.19 | Jenson | ah |
| 00:22.33 | dankolb | The eternal bot? |
| 00:22.35 | dankolb | Can't leave... |
| 00:22.45 | Jenson | He did bugger off for a few days |
| 00:22.59 | dankolb | Yes, but he was being reborn |
| 00:23.00 | Tarragon | Fsck ! I need to go do some work on the Mac. You have just reminded me. |
| 00:23.07 | dankolb | :-) |
| 00:23.14 | dankolb | Have fun - see you tomorrow probably |
| 00:23.24 | Jenson | Go on then Tarragon......have fun. |
| 00:23.28 | Leeds | ibot - the next generation |
| 00:23.29 | | i haven't a clue, Leeds |
| 00:23.36 | dankolb | ibot Leeds |
| 00:23.36 | | extra, extra, read all about it, leeds is a bloke called Richard in the UK or spending too much time playing with expensive electronic toys or a genius or whatever you want him to be |
| 00:23.37 | Leeds | ibot we know that |
| 00:23.38 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Leeds |
| 00:23.54 | dankolb | ibot Tarragon |
| 00:23.55 | | [tarragon] a tall Northern bloke |
| 00:23.55 | Leeds | ibot dankolb |
| 00:23.55 | | it has been said that dankolb is not a bot |
| 00:24.00 | dankolb | ibot Jenson |
| 00:24.00 | | bugger all, i dunno, dankolb |
| 00:24.02 | Leeds | ibot jenson |
| 00:24.02 | | Leeds: I give up, what is it? |
| 00:24.06 | Jenson | lmao |
| 00:24.09 | Jenson | he doesn't like me |
| 00:24.09 | Leeds | heh |
| 00:24.14 | Leeds | ibot jenson++ |
| 00:24.20 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:24.21 | Jenson | Someone needs to teach him about me. |
| 00:24.41 | dankolb | ibot Jenson is a geek girl |
| 00:24.41 | | okay, dankolb |
| 00:24.50 | dankolb | For want of anything better currently |
| 00:25.32 | dankolb | ibot jenson |
| 00:25.33 | | methinks jenson is a geek girl |
| 00:25.33 | Leeds | ibot jenson is also not in London |
| 00:25.34 | | okay, Leeds |
| 00:25.48 | dankolb | ibot jenson |
| 00:25.49 | | somebody said jenson was a geek girl, or not in London |
| 00:25.49 | Leeds | ibot if we all talk at you at once, will you die? |
| 00:25.49 | | Leeds: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 00:26.10 | dankolb | ibot Some things in life are bad |
| 00:26.11 | | they can really make you mad |
| 00:26.15 | dankolb | Yes |
| 00:26.19 | dankolb | It's kept the database |
| 00:26.22 | Leeds | ibot laugh |
| 00:26.23 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Leeds |
| 00:26.29 | Leeds | ibot smile |
| 00:26.30 | | :-) |
| 00:26.32 | Jenson | ibot jenson is a little crazy |
| 00:26.32 | | ...but jenson is already something else... |
| 00:26.41 | Leeds | heh |
| 00:26.52 | dankolb | ibot jenson is also a little crazy |
| 00:26.52 | | dankolb: okay |
| 00:27.00 | Jenson | ah I get it |
| 00:27.01 | Leeds | ibot Jenson |
| 00:27.02 | | it has been said that jenson is a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy |
| 00:27.13 | Leeds | Jenson: keep it to yourself, or we'll all get it |
| 00:27.51 | Jenson | ibot jenson is also killing her computer on a regular basis |
| 00:27.52 | | Jenson: okay |
| 00:28.00 | Jenson | I had noticed dankolb |
| 00:28.02 | Leeds | ibot what is jenson? |
| 00:28.03 | | Leeds: I think you lost me on that one |
| 00:28.23 | Jenson | ibot Jenson |
| 00:28.23 | | it has been said that jenson is a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis |
| 00:28.49 | Leeds | ibot tell jenson about go to sleep |
| 00:29.04 | Jenson | lol Leeds tell me yourself |
| 00:29.52 | dankolb | Why am I still up? |
| 00:30.01 | Jenson | I don't know dankolb... |
| 00:30.19 | Leeds | ~ why is dankolb still up? |
| 00:30.19 | | Leeds: what are you talking about? |
| 00:30.33 | Leeds | ~ where is your home? |
| 00:30.34 | | Leeds: what are you talking about? |
| 00:30.37 | Jenson | It most definately isn't my fualt I'm just an innocent clean minded young geek girl |
| 00:30.43 | Leeds | hah ha ha |
| 00:30.44 | dankolb | No you're not |
| 00:30.53 | Jenson | ibot jenson is also innocent and clean-minded |
| 00:30.54 | | okay, Jenson |
| 00:31.14 | dankolb | ibot jenson is also not |
| 00:31.15 | | okay, dankolb |
| 00:31.17 | dankolb | ibot jenson |
| 00:31.18 | | i guess jenson is a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not |
| 00:31.21 | Leeds | you know the saying "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"? |
| 00:31.36 | Tarragon | ibot jenson is at http://www.btinternet.com/~lita16/personal.htm |
| 00:31.37 | | ...but jenson is already something else... |
| 00:31.37 | Leeds | ibot jenson is any number of other things |
| 00:31.37 | | ...but jenson is already something else... |
| 00:31.45 | Leeds | ibot jenson is also any number of other things |
| 00:31.46 | | okay, Leeds |
| 00:31.47 | Leeds | doh! |
| 00:32.17 | Jenson | ibot jenson is also having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys |
| 00:32.18 | | Jenson: okay |
| 00:32.35 | Leeds | I want to know what a moron is... |
| 00:32.39 | Leeds | and I'm not a boy... |
| 00:32.50 | Jenson | ibot Jenson |
| 00:32.50 | | somebody said jenson was a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys |
| 00:33.26 | dankolb | ibot jenson is also also adding them herself |
| 00:33.26 | | dankolb: okay |
| 00:33.30 | dankolb | ibot jenson |
| 00:33.30 | | jenson is, like, a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself |
| 00:34.10 | Leeds | ibot overloaded? |
| 00:34.11 | | wish i knew, Leeds |
| 00:34.22 | dankolb | ibot duck |
| 00:34.23 | | dankolb: are you smoking crack? |
| 00:34.24 | Jenson | I think I've got a long enough profile there lol |
| 00:34.28 | dankolb | :) |
| 00:34.31 | dankolb | ibot eye69 |
| 00:34.31 | | dankolb: no idea |
| 00:34.41 | Leeds | ibot SpudUAway |
| 00:34.46 | | spuduaway is, like, smoking crack |
| 00:34.51 | Jenson | ibot skugg |
| 00:34.52 | | Jenson: are you smoking crack? |
| 00:34.52 | Tarragon | But you can parse it so it plays out things at random |
| 00:35.13 | Leeds | ibot give jenson some crack |
| 00:35.14 | | i haven't a clue, Leeds |
| 00:35.23 | Tarragon | LOL Spud! Crack! Beer more likely |
| 00:35.23 | Jenson | Anyway goodnight guys |
| 00:35.25 | Leeds | SpudUAway: give Jenson some crack :-) |
| 00:35.29 | Tarragon | Night |
| 00:35.34 | Leeds | night |
| 00:35.36 | dankolb | 'night Jenson |
| 00:35.41 | dankolb | You on tomorrow? |
| 00:35.45 | dankolb | Or do we get an early night? |
| 00:36.15 | Jenson | No I won't be here tomorrow |
| 00:36.23 | Jenson | And no most likely you won't get an early night lol |
| 00:36.32 | Leeds | yay! |
