| 00:01.32 | murb | nmap isn't the first thing i'd try if i had a routing problem... |
| 00:01.59 | murb | and ip |
| 00:02.03 | Leeds | ping? |
| 00:02.06 | dankolb | And a pencil and paper :) |
| 00:02.12 | murb | arping |
| 00:02.16 | Leeds | xscreensaver |
| 00:02.22 | murb | xbill. |
| 00:02.31 | skugg | enough! |
| 00:02.32 | skugg | :) |
| 00:02.40 | dankolb | ip doesn't exist on OS X - traceroute and route do |
| 00:02.53 | murb | dankolb: cool no ip. |
| 00:03.02 | murb | i always wander an modern OS without that. |
| 00:03.03 | BorgBaby | route & ping should help |
| 00:03.08 | murb | s/wander/wanted/ |
| 00:03.16 | dankolb | What does 'ip' do? |
| 00:03.24 | murb | dankolb: presuably it as altq etc? |
| 00:03.39 | murb | dankolb: ip allows you to add routes and change routes and stuff |
| 00:03.46 | murb | and also change arp tables etc |
| 00:03.54 | dankolb | Ah right. |
| 00:03.56 | murb | and is a replacement for ifconfig route etc |
| 00:04.07 | dankolb | Ah okay. |
| 00:04.08 | dankolb | Why? |
| 00:04.27 | skugg | new and interesting problems develop... |
| 00:04.29 | skugg | :) |
| 00:04.32 | murb | so you can bring an interface up with it add an ip address to an interface e.g. ip addr add 23.3.2.3.3/32 dev eth3 brd + etc |
| 00:04.54 | murb | well because route can't see the other routes the route cache etc |
| 00:05.09 | dankolb | ifconfig will bring an interface up |
| 00:05.30 | BorgBaby | and will give it an address |
| 00:05.32 | dankolb | 'netstat -rn' |
| 00:06.40 | Davilion | ahh the power of the internet, i can see the people on the same physical network via the the big bad internet but not on my local notwork |
| 00:06.45 | murb | dankolb: how do you add multiple ip addreseses to an interface with ifconfig not using alias interfaces? |
| 00:06.53 | murb | oh and multiple routing tables are useful |
| 00:07.04 | Leeds | because Wheel NT [TM] is faster, rounder and smoother than any other wheel! Only compatible with the Microsoft Axel [TM] |
| 00:07.12 | murb | e.g. ip rule add from eth3 src 23.23.23/23 table 33 |
| 00:07.25 | murb | then ip route add 23.23.5.45/23 table 33 |
| 00:07.26 | dankolb | What's wrong with alias interfaces? |
| 00:07.29 | murb | etc . |
| 00:07.43 | dankolb | How useful are multiple routing tables in real life? |
| 00:07.46 | Leeds | there's also a whole bunch of rule-based stuff you can do with ip... |
| 00:07.58 | murb | dankolb: useful if you have different ip addresses from different upstreams |
| 00:08.10 | murb | e.g try host relay-0.inl.lu |
| 00:08.10 | dankolb | Fair enough |
| 00:08.32 | dankolb | Two different IP addresses |
| 00:09.29 | Leeds | you can do things like prioritise traffic from certain hosts depending on the time of day (e.g. prefer your network backup stuff overnight?) |
| 00:09.48 | murb | Leeds: you probably want to run BGP4 for that |
| 00:09.48 | dankolb | Ah right. |
| 00:10.05 | Leeds | murb: over a private link? |
| 00:10.21 | dankolb | Oh, as an aside, has anyone noticed we've lost Sudhir off the mailing list |
| 00:10.22 | Leeds | I just read the traffic-shaping HOWTO :-) |
| 00:10.32 | murb | Leeds: I was thinking external policy |
| 00:10.48 | dankolb | Traffic-shaping. Sounds like something Ken Livingstone is trying to do |
| 00:10.51 | murb | who was Sudhir? |
| 00:11.07 | Leeds | murb: the accountant/troll on the mailing list |
| 00:11.44 | Leeds | very touchy guy - but very sure of his opinions |
| 00:11.50 | dankolb | Ah. |
| 00:11.54 | dankolb | BT's about to disconnect me |
| 00:11.59 | dankolb | I think I'll call it a night |
| 00:12.03 | dankolb | 'night all - see you on Sunday |
| 00:12.20 | BorgBaby | see you later dankolb |
| 00:14.55 | murb | Leeds: don't we have quite a few trolls on the list? |
| 00:17.01 | Leeds | not real trolls, no |
| 00:23.46 | Leeds | and I actually think Sudhir isn't a real troll, just a prime prat |
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| 00:31.53 | Davilion | <alan partridge> Ahah.... |
