irclog2html for #gllug on 20021220

`00:00.31`	`Jenson`	`ibot forget`
`00:00.33`		`Jenson: wish i knew`
`00:00.49`	`Jenson`	`ibot kernel`
`00:01.09`	`Jenson`	`hehehe it's telling me all about kernels now`
`00:01.48`	`Jenson`	`ibot murb`
`00:01.50`		`parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Jenson`
`00:01.59`	`Jenson`	`It doesn't know you murb`
`00:02.47`	`murb`	`well can it just ignore everything is say then?`
`00:03.15`	`Jenson`	`ibot ignore murb`
`00:03.17`		`Jenson: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about`
`00:03.25`	`Jenson`	`no by the looks of it`
`00:03.57`	`murb`	`who ownsibot?`
`00:04.07`	`Jenson`	`Leeds`
`00:04.16`	`Jenson`	`ibot Leeds`
`00:04.20`		`i heard leeds is a bloke called Richard in the UK or spending too much time playing with expensive electronic toys or a genius or whatever you want him to be`
`00:04.29`	`Jenson`	`ibot Jenson`
`00:04.31`		`you are, like, a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself. Red Bull makes her hot`
`00:04.52`	`Jenson`	`Who added Red Bull makles her hot?????????`
`00:05.12`	`dankolb`	`ibot dankolb`
`00:05.14`		`i heard dankolb is not a bot`
`00:05.36`	`murb`	`you don't like redbull?`
`00:05.46`	`Jenson`	`ibot Jenson also resents that comment about Red Bull`
`00:05.48`		`Jenson: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?`
`00:05.48`	`davilion`	`ibot davilion`
`00:05.51`		`rumour has it, davilion is your lord and master`
`00:06.05`	`Jenson`	`oooohhh davilion is my lord and master lol`
`00:06.13`	`davilion`	`Jenson: you better believe it`
`00:06.24`	`Jenson`	`I do like Redbul yeah....I think dankolb added that to my profile though`
`00:06.28`	`dankolb`	`No I didn't`
`00:06.47`	`Jenson`	`Oh lol`
`00:06.51`	`Jenson`	`well I didn't`
`00:07.09`	`murb`	`wasn't me`
`00:07.20`	`davilion`	`me neither`
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`00:08.15`	`murb`	`was it you cupis?`
`00:08.23`	`cupis`	`was what me?`
`00:09.00`	`zachary`	`Well I'm off to bed. Good night!`
`00:09.06`	`Jenson`	`bye zach`
`00:09.08`	`cupis`	`night zach`
`00:09.11`	`Jenson`	`I reckon it was zach lol`
`00:09.15`	`dankolb`	`'night zachary`
`00:09.18`	`murb`	`nnz`
`00:09.46`	`zachary`	`Yea Jenson, I did it and i'll do it again. :-P`
`00:10.27`	`zachary`	`Just kidding. I don't know who added the red bull comment.`
`00:10.32`	`cupis`	`murb: was what me?`
`00:10.45`	`Jenson`	`lol well it wasn't me`
`00:10.48`	`Jenson`	`but n/m`
`00:10.54`	`dankolb`	`ibot Jenson`
`00:10.56`		`hmm... jenson is a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself. Red Bull makes her hot`
`00:11.01`	`Jenson`	`I'm pretty sure it was dankolb`
`00:11.06`	`cupis`	`that was me`
`00:11.07`	`dankolb`	`cupis: Who added the Red Bull comment`
`00:11.17`	`dankolb`	`It wasn't me`
`00:11.34`	`murb`	`Jenson: can we check the web logs?`
`00:11.40`	`murb`	`ibot logs`
`00:11.46`		`http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/`
`00:11.50`	`Jenson`	`We could`
`00:11.53`	`cupis`	`benford.freenode.net,#gllug.xchatlog:Dec 09 23:39:30 <Jenson> Red Bull made me`
`00:11.53`	`cupis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:11.53`	`Jenson`	`but it takes ages`
`00:12.02`	`cupis`	`dankolb: i added it`
`00:12.08`	`dankolb`	`Ah okay :)`
`00:12.15`	`Jenson`	`hehehehe`
`00:12.22`	`Jenson`	`I love the wording though`