| 00:36.33 | dankolb | If you're not here, though.... |
| 00:36.39 | Leeds | or not... |
| 00:36.47 | Jenson | I'll be back on Thursday evening. |
| 00:36.53 | dankolb | Not afternoon? |
| 00:36.55 | Leeds | dankolb: sssh - it means we can talk about her |
| 00:37.16 | Jenson | Leeds: I heard that |
| 00:37.23 | Jenson | ibot tell Leeds to shut up |
| 00:37.38 | dankolb | Leeds: Yeah. But we can do that during the afternoon too when she's not here |
| 00:38.07 | Jenson | I may be here in the afternoon if I get the chance |
| 00:38.13 | Jenson | Or the morning for that matter |
| 00:38.16 | Jenson | Just not the evening. |
| 00:38.31 | dankolb | Okay. |
| 00:38.37 | Leeds | in fact, /me goes to bed too |
| 00:38.43 | dankolb | 'night Leeds |
| 00:38.52 | Jenson | Night Leeds |
| 00:38.59 | Jenson | dankolb: go to bed |
| 00:39.02 | Leeds | and yaws and rolls |
| 00:39.08 | Jenson | Tarragon: go and get on with your Mac thing. |
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| 08:57.34 | SpudUAway | /nick SpudULike |
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| 09:09.58 | dank_work | Morning |
| 09:10.53 | Tarragon | Morning |
| 09:13.45 | Korenwolf | 'lo |
| 09:20.35 | dank_work | Ooh. Life at at this time of the morning :) |
| 09:24.33 | Tarragon | Life - Living dead this time of morning is more accurate. I need more coffee |
| 09:52.10 | dank_work | :) |
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| 10:50.07 | Tarragon | Coffee finished. Thank you. Off to the kitchen to get a Jolt. I just know it is going to be one of those days. |
| 10:53.41 | Tarragon | After the conversation last night - About 2:30am I finally got Alison to shave me. First time I have been clean shaven for weeks. No she did not use the electric razor on me. It does feel fantastic having someone else shave you. |
| 11:03.38 | SpudULike | Hmm, yeah. |
| 11:03.45 | Davilion | mornign all |
| 11:04.14 | SpudULike | Boy, have I got some explaining to do! |
| 11:09.11 | dank_work | :) |
| 11:13.59 | dank_work | Hi Davilion |
| 11:17.34 | Davilion | hi dan |
| 11:20.05 | Tarragon | You have to explain to an eight year old? But what they learn in schools these days means you should be learning from her. |
| 11:20.22 | dank_work | :-) |
| 11:21.23 | SpudULike | Yeah, kinda - "daddy, daddy, what's sandpaper?". It was different in my day, but then I'm so old I can remember Doris Day before she became a virgin. |
| 11:21.34 | dank_work | Heh. |
| 11:22.00 | dank_work | Jenson seems to have a bad effect on us, reducing the level of the conversation :) |
| 11:22.21 | SpudULike | You! On you lot!! Don't drag me down!!! |
| 11:22.26 | SpudULike | ;-) |
| 11:23.03 | SpudULike | Anyone know how to add stuff to the wikki, some choice line gotta be kept from last night! |
| 11:25.29 | dank_work | Which choice line, particularly? |
| 11:27.35 | SpudULike | <Tarragon> One girly and one bot and look how this channel has fallen ;-) |
| 11:27.50 | SpudULike | To name just one. |
| 11:28.14 | dank_work | Hehe :) |
| 11:40.35 | murb | good morning |
| 11:40.47 | SpudULike | Eeeek. Just opened the drive on the cd writer, not used it for a few weeks, full of dust. |
| 11:41.18 | SpudULike | Hi. |
| 11:43.20 | Tarragon | How did you get dust IN the drive. I have nice layers on the cases and inside where the fans blow but not in a CD-RW? |
| 11:44.45 | SpudULike | The writer is an external device and has its own PSU complete with fan. |
| 11:45.29 | SpudULike | Real fear is that there will still be dust bunnies inside, which the laser will catch, and whoshhhhhhhh. |
| 11:48.35 | Tarragon | Anti hunting law against that. We just breed the things here. Ye Olde Worlde Dust Bunnie Farm |
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| 11:49.28 | Tarragon | Hi Highbury. I am sorry about your loss. Please give Donna our condolences |
| 11:49.42 | highbury | thank you |
| 11:51.11 | Tarragon | ibot lart SpudULike |
| 12:00.20 | SpudULike | Hmm, why me being larted? |
| 12:03.21 | SpudULike | Bombs in Ikea, third one failed to go off because widget 3a was missing, apparently. |
| 12:31.53 | Tarragon | Bit extreme to bomb Ikea. I know if a bit is missing from a flatpack furniture item you do get a bit upset but not normally to make three bombs. Where were they? |
| 12:32.07 | dank_work | Flat-pack bombs? |
| 12:34.57 | Davilion | aarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh |
| 12:35.29 | Basil_Brush | Boom! Boom! |
| 12:36.21 | SpudULike | Wasn't Basil Brush supposed to be making a comeback? |
| 12:39.45 | dank_work | As an Ikea flat-pack? |
| 12:40.41 | Davilion | anybody know where i can get 16 way power distribution units with 32a plugs on the end real-fast? |
| 12:40.59 | dank_work | Maplin? |
| 12:41.18 | dank_work | Why do you need such a large one? |
| 12:41.55 | Tarragon | How fast? Today or first thing in the morning? |
| 12:43.36 | dank_work | RS is normally good, too |
| 12:44.41 | Davilion | dank_work: its for 128 machines. |
| 12:44.54 | Davilion | Tarragon: i need them by 10am tommorow, |
| 12:44.57 | SpudULike | Can't you splice 16 cables into the one plug? Tip - don't bother trying to fit cable strain relief gizmo, it won't fit. |
| 12:45.06 | Davilion | but i can drive anywhere to get them thats not an issue |
| 12:45.26 | Tarragon | If tomorrow you could try RS Components. http://www.rswww.com |
| 12:45.31 | dank_work | Phone up RS Components now, and pay extra for next-day delivery, pre-10am |
| 12:46.04 | Davilion | looking at rs now. |
| 12:46.04 | dank_work | Presumably you've got some better power into your server room, than a 13A ringmain? ;-) |
| 12:46.31 | SpudULike | OH, yeah, on that point, replace fuse with a nail. |
| 12:47.02 | Davilion | dank_work: yeah we only have 32a commando sockets |
| 12:47.07 | Davilion | but i need 13a output |
| 12:47.24 | dank_work | RS sell everything. Probably even kitchen sinks |
| 12:47.46 | Tarragon | RS are pricey but have everything. Worth getting their catalogue then buying from anyone else. |
| 12:48.26 | Davilion | yeah, im looking at rs, price isnt an issue really |
| 12:48.43 | dank_work | Otherwise, Maplin and Farnell can be cheaper. But RS has everything |
| 12:48.47 | Davilion | well since we just need to get them running tommorow our normal suppliers keep messing us around |
| 12:48.52 | dank_work | Right. Hometime. I'll be back within an hour |
| 12:49.47 | Davilion | its to go onsite thats the main problem and they dont have any 13a sockets at all |