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| 00:32.44 | Leeds | hey, Resudaed... |
| 00:33.05 | Davilion | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.30 | murb | why don't you want squahsed root? |
| 00:34.09 | Davilion | because in my case, files are owned by root/random users |
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| 00:34.48 | paul_ | hello |
| 00:35.03 | skugg | /home/stig/fun |
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| 00:46.47 | murb | Resudaed: you going to be around tomorrow i i make it into town? |
| 00:47.56 | Resudaed | I can yes# |
| 00:49.14 | Resudaed | murb, if you can give me more exact details on getting there, I will see what time I can arrive |
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| 01:01.59 | murb | Resudaed: down from exit 4 of old street station on city road opposite honable artillery company. |
| 01:02.10 | murb | just up from moorgate |
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| 01:58.04 | Davilion | what you want is: append="hdx=ide-scsi |
| 01:58.08 | dingoo | hey |
| 01:58.12 | dingoo | i have a question |
| 01:58.43 | dingoo | how do you set a variable to sendmail |
| 01:58.50 | Davilion | /etc/lilo.conf |
| 01:58.55 | dingoo | like the reciepants address in a variable |
| 01:59.07 | dingoo | $var ="whateva@hotmail.com" |
| 02:01.19 | dingoo | another simple question umm im gonna build gnome 2 i amde a new user for it |
| 02:01.38 | dingoo | would it break my gnome 1.4 dependencies by any chance? |
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| 02:28.49 | highbury | gnite folk |
| 02:29.23 | skugg | gnite |
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| 03:57.29 | skugg | eh. nobody talking here. |
| 03:57.40 | skugg | WAKE UP! |
| 03:57.40 | skugg | :) |
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| 04:02.24 | skugg | good. |
| 04:02.29 | skugg | i'm not :P |
| 04:02.41 | Davilion | heh, well when i say awake what i mean is my body is functioning |
| 04:02.48 | skugg | ah. |
| 04:02.51 | skugg | tea anyone? |
| 04:02.58 | skugg | i think i promised that earlier. |
| 04:03.04 | skugg | i don't have any bisquits, mind. |
| 04:03.07 | Davilion | hmm. got any squash? |
| 04:03.11 | skugg | sowwe... |
| 04:03.22 | skugg | yeah. ribena okay? |
| 04:04.20 | Davilion | yeah ribena is good |
| 04:06.47 | Davilion | i did that once. the problem is it takes 26 hours to read the book :) |
| 04:08.24 | zimm | hehe ,, you know , they did a study once and discovered if placed in an environment away from the normal 24 hour day/night cycle most animals settle on a 25 hour rythm .. |
| 04:09.14 | Davilion | yeah apparently its the most efficianet |
| 04:09.41 | Davilion | i was going to just go 26 hour days for a while once, sicne i didnt go outside much anyway and when i did it was at random times so it didnt matter |
| 04:10.05 | zimm | yeh , 24 hours shops are a god send :-) |
| 04:10.09 | Davilion | yeah |
| 04:10.32 | Davilion | its amazing the people that go shopping at 4am |
| 04:11.23 | zimm | heh , i bought a black and decker drill from tescos at 4:30 am once .. was just getting some munch and it happened to be on offer and i happened to need one ,, got some real weird looks though |
| 04:12.02 | Davilion | lol |
| 04:12.09 | Davilion | its when you buy buckets and spade |
| 04:12.20 | zimm | lol |
| 04:14.56 | skugg | hehe |
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| 08:39.27 | *** topic/#gllug is GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk |
| 10:00.52 | highbury | morning |
| 10:39.50 | murb | good morning |
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| 11:24.54 | murb | go Alice! (http://list.ftech.net/pipermail/gllug/2002-December/029994.html) |
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| 11:50.38 | zachary | good morning |
| 12:22.55 | murb | afternoon |
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| 17:08.00 | skugg | murb, did resudad arrive in one piece? :) |
| 17:10.21 | murb | i wasin't in town. |
| 17:10.29 | murb | he didn't phone. |
