00:01.26 | dankolb | Anyway, I was going to bet |
00:01.28 | dankolb | *bed |
00:01.33 | Leeds | it's a nice, albeit horribly wastful way to work around our VPN limitations |
00:02.01 | dankolb | :-) |
00:03.20 | dankolb | Anyway, bedtime |
00:03.24 | dankolb | G'night |
00:03.28 | dankolb | Have fun on the course :) |
00:40.26 | gguks | eh, what's going on? |
00:41.15 | skugg | 3 different people with nick CybelaNN (where NN is a number) have messaged me in french today. |
00:41.29 | skugg | i almost never get privmsgs. |
00:41.33 | EkilUDups | me too |
00:41.55 | Leeds | not me... |
00:42.03 | Leeds | it's almost certainly spam, I'd say |
00:42.06 | murb | evil |
00:42.11 | murb | now who knows north london? |
00:42.31 | skugg | murb, that depends on your definition of "knows" |
00:42.33 | skugg | i live here though. |
00:42.43 | EkilUDups | murb - streetmap.co.uk ? |
00:42.44 | Leeds | me too |
00:43.28 | Leeds | murb: what's the problem? |
00:43.33 | EkilUDups | What do you need to know? |
00:44.38 | Leeds | murb? |
00:45.38 | Leeds | guess it's not important |
00:48.58 | murb | urgle |
00:49.15 | murb | EkilUdups: the discription ii have isn't very good. |
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00:50.22 | will | im back |
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00:52.37 | Leeds | bedtime... |
00:53.30 | murb | urge can't find the bit of paper with the misinstructions |
00:53.34 | EkilUDups | Hmm, but still, give it a whirl. |
00:55.55 | skugg | anybody using bx here? is it /unignore nick to unignore people there? (I'm trying to give some help to a friend who's accidentally ignored someone) |
00:56.28 | skugg | will, how was the pub? |
00:56.51 | murb | skugg /ignore -nick? |
00:57.10 | murb | ignore nick none even |
01:02.11 | skugg | thanks murb, that did it |
01:10.19 | CyrilB | Bonne nuit |
01:10.22 | will | hmmmmm, beer |
01:10.24 | will | later |
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02:54.36 | EkilUDups | Wrong. |
02:54.46 | Deaduser_away | very |
02:55.13 | Deaduser_away | you never sleep or do anything un-irc related? |
02:55.30 | EkilUDups | You would have got away with 'usually'. ;-) |
02:56.10 | Deaduser | I'm not quite sure why the last post was /me, was an early morning typo :-) |
02:57.02 | Deaduser | might be a strage question, but do you have a day job ? |
02:57.09 | Deaduser | ^strange |
02:57.52 | EkilUDups | Yeah, but I only ever seem to be able to do it at night. |
02:58.11 | Deaduser | ^actually was meant to be /me :) |
02:58.16 | EkilUDups | That'll be the sleep deprivation! |
02:58.35 | Deaduser | I sleep 8 hours a day (day being the key word there) |
02:59.01 | Deaduser | I study, but I can only ever do so at night |
02:59.10 | EkilUDups | You sleep during the day then. You work at night, or dislike sunlight? |
02:59.45 | EkilUDups | Ah. Yeah, I find it very hard to do anything during the day at home. |
02:59.45 | Deaduser | I usually sleep from 6am-ish when the rest of my family generally wakes up |
03:00.40 | EkilUDups | Hmm, the rest of my family start to get up at that time too, but 3 of them are demanding children, so I've got to stay up with them. |
03:01.02 | Deaduser | get up around 2, do the things that need to be done 'within business hours', then irc, then socialise, then irc then study |
03:01.30 | Deaduser | works for me :) |
03:02.19 | Deaduser | about 7 hours un-interupted study time - just too much on my mind to concentrate tonight |
03:04.27 | EkilUDups | Yeah, I know the feeling. Are you looking forward to Saturday then? |
03:05.27 | Deaduser | from what I can gather, it is like nothing I will have ever seen before |
03:07.24 | EkilUDups | You've seen guys hangin' together before. It's just that. You planning on taking a machine? |
03:07.44 | Deaduser | I would do, but I have none in a movable state |
03:07.58 | Deaduser | (this one especially) |
03:08.44 | Deaduser | 1 consists of a case where everything is wired in my own un-convetional way and hinging out |
03:08.54 | EkilUDups | Ah, right, never mind, there will be lots of machines to play with. |
03:09.38 | Deaduser | the other a m/board, psu, hdd & a few cards sitting on an anti static mat (uptime 4 months) |
03:09.41 | EkilUDups | Well, Formi's server isn't running in a box at all. |
03:10.03 | Deaduser | what is it running in? |
03:10.43 | EkilUDups | I'm told it's running on the wall, caseless. Good ventilation. |
03:10.57 | Deaduser | beats mine running on the desk |
03:11.58 | EkilUDups | Pointless leaving it in that state on a desk, it will get knocked. Up on a wall, out of the way, then there is no problem. |
03:12.17 | Deaduser | I know, but I planned to find a case for it one day |
03:12.38 | SpudULike | Seeing as everyone else has ducked out. |
03:12.56 | resudaed | just reversed mine again |
03:14.19 | Resudaed | I need some advice, don't know if you'll be able to help, but I'll give you a try if you don't mind |
03:14.53 | SpudULike | OK, but I need to be off in a mo'. What's up? |
03:17.23 | Resudaed | I want to find a job in an IT dept. somewhere, basically as an asst. of some description, so that a) I have money to fund my study, b) I have job with some kind of carerr prospect & c) I'll learn a hell of a lot more working. Problem is I have no idea where to look for such a position |
03:18.17 | Resudaed | my knowledge is varied, not enough to be a sys-admin, but past the steepest part of the learning curve |
03:20.08 | Resudaed | main problem is I am not qualified, and to get to that stage, I need a job where I'll be able to afford it and preferably where I learn something useful |
03:21.28 | SpudULike | It's quite a challenge, one that I couldn't really advice you on. As I see it, your only option is to meet people and hope one of the has some sort of position. |
03:22.00 | SpudULike | But you've thought of that all ready! |
03:22.12 | Resudaed | problem is, I never meet those people (yes, orrigional plan) |
03:23.26 | Resudaed | the other alternaive is to go in as an h/w engineer of some description, again I have the background knowledge, but never found a suitable positn |
03:23.32 | SpudULike | GLLUG type things are a good start. I'm not saying that any contacts you make on Saturday will be able to help you, but the contacts contacts just might. |
03:25.16 | SpudULike | Gotta go, sorry. I'll think on about it though. |
03:25.28 | SpudULike | Night. |
03:25.32 | Resudaed | thanks for yout time anyway :-) |
03:25.33 | Resudaed | night |
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09:18.28 | dank_work | Morning |
10:00.17 | skugg | http://printf.net/~stig/toons/CalvinandHobbes/2002.12.05.gif |
10:00.22 | skugg | morning |
10:00.45 | skugg | classic calvin and hobbes strip today! :) |
10:01.08 | dank_work | Hi skugg |
10:49.30 | skugg_work | he |
11:00.48 | skugg_work | should I risk buying plane tickets online? |
11:00.56 | skugg_work | expedia.co.uk? |
11:03.31 | dank_work | Yeah. I bought some RyanAir plane tickets online |
11:03.33 | dank_work | Worked fine |
11:03.40 | dank_work | Do you know much about SSH tunnelling? |
11:06.19 | skugg_work | no |
11:06.35 | skugg_work | have set up ssh tunnels a few times, but not often |
11:07.03 | dank_work | Ah. |