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| 13:19.07 | Tarragon | Now I know why the coffee doesn't always work. http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/001_300/149.gif |
| 13:20.41 | resudaed | davilion > can you not get the strips with the 13A plug and wire in a 32A? |
| 13:21.16 | resudaed | if need be, wire in a circuit breaker as well |
| 13:22.57 | Davilion | resudaed: the problem is that 13A strips come with 13A cablew and 13A bodies, and im going to be using the full32A |
| 13:23.58 | resudaed | do the 13A's all need to be on the same strip? |
| 13:24.15 | Davilion | well i have 88 machines to plug into 4 32amp sockets. |
| 13:24.36 | Davilion | im using iec splitter cables so i need 44 sockets. |
| 13:25.37 | resudaed | using 2x8x13A strips wired into a single 32A plug would provide you with a theoretical 26A/16 |
| 13:28.13 | Tarragon | 88 machines outside - Quakefest? |
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| 13:29.55 | Davilion | Tarragon: 128 in total but the first bunch plus front ends already up |
| 13:30.02 | resudaed | davilion > you going to be online for the next hour or so? |
| 13:30.56 | formi | ibot: seen leeds? |
| 13:31.00 | | leeds <~richardc@vmlinuz.fsnet.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 12h 51m 58s ago, saying: 'and yaws and rolls'. |
| 13:31.02 | Davilion | http://www.informatics.leeds.ac.uk/pages/05_facilities/06_grid.htm |
| 13:31.06 | resudaed | I used to work with a company that did a lot with customised temporary power distros |
| 13:31.17 | formi | hi nguys |
| 13:31.17 | resudaed | they might have something that'll do the job |
| 13:31.19 | Davilion | resudaed: yeah should be |
| 13:31.33 | Davilion | i might nip out for some food but no major plans |
| 13:31.56 | resudaed | got nothing better to do right now, so I'll see what I can find for you |
| 13:32.09 | Davilion | resudaed: thanks. |
| 13:32.33 | highbury | is there such a thing as a Cordless DECT phone socket? I need to connect a fax machine to the phone line, but cant't run telephone cables to it |
| 13:56.34 | dank_work | 'ello |
| 14:11.25 | Tarragon | highbury: yes. The Airplug by Inventel is what you need. |
| 14:38.11 | resudaed | davilion > you still there? |
| 14:38.51 | Davilion | resudaed: yeah |
| 14:39.17 | resudaed | lol |
| 14:39.28 | resudaed | the best I can do is 2-3 days |
| 14:39.59 | Davilion | bugger. thanks for trying thouhg. |
| 14:40.02 | resudaed | most of their stock is 63A + |
| 14:40.19 | Davilion | resudaed: whats the company? do they do this kinda stuff normally? we're looking to change to a more reliable supplier |
| 14:41.50 | resudaed | the company is NSys, nowhere to be found on the web, and not listed by 192 |
| 14:42.37 | resudaed | the only way I have of contacting them is though 1 poor guys mobile, I will try to find proper contact details |
| 14:43.08 | resudaed | I am also trying to get a job there again, so I'll probably be buiilding for you :) |
| 14:51.13 | dank_work | Sounds very trustworthy... |
| 14:51.46 | resudaed | they basically have a decent customer base, and stick to their own industry in which they are very well known |
| 14:53.14 | resudaed | I worked for them for them (on site) for a year before I went to college full time |
| 14:59.07 | Davilion | resudaed: we order quite a lot of power strips, either 12-20way 23Amp strips, or smaller 13A strips, were looking to change, basically we dont need next day delivery, what we do need is when we ask when they will be delivered, to be told a realistic figure, and notified if theres a problem. |
| 15:00.26 | resudaed | davilion, this may sound crazy, but if I can source the parts, I can build them for you. I have built many units for similar purposes |
| 15:01.27 | resudaed | I can also get them approved by NECEIC qualified electricians if necessary |
| 15:01.46 | Davilion | you need to be a company, as we need to be invoiced by you etc. Otoh, if you can source the parts, we might be able to employ you to do it or something. |
| 15:02.19 | resudaed | either way, I am officially self employed |
| 15:02.25 | Davilion | cool. |
| 15:02.31 | resudaed | my previous work has required me to invoice |
| 15:02.37 | Davilion | thats good enough for us, i'll speak to mike etc. |
| 15:02.43 | Davilion | let me know what you can do and what you charge etc. |
| 15:02.43 | resudaed | employment would be preferable though :) |
| 15:02.56 | resudaed | are you after rack or trailing? |
| 15:03.32 | Davilion | probably both, we generally use trailing with a L bracket at each end which we bolt to the rack. |
| 15:03.41 | Davilion | but sometimes we use horizontal rack mounted ones |
| 15:04.13 | *** join/#gllug murb (~murble@clepto.pho.be) |
| 15:04.26 | resudaed | ok, I'll see what I can do about 'what can do' and cost etc. |
| 15:05.56 | Davilion | cool. thanks. |
| 15:37.37 | highbury | Tarragon: 199 euros! |
| 16:30.57 | Tarragon | OK - Airway from Lake communications http://www.lakecommunications.com Taroussa from the Russian Goodwin company. Failing that what about cheap laptop and wireless network with mgetty |
| 16:54.10 | Davilion | http://www.b3ta.com/youcantspell/ (rude) heheheh |
| 16:56.19 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:42.51 | skugg | :) |
| 17:42.56 | skugg | http://mybox.trenger.ro/leilighet/pepperkakelaptop.jpg |
| 17:43.02 | skugg | :)) |
| 17:44.15 | skugg | 'trenger.ro' is roughly equivalent to "needs peace and quiet" by the way |
| 17:45.42 | dank_work | Hi skugg |
| 17:47.51 | skugg | hi dan |
| 17:48.30 | dank_work | Obviously |
| 17:48.31 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:48.40 | skugg | due in tomorrow :S |
| 17:48.48 | dank_work | Eek |
| 17:48.49 | skugg | ah well, have most of it done I guess |
| 17:48.52 | dank_work | Have you almost finished? |
| 17:48.56 | skugg | yes |
| 17:49.33 | dank_work | Good :) |
| 17:50.13 | skugg | i'm bored, not stupid :) |
| 17:50.30 | skugg | regardless, not done as much as I should have. |
| 17:50.32 | dank_work | But still leaving everything till the last moment? ;-) |
| 17:50.48 | skugg | just this coursework. |
| 17:50.59 | skugg | normally i'm finished quite some time in advance |
| 17:51.31 | skugg | this is the first one I've had that i've seriously considered just not handing in in protest of it being so boring |