| 17:10.47 | murb | I woke up toolate and went to high wycombe at 1400 |
| 17:11.17 | murb | then ended up buying a new coat in Amersham, 'cos blacks seemed overpriced. |
| 17:11.56 | skugg | oh. |
| 17:12.09 | skugg | well, he left here about 06:30 this morning... :) |
| 17:12.42 | murb | well that would have been very opptomistic of him to have expected me to have been at the office any time near that. |
| 17:12.57 | murb | are you near wembley statdium station? |
| 17:13.56 | skugg | not _very_ distant |
| 17:14.04 | skugg | i'm at north wembley... |
| 17:14.17 | skugg | (south kenton tube is closer though) |
| 17:14.20 | skugg | bakerloo line |
| 17:15.35 | murb | the chilternline is the line i get to london on. |
| 17:17.42 | skugg | i see |
| 17:18.00 | skugg | oh well, I think I have to do some work now |
| 17:18.07 | skugg | will be back later |
| 17:19.51 | murb | but you're a student, work? |
| 17:21.11 | skugg | course/project work. |
| 17:21.37 | skugg | i'm supposed to present a time-schedule to my supervisor on monday |
| 17:21.56 | skugg | i've not got a clue how to do it, although i've had almost 3 weeks now... |
| 17:22.23 | murb | skugg: their probably aren't very many marks for the schedule are their? |
| 17:22.38 | murb | I laughed at my tutor when he asked for a gant chart. |
| 17:22.41 | skugg | murb, correct. |
| 17:22.57 | skugg | murb, he's not demanding a gannt chart, luckily. |
| 17:23.03 | murb | but then i did the writing up of my project mainly in the week / last 3 days before it was due in. |
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| 17:23.24 | skugg | that doesn't sound healthy. |
| 17:23.28 | murb | its formi? |
| 17:23.39 | murb | skugg: I was working fulltime. |
| 17:23.57 | murb | frequently in luxembourg. |
| 17:24.04 | skugg | murb, i see |
| 17:25.15 | formi | hello |
| 17:25.31 | formi | bugger |
| 17:25.35 | murb | formi? |
| 17:25.51 | murb | you meant to say bye? |
| 17:25.59 | formi | does anybody know if 3com pcmcia cards use non-standard dongles? |
| 17:27.09 | formi | im trying to install freebsd on a laptop |
| 17:27.48 | formi | and it recognizes the card but that is it, the dongle im using is from another card |
| 17:30.36 | murb | there is no such things as far as i've seen as a standard pcmcia network/modem dongle even with the soame manufactorier and everything, i have loads of cards at home and at work without dongles :( |
| 17:30.44 | murb | or with broken ones. |
| 17:31.52 | skugg | yeah, lose the dongle == buy a new card is what i've heard. |
| 17:32.16 | formi | its working |
| 17:32.18 | formi | haha |
| 17:33.03 | formi | i was trying the wrong memory range, with other card |
| 17:33.56 | formi | what is odd is the transfer rate is only 200kb/s when usually is 600kb/s |
| 17:36.10 | formi | well if somebody wants a 3C589, now is your chance |
| 17:37.41 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.41 | formi | # hardware ethernet 00:80:C8:8A:53:84; |
| 17:37.41 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.41 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.30 | formi | oddly enough when getting the dhcp lease, freebsd took the server hostname instead of tp.localdomain |
| 17:40.54 | formi | and more oddly fbsd recognized the pcmcia bridge when linux didn't |
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| 19:54.36 | mazogs | hello everybody |
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| 22:09.27 | davilion | ibot seen resudead |
| 22:09.30 | | resudead <tom@pc-80-193-187-68-en.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 6d 19h 14m 13s ago, saying: 'night anyone else still up'. |
| 22:09.30 | davilion | ibot seen skugg |
| 22:09.31 | | skugg is currently on #gllug. Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 4h 37m 39s |
| 22:09.49 | davilion | heh |
| 22:12.28 | mazogs | davilion: hi, i'm new to London, do you want to chat with me while you wait for your friends? |
| 22:13.04 | davilion | sure. |