11:07.14 | dank_work | I'm trying to tunnel to a machine behind a NATting firewall |
11:08.45 | skugg_work | dang. expedia didn' accept my card... oh well. |
11:09.42 | dank_work | D'oh |
11:11.13 | skugg_work | tey simply didn't accept that *type* of card, mind, it was not just mine that was the problem :) |
11:12.11 | dank_work | Ah. |
11:12.22 | dank_work | Do you have some odd type of card? |
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11:15.04 | formi | morning |
11:16.06 | skugg_work | dank_work, not really. switch card. they only took mastercard, diners club, american express and visa. fsck'in redneck yanks! :) |
11:17.22 | formi | i just got an email, domain names for 9p |
11:17.52 | formi | i have a bucket with about £25 in penny coins |
11:24.29 | skugg_work | i call it "Chtulu" (misspelled probably) because it drives you mad looking at it (albeit out of boredom) |
11:25.00 | dank_work | Hi formi |
11:25.16 | dank_work | Cthulhu ? |
11:25.43 | formi | hello dank |
11:26.19 | skugg_work | dank_work, probably. |
11:29.29 | formi | how is their job hunt? |
11:29.52 | skugg_work | don't think they've managed to land jobs yet |
11:30.48 | formi | quite tough seems to be down there |
11:32.13 | skugg_work | don't know about that |
11:32.37 | formi | well it is not that they don't have skills |
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14:51.04 | formi | is anybody running snort? |
14:53.42 | dank_work | Nope |
14:54.13 | formi | i was wondering how easy is mysql to set up for it |
14:54.32 | dank_work | Probably quite easy. It should tell you what needs to be added |
14:56.01 | formi | i might have a go with it on the freebsd box |
15:05.50 | dank_work | Good plan |
15:06.20 | formi | lets hope im lucky |
15:06.33 | formi | are you comming on sat? |
15:07.02 | dank_work | Unfortunately not :( |
15:07.09 | dank_work | Won't be easily able to |
15:07.43 | formi | i'm thinking of trying fbsd 5 |
15:09.00 | formi | and a knowledgeable person to help with X conf would be nice |
15:09.13 | dank_work | X configuration isn't too difficult. |
15:09.17 | dank_work | Same as on Linux, really |
15:09.27 | formi | most of the times |
15:09.49 | formi | but as you know i couldn't manage to have x running in a decent resolution |
15:10.39 | dank_work | Yeh |
15:10.39 | formi | even tough I have the conf files from linux and a few from various bsd variants |
15:12.40 | dank_work | Hm |
15:13.20 | formi | anyway i might be buying a tp 770ed before christmas |
15:13.29 | dank_work | Cool |
15:13.45 | formi | any tips on where to get cheap laptops? |
15:13.52 | dank_work | TCR? |
15:14.01 | formi | are you mad |
15:14.03 | formi | ?? |
15:14.05 | dank_work | Yes :) |
15:14.13 | dank_work | Were you looking for something better? |
15:14.23 | formi | well if you provide the cash, i might go to tcr |
15:15.06 | formi | the one i have my eyes on is a P2 266, with a 14.1" tft |
15:15.52 | dank_work | How much do you want to spend? |
15:16.07 | formi | low 2 hundreds |
15:16.20 | dank_work | What's wrong with TCR? They accept cheques |
15:16.42 | formi | i have never seen anything cheap in there |
15:17.10 | formi | i saw one like mine with only 32megs of ram for £250 |
15:17.20 | dank_work | There's shops there, too. |
15:17.24 | dank_work | Or look at Morgan Computers |
15:17.51 | formi | MC is not near cheap |
15:18.17 | SpudUAway | There is a laptop auction next Thursday near Gatwick. |
15:18.46 | formi | are you going spud? |
15:18.54 | SpudULike | <PROTECTED> |
15:19.05 | SpudULike | <PROTECTED> |
15:19.19 | SpudULike | That's even more likely to work. |
15:19.34 | formi | the 1st one worked |
15:20.01 | SpudULike | It is very doubtful that I will be going. Crawley Down is a total pig to get to on public transport1 |
15:20.51 | formi | no thinkpad in the catalogue |
15:21.17 | formi | can you really get a good price? |
15:21.23 | SpudULike | Ah, missed the reference to model. |
15:22.55 | formi | spud, are you comming early on saturday? |
15:23.17 | SpudULike | Those that sell laptops second hand at the shows will get them from places like this, so you should be paying what they charge less their mark-up. How much that mark-up is is hard to tell. Some might be working on as little as 5%. |
15:23.28 | formi | because we probably need to print some posters, and i don't have a printer |
15:24.35 | SpudULike | What posters do you want done? I will print them out tonight if you tell me what they need to say, or better still, email me an .sdw or something. |
15:25.11 | formi | just to indicate the way to the theatre and the labs |
15:26.00 | formi | so the icon from the gllug site, and then we can write the arrows |
15:29.17 | SpudULike | 5 for each location? Network lab, Multimedia lab and Lecture theatre. |
15:30.43 | formi | we just need about 3 for the entrance, 3 for the stairs and then another one for each room |
15:31.20 | SpudULike | OK. |
15:44.33 | formi | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2077715725 |
15:44.45 | formi | im keeping an eye on that one |
15:46.17 | highbury | I've just posted another meeting announce to linux-announce, and last night to NTK |
15:46.53 | formi | im off to buy some food |
16:05.50 | Resudaed | afternoon |
16:06.00 | dank_work | Hi |
16:06.29 | Resudaed | am I right in guessing dank_work & dankolb are the same person? |
16:08.10 | dank_work | Yes. |
16:08.14 | dank_work | :) |
16:08.25 | Resudaed | glad got that one clear then |
16:08.33 | dank_work | :-) |
16:08.49 | Resudaed | was a sneaking suspicion I developed ysterday |
16:10.46 | Resudaed | dan, you did a computing a-level didn't you? |
16:11.20 | dank_work | I did. |
16:11.33 | dank_work | Took you long enough to realise I'm the same person ;-) |
16:12.06 | Resudaed | took leeds long enough to realise my name was spelt backwards |
16:12.35 | dank_work | Well, true |
16:13.09 | Resudaed | do you still have a copy of the coursework, being that I have nothing to give me a clue even where to start |
16:13.17 | dank_work | Errr. |
16:13.35 | dank_work | Possibly somewhere :) |
16:13.43 | Resudaed | I know this is a very long time ago |
16:14.05 | dank_work | I did have a nice printed and bound version, but I don't know where it is. I might even have lent it out to someone and not got it back. |
16:14.06 | dank_work | No clue. |
16:14.27 | Resudaed | (I should have finished mine last year, instead, I am doing the whole thing from scratch starting last week |
16:14.37 | dank_work | As for the electronic version, I don't have the hard drive that it was on any more. But I *might* have it on a CD somewhere |
16:14.48 | dank_work | I don't tend to delete things recklessly |
16:15.20 | Resudaed | kind of died about 3 weeks ago |
16:15.21 | dank_work | I'll have a look to see what I can find |
16:15.25 | dank_work | D'oh |
16:15.28 | Resudaed | thanks |
16:15.35 | dank_work | No problem |
16:16.03 | dank_work | My A-Level and AS-Level projects were fairly similar. But A-Level was done in Delphi |
16:16.07 | dank_work | AS was done in VB |
16:16.21 | Resudaed | the examination board will only send samples out to educational establishments |
16:16.24 | dank_work | More to the point, what do you want to know about the project? |