| 17:51.37 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:51.56 | skugg | i passed the coursework part already because of my first coursework in this module so... |
| 17:51.59 | skugg | :) |
| 17:52.13 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:52.16 | dank_work | So you're sorted. |
| 17:52.22 | skugg | well. |
| 17:52.37 | skugg | i still have to pass the exam :) |
| 17:53.45 | *** join/#gllug will (~will@212.56.100.49) |
| 17:53.53 | will | 'lo |
| 17:53.56 | dank_work | Yeah. Good luck with that, whenever it is |
| 17:53.58 | dank_work | Hi will |
| 17:54.07 | will | anyone want to help with a mutt problem? |
| 17:54.21 | dank_work | Sure. "rpm -Uvh pine*" |
| 17:54.30 | will | :-) |
| 17:54.45 | will | I used to use mutt then went to mozilla mail |
| 17:54.52 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:54.53 | will | now I am sort of using mutt again |
| 17:55.04 | dank_work | What's the problem with it? |
| 17:55.12 | will | but I can't seem to view the spool |
| 17:55.25 | dank_work | Permission problem? |
| 17:55.29 | will | I have two folders, Inbox and sent |
| 17:55.31 | skugg | hello will |
| 17:55.47 | will | and also the spool, /var/mail/will |
| 17:56.02 | will | I can view the spool when mutt first opens, it defaults to it |
| 17:56.08 | dank_work | ! |
| 17:56.13 | dank_work | That's the folder name for the spool |
| 17:56.25 | dank_work | So c! will change to it |
| 17:56.32 | will | but I don't seem to be able to get back to it |
| 17:56.34 | will | I will try that |
| 17:57.00 | will | Ah, thanks :-)# |
| 17:57.04 | dank_work | np |
| 17:57.21 | skugg | dank_work, uh, thanks. i consider myself quite knowledgable with mutt, but i didn't know that one |
| 17:57.57 | skugg | (a few synapses fired in the back of my brain, but didn't yield any result. they're re-trained now) |
| 17:58.01 | dank_work | I only learned it a couple of weeks ago |
| 17:58.45 | dank_work | :) |
| 17:59.37 | will | I 'learned' it once (copied someone elses config file) and used it for a few weeks |
| 17:59.39 | skugg | i think i know roughly what the problem is, but i'm not sure if i manage to solve it |
| 18:00.02 | will | isync will be good, can you let me (us) know if you fix the problem? |
| 18:01.54 | skugg | yeah, I will. |
| 18:02.35 | skugg | this page describes what I think is the problem better than I can: |
| 18:02.37 | skugg | http://www.angio.net/misc/mail.html |
| 18:02.48 | will | any good resources for configuring mutt? |
| 18:03.07 | skugg | see the third paragraph under the header Mutt configuration: Spool machine for the explanation |
| 18:03.08 | will | it is still pretty new to me and I am probably mis-configuring it :-) |
| 18:03.16 | skugg | will, mutt.org have some good examples |
| 18:03.21 | will | thanks |
| 18:03.55 | skugg | i have some examples too, with the benefit that you can ask me and i will maybe be capable of answering what the hell it's for :P |
| 18:04.23 | skugg | brautaset.org/config/muttrc |
| 18:04.55 | skugg | that's a pretty old one though... |
| 18:11.25 | dank_work | Right. Hometime. Definitely |
| 18:11.38 | dank_work | C'ya later |
| 18:12.26 | will | late |
| 18:12.27 | will | are |
| 18:12.29 | will | later |
| 18:12.34 | will | or something |
| 18:12.52 | will | wierd |
| 18:12.56 | will | I have macro index i "c!\n" |
| 18:12.56 | will | macro browser i "c!\n" |
| 18:13.01 | will | oops |
| 18:13.02 | will | macro index i "c!\n" |
| 18:13.03 | will | macro browser i "c!\n" |
| 18:13.07 | will | in my .muttrdc |
| 18:13.12 | will | .muttrc |
| 18:13.17 | will | I need some new fingers.. |
| 18:14.05 | will | the 'i' key goes toithe spool from inside the inbox, but not from the folder inbox |
| 18:14.26 | will | from the folder inbox it gives the error: |
| 18:14.27 | will | /home/will/Mail/!: No such file or directory (errno = 2) |
| 18:14.34 | will | any ideas? |
| 18:18.08 | will | Bah, I am going to the pub. |
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| 19:56.54 | SpudULike | You never can tell! |
| 19:57.12 | resudaed_away | hi |
| 19:57.18 | SpudULike | hi |
| 19:58.15 | resudaed | are you going to this weekends gllug meeting? |
| 19:58.45 | SpudULike | Almost definitely. |
| 19:59.01 | SpudULike | You? |
| 19:59.24 | resudaed | yes, but I don't know anyone who I'll be seeing down there :) |
| 19:59.29 | resudaed | (first time) |
| 19:59.59 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (~richardc@vmlinuz.fsnet.co.uk) |
| 20:00.08 | Tarragon | Well I will be there. I am blonde about 5'10" and will be in a tie. |
| 20:00.10 | SpudULike | It will be the first time for others too, so don't worry too much about it. |
| 20:00.53 | SpudULike | You going straight from work, or will the tie be around your forehead, which means you've come straight from some club. |
| 20:01.01 | Tarragon | ;-) |
| 20:01.10 | resudaed | is there a dress code then :) ? |
| 20:01.26 | Tarragon | Yes |
| 20:01.36 | Tarragon | No nakid computing! |
| 20:01.41 | Leeds | what's this? |
| 20:01.52 | SpudULike | I think everyone is usually grateful if everyone else is dressed, 'part from that no. |
| 20:02.35 | Tarragon | s/mainly/manly |
| 20:02.39 | SpudULike | I said brow! |
| 20:03.06 | Leeds | that too... |
| 20:04.47 | resudaed | :) |
| 20:06.19 | resudaed | evening leeds |
| 20:06.49 | resudaed | so are there a lot of new people every time? |
| 20:06.49 | Leeds | hey, resudaed |
| 20:07.18 | Leeds | at GLLUG? depends |
| 20:07.28 | resudaed | leeds, are you actually in leeds? |
| 20:07.47 | Leeds | why would I be? |
| 20:07.54 | Leeds | are you actually a dead user? |
| 20:07.57 | resudaed | the name |
| 20:08.00 | SpudULike | resudaed: Could be, never talk to new people myself. |
| 20:08.01 | resudaed | most of the time |
| 20:08.59 | resudaed | leeds, you are the first person to ever realise what resudaed actually meant |
| 20:09.09 | EkilUDups | Hmm, EkilUDups has a ring to it. |
| 20:09.33 | resudaed | :) |
| 20:09.43 | Leeds | sdeel? |
| 20:09.57 | resudaed | not quite as effective |
| 20:10.11 | EkilUDups | OK, game, everyone change their nick backwards, confuse all those that join. |
| 20:10.13 | Leeds | resudaed: I bet I'm not the first... maybe the first to mention it |
| 20:10.38 | Leeds | deaduser: not quite as effective... |
| 20:10.53 | deaduser | :) I know, but may still confuse someone |
| 20:11.50 | EkilUDups | Noggarat has a real ring to it. :-))) |
| 20:12.09 | deaduser | shame he can't be bothered |
| 20:12.18 | sdeeL | sounds nice and ancient :-) |