`00:12.50`	`cupis`	`sorry, did I miss the end of that sentence when I added the comment? Whoops :)`
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`00:17.13`	`cupis_`	`re`
`00:17.17`	`Jenson`	`wb`
`00:18.37`	`cupis`	`ty`
`00:18.42`	`davilion`	`lol the sign of a true unix user, my collegue still writes direct to sendmail to email me from time to time`
`00:18.52`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`00:18.54`	`davilion`	`and look at teh pso^�^�^�^[[3~^[[3~^[[3~`
`00:18.54`	`davilion`	`the postcode database to see if digital tv works`
`00:19.05`	`davilion`	`of course, his typing hasnt improved much`
`00:20.25`	`dankolb`	`The 2-hour disconnect it going to hit in a couple of minutes`
`00:20.32`	`dankolb`	`So I'll say g'night now`
`00:20.36`	`Jenson`	`I'm going to bed now`
`00:20.37`	`davilion`	`nn`
`00:20.41`	`Jenson`	`See ya dankolb`
`00:20.52`	`Jenson`	`I get 1hr30 disconnects for some reason`
`00:20.57`	`murb`	`davilion: they can tell from postcodes if you live in a cave?`
`00:21.07`	`cupis`	`night Jenson`
`00:21.23`	`murb`	`nn J.`
`00:26.16`	`Jenson`	`Right then, see ya tomorrow guys`
`00:26.21`	`Jenson`	`Night all`
`00:26.50`	`Jenson`	`good idea murb`
`00:26.53`	`davilion`	`your ordeal?`
`00:27.25`	`Jenson`	`what you doing tomorrow davilion?`
`00:27.51`	`davilion`	`Jenson: setting up an 80 node cluster singlehandedly`
`00:28.02`	`davilion`	`which means carrying racks up stairs, unboxing 86boxes`
`00:28.09`	`Jenson`	`ooooohhhh fun!`
`00:28.10`	`davilion`	`screwing on 172 sets of rails`
`00:28.35`	`davilion`	`plugging in 388 cables`
`00:28.47`	`davilion`	`blowing 103Amps of current`
`00:29.28`	`davilion`	`its dead easy Jenson`
`00:29.34`	`davilion`	`just painstakingly laborious`
`00:29.42`	`davilion`	`i did all the hard work yesturday`
`00:30.34`	`Jenson`	`Ahhhhh I'm gonna get a 1hr 30 boot in about 10`
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`01:05.26`	`murb`	`hi Leeds`
`01:07.23`	`Leeds`	`morning`
`07:40.26`	`Tarragon`	`Morning all!`
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`08:10.31`	`ResuDaed`	`morning all`
`08:26.15`	`murb`	`morning deaduser`
`08:59.47`	`dank_work`	`Morning`
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`09:35.35`	`zachary`	`Good morning`
`09:39.39`	`Tarragon`	`Hi zachary`
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`09:53.30`	`Tarragon`	`ResuDaed_: any better?`
`10:22.30`	`eye69`	`The traffic on the list seems to have dropped considerably. :)`
`10:22.37`	`dank_work`	`Which is good`
`10:27.56`	`Tarragon`	`I guess everyone is trying to clear desks for Xmas holidays.`
`10:28.32`	`dank_work`	`I'm not`
`10:28.48`	`Tarragon`	`Awwwwww!`
`10:30.29`	`eye69`	`I'm leaving for Sweden on monday noon.`
`10:34.26`	`dank_work`	`Cool. When're you back here?`
`10:34.37`	`dank_work`	`My desk's a compelte mess`
`10:34.47`	`dank_work`	`*complete`
`10:43.28`	`murb`	`moin`
`11:01.20`	`dank_work`	`In your suit, murb?`
`11:09.08`	`murb`	`dank: nope`
`11:09.23`	`murb`	`DMs, jumper, shirt and tie`
`11:10.19`	`dank_work`	`tie? Ick`
`11:11.52`	`murb`	`Yep, i'll try and avoid logging into anything that matters today and will avoid su`
`11:13.37`	`eye69`	`dank_work: 1st`
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`11:27.34`	`dank_work`	`:)`
`11:27.42`	`irvined`	`morning all`