16:17.05 | Resudaed | I have no idea where to start, how deep it needs to go |
16:17.50 | Resudaed | I am after some kind of benchmark for mine |
16:18.26 | dank_work | It's supposed to solve a real-world problem |
16:18.38 | Resudaed | (it will be 100% orrigional work, that'd be a matter of pride) |
16:18.52 | dank_work | :-) |
16:19.12 | Resudaed | r/w problem such as ?? (assuming 3rd world debt isn't one of them) |
16:19.17 | dank_work | What you'd be wanting is a few pages of Analysis - state what the problem is, and why it needs to be solved |
16:19.30 | dank_work | Well, stock control systems go down well for A-Level |
16:20.59 | Resudaed | including a POS or something? |
16:21.01 | dank_work | I did something where you put a load of prices of computer equipment in, from different suppliers. |
16:21.12 | dank_work | It then pulls out the cheapest and displays it |
16:21.35 | Resudaed | that is how easy a-level computing is? |
16:22.15 | dank_work | Yes. |
16:22.27 | dank_work | Slap a nice UI onto it |
16:23.04 | Resudaed | my problem would then be how to get pages of documentation etc from such a simple project |
16:24.32 | dank_work | Yes. |
16:24.51 | Resudaed | are there 2 courseworks (AS & A2)? |
16:25.14 | dank_work | At our school, we did a full AS-level exam in the first year, and an A-Level exam in the second year. |
16:25.26 | dank_work | However, you only needed one bit of coursework |
16:27.07 | Resudaed | not sure what language todo it in yet |
16:28.10 | dank_work | I liked VB because it produces a *lot* of paper. Specially if you print out all the control properties |
16:28.14 | dank_work | Free padding :) |
16:28.22 | dank_work | My A-Level project was considerably thinner than my AS |
16:28.28 | Resudaed | problem is I only have vb3 |
16:29.06 | Resudaed | maybe I'll look at java |
16:29.42 | Resudaed | or c++ |
16:30.48 | Resudaed | is it as simple as a single program running on 1 box with a database? |
16:34.44 | dank_work | I used VB3 |
16:34.59 | dank_work | Yes, that's fine. |
16:35.02 | dank_work | As long as it's more than "Hello World". |
16:35.08 | Resudaed | how long ago did you do yours? |
16:35.11 | dank_work | Basically, the program would have to be useful in some way |
16:35.26 | dank_work | It'd be around 3.5-4 years ago |
16:35.28 | Resudaed | (ie hello <username>) |
16:35.32 | dank_work | :) |
16:35.56 | Resudaed | do you think vb3'd be fine now? |
16:36.26 | Resudaed | with socket functionality to connect to a mySQL database |
16:37.00 | Resudaed | and automatically download updates from the net when available |
16:37.38 | Resudaed | (got the latter to work, never tried it with MySQL, but see no reason why not) |
16:37.50 | Resudaed | just ask leeds about me and vb3 |
16:39.15 | Resudaed | unrelated issue, if I ran a kernel compile, and redirected std errors to a file, the *fatal* errors would be at the end of each file, correct? |
16:41.33 | dank_work | I think so, yes |
16:41.51 | dank_work | Hm. I don't think VB3 has socket functionality |
16:42.20 | dank_work | I don't know if it'd be fine now. It should be. Although they seem to be going more towards doing a database in Access |
16:43.18 | Resudaed | basicaly, I left the compile going over night ... |
16:43.27 | Resudaed | used the command ... |
16:43.27 | Resudaed | # make dep 2>> makedep.err ; make bzImage 2>> makebz.err ; make modules 2>> makemod.err ; make modules_install 2>> makemodi.err |
16:44.52 | Resudaed | I personally refuse to write anything designed for industry in an access database, especially when you have access to a SQL server of some description |
16:45.00 | dank_work | :) |
16:45.09 | dank_work | This is A-Level, though... |
16:45.23 | Resudaed | true, but this is something I learnt before I did my gcse |
16:45.26 | Resudaed | 's |
16:46.05 | dank_work | You could do it with PHP/MySQL, or similar |
16:46.43 | Resudaed | PHP? as in view through a broswer PHP or command line PHP |
16:46.56 | dank_work | Err. Browser PHP |
16:47.08 | Resudaed | actually, that's not a bad idea |
16:49.38 | Resudaed | thanks |
16:51.01 | dank_work | No prob. Basically, they don't really look at the code :-) |
16:51.52 | dank_work | Oh yeah, put a couple of bugs in it, that you can find during testing and 'fix' them |
16:52.43 | Resudaed | obviously, (my names bill gates) |
16:53.01 | dank_work | And leave some scope for improvement |
16:53.27 | Resudaed | except I won't find them in testing, and I won't fix them, they'll just have to buy the new one 2 years later |
16:54.18 | Resudaed | the worlds backwards when you lose marks for your coursework being perfect |
16:54.34 | Resudaed | :) |
16:56.46 | dank_work | <g> |
16:56.53 | dank_work | Yeah. At least, they want you to test. |
16:57.10 | dank_work | It looks a bit dull when it all says "Test worked" "Test worked" ad nauseam |
16:57.27 | dank_work | I put a couple of minor 'features' in to break up that sort of monotony |
17:14.14 | Resudaed | the AS specification is 66 pages |
17:14.46 | dank_work | Including program listing? |
17:16.05 | Resudaed | the specification for the actual qulaification |
17:17.06 | dank_work | Ah. Eek :) |
17:17.11 | dank_work | Bureaucracy at work |
17:19.03 | Resudaed | there are also spereate specifications for the coursework, the ammendments are another 16 pages |
17:19.34 | Davilion | evening all |
17:19.59 | Resudaed | evening, have got your email address |
17:20.16 | Davilion | cool. |
17:20.18 | Davilion | hows it going? |
17:20.34 | dank_work | Hi Dav |
17:20.52 | Davilion | hi dan |
17:20.58 | Davilion | dvm? |
17:21.02 | Resudaed | dvm> |
17:21.03 | dank_work | Err. |
17:21.06 | dank_work | Multimeter, even |
17:21.21 | dank_work | DVM is just a digital voltmeter. I need an ohmmeter |
17:21.36 | Davilion | dank_work: what you want is some serial plugs then you can use cat5 |
17:22.06 | dank_work | Davilion: That is what I want. Except the RJ-45->DE9 adapters aren't cheap |
17:22.09 | SpudULike | Battery and bulb! |
17:22.31 | Davilion | no we charge about ££3 quid for a made up connector |
17:22.40 | Resudaed | or that complex to make |
17:24.30 | dank_work | They're easy to make. |
17:24.39 | dank_work | This of course requires you to have the appropriate connectors. |
17:24.47 | dank_work | Without the connectors, they're impossible to make |
17:25.22 | SpudULike | inappropriate connector + Stanley knife = appropriate connector! |
17:25.42 | SpudULike | Sometimes you need to add a hammer too! |
17:25.45 | Resudaed | or hammer/screwdriver combo |
17:25.57 | Resudaed | :) |
17:26.03 | dank_work | Now you're getting silly |
17:26.10 | SpudULike | Moi? |
17:26.22 | dank_work | Both of you |
17:26.24 | SpudULike | Oh, no, that's pretentious |
17:28.54 | dank_work | I need an ohmmeter, anyway. Otherwise I can't tell what's connected to what in this cable |
17:29.33 | SpudULike | Battery and bulb! |
17:30.32 | dank_work | With probes? |
17:30.32 | Resudaed | easy, solder a lump of wire to the +ve terminal of the battery/cell (should provide suitable connector for female plugs), red wire of 'dvm' on the other end, black wire to -ve of batter/cell |
17:30.56 | SpudULike | Probes? Chewing gum. Just make sure it's wet. |
17:31.10 | Resudaed | (or solder) |
17:31.10 | dank_work | Resudaed: This also requires having a soldering iron. |