| 20:12.29 | EkilUDups | Sounds criminal! |
| 20:12.40 | sdeeL | oh no - it's spreading... someone on #handhelds.org has turned his around too |
| 20:12.51 | EkilUDups | Bit like Muffin the Mule, but tighter. |
| 20:13.42 | EkilUDups | I'll bring diagrams on Saturday. |
| 20:13.57 | sdeeL | kiddie thing? |
| 20:14.10 | deaduser | was thinking sounded more like an 'adult' thing |
| 20:14.41 | sdeeL | I think EkilUDups is more a kiddie person |
| 20:14.58 | sdeeL | if you catch my drift... |
| 20:15.02 | deaduser | :) |
| 20:15.11 | EkilUDups | Oi, that sorta talk could get someone arrested. |
| 20:15.37 | deaduser | it's alright, no-one knows who you are ... you have your name spelt backwards |
| 20:16.04 | sdeeL | nogarraT knows who he is... |
| 20:16.42 | sdeeL | I think EkilUDups is more likely to drop comments related to things kids might like than things adults might like |
| 20:16.51 | sdeeL | better? |
| 20:17.06 | EkilUDups | True to say that I am a family man. |
| 20:17.07 | deaduser | great, just no-one's joined yet |
| 20:18.05 | EkilUDups | Might have to keep it up a while. Nosnej is not due on until tomorrow I understand. |
| 20:18.09 | Nogarrat | OK deaduser - how will we recognise one another? |
| 20:18.27 | EkilUDups | None of us will have ties on. |
| 20:20.00 | Nogarrat | I think there are a couple of users who wear ties to the meeting. |
| 20:20.43 | sdeeL | yeah... dunno why... |
| 20:21.04 | Deaduser | the only clean trousers I have are combats |
| 20:21.09 | Nogarrat | They feel comfortable in them. Their choice. |
| 20:21.38 | Nogarrat | Well that will make you stand out from about 50% of group |
| 20:22.05 | Deaduser | with the combined dark hair and goaty, make that 55% of the group |
| 20:22.21 | Nogarrat | No still 50% |
| 20:22.36 | EkilUDups | I have a 55% goaty. |
| 20:23.12 | EkilUDups | Not sure if I should call it a 'goa' or a 'aty' or shave it off. |
| 20:23.15 | Nogarrat | EkilUDups is banned from bringing a goat |
| 20:23.26 | Deaduser | :) |
| 20:23.31 | EkilUDups | Oh, the mules ok then. |
| 20:23.39 | sdeeL | but, but... I thought goats were welcome? |
| 20:23.44 | Nogarrat | Well.... |
| 20:24.39 | Nogarrat | Is Yrakcaz back in time for the meeting? |
| 20:24.54 | sdeeL | I thought so... |
| 20:25.26 | Deaduser | sdeeL, maybay Sdeel would be more confusing for our easily confused guests (primarily female/blond ones) |
| 20:25.37 | EkilUDups | sdeeL s/be Sdeel, Shirley. |
| 20:25.48 | EkilUDups | JinX1 |
| 20:25.58 | EkilUDups | Jinx! even! |
| 20:26.03 | Deaduser | :) |
| 20:26.06 | sdeeL | eh... she's easily enough confused :-) |
| 20:26.30 | Deaduser | how the hell ... :) |
| 20:26.47 | EkilUDups | Just mention sandpaper! |
| 20:26.54 | sdeeL | :-) |
| 20:26.54 | Nogarrat | Noooooooo! |
| 20:26.57 | Deaduser | and vibrators |
| 20:27.05 | sdeeL | did the job... |
| 20:27.45 | Nogarrat | She is not even here and look how it degenerates |
| 20:27.56 | Deaduser | heh, just noticed :-) |
| 20:28.03 | sdeeL | Deaduser brought her up... |
| 20:30.21 | Deaduser | actually, EkilUDups did |
| 20:30.51 | EkilUDups | I never swallowed her. |
| 20:31.07 | sdeeL | true |
| 20:31.23 | Deaduser | not while we were watching, but where is she now? |
| 20:31.49 | Nogarrat | Still in school |
| 20:32.04 | Deaduser | harsh |
| 20:32.22 | Deaduser | what'd she do? |
| 20:32.40 | Nogarrat | Yes but someone of my great age can get away with it. |
| 20:33.36 | Deaduser | does anyone have access enough to reverse ibot's nick? |
| 20:34.02 | sdeeL | nah... and remember that he's on a buch of channels... |
| 20:34.38 | Nogarrat | Though to be fair she has livened the group up a little. - Hmmm wonder if really she is a troll. Would be very funny if she was. |
| 20:34.52 | sdeeL | actually, I'm wrong... he's only on #gllug and #handhelds.org now... |
| 20:35.11 | Nogarrat | Obviously ibot is dieting. |
| 20:35.17 | *** join/#gllug tobi (~colin@pc-80-193-219-36-ca.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 20:35.28 | Deaduser | impressive :) |
| 20:35.39 | sdeeL | tobi insult EkilUDups |
| 20:35.40 | Nogarrat | tobi ecnad! |
| 20:36.10 | Deaduser | don't think he works too well backwards |
| 20:36.23 | Nogarrat | need script? |
| 20:37.03 | EkilUDups | Must be some bad lag about. |
| 20:38.36 | sdeeL | Deaduser: now everyone in #handhelds.org is having a go at me! |
| 20:38.42 | Deaduser | sorry |
| 20:38.52 | sdeeL | no probs... |
| 20:38.56 | EkilUDups | But how many have swapped nicks? |
| 20:39.37 | sdeeL | only two... one swapped back... and one other looked at his and didn't like it |
| 20:40.22 | EkilUDups | Some can be harsh, Niloc does no one no favours! |
| 20:40.36 | sdeeL | yeah... |
| 20:45.39 | Nogarrat | Sorry was working. |
| 20:45.57 | EkilUDups | Burning disks. |
| 20:46.36 | sdeeL | heh |
| 20:46.37 | Nogarrat | :-) |
| 20:46.41 | *** join/#gllug dankolb (~dankolb@host213-122-179-68.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 20:46.48 | eye96 | Can't have a nick starting with numbers. :) |
| 20:46.59 | Deaduser | hey dankolb |
| 20:47.05 | Nogarrat | Didn't know that |
| 20:47.06 | dankolb | Evening |
| 20:47.18 | Nogarrat | Hi Bloknad |
| 20:47.26 | EkilUDups | hahahahaaha |
| 20:47.37 | Deaduser | Nogarrat, too blatent |
| 20:47.53 | eye96 | Evening bloknaD |
| 20:48.07 | dankolb | Are we all backwards for some reason? |
| 20:48.28 | EkilUDups | There was some reason. |
| 20:48.34 | Deaduser | we've always been backwards, is why spend out lives on irc |
| 20:50.00 | dankolb | :-) |
| 20:50.08 | Nogarrat | We don't spend all our time on IRC, we have lives outside we... we... nevermind |
| 20:50.40 | dankolb | Yeah. For instance, I'm at work during the day. Not on IR.....oh. |
| 20:50.40 | sdeeL | Nogarrat: speak for yourself |
| 20:50.42 | EkilUDups | Once I can manage to type Bloknad without laughing I'm sure the nick will grow on me. |
| 20:50.53 | sdeeL | rofl |
| 20:51.27 | eye96 | So, everybody up for friday? |
| 20:51.33 | eye96 | Nad? |
| 20:51.35 | Deaduser | friday? |
| 20:51.39 | sdeeL | Friday? |
| 20:51.39 | Nogarrat | OK so Sdeel once (ONCE) did something worthwhile |
| 20:51.42 | eye96 | Saturday! |
| 20:51.44 | Nogarrat | friday |
| 20:52.08 | Nogarrat | Yes. |
| 20:52.11 | Deaduser | no |
| 20:54.06 | Deaduser | dankolb, it's not that bad :) |
| 20:54.20 | dankolb | :-) |
| 20:54.37 | dankolb | I know. |
| 20:55.53 | Deaduser | it was all because Sdeel made a startling discovery about my name earlier |