`11:27.49`	`dank_work`	`eye69: So spending Christmas and New Year in Sweden`
`11:27.51`	`dank_work`	`Hi irvined`
`11:31.20`	`irvined`	`hows it going?`
`11:32.35`	`ResuDaed_`	`~9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
`11:32.58`	`dank_work`	`It's going okay. Slowly. It's a Friday.`
`11:33.13`	`dank_work`	`Was supposed to do a Collaboration install today, and InstallShield just doesn't run`
`11:34.04`	`irvined`	`heh, i was supposed to be doing a big 86 nod einstall today too`
`11:34.17`	`dank_work`	`And AutoVue for Java has fucked itself, so needs to be reinstalled.`
`11:34.20`	`irvined`	`but they phoned us up when we were loading the van and said, erm, we want to go do some shopping can you bring it back another time`
`11:34.23`	`dank_work`	`Which requires transferring the install file across to C&W`
`11:34.27`	`dank_work`	`:)`
`11:35.09`	`dank_work`	`Ahh. 100MBit networks. Transferring a 46Mb file in 5 seconds`
`11:35.49`	`dank_work`	`Heh`
`11:35.55`	`dank_work`	`How come?`
`11:36.02`	`irvined`	`myrinet :)`
`11:36.16`	`irvined`	`2gb fully duplexed`
`11:36.28`	`dank_work`	`Cool. Nice`
`11:36.28`	`dank_work`	`:)`
`11:36.34`	`irvined`	`but its got two cards bonded whcih means about 3gb fully duplexed.`
`11:36.52`	`murb`	`mrinet isn't very cost effective.`
`11:36.56`	`murb`	`s/mr/my/`
`11:37.02`	`irvined`	`no its rather expensive`
`11:37.13`	`irvined`	`i'm just testing it under score with bonding.`
`11:37.25`	`dank_work`	`But Ethernet only goes up to 1Gb ATM, although 10Gb is in development`
`11:37.26`	`irvined`	`Since LUNATIC has been invoked at leeds.`
`11:37.47`	`irvined`	`yeah ultimatly ethernet will be faster than myrinet but its the latency that makes it so cool.`
`11:38.04`	`dank_work`	`Or lack of it?`
`11:38.11`	`irvined`	`our customers like it for mpi data transfers since its like 5 microseconds between thinking about sending and actually being recieved.`
`11:38.20`	`dank_work`	`That's good`
`11:38.26`	`dank_work`	`That's very good`
`11:38.50`	`irvined`	`yeah its really cool, but its very expensive`
`11:39.01`	`irvined`	`1000us a card, plus your switch and enclosure and cables etc`
`11:39.03`	`dank_work`	`Ethernet tends to be in the 100-ish microsecond region`
`11:39.06`	`irvined`	`but for hpc clusters its fantastic.`
`11:39.32`	`irvined`	`dank_work: if you use score they have low latency ethernet drivers whcih can get eepro100's down to <25 microseconds`
`11:39.50`	`dank_work`	`Hokay`
`11:40.03`	`irvined`	`the main trouble with latency at present si the time taken to transend the tcp stack`
`11:40.15`	`dank_work`	`Don't use IP then :)`
`11:41.01`	`irvined`	`heh, yeah, the score drivers still use tcp/ip but just not the kernel stack`
`11:41.14`	`irvined`	`(for mpi anyway)`
`11:41.33`	`irvined`	`so for an mpi job it just blasts out the tcp data to the card rather then letting the kernel encapsulate the message`
`11:42.50`	`dank_work`	`What about being really evil, and doing it over Econet? ;-)`
`11:46.05`	`highbury`	`morning guys`
`11:46.21`	`dank_work`	`hi`
`11:46.27`	`Tarragon`	`morning`
`12:05.22`	`dank_work`	`Woot. We have a fully working Staging environment`
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`13:45.45`	`dank_work`	`Apart from Smoothwall and e-Smith, what other Linux firewalls are there?`