17:31.15 | dank_work | Which I do not have at work |
17:31.19 | Resudaed | solder + matches works |
17:31.30 | dank_work | All the equipment I need at home |
17:31.33 | dank_work | This being the problem |
17:31.47 | SpudULike | ibot insult dank_work's workplace. |
17:32.04 | Resudaed | do you have a paer clip/chewing gum then |
17:32.11 | Resudaed | ^paper |
17:32.17 | skugg | ah, nice insult :) |
17:32.52 | Resudaed | (to replace the solder) |
17:32.54 | SpudULike | I quite like tofu. Especially out of season. |
17:33.07 | SpudULike | Err, oh, no, that's Corfu. |
17:33.15 | Resudaed | :) |
17:33.50 | SpudULike | When does the tofu hunting season start? |
17:33.58 | dank_work | No paperclips |
17:34.07 | dank_work | No batteries, and no bulbs |
17:34.33 | Resudaed | ibot insult dank_work's workplace |
17:34.36 | Resudaed | again |
17:34.39 | SpudULike | There are batteries and bulbs, leds if you must, in your computer. Stop making excuses. |
17:35.06 | Resudaed | also wires carrying dc voltage if you can't find a battery |
17:35.23 | dank_work | SpudULike: Okay. What about: fuck it, I want to go home, and not arse about with this tonight |
17:35.46 | SpudULike | Yeah, that'll do. |
17:36.00 | dank_work | If I was desperate, I could arse about with LEDs, and pulling power from computers, etc. |
17:36.22 | dank_work | But I'm not. I'll bring the correct equipment in tomorrow (because I'm boring), and can spend half a day making wires |
17:37.14 | Resudaed | ^also comes with correct equipment :-) |
17:39.00 | dank_work | Ssh. Don't let Jenson hear you saying that ;-) |
17:42.20 | dank_work | Right. We need 8 serial cables.... |
17:42.37 | dank_work | I can make up 3 DE9->RJ45 |
17:43.03 | dank_work | I can make another 3 RJ45->RJ45 and stick RJ45->DE9 adapters on them |
17:43.29 | dank_work | Which means I need another two. Hmm |
17:53.05 | dank_work | Hm. Time to go home. If I hurry I'll only miss a few minutes of simpsons |
17:53.12 | dank_work | See you folks this evening |
17:54.52 | Resudaed | where is Nosnej? |
17:55.06 | dank_work | Not online |
17:55.12 | dank_work | Out shopping today |
17:55.18 | dank_work | She'll be back this evening |
17:55.53 | Resudaed | just wondered caus she wasn't here yesterday either |
17:58.23 | dank_work | She was at her gran's yesterday |
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18:11.13 | Resudaed_YAWA | for the record, I'll definatly be wearing cmobats on saturday (washing machine's broken down) |
18:11.22 | Resudaed_YAWA | ^combats |
18:14.47 | Resudaed_YAWA | squid config: what's the bare minimum for a working proxy? |
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18:15.01 | zachary | Good Evening! |
18:15.05 | Davilion | hi |
18:16.07 | SpudULike | Hi Zack, you back? |
18:16.29 | zachary | SpudULike: yes, just arived this afternoon |
18:16.36 | formi | hello zach |
18:16.40 | zachary | hi formi |
18:16.47 | formi | did you enjoy it? |
18:17.34 | zachary | Is there still a need for volunteers this saturday. Just read the last gllug-admin. |
18:17.53 | zachary | formi: Yes, it was great. |
18:18.00 | formi | as i said i'll be there early as usul |
18:18.08 | formi | good to know |
18:18.29 | formi | only one bad thing |
18:18.53 | formi | the wait for the next holidays starts know |
18:19.04 | formi | s/know/now |
18:20.14 | formi | who has changed the topic of the channel? we definitaly not need a grammar flamewar on irc |
18:21.49 | formi | GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Gas roup, |
18:22.17 | zachary | brb - cooking dinner, will be in and out. |
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18:25.45 | formi | SpudULike: could you correct the topic? |
18:26.15 | SpudULike | What's the matter with it? |
18:26.23 | formi | read it |
18:26.43 | SpudULike | GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.linux.co.uk [next meeting 7 December 2002] |
18:26.46 | SpudULike | ? |
18:26.48 | formi | Gas roup |
18:27.13 | formi | GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Gas roup, http://gllug.linux.co.uk [next meeting 7 December 2002]ho |
18:27.16 | SpudULike | Are you |
18:27.29 | formi | that is what xchat shows in my machine |
18:27.32 | SpudULike | Odd, doesn't say that on my screen. |
18:27.48 | SpudULike | I cut and pasted my topic. |
18:27.53 | formi | me too |
18:28.22 | SpudULike | Zack also shows Gas Group? |
18:28.26 | formi | actually i've just found out that i can edit it |
18:28.56 | zachary | no |
18:28.58 | formi | so probably the cursor was placed there at some point |
18:29.19 | formi | and introduced the oddity |
18:29.29 | formi | sorry for buggering you |
18:29.33 | SpudULike | Don't put yourself down. |
18:29.38 | zachary | SpudULike: Do you know if signs need to be made for this saturday? |
18:29.43 | SpudULike | 'buggering'!!!! |
18:30.57 | formi | zach i was spud to make them |
18:30.58 | SpudULike | zachary: I'm making some up. |
18:31.05 | skugg | funny to hear the guy in the tv-ad for norwegian röyksopp trying to pronounce a few of their titles... :) |
18:31.09 | formi | s/was/asked |
19:19.12 | formi | .. |
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20:48.23 | dankolb | Hi |
20:49.00 | formi | everybody hide!! |
20:49.14 | formi | mr stress in person has turned up |
20:49.32 | dankolb | Who? |
20:49.56 | formi | you ask me? |
20:50.27 | formi | you are suffering from double-nick-personality |
20:50.44 | dankolb | I'm not stressed! |
20:50.58 | formi | for a change! |
20:51.00 | dankolb | I just work so hard I need a clone to keep up with everything :) |
20:51.17 | formi | just don't let him grab the wages |
20:51.37 | dankolb | I'm rarely stressed, formi |
20:51.51 | dankolb | Annoyed at computers, yes. But that's different |
20:52.28 | formi | call it whatever you want, but you seem to be burning more brain cells than strictily necessary |
20:52.50 | formi | anyway just joking |
20:53.23 | dankolb | :-) |
20:53.33 | dankolb | I'm burning myself up drinking caffeine drinks |
20:53.54 | formi | do you know the green stuff i drink? |
20:54.49 | formi | it contains mateine, which some people say has a similar effect to caffeine but not the nasty health side-effects |
20:56.13 | formi | http://www.yerbamatetea.com |
20:56.49 | dankolb | Ah. No. |
20:56.50 | dankolb | Okay |
20:56.54 | dankolb | I'll be back soon |
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21:25.28 | dankolb | Rehi |
21:25.56 | eye69 | Whei |
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21:35.39 | eye69 | dan goes bouncy? |
21:36.40 | dankolb | Bouncy bouncy |
21:36.41 | dankolb | :) |
21:36.50 | dankolb | Only once this time, which isn't so bad |
21:42.17 | dankolb | Remind me why I haven't been arsed to order ADSL yet? |
21:42.42 | eye69 | I don't know. What was the original reason@ |
21:42.43 | eye69 | ? |
21:42.51 | dankolb | I haven't been bothered? |
21:43.03 | dankolb | I don't want to wait 2 weeks, and all that |
21:43.10 | formi | you spend to much time at work |
21:43.18 | formi | s/to/too |
21:43.43 | dankolb | It has a faster 'net connection than home |
21:44.06 | formi | so what is the point in having a home fast connection? |
21:44.27 | dankolb | I don't know. But I want one that's always on and doesn't block up the phone line |