| 20:56.07 | dankolb | Ah right. |
| 20:56.17 | sdeeL | www.whatbadgerseat.com |
| 20:56.44 | EkilUDups | Deaduser: To put your mind at rest, there are photos of some of the people going on Saturday at - http://www.colinmurphy.me.uk/~colin/gllug2002.html |
| 20:57.46 | Deaduser | I'm sorry, but the last thing that's done is put my mind at rest |
| 20:57.59 | dankolb | :) |
| 20:58.03 | EkilUDups | Err, oh, yeah. |
| 20:58.11 | EkilUDups | 'tis ok, Kim is away! |
| 20:58.24 | Deaduser | :-) |
| 20:58.29 | EkilUDups | And the Penguin made a full recovery. |
| 20:58.37 | Deaduser | lol |
| 21:00.16 | Deaduser | are you not in there? |
| 21:00.28 | EkilUDups | Skugg is Stig and Nogarrat is John |
| 21:00.38 | EkilUDups | Someone has to hold the camera. |
| 21:00.46 | Deaduser | easy cop-out |
| 21:01.05 | sdeeL | other, old photos at http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/gllug/ |
| 21:01.07 | EkilUDups | http://www.colinmurphy.me.uk/~colin/Grrrweek.jpeg if you must. |
| 21:01.26 | sdeeL | with EkilUDups sitting right in the front row :-) |
| 21:03.12 | sdeeL | for what it's worth, http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/gllug/photo-020.jpg (at the front) is me |
| 21:04.08 | Nogarrat | Only just noticed Dean in that old photo |
| 21:05.31 | sdeeL | not me |
| 21:05.39 | sdeeL | lager lager lager |
| 21:05.55 | eye96 | Lager here too |
| 21:06.27 | dankolb | And some Lagers. Generally the European ones |
| 21:06.32 | dankolb | (i.e. not brewed in UK) |
| 21:06.46 | sdeeL | oh, yeah... got to be European... |
| 21:06.57 | Deaduser | saying that, I do like bottled lager |
| 21:07.17 | eye96 | Lapinkulta! |
| 21:07.36 | dankolb | The lagers you tend to get on tap here are brewed in the UK, and aren't that nice. |
| 21:07.47 | dankolb | A nice German lager is good. |
| 21:07.57 | dankolb | (i.e. anything that doesn't have artificial crap in it) |
| 21:08.10 | eye96 | I drank a whole lot of German lager at Wacken Open Air (www.wacken.com) |
| 21:08.46 | Deaduser | I drank a whole lot of beer at last years beer festival (I was working) |
| 21:08.49 | Nogarrat | Oh - disagree. I used to work for James Vickers so I know the amount of crap in German beer |
| 21:09.54 | *** join/#gllug cupis (~paul@modem-223.orangutan.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 21:09.55 | Nogarrat | All - Why? |
| 21:10.07 | eye96 | I read most of them actually. |
| 21:10.13 | sdeeL | most - I skim some when I think I have no interest in the thread |
| 21:10.14 | Deaduser | just wondering, because there is so many of them |
| 21:10.34 | Deaduser | and my irc client tells me every time I receive one |
| 21:15.23 | Deaduser | what's the easiest way to compile c++ program on linux? |
| 21:15.47 | sdeeL | make :-) |
| 21:16.00 | Deaduser | without a makefile or anything useful |
| 21:16.15 | dankolb | c++ foo.cpp |
| 21:16.22 | sdeeL | g++ file.cpp -o binary |
| 21:16.56 | Deaduser | is there a difference between c++ & g++? |
| 21:17.02 | dankolb | Nope |
| 21:17.09 | dankolb | Apart from c++ will work on other Unix systems |
| 21:17.25 | sdeeL | g++ is the name of the gcc C++ front-end - c++ is an alias for it... |
| 21:17.41 | Deaduser | and it'll compile it to a file of the same name but without cpp on the end? |
| 21:17.47 | Deaduser | (by default) |
| 21:17.52 | dankolb | It'll compile to a.out by default |
| 21:18.15 | Deaduser | a.out being in the same dir? |
| 21:18.28 | dankolb | Yes |
| 21:18.41 | skugg | *deadringer voice* who calls my name? |
| 21:18.57 | sdeeL | skugg: go back to sleep - we were just talking about you |
| 21:19.02 | skugg | oh. is it 'nick-backwards' time/ |
| 21:19.03 | EkilUDups | Talking about you, not to you! |
| 21:19.04 | skugg | ? |
| 21:19.09 | skugg | i see |
| 21:19.10 | skugg | :) |
| 21:19.21 | skugg | i was wondering who EkilUDups was, but I see it now :) |
| 21:19.21 | sdeeL | gguks: yes |
| 21:19.40 | gguks | well, I can play that game too i guess :) |
| 21:19.44 | EkilUDups | dan, you not joining in??? |
| 21:19.48 | dankolb | *mumble* |
| 21:19.50 | dankolb | Go on then |
| 21:20.00 | Deaduser | hah, sorry |
| 21:20.00 | EkilUDups | hahahahaaha |
| 21:20.17 | EkilUDups | I can't help myself.. |
| 21:20.19 | bloknad | :) |
| 21:20.27 | sdeeL | heh |
| 21:20.39 | EkilUDups | rotfpmwl |
| 21:20.50 | sdeeL | wl? |
| 21:21.03 | Nogarrat | That's rude! |
| 21:21.20 | EkilUDups | Yeah, but no reference to green jelly! |
| 21:22.02 | EkilUDups | F = Full. |
| 21:22.07 | gguks | f = fine |
| 21:22.10 | gguks | :) |
| 21:22.34 | gguks | also, according to V.E.R.A : F == Flaming |
| 21:23.06 | sdeeL | what? |
| 21:26.46 | sdeeL | I have a screenfull of gnu! Life of Mammals on BBC :-) |
| 21:27.04 | Nogarrat | Zebras |
| 21:27.41 | sdeeL | aka oViT :-) |
| 21:28.29 | Nogarrat | Must get a TiVo would be so useful. There again all the videotape I have and never watch. |
| 21:28.35 | EkilUDups | Who would have guessed that there is over a gigs worth of Just a Minute shows on mp3. |
| 21:28.55 | Nogarrat | Long running series. |
| 21:29.12 | EkilUDups | TV card might be better. |
| 21:29.52 | sdeeL | tiny antelope :-) |
| 21:30.09 | Nogarrat | Bison in number |
| 21:30.19 | EkilUDups | JaM started in 1968. |
| 21:30.32 | sdeeL | Nogarrat: much walking beef :-) |
| 21:30.52 | sdeeL | just as a bison post comes through on the list :-) |
| 21:31.33 | Deaduser | why? |
| 21:31.35 | sdeeL | whoa - antelope standing up :-) |
| 21:33.47 | Deaduser | gguks is a long time making this tea |
| 21:34.20 | Nogarrat | Japanese ceremony |
| 21:35.53 | gguks | Deaduser_away, heh. |
| 21:36.04 | gguks | i'm back, but I thought I'd get away with it :P |
| 21:36.13 | sdeeL | ah, stripy horses |
| 21:36.37 | bloknad | Lurkingis good |
| 21:36.53 | Nogarrat | You can get arrested for that. |
| 21:37.03 | dankolb | For lurking? |
| 21:37.09 | dankolb | That's loitering |
| 21:37.52 | Nogarrat | Would be hard to prove what you are doing outside some ones house was only lurking. |
| 21:37.59 | gguks | "nogarrat" -- append a "h" and it sounds really goth-ish. |
| 21:38.31 | gguks | Nogarrat, yes, but i think I should be safe lurking in front of my computer,don't you think? |
| 21:40.04 | Nogarrat | Well sort of depends where you are lurking. Here fine, Some binaries sites (EkilUDups!) possible, Other binaries sites No, |
| 21:46.35 | gguks | Nogarrat, heh. yes, I can relate to that :) |
| 21:46.53 | gguks | at least in a work-environment I guess :) |