| 22:13.26 | davilion | I'm just up, was round at skuggs ast night with resudead just wondered if they were awake yet |
| 22:13.38 | davilion | new to london? or new to linux in london? |
| 22:13.53 | mazogs | i've come here from Spain to work with Linux! |
| 22:14.11 | davilion | ahh cool. |
| 22:14.12 | mazogs | not only this... i also want to improve my english :-) |
| 22:14.26 | davilion | your english is pretty good so far. |
| 22:14.30 | murb | do you speak galician? |
| 22:14.31 | mazogs | and make new friends, of course |
| 22:14.42 | mazogs | no, just castilian |
| 22:14.46 | mazogs | thanks |
| 22:15.05 | mazogs | i've no friends here |
| 22:15.24 | mazogs | i saw in your web that you had a meeting the 7t |
| 22:15.46 | mazogs | i came here the day after :-( |
| 22:16.11 | murb | eek :( |
| 22:16.21 | murb | well you'll have to wait for january |
| 22:16.30 | mazogs | i'll do! |
| 22:16.37 | murb | although we sometimes meet on a saturday and do the computer fairs which you may have discovered on TCR |
| 22:16.39 | davilion | they are fairly frequent, there is one in janruary |
| 22:17.01 | murb | their is also lonix |
| 22:17.02 | mazogs | i'll be there the next meeting you have |
| 22:17.09 | murb | which happens when tushar is arround |
| 22:17.27 | mazogs | i've seen lonix too, but it seems that they no use irc |
| 22:17.58 | murb | lonix is basically the same people as gllug |
| 22:18.17 | mazogs | i supposed that ;-) |
| 22:18.24 | murb | I think it was formed at a time when companies where giving lots of freebies to linux user groups |
| 22:19.05 | mazogs | here's my email: |
| 22:19.17 | mazogs | carlos.baiget@uv.es |
| 22:19.19 | murb | why? |
| 22:19.30 | murb | uv? is that an isp or what? |
| 22:19.36 | mazogs | please drop me one if you meet one evening ok? |
| 22:19.46 | murb | hmm are you on the gllug list? |
| 22:19.58 | mazogs | university of valencia, i worked there, i keep my email |
| 22:20.09 | mazogs | i think so |
| 22:20.11 | murb | cool, you've got a job in london? |
| 22:20.22 | murb | mazogs: you get many emails a day ? |
| 22:20.28 | murb | from gllug if you were on it. |
| 22:20.36 | mazogs | no! i NEED one!! |
| 22:20.48 | mazogs | emails from? |
| 22:21.52 | mazogs | from gllug list? i just suscribed this evening |
| 22:21.58 | murb | join the queue :) |
| 22:22.03 | murb | oh ok. |
| 22:22.30 | mazogs | the queue for work!... ok, i'll do! |
| 22:23.13 | murb | heh |
| 22:23.21 | murb | what sort of stuff do you do workwise? |
| 22:23.30 | murb | i mean want to do/ can do / have done? |
| 22:23.58 | mazogs | i am system administrator, i like programming too |
| 22:24.14 | mazogs | i've already worked as that |
| 22:25.01 | mazogs | in Spain, not here you know, i am not very specific, i want to learn new things too |
| 22:26.10 | mazogs | i want to focus my career in Linux related systems, the same as you i suppose ;-) |
| 22:26.58 | *** mode/#gllug [+o highbury] by ChanServ |
| 22:27.12 | murb | I think i've just talked my self out of a job by recuritin gsomeone else to do it...grrr |
| 22:27.22 | murb | s/a job/my job/ |
| 22:27.38 | murb | sadly all my expences and some other stuff are still in .lu |
| 22:27.53 | mazogs | sorry, i'm not sure of having undersood you.. |
| 22:27.54 | *** topic/#gllug by highbury -> GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk [next meeting 18-Jan-2003, next InstallFest 22-Feb-2003] |
| 22:28.22 | highbury | I'll be updating the website in the next few days :-) |
| 22:28.29 | mazogs | they choose other person for the job?? |
| 22:29.43 | murb | Probably, I'll find out on monday maybe if the boss bothers to turn up on monday. |
| 22:30.22 | mazogs | i wish you all the luck of the world then |
| 22:31.24 | highbury | Hi mazogs, welcome to GLLUG |
| 22:31.49 | murb | thanks, and good luck with you job search. |
| 22:31.53 | murb | s/you/your/ |
| 22:32.00 | mazogs | highbury: thank you very much! |
| 22:32.16 | highbury | murb: we all need it :-/ |
| 22:32.42 | highbury | you've seen the website? |
| 22:32.50 | mazogs | yes |