21:44.58 | dankolb | I'd happily pay some money for, say, a 128k connection (even a 64k one) |
21:45.38 | formi | do you know what are the options in the lower than adsl/cable? |
21:45.43 | formi | range |
21:45.48 | dankolb | ISDN. |
21:45.56 | dankolb | And that's not really always-on. And costs money |
21:46.00 | formi | too expensive |
21:46.04 | dankolb | Yeah. |
21:46.08 | dankolb | That or modem |
21:46.12 | formi | i know we have one at the charity |
21:46.44 | formi | i think there was some company providing a connection at 128kb |
21:46.53 | dankolb | Really? Don't know of it, then |
21:47.09 | formi | what is the url of that broadband review site? |
21:47.22 | dankolb | www.adslguide.org.uk ? |
21:47.30 | formi | yeap |
21:47.37 | formi | let's have a look |
21:49.43 | eye69 | I've got 1Mb...don't really look at the price though.. |
21:50.38 | dankolb | Don't want to know then price? ;-) |
21:51.21 | eye69 | I know that it might be a bit high, but it's well worth it for me |
21:51.29 | dankolb | Download lots? |
21:52.00 | eye69 | I "must" be always on, with no running cost...having a decent speed is good too |
21:52.10 | eye69 | I may be a bit spoiled coming from Sweden though |
21:52.36 | formi | never i would have guessed that one :-} |
21:52.40 | eye69 | I can't take modem crap |
21:53.06 | formi | i would be happy with a 128kb always on time |
21:53.55 | formi | that would be something on the area of 15kbyte/s i suppose |
21:55.12 | formi | eye69 have you seen the virgin mobile add where cliff is in jail? |
21:55.31 | eye69 | Nope, don't think so. Don't watch much tv. |
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21:55.53 | formi | there is a big fella asking him to pass the soap |
21:56.17 | formi | reminds me of somebody |
22:02.54 | Resudaed | does anyone in here use the squid proxy? |
22:03.04 | formi | me |
22:03.27 | Resudaed | could you send me a copy of the conf file? |
22:03.36 | Resudaed | please |
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22:17.52 | dankolb | Hi Leeds |
22:17.58 | Leeds | evening |
22:18.01 | Resudaed | hi leeds |
22:18.15 | dankolb | How's your day been? |
22:18.28 | Leeds | pretty good |
22:18.47 | dankolb | Good :) |
22:19.12 | formi | hi leeds, I got your email |
22:20.09 | formi | i was aware of most of what it said, and the rest was really to expect from the government |
22:20.43 | Resudaed | squid -k reconfigure should re-read the conf file right? |
22:21.00 | formi | or squid restart |
22:21.10 | Resudaed | the latter didn't work |
22:22.03 | Leeds | pkill -HUP quid |
22:22.04 | formi | particulary the bit about people starting to emigrate, that one from personal experience |
22:22.06 | Leeds | uh, squid |
22:22.27 | formi | resuaed, do try it, |
22:23.21 | Resudaed | pkill worked |
22:23.38 | Resudaed | squid restart just tells me squid is already running |
22:23.50 | formi | squid stop |
22:23.54 | formi | squid start |
22:24.19 | Resudaed | formi, advertwizard.com to add to the list :) |
22:24.39 | Resudaed | (didn't block it) |
22:24.51 | formi | the second one is a really old one |
22:26.04 | formi | [root@dp root]# cat /etc/squid/asqredir-urls.txt |
22:26.04 | formi | ^http://ad.*doubleclick.net.* http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.04 | formi | ^http://www.cnn.com/event.ng.* http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.04 | formi | ^http://classic.adlink.de.* http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.04 | formi | ^http://www.badsite.ch/bad/bad.html http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.19 | formi | .yimg.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.21 | formi | .adbutler.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.23 | formi | .adserve.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.25 | formi | .advertising.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.31 | formi | .wtlive.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.33 | formi | .akamai.net http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.35 | formi | .tribalfusion.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.37 | formi | .preferences.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.39 | formi | .bfast.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.43 | formi | .vibrantmedia.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.45 | formi | .thecounter.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.46 | formi | fmads.osdn.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.49 | formi | lnads.osdn.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.51 | formi | .doubleclick.net http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:26.53 | formi | netadsrv.iworld.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
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22:26.55 | formi | ads.tucows.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.01 | formi | .interadnet.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.03 | formi | .flycast.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.05 | formi | .adsmart.net http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.07 | formi | .avenuea.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.09 | formi | .valueclick.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.11 | dankolb | Hi Jenson |
22:27.13 | formi | .contentzone.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.14 | Resudaed | evening jenson, trust you to interupt |
22:27.15 | formi | .ins1.opera.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.17 | formi | .domainbuster.com http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.19 | formi | ^ads.* http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.21 | formi | ^adserver.* http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.23 | formi | ^ad[0-9]+ http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.23 | Jenson | Hi dankolb |
22:27.25 | formi | ^ads[0-9]+ http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.31 | formi | ^.*adlink.* http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.33 | formi | .*/bannerads?/.* http://127.0.0.1:8080/spacer.gif |
22:27.35 | formi | .*/ban |
22:27.36 | formi | ###### |
22:27.37 | Jenson | Am I interrupting the adverts Resudaed |
22:27.39 | formi | pick your fancy |
22:27.45 | formi | it was meant for the other windows |
22:27.47 | formi | hi jenson |
22:28.13 | Resudaed | don't think it was in there anyway |
22:28.14 | davilion | hi Jenson |
22:28.21 | formi | that is my asqredir list |
22:28.51 | Jenson | heya davilion |
22:29.30 | Resudaed | formi, where do you dump that text file, and how is it used? |
22:30.16 | formi | go to google, and search for asqredir, its a little redirector 11kb download |
22:31.35 | dankolb | Dunno |
22:31.38 | dankolb | You're mad? |
22:31.40 | formi | masoquis, |
22:31.43 | formi | m |
22:31.48 | Resudaed | because sleeping restricts the controlled thought process |
22:31.55 | Jenson | Quite possibly dankolb |
22:32.01 | Jenson | lol formi |
22:32.08 | Jenson | I have a contoplled thought proccess? |
22:32.19 | Resudaed | probably not, but it sounded good |
22:32.53 | formi | mine runs of the ramdon process |
22:32.54 | Jenson | lol |