| 21:51.42 | Nogarrat | gguks: what do you use to change your cartoons webpage each day? |
| 21:51.52 | sdeeL | watching animals eating each other is making me hungry :-) |
| 21:52.10 | gguks | Nogarrat, dailystrips |
| 21:52.14 | dankolb | sdeeL: So go eat an animal, then |
| 21:52.28 | gguks | Nogarrat, it's apt-gettable in debian... |
| 21:52.46 | gguks | it's also available from sourceforge (I think it was) |
| 21:52.50 | gguks | it's really easy to use |
| 21:52.55 | sdeeL | I ate animal yesterday |
| 21:52.59 | Nogarrat | Thanks. |
| 21:53.02 | gguks | Nogarrat, np. |
| 21:53.23 | gguks | Nogarrat, by the way... I'm open for suggestions if you want something added there :) |
| 21:54.28 | gguks | used to waste an hour a day browsing "my toons" before I found out about dailystrips |
| 21:55.19 | dankolb | :) |
| 21:55.26 | dankolb | Nothing wrong with spending quality time reading cartoons |
| 22:00.49 | Nogarrat | I browse the usual six a day. |
| 22:01.30 | dankolb | Which ones? |
| 22:04.21 | gguks | dankolb, nothing wrong spending time reading them, but spending time wating for the page to load was a pain... |
| 22:04.44 | dankolb | Well, yeah. |
| 22:04.47 | gguks | dankolb, now I get them all served on a single page for me, so they load while I read the first one. |
| 22:04.53 | gguks | dankolb, you seen it yet? |
| 22:04.59 | Nogarrat | User Friendly, Dilbert, Joy of Tech, PC&Pixel, Bizarro and Pearls before Swine |
| 22:05.04 | gguks | printf.net/~stig/toons |
| 22:05.27 | gguks | Nogarrat, i have half of those on my list already... |
| 22:05.36 | gguks | bizarro is one of my favourites. |
| 22:05.45 | gguks | dilbert is often gold too. |
| 22:06.08 | gguks | i must admit i'm starting to loose interest in user friendly |
| 22:06.26 | dankolb | It's been a bit crap this year |
| 22:06.27 | gguks | have followed it for many years now |
| 22:06.32 | gguks | dankolb, yeah |
| 22:06.45 | dankolb | Sid was really great, though :) |
| 22:06.53 | gguks | i didn't like him... |
| 22:07.05 | gguks | he stepped on pitr, my fav character :P |
| 22:07.19 | dankolb | Nah. Sid was an old timer |
| 22:07.32 | dankolb | With a collection of punched cards he sent off to Florida |
| 22:07.38 | gguks | dankolb, yes, I know. |
| 22:07.54 | dankolb | That's far more evil than writing vigo |
| 22:07.56 | dankolb | *vigor |
| 22:08.19 | Nogarrat | Vigor actually works. |
| 22:08.20 | gguks | you tried vigor? |
| 22:08.29 | gguks | i have it installed :P |
| 22:09.34 | Nogarrat | Yes it is pevrse |
| 22:12.53 | dankolb | We made it Jon Masters' default editor |
| 22:14.52 | dankolb | He annoyed us |
| 22:15.29 | Nogarrat | I would love to say - "A name from the past" but unfortunately had to deal with him this week. |
| 22:16.01 | dankolb | Oh? In what way? |
| 22:16.03 | sdeeL | yeah? |
| 22:16.55 | Nogarrat | Ah well... You know how I sort of write a couple of different Linux mags... He wrote a letter. |
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| 22:17.50 | dankolb_ | How fucking typical |
| 22:17.52 | dankolb_ | Just as soon as I ask a question, I get disconnected |
| 22:18.03 | Nogarrat | Ah well... You know how I sort of write a couple of different Linux mags... He wrote a letter. |
| 22:18.27 | sdeeL | a couple of mags? |
| 22:18.43 | dankolb_ | Yeah.... |
| 22:18.47 | dankolb_ | Go on.. |
| 22:18.50 | Nogarrat | Err yes! |
| 22:19.40 | Nogarrat | Very embarrassing but a rival magazine sort of needs an editor and no-one would do it so I sort of helped out. |
| 22:19.49 | dankolb_ | Linux User? |
| 22:19.58 | Nogarrat | ;-) |
| 22:20.17 | Nogarrat | This hole before me. Deep is it? |
| 22:20.30 | EkilUDups | A shovel is no use for this type of hole digging. |
| 22:20.32 | dankolb_ | Only if as short as Yoda you are |
| 22:21.05 | dankolb_ | What sort of letter did JCM write? |
| 22:21.42 | Nogarrat | Was telling everyone about his new project |
| 22:21.50 | dankolb_ | Which is? |
| 22:22.09 | Nogarrat | Genesis. |
| 22:22.23 | dankolb_ | .... |
| 22:23.09 | sdeeL | in the beginning... |
| 22:23.20 | Nogarrat | http://research.jonmasters.org/projects/genesis/ |
| 22:23.37 | sdeeL | research :-) |
| 22:23.41 | dankolb_ | So he wrote a letter to various editors of magazines about it? |
| 22:24.09 | Nogarrat | Well to me yes. I don't think he knows I go to GLLUG |
| 22:24.27 | sdeeL | ah, he's going down the well-trod "well, Linus started an operating system from scratch, so why shouldn't I?" path |
| 22:24.48 | gguks | picked a nice name for it too. |
| 22:24.59 | dankolb_ | Ah right. So to you, in your capacity as editor of Linux Format^WMagazine? ;-) |
| 22:25.29 | Nogarrat | Yes. I suppose it was a slow day and I needed a laugh. |
| 22:25.42 | dankolb_ | :) |
| 22:25.56 | dankolb_ | Why redesign a microkernel? Why not just use the Hurd? |
| 22:26.29 | sdeeL | gguks: that would be the god complex coming out |
| 22:26.58 | dankolb_ | Anyway. I'm off to watch 2DTV. Back in 30 mins or so |
| 22:27.00 | gguks | gee. |
| 22:27.07 | gguks | not much actual information there though. |
| 22:27.27 | gguks | can't even begin to understand how he would publish something that unfinished. |
| 22:27.43 | Nogarrat | ego |
| 22:27.52 | gguks | i guess |
| 22:28.22 | gguks | but, i have to log off now so I manage to finish off this coursework before it's due in! |
| 22:28.25 | gguks | bye for now... |
| 22:28.55 | sdeeL | g'night |
| 22:29.22 | Nogarrat | night |
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| 22:50.42 | sdeeL | ha ha |
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| 22:53.35 | irvined | Evening all |
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| 22:53.41 | Nogarrat | Evening |
| 22:53.47 | Nogarrat | Why? |
| 22:54.03 | dankolb | Rehi |
| 22:55.16 | irvined | Nogarrat: just been out in a racing car. |
| 22:55.25 | irvined | well it was on the road, but it was full race spec kit car, |
| 22:55.28 | irvined | much funnness |
| 22:55.42 | Nogarrat | cool! what type? where? |
| 22:56.58 | irvined | www.locost-racing.com |
| 22:57.13 | irvined | custom made, everythings made from bits of baked bean tins |
| 22:57.13 | Nogarrat | Ah 250£ ones |
| 22:57.13 | irvined | with a ford kent engine in it. |
| 22:57.31 | irvined | yeah |
| 22:57.49 | irvined | i dont think the book has that as the title any more, its just how to make your on sports car |
| 22:58.01 | irvined | it should be in brackets (and bankrupt yourself) |
| 22:58.56 | Nogarrat | Is there much help from others? |