| 22:33.14 | highbury | good, so you've joined the announce list? |
| 22:33.18 | mazogs | i'am also suscribed to the list |
| 22:33.51 | mazogs | i was telling murb that i came here the day after the meeting... grrr |
| 22:34.08 | mazogs | it wil be next time :-) |
| 22:34.15 | highbury | ok good, the mailing list is quite high volume, and sometimes wildly off-topic and opinionated, so please don't be scared off by it. |
| 22:34.45 | mazogs | i never get scared |
| 22:34.48 | mazogs | :-) |
| 22:34.59 | highbury | as you may have seen by the updated topic, we've just had the proposed dates confirmed my Westminister Uni. |
| 22:36.03 | mazogs | i'll be there! i'm wondering which work will i have then.... |
| 22:36.24 | mazogs | and if it allows me to go! |
| 22:36.55 | mazogs | it will be Saturday |
| 22:37.42 | mazogs | yesterday i passed in front of your University |
| 22:39.39 | murb | well skuggs |
| 22:41.13 | mazogs | oh, i thought that scared was something like angry! |
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| 22:41.44 | mazogs | now that i've seen it in the dictionary, it's not true that i never get scared!! ;-) |
| 22:41.46 | murb | scared is like afraid. |
| 22:41.57 | murb | mazogs: you brave person |
| 22:42.07 | mazogs | yes! |
| 22:42.28 | davilion | mazogs: im not sure what the translation is but i would say 'take everything on the gllug list with a pinch of salt' |
| 22:42.48 | mazogs | ok ok |
| 22:43.11 | murb | davilion: expect for all the truth. |
| 22:43.17 | mazogs | toma todo lo de la lista gllug con una pizca de sal, i suppose |
| 22:48.07 | mazogs | am i the first Spaniard in GLLUG? |
| 22:48.21 | murb | we already have at least 2 |
| 22:48.38 | mazogs | great for me! |
| 22:49.04 | murb | well someone got in trouble the other day for refering to galician as a dialect |
| 22:49.10 | mazogs | althought i think it doesn't matter too much from where members are! |
| 22:49.31 | murb | well, you've not met them so... |
| 22:49.46 | mazogs | i really don't know if it is... |
| 22:50.15 | mazogs | is it? |
| 22:50.30 | mazogs | or the question was left in the air? |
| 22:52.18 | mazogs | from where i come, Valencia, people also like to discuss if Valencian is dialect or not... |
| 22:52.51 | mazogs | but i don't know enough to talk about this |
| 22:56.43 | murb | i think we had this the other evening, to be a language you need an army and a navy |
| 22:58.12 | mazogs | what a strange conclusion... |
| 22:58.34 | mazogs | languages existed before armys and navys i think |
| 22:58.44 | mazogs | and the same for dialects |
| 22:59.01 | mazogs | imho, you know |
| 23:01.24 | mazogs | excuse me if i'm too curious, but how did the question began? |
| 23:03.26 | murb | mazogs: it is a quote read the logs for the refernces |
| 23:03.33 | skugg | eh. the argument of having to have an army to be a language sounds bogus to me. india have over 800 registered languages, but i doubt they have 800 registered armies. |
| 23:03.43 | davilion | hi skugg sleep well? |
| 23:03.45 | skugg | a well |
| 23:03.48 | skugg | davilion, yep. |
| 23:04.04 | skugg | got up about 14 :) |
| 23:04.05 | davilion | i just woke up a couple of hours ago, didnt get in till 9am |
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| 23:04.25 | skugg | heh. |
| 23:04.28 | murb | skugg: no it is the difference between a language and a dialect |
| 23:04.32 | skugg | no sleep for you tonight then? |
| 23:04.34 | mazzogs | ooops! |
| 23:04.35 | davilion | so much for going to bodyworlds/glasgow |
| 23:04.51 | mazzogs | here i am again |
| 23:04.51 | davilion | skugg: no, im goign to be up late again. im in two minds to go home now, or wait until tommorow morning |
| 23:05.06 | mazzogs | mazogs account is hanged |
| 23:05.18 | skugg | davilion, two wrongs make a right? :) |
| 23:05.53 | davilion | if i go now, i can be home in 3 hours if i plug my radar detector in. but i run the risk of getting stuck somewhere, or being too tired to drive,. as where if i leave it till the morning it will take me 6 hours |