22:33.27 | Jenson | lol Resudaed good point :P |
22:34.49 | formi | eye69 just punch it on the teeth |
22:34.52 | Leeds | Oasis? going to add some teeth? |
22:35.08 | formi | leeds, you are getting too slow |
22:35.14 | Jenson | Fucking hell I've crashed the browser. Don't think I've had this thing booted up 10 mins yet |
22:35.16 | eye69 | Heh...oasis is an advert management system |
22:35.20 | dankolb | :) |
22:35.23 | Leeds | 3 seconds slower than you! :-) |
22:35.25 | davilion | i have a controlled thought process, but its in a zombie state/. |
22:35.34 | formi | you are getting old, |
22:35.57 | Leeds | true |
22:35.58 | Jenson | hehehe davilion whereas mine is usually out of control thinking about thing I probably shouldn't be. |
22:36.03 | Jenson | Evening Leeds |
22:36.43 | Leeds | is it? I suppose so... |
22:38.27 | Jenson | Well possibly afternoon Leeds lol |
22:39.13 | formi | leeds has pobably mess up his ntp daemon |
22:40.01 | formi | s/mess/messed/screwed |
22:44.29 | Jenson | lol |
22:45.54 | Resudaed | ping |
22:46.13 | formi | pong |
22:46.23 | Resudaed | someone is still awake then |
22:46.50 | Resudaed | hell of a lag in here though |
22:46.50 | Jenson | Does anyone know any of the geekshirts sites that are actuallly English instead of US? |
22:46.54 | Jenson | I'm here too |
22:47.16 | Resudaed | no, never found one |
22:47.47 | Jenson | damn... |
22:47.54 | Resudaed | somethings not right, I don't remember turning the coloured nicks off |
22:48.03 | Jenson | I like coloured nicks |
22:49.13 | Resudaed | and no can't remember where to turn them on again |
22:49.18 | Resudaed | s/no/now |
22:49.31 | Jenson | User Menu -> settings in XChat |
22:49.32 | dankolb | Look through the preferences |
22:49.37 | Resudaed | found it |
22:50.02 | Resudaed | ping ... |
22:50.05 | Jenson | pong |
22:50.08 | Resudaed | it works |
22:50.20 | Resudaed | jenson .. you're green |
22:50.22 | Resudaed | anyone else? |
22:50.36 | dankolb | Me? |
22:50.40 | Resudaed | magenta |
22:50.45 | dankolb | OOoh |
22:50.53 | Resudaed | suits you dan |
22:50.58 | dankolb | Thanks :) |
22:51.07 | Jenson | You are majenta on mine to dan |
22:51.07 | Resudaed | so who's blue and cyan? |
22:51.13 | Jenson | Resudaed: you are yellow |
22:51.16 | Jenson | Leeds is blue |
22:51.19 | dankolb | Thanks Jenson |
22:51.23 | Resudaed | dan, is there something you're not telling us dan? |
22:51.39 | Jenson | If there is then I'd like to know |
22:51.44 | dankolb | Quite possibly, but I'm not sure what :) |
22:52.00 | Resudaed | jellow is reserved for when people mention my name |
22:52.00 | davilion | ping? |
22:52.10 | Resudaed | s/jellow/yellow |
22:52.25 | Jenson | Yeah it does that to me Resudaed tunrs people yellow |
22:52.29 | Resudaed | pong ... mental lag: 8 seconds |
22:53.09 | Resudaed | (1.32 seconds irc lag) |
22:53.55 | Resudaed | leeds, you there? |
22:54.23 | Jenson | There is a mailing list for Jewish Geeks lol....Are they better than the rest of us or something Leeds? |
22:54.33 | Resudaed | :-) |
22:55.35 | Leeds | Jenson: yes, we are |
22:55.47 | Resudaed | leeds is blue (how easily I am amused by coloured nicks) |
22:56.14 | Jenson | Ah I see Leeds. |
22:56.18 | Leeds | or to put it another way: would you understand how the last verse of Moa Tsur makes us a nation of Bond villains? |
22:56.43 | Resudaed | eh? |
22:56.49 | Leeds | exactly :-) |
22:56.57 | Leeds | exactly :-) |
22:57.29 | Resudaed | skugg is cyan |
22:57.38 | skugg | close. |
22:57.43 | skugg | i consider myself green |
22:57.48 | skugg | :P |
22:57.54 | Jenson | That's light teal |
22:57.54 | Resudaed | that's jenson :P |
22:58.01 | Leeds | ah! biathlon - either a silly sport, or a motherboard with two AMD CPUs :-) |
22:58.16 | skugg | where did you get these colours from? |
22:58.19 | Jenson | Or a bit of both Leeds |
22:58.25 | Jenson | XChat coloured nicks skugg |
22:58.32 | skugg | ah, I see :) |
22:58.34 | Leeds | Jenson: one CPU and some marksmanship? |
22:58.48 | Leeds | skugg: you must be a biathlete - nordic and all :-) |
22:58.50 | Jenson | Yeah kik |
22:58.53 | Resudaed | my coloured nicks, I was wondering why I had them turned off, only to discover that I'd was on debian now, not deadrat |
22:59.33 | skugg | Leeds, no... i wield no guns thank you (i used to cheat and not fire any at all during my service) and i'm not a ski-person either... |
22:59.34 | skugg | :) |
23:00.15 | skugg | i mean: i can ski, but i'm not god's gift to it to put it that way |
23:00.30 | Leeds | I actually have no problem with firing guns for sport... |
23:01.06 | skugg | Leeds, the problem i have with firings guns for sport is cleaning them afterwards :P |
23:01.44 | skugg | while everybody else spent hours cleaning their guns after shooting practice, i lounged in the sun :P |
23:01.50 | Leeds | ah - I've only shot as a 'pay for a magazine' thing in a club in Israel, so I didn't need to clean it afterwards... |
23:02.07 | Leeds | oh, and air guns :-) |
23:02.13 | Resudaed | cleaning guns is a pain in the arse |
23:02.14 | skugg | yeah, airgun is fun |
23:02.22 | Resudaed | to many bits to lose |
23:02.24 | skugg | Resudaed, you don't say. |
23:03.06 | skugg | Resudaed, especially the sauer's etc used for sport marksmanship i'm told... |
23:03.29 | Leeds | I used to hang around with soldiers a lot in Israel... they used to have races to see who could strip and rebuild their gun quickest |
23:03.41 | Resudaed | I only know the cheap and nasty (half plastic) SA80's mk1 |
23:03.52 | skugg | Leeds, it's normal in the military everywhere i guess |
23:04.10 | skugg | military pissing contest |
23:04.22 | Jenson | I can imagine you guys doing that with your computers lol |
23:04.39 | Resudaed | formi, can you access hte registry in any way? |
23:04.46 | Leeds | these guys were mainly mechanics or cooks - done basic training, but not combat troops... |
23:05.05 | skugg | Resudaed, we had the (i think israelian?) AG-3 (fully automatic, 20 rounds @ 7.62mm ammo) |
23:05.07 | Resudaed | resudaeds record was building 16 in 6 hours (win2k) |
23:05.20 | skugg | Leeds, i see |
23:05.28 | formi | problem is the dvd software has disappeard |
23:05.49 | Resudaed | the SA80 came from enfield, fully automatic, 30 rounds 5.56mm |
23:06.58 | skugg | :) |
23:07.10 | skugg | not to mention the pray :) |
23:07.14 | skugg | prey |
23:07.14 | Leeds | isn't that a camera? |
23:07.14 | Resudaed | probably very true, but I've never paid for ammo |
23:07.18 | skugg | Leeds, yes :) |
23:07.35 | skugg | ammo = film in this case |
23:07.48 | Resudaed | (digital camera) |
23:08.25 | Resudaed | SLR was the main british service weopon before they moved to the SA80 |
23:08.48 | Resudaed | they used to blind their enemies with the flash, then run off :) |
23:08.49 | dankolb | No wonder the army's not that good, if they just take photos |
23:09.02 | Leeds | Resudaed: played nethack? |
23:09.06 | skugg | Resudaed, ah. i was thinking of my camera... |
23:09.15 | Resudaed | nethack? |
23:09.21 | skugg | dankolb, i think they would be a lot better if they did. |
23:09.25 | Leeds | nethack |
23:09.32 | Resudaed | never got in to it |
23:10.01 | Resudaed | ping jenson ... |