| 22:58.58 | irvined | i've been building mine for a few months, but its good motivation to be inside a real one |
| 22:59.11 | irvined | yeah its got the whole open source linux type community |
| 22:59.31 | irvined | because its based on a book, lots of mailing lists and i was at the equivilent of a LUG meet tonightt |
| 23:00.47 | irvined | you fancy making one? |
| 23:01.12 | Nogarrat | I occasionally hill race in a mini. |
| 23:01.18 | irvined | oooooh cool |
| 23:01.31 | irvined | its in a bit of a state at the moment though |
| 23:01.39 | irvined | but it used to be quite pokey. |
| 23:01.52 | Nogarrat | G reg Racing Green LE 26K on clock |
| 23:02.12 | irvined | '79 clubman, 1430 Turbo, two pot calipers, and a very big roll cage. |
| 23:02.19 | irvined | nice. |
| 23:02.29 | sdeeL | oh God - apparently it's the Java folks' fault that Java doesn't work on a gcc 3.x-compiled Mozilla... they've used a C++ symbol in the plugin :-( |
| 23:02.40 | irvined | i quite fancy doing something with mine, its sitting looking sorry for itself the shell is covered in fractures from the engine |
| 23:04.55 | dankolb | sdeeL: Have words with them, then |
| 23:08.19 | sdeeL | dankolb: it's very possible I will :-) |
| 23:08.36 | dankolb | Good :) |
| 23:09.22 | sdeeL | I'm getting to really like Moz... it's pretty stable, pretty quick, pretty... pretty :-) |
| 23:09.30 | sdeeL | but Java can be useful... |
| 23:09.43 | dankolb | It's okay. With quite a few annoyances |
| 23:10.27 | dankolb | It crashed a couple of times for me in the last couple of days for no apparent reason |
| 23:10.41 | dankolb | Also, I tried removing some SSL certificates, and it didn't do it |
| 23:10.52 | dankolb | Went as far as the action of clicking 'delete', but that was it |
| 23:11.16 | dankolb | And on MacOS X, the version I've got has a memory leak, so if it's left running a few days it slows to a crawl |
| 23:11.25 | sdeeL | never tried that... |
| 23:12.02 | sdeeL | but it's very possible it leaks RAM |
| 23:12.09 | dankolb | The version on FreeBSD doesn't seem to have that problem (although I'm not running the mail client with it) |
| 23:12.34 | sdeeL | not really a problem at home, since I turn my machine off when I sleep or go out... but at work I leave it running |
| 23:13.58 | dankolb | I turn my work machine off at weekends (well, the workstation, anyway) |
| 23:15.19 | Leeds | mine's got over 200 days uptime :-) |
| 23:16.07 | dankolb | Lucky you :) |
| 23:16.47 | Leeds | ooh! they're taking applications for Big Brother 2003 :-) |
| 23:17.02 | dankolb | Are you going to apply? |
| 23:17.14 | Leeds | um, no |
| 23:17.32 | dankolb | Up 199 days, 8:53 (server.eco.li) |
| 23:17.58 | dankolb | Heh. A #gllug Big Brother :) |
| 23:18.05 | Leeds | mine is something like 219 days |
| 23:19.47 | dankolb | Uptime wars are a bit silly, anyway |
| 23:19.57 | dankolb | We know that non-Windows systems tend to just work |
| 23:21.14 | Leeds | true |
| 23:21.40 | dankolb | And, actually, our Win2000 systems also just work |
| 23:39.06 | dankolb | How much of an effort is it worth going to, to get a Sun Ultra-5, -10, or -20? |
| 23:39.30 | dankolb | There's some that are going free in Oxford, but I won't be able to pick them up until next year |
| 23:42.16 | Leeds | it's worth it... |
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| 23:42.38 | CyrilB | hi |
| 23:42.40 | Leeds | 10s and 20s are decent machines - if there are any spares, I'd go for one or two :-) |
| 23:42.49 | dankolb | What about SparcStations? |
| 23:42.57 | Leeds | dunno - they're older |
| 23:43.17 | dankolb | Oh. Sparc10, Sparc20, and Sparc5s |
| 23:43.31 | Leeds | I don't really know Sun kit all that well, but we use Ultra 10s (and we're using Ultra 5s on this course) |
| 23:43.42 | dankolb | Ah |
| 23:43.51 | dankolb | Let me know if Sun are getting rid of anything ;-) |
| 23:45.02 | irvined | dankolb: i can pick them up and deliver them for you if you want |
| 23:45.07 | Leeds | not bloody likely |
| 23:45.08 | irvined | im bound to be going south sometime this week or next |
| 23:45.31 | dankolb | irvined: Would you? |
| 23:46.39 | dankolb | I think they're at Comlab |
| 23:49.19 | dankolb | Hm. Apparently it'll be best to wait with them, anyway. They weren't offered widely yet - only to Uni departments |
| 23:49.25 | Leeds | From mplayerhq.hu today: "Yes, now even MPlayer can play Windows Media Video 9 (WMV9) and WMA9 files. Get the CVS and fire it. I'm going to sleep." |
| 23:49.34 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:50.19 | irvined | dankolb: yeah |
| 23:50.31 | irvined | dankolb: i pass it quite often i dont mind as long as you make sure you know where im going heh |
| 23:51.14 | irvined | dankolb: any spare? hehe, i've got an ipc and would like newer ones |
| 23:51.17 | dankolb | Ah right. |
| 23:51.29 | irvined | oh and i can get about 10 or so 17" sun monitors if you need any |
| 23:51.33 | irvined | going spare |
| 23:52.07 | dankolb | When they're offered to a wider audience, I'll let you know (if I know about them) - at the moment, it's apparently safest to not say anything, as they've only been offered to departments |
| 23:52.21 | dankolb | Hm. I could do with a Sun monitor. I have a huge one that doesn't work |
| 23:52.33 | irvined | ahh ok, let me know if you want me to pick them up for you though, once i know a rough schedule its easy for me to drop them off. |
| 23:52.53 | dankolb | Sure :) |
| 23:52.53 | irvined | heh me too, i've got a massive one with a broken red colour gun thingy, its very green, but good for text |
| 23:53.04 | irvined | but its a desk crusher lol |
| 23:53.07 | dankolb | ah. No. Mine doesn't even turn on |
| 23:53.09 | irvined | my desk sags in the middle. |
| 23:53.19 | dankolb | I haven't looked yet - it could just be a fuse |
| 23:55.40 | Leeds | I've got a top quality 21 inch Sun monitor :-) |
| 23:55.51 | dankolb | Can I have it? |
| 23:56.02 | Leeds | nope... I'm using it |
| 23:56.06 | dankolb | Bugger. |
| 23:56.13 | dankolb | I'll swap it for 8 monitors |
| 23:56.38 | Leeds | nah... I like it... and it's not mine, anyway... it belongs to Sun :-) |
| 23:57.08 | dankolb | Break it, get them to throw it away, take it home, fix it... |
| 23:57.35 | Leeds | um, no |
| 23:58.11 | dankolb | (like make some use out of it, rather than use it as a power-sucker) |
| 23:59.05 | dankolb | That's doing more than mine i |
| 23:59.06 | dankolb | *is |