| 23:06.02 | mazzogs | excuse me if i'm too curious, but how did the cusetion began? |
| 23:06.26 | skugg | mazzogs, which of them? :) |
| 23:06.51 | mazzogs | well, the one of galician being a dialect or not.... |
| 23:06.51 | skugg | davilion, hm. lose/lose situation then. |
| 23:07.18 | davilion | yeah |
| 23:07.20 | murb | ask formi |
| 23:07.21 | davilion | im thinking tommorow |
| 23:07.35 | davilion | that way i can stay up on irc and just be a wreck tommorow evening |
| 23:07.43 | murb | he'll probably blame me or sothing, but ask anyway |
| 23:07.54 | murb | whereis davilian? |
| 23:07.57 | davilion | i already blew my date off for tonight so i've got nothing to gain by going now. |
| 23:08.13 | davilion | murb: right now im in leamington spa, im supposed to be in glasgow |
| 23:08.18 | davilion | but i slept in |
| 23:08.33 | murb | hotel? |
| 23:08.44 | davilion | no i have an appartment in leamington |
| 23:09.00 | davilion | but i 'live' so to speak in scotland still |
| 23:09.04 | murb | how fancy |
| 23:09.08 | davilion | lol. |
| 23:09.12 | davilion | its a pita really. |
| 23:09.20 | murb | but you have adsl at it? |
| 23:09.31 | davilion | no. my housemate has adsl and wont share it |
| 23:09.33 | davilion | so i have modem |
| 23:09.38 | murb | 'spensive? |
| 23:09.45 | murb | how mean. |
| 23:10.09 | skugg | well, i can almost understand it sometimes... |
| 23:10.14 | murb | or are they afraid if you go anywhere near their computers they'll be converted from windows or somthing? |
| 23:10.35 | skugg | my housemate saturates our adsl line quite often downloading warez. |
| 23:11.04 | eye69 | Evening folks |
| 23:11.09 | skugg | eye69, hey. |
| 23:11.09 | eye69 | Fucking Telewest |
| 23:11.46 | eye69 | My set top has been unplugged for a while...taking _ages_ to download my channel auths |
| 23:11.54 | davilion | murb: no he's just a pita. |
| 23:11.59 | eye69 | It's been on for like 20 mins now |
| 23:12.39 | murb | skugg: but you control it? |
| 23:12.56 | murb | so you can apply QoS to their packets? |
| 23:13.14 | skugg | well. maybe. |
| 23:13.30 | skugg | but i don't have time to find out how to do it. |
| 23:14.01 | murb | what sort of router do you have?# |
| 23:14.08 | skugg | the adsl-router is hooked up directly to the hub, it's not going through a machine |
| 23:14.15 | skugg | it's an adsl router of some sort :P |
| 23:14.28 | skugg | i'll have a look. |
| 23:15.33 | skugg | probably a bad sign, but it's unbranded... |
| 23:16.05 | murb | it nats you? |
| 23:16.10 | mazzogs | try telnet to it... |
| 23:16.23 | murb | snmpwalk it see if it crashes |
| 23:16.30 | skugg | murb, it nats us, yes. and i can telnet into it. |
| 23:16.34 | skugg | no problem. |
| 23:17.09 | murb | so you can do reverse nat type stuff? |
| 23:17.20 | skugg | don't know. what is it? |
| 23:17.51 | murb | skugg: well forward somthing so you can ssh etc back into your home machine. |
| 23:18.20 | murb | this was the thing i like most about having cablemodem access, being able to connect to my home machines from work / anywhere. |
| 23:18.44 | skugg | oh, I can do port forwarding from the router if that's what you mean... |
| 23:19.19 | murb | yep |
| 23:19.20 | skugg | i think at least. |
| 23:21.20 | skugg | hmm... the box says "ATMlayer with traffic shaping" -- that sounds vaguely like somethnig that could be used for QoS.... |
| 23:21.59 | murb | AMTlayer sounds like marketing speak |
| 23:22.34 | skugg | i see. |
| 23:23.20 | murb | skugg: so you avoid all networky stuff by being an AI person? |
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| 23:24.13 | murb | rehi |
| 23:24.28 | murb | 2 hourly cut off? |
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| 23:29.44 | skugg | murb, well. i just don't find all the networking bits very interesting. |
| 23:40.37 | mazogs | bye bye, i hope to come back soon, nice to see you! |
| 23:40.44 | murb | night mazogs |
| 23:40.55 | mazogs | bye! |
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| 23:59.47 | Jenson | hey guys |