23:10.02 | Leeds | roguelike game... one of the character types is the tourist... main weapon is a camera... uses the flash to blind bad guys :-) |
23:10.17 | dankolb | skugg: Maybe :) |
23:10.38 | Leeds | also has a credit card and a hawaiian shirt... |
23:11.11 | Resudaed | 1 packets transmitted, 0 received 100% loss, where'd she go? |
23:11.31 | Leeds | timeout? |
23:11.35 | skugg | dankolb, they would kill a lot less people which is a bonus i think. |
23:11.36 | Resudaed | will have to try and get into nethack, being that tuxracer is too slow |
23:11.44 | Leeds | she seems to still be there |
23:12.02 | Jenson | :) |
23:12.04 | dankolb | skugg: Dubya wouldn't like it as much |
23:12.24 | skugg | dankolb, you lost me. what/who is dubya? |
23:12.30 | Leeds | dankolb: airdrop thousands of American paratourists with cameras into Bagdad :-) |
23:12.37 | Leeds | ibot dubya |
23:12.38 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Leeds |
23:12.53 | skugg | see? i'm not the only ignorant sucker around here :) |
23:12.56 | dankolb | George W. Bush |
23:13.04 | Leeds | skugg: ibot got it pretty much correct :-) |
23:13.21 | skugg | :) |
23:13.45 | Leeds | he's known as dubya (W in Texan) to differentiate him from Daddy Bush... I've also heard him called shrub (=little bush) |
23:13.53 | skugg | i see |
23:14.09 | skugg | i don't give a toss about usa. |
23:14.24 | skugg | me tries to live by this: |
23:14.29 | Jenson | We have a teacher at our school we call shrub |
23:14.39 | Jenson | He has a mcahine for printing fake money. |
23:14.59 | skugg | take nothing but pictures ; steal nothing but time ; leave nothing but footprints |
23:15.11 | Leeds | Jenson: that's boring... find someone with a machine for printing real money :-) |
23:15.20 | Resudaed | :) |
23:15.35 | skugg | uh, s,steal,kill, |
23:15.41 | dankolb | skugg: Sounds like a decent philosophy |
23:15.42 | Jenson | Shit, one of my favorite sites no longer exists |
23:15.49 | skugg | i even forget my own filosophy :P |
23:16.03 | skugg | dankolb, i didn't come up with it, but i think it's good |
23:16.06 | Leeds | as opposed to: "take nothing but oil ; kill nothing but foreigners ; leave nothing but rubble" |
23:16.13 | Leeds | Jenson: which one? |
23:16.16 | skugg | Leeds, yeah. |
23:16.26 | Jenson | One about loads of dumb error msgs Leeds |
23:16.29 | dankolb | skugg: It's posted at a lot of nature reserve sites |
23:16.35 | skugg | dankolb, probably |
23:16.36 | Resudaed | brb, need to provide food for my civilisation |
23:16.54 | skugg | oh well. |
23:16.58 | skugg | i have to go to bed now |
23:17.17 | Jenson | Fucking hell why is the search engine found Linux when I look for dumb error msgs lol |
23:17.23 | Jenson | Night skugg |
23:17.23 | skugg | have to blink and squint like crazy to read the screen, i think it's a sign that i should hit the sack |
23:17.38 | skugg | night all |
23:17.39 | dankolb | night skugg |
23:18.07 | Resudaed | night skugg |
23:18.58 | Leeds | night skugg |
23:19.05 | Resudaed | is using a spreadsheet when playing an online game cheating? |
23:19.28 | Leeds | nope... as long as you're not using behind-the-scenes knowledge |
23:19.32 | Leeds | which game? |
23:19.42 | Resudaed | imperial conflict |
23:19.59 | dankolb | Not 'make-the-numbers-add-up-for-the-taxman'? |
23:20.33 | Resudaed | not behind the scenes, but I got all the forumla from FAQ's etc. and I am way ahead of the rest of my group, and I only log in once a day |
23:21.30 | Leeds | that might be cheating |
23:21.38 | Jenson | That ain't chating |
23:21.42 | Jenson | That's capitalizing |
23:21.48 | Leeds | Jenson: no, but it might be cheating :-) |
23:22.19 | Jenson | lol |
23:22.20 | Leeds | I think you should 'play the role' - if your emperor wouldn't know the formulae, you shouldn't use them |
23:23.05 | Leeds | Shreddies, I think... |
23:23.07 | Jenson | Fuck it Leeds it isn't cheating |
23:23.30 | Leeds | sure it is... and watch your language, young lady |
23:23.31 | Resudaed | it's capitalising to the point where I am buying all my resources from other players, and not even looking at how much cash I have# |
23:24.17 | Jenson | Leeds: You think you can tell me what to do lol |
23:24.35 | Resudaed | kind of build 250 living quarters, and the charge the optimum tax levels to make as much cash as possible |
23:24.59 | Resudaed | (does make the game a bit too easy though) |
23:26.45 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Leeds] by ChanServ |
23:26.49 | Leeds | Jenson: yes, I do :-) |
23:27.13 | Jenson | Damn... |
23:27.14 | Jenson | lol |
23:27.22 | Jenson | That's cheating Leeds. |
23:27.26 | *** mode/#gllug [-o Leeds] by ChanServ |
23:27.37 | dankolb | No. It's capitalising :) |
23:27.38 | Leeds | no, that's not cheating - it's capitalising :-) |
23:27.44 | Leeds | dankolb: stop that! |
23:28.28 | Jenson | lol |
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23:29.09 | Jenson | I used to love telling stupid pricks on AF1 Chat that the hosts would kick them out if they pissed me off....or just make me a temphost and I kicked the bastards myself |
23:29.15 | Jenson | wb dan |
23:29.26 | dankolb_ | thanks |
23:30.44 | Leeds | anyone know about non-nvidia graphics cards for Linux? |
23:31.18 | dankolb | You could go for ATI or Matrox, Leeds |
23:31.32 | Resudaed | leeds, it's his moeny that'll pay for my handheld so I can go back to #handhelds.org :) |
23:32.01 | Jenson | Yay I got a username on ebay without having loadsa numbers on it......(not sure why i want one mind you) |
23:32.31 | Resudaed | saves registering all over again |
23:32.48 | Jenson | My parents hardly know how to use the net |
23:33.02 | Resudaed | neither does mine, I registered it for her |
23:33.28 | Resudaed | should also pay to upgrade my pc, get a laptop, and pay the remaining balance on my car, why can't I be bothered |
23:34.09 | Jenson | coz tomorrow is Friday Resudaed |
23:34.14 | Resudaed | exactly |
23:34.18 | Leeds | I think I want ATI... |
23:34.40 | Resudaed | is it worth sacrificing a saturday for money? |
23:34.50 | dankolb | No |
23:34.52 | Leeds | yes |
23:34.54 | Resudaed | s/saturday/friday |
23:34.59 | Jenson | Yeah Resudaed |
23:35.00 | dankolb | Yes |
23:35.02 | Leeds | Friday? certainly |
23:35.16 | Resudaed | apparantly it's a working day |
23:35.39 | Leeds | and Shreddies |
23:36.27 | Resudaed | does nothing the rest of the time, bank are starting to complain |
23:37.00 | Jenson | banks are fuckers |
23:37.15 | Resudaed | yep, they keep chargin me for unarranged borrowing |
23:37.34 | Resudaed | I'm only 82 quid OC |
23:37.40 | Leeds | I get along quite well with my bank |
23:38.09 | Jenson | My bank won't let me change card coz I'm a student....so I can't buy things of most sites coz they don't recognize my card type. |
23:38.27 | dankolb | I tend to leave my bank alone, and they leave me alone. Works well. I just pay off my credit card bills |
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23:38.50 | Jenson | Hey BorgBaby |
23:38.57 | BorgBaby | Hi Jenson |
23:39.09 | Leeds | Jenson: can't you get a Delta card? I've had once since I was about 17... |
23:39.26 | dankolb | They don't issue them unless you're over-18 |
23:39.33 | eye69 | I've got a crappy switch card. |
23:39.36 | Jenson | I'm 18 |
23:39.48 | eye69 | Going to see if I can get a real visa or something though... |
23:39.52 | dankolb | You need to have a proper student account (not A-Level-type account) |
23:39.54 | Leeds | I could have sworn I had my Delta before I was 18... but even so |
23:40.00 | dankolb | Or a full account |
23:40.08 | eye69 | I have a real visa, but it's swedish.. |
23:40.11 | Jenson | I mean I could probably mange to get a credit card lol but the fucking bank won't let me have anything. |
23:40.23 | Leeds | note that Delta is like Switch, but run through Visa |
23:40.31 | Leeds | Jenson: so get a credit card - why not? |
23:40.34 | dankolb | You'd be able to get a credit card if you opened a new non-student account |
23:40.49 | BorgBaby | Resudaed: join the club ;) |
23:40.50 | Resudaed | (nothing on my records outside that bank though) |
23:40.58 | Jenson | Leeds: My parents don't believe in credit cards lol |
23:41.14 | Leeds | thinking again... I'm pretty sure I had my Delta card before I went to Israel a few weeks after my 18th b'day |
23:41.15 | dankolb | They're good for people with a regular income |
23:41.17 | Leeds | Jenson: so what? |
23:41.30 | Jenson | Leeds: I will when I get a job |
23:41.37 | Leeds | if you can manage it, it's your problem, not theirs |
23:42.33 | Leeds | they *beg* 18-year-old students to take a card... |
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23:42.56 | Resudaed | they begged me, then refused me |
23:42.58 | dankolb | And then screw them with late fees because the students spent too much time in the pub |
23:43.00 | Resudaed | wb |
23:43.06 | BorgBaby | ta |
23:43.17 | dankolb | Hi BorgBaby |
23:43.23 | BorgBaby | hi hankolb |
23:43.25 | Jenson | wb BorgBaby |
23:43.45 | BorgBaby | yep, I'm back ;) |
23:43.49 | Leeds | taking a credit card is taking a certain level of responsibility - if you can't keep up with it (either time or amount), you pay the penalty |
23:44.14 | Jenson | Yeah Leeds I know |
23:44.14 | dankolb | Yeah |
23:44.23 | Resudaed | knows many people that keep their c/c at the limit, pay the minimum each month, then borrow it again |
23:44.24 | Jenson | Considering what I'm like with my library card lol |
23:44.32 | Leeds | speaking as someone who's missed payments in the past :-( |
23:44.56 | Jenson | I should add, considering what I'm like with my phonebill to that list too |
23:45.06 | dankolb | Uhhuh |
23:45.09 | Leeds | I normally do, but I've let a balance build up recently (holiday, car servicing, things like that) |
23:45.48 | BorgBaby | too easy to foget about it with contract |
23:45.51 | Leeds | normally do pay it off, that is... I have access to the money to pay it off, but I'd rather let the balance float down to 0 over a few months |
23:46.01 | Leeds | too easy to forget? |
23:46.20 | dankolb | Too easy to rack up charges, which get debited automatically |
23:46.23 | BorgBaby | yeah - if you spend ages on the phone, then you remember when the bill comes |
23:46.31 | Leeds | I've got an Orange phone on the Virgin-style tariff... no rental charges, but charged in arrears... |
23:46.52 | Leeds | I check my bill when it comes in each month before it's taken from my account (or on-line, if I can be bothered) |
23:47.14 | BorgBaby | payg on 2 phones - on my main one, I've used about 90p in 4 weeks |
23:47.17 | Jenson | I've spent £46 credit this week.....I usually spend that in about 2 and a half months lol |
23:47.26 | Resudaed | eh? |
23:47.40 | dankolb | Eep. That's a lot |
23:47.45 | Leeds | Jenson: whoa! you could probably pay a lot less on a contract |
23:48.04 | Leeds | more Shreddies... |
23:48.07 | Jenson | Leeds: Another thing I will get if I get a job |
23:48.19 | Jenson | and I shold be attempting to get a job at the end of Januaury |
23:48.21 | Resudaed | I havn't made a call on my phone or a couple of months now (22p credit) |
23:48.28 | Resudaed | saving it for important texts |
23:48.36 | dankolb | All 2 of them? |
23:48.43 | Resudaed | yep |
23:48.49 | Jenson | Although evidently the headteacher at my mothers school is seriously considering offering me a job as techsupport coz they've got so used to me loitering |
23:49.06 | Resudaed | emergencies, like to tell ppl I won't make it tot he pub or something |
23:49.29 | Jenson | lol Resudaed |
23:49.37 | Jenson | There is always 10 free texts pewr day on Tiscali |
23:49.45 | dankolb | Jenson: Yeah. Then you can replace their systems with a decent OS |
23:49.52 | BorgBaby | that's pretty much what I do & I get the texts free |
23:50.01 | Leeds | I tend to make calls on a landline (either mine at home, or work) - mobile is mainly for incoming and 2-way text (and data when travelling) |
23:50.14 | Jenson | dankolb: I don't know anything about networking so it could probe interesting |
23:50.23 | Jenson | ^prove |
23:50.25 | dankolb | It's quite easy to learn |
23:50.36 | Leeds | mmm... probe interesting |
23:50.39 | Resudaed | I'm hardly ever online though ;-) |
23:50.45 | dankolb | There isn't much to it, assuming you're not running weird and wonderful protocols |
23:51.00 | Jenson | Yeah Resudaed and I'm really onj online once a week.... |
23:51.12 | Resudaed | that often ? |
23:51.31 | Jenson | Damn why do they make so many gorgeous designs of credit cards |
23:51.43 | Jenson | I'm bad enough with computer backgrounds lol let alone cards |
23:51.48 | Resudaed | wish they'd make my switch card look interesting |
23:51.51 | Leeds | gorgeous designs? like what? |
23:52.07 | Resudaed | grey wih a green square in the corner |
23:52.13 | Jenson | Leeds: Like anything that don't look blue and green like my fucking bank card |
23:52.22 | Resudaed | technically it's a rectangle, but from a distance, it's square |
23:52.52 | Leeds | Lloyds-TSB? |
23:53.00 | Jenson | No Barclays |
23:53.51 | Resudaed | anyone in N.london fancy a game of snooker? (the only plcae round here still open and serving) |
23:54.08 | Jenson | ^does |
23:54.11 | Jenson | fucking typing |
23:54.18 | Resudaed | me dying would help thanks jenson, save the boredom |
23:54.21 | Leeds | Resudaed: no, but out of interest where? |
23:54.30 | Resudaed | enfield |
23:54.43 | BorgBaby | gawd, the sticks! |
23:54.43 | Resudaed | they are behind so many locked doors, they serve till 4am |
23:54.59 | Jenson | sticks lpol |
23:55.08 | Resudaed | sticks? |
23:55.18 | Jenson | BRB |
23:55.47 | Resudaed | further out? like how far? |
23:55.58 | Leeds | on the border between NW4 and NW11 |
23:56.07 | Leeds | couple of miles north of Brent Cross |
23:56.16 | BorgBaby | where is that? |
23:56.18 | Resudaed | enfield is beyond london post codes |
23:56.39 | BorgBaby | EN1 or something is it? |
23:56.50 | Resudaed | EN3 actually, not far from EN1 though |
23:57.31 | BorgBaby | been to enfield a few times actually, and brimsdown - trek & a half for me though (I'm south) |
23:58.03 | Resudaed | a place that consists of a macdonalds and a bp garage |
23:58.13 | Resudaed | (and technically a pub) |
23:58.33 | BorgBaby | there were a couple of parties there a few months back |
23:58.50 | BorgBaby | in the industrial estate - past a pub as it goes |
23:59.05 | Leeds | okay, you're further out... maybe I was thinking of the borough, rather than the place |
23:59.59 | Resudaed | not that that makes any difference whatsoever |