`13:49.42`	`eye69`	`Anybody got Konqueror here?`
`13:50.02`	`Tarragon`	`Yes`
`13:54.28`	`highbury`	`yep`
`14:55.12`	`murb`	`dank; linux firewalls?`
`14:55.32`	`dank_work`	`yeah. or non-linux`
`14:55.38`	`murb`	`redstone`
`14:55.47`	`dank_work`	`I want to try out a few, and compare them`
`14:55.53`	`dank_work`	`URL?`
`14:56.55`	`murb`	`I think you have to buy their hardware, but it is http://www.redstone.uk.com`
`14:57.07`	`dank_work`	`Ah`
`14:57.49`	`dank_work`	`Ehr`
`15:00.07`	`murb`	`they sell boxes`
`15:04.25`	`dank_work`	`Ah. No - I was looking more at something that could be installed on a Standard PC`
`15:09.21`	`highbury`	`smoothwall!`
`15:09.42`	`highbury`	`They sell commercial versions of their GPL product`
`15:11.12`	`murb`	`what about the hardened linux distrbutions linux trustix whatever iti s claled?`
`15:12.18`	`dank_work`	`highbury: Yeah - I've downloaded Smoothwall and ipcop`
`15:12.49`	`dank_work`	`Isn't Trustix a full distribution, though?`
`15:13.54`	`murb`	`dank: I think so.`
`15:14.32`	`murb`	`I like to start with debian base and build my own fws.`
`15:14.44`	`dank_work`	`nod`
`15:14.50`	`murb`	`actually i like to start with one i've built before, even easier :)`
`15:14.51`	`dank_work`	`If I was doing that I'd definitely go with OpenBSD`
`15:15.10`	`dank_work`	`But basically, I've been asked to look at a few firewalls`
`15:15.24`	`highbury`	`Smoothwall 2.0 is now 2.4 based`
`15:15.41`	`dank_work`	`Got 1.0GPL`
`15:17.07`	`highbury`	`thats 2.2.23 based, and is now a static product, all further development is being done on 2.0 code base.`
`15:17.21`	`highbury`	`But do you want free or non-free firewall?`
`15:17.29`	`dank_work`	`Free`
`15:19.27`	`highbury`	`then stick to 2.0 gpl smoothwall`
`15:19.36`	`dank_work`	`Is 2.0GPL released?`
`15:19.58`	`dank_work`	`It didn't seem to be`
`15:20.20`	`highbury`	`its on rc2 but is unlikely to change too much. From reports it seems like its stable and close to final`
`15:20.57`	`highbury`	`smoothwall-2.0-bullet.iso is 24Mb`
`15:21.43`	`dank_work`	`We'd rather use a proper release`
`15:32.24`	`highbury`	`I'm not sure there are really that many, active, free, full distro, Linux Firewalls`
`15:32.48`	`highbury`	`most Linux Firwall solutions, are addons to other distro's`
`15:33.18`	`highbury`	`IMHO`
`15:35.25`	`dank_work`	`Seems so. I've got a 20Gb disk to play with`
`15:37.09`	`murb`	`dank: so you should be able to install several linux distros and openbsd :)`
`15:40.55`	`dank_work`	`yep. That's my idea :)`
`15:41.13`	`dank_work`	`How does Smoothwall play with sharing disks?`
`15:44.34`	`highbury`	`smoothwall, reformats the whole disk as part of its install, therefore must be installed first!`
`15:44.53`	`dank_work`	`Gr. What about ipcop?`
`15:44.59`	`dank_work`	`Given that it's based on SW`
`15:45.39`	`highbury`	`dunno, Jason used to play with it. Last I heard, its development had stalled, but I could be wrong`
`15:46.09`	`highbury`	`Slackware would be a possible choice :-)`
`15:46.18`	`dank_work`	`Obviously :)`
`15:46.42`	`dank_work`	`But maybe we'd use RedHat, as that's what we're moving our servers to (away from Rock)`
`15:46.54`	`highbury`	`LOL`
`15:47.17`	`highbury`	`Don't RedHat have a firewall solution?`
`15:47.24`	`dank_work`	`Yeah, costing lots of money`
`15:47.34`	`murb`	`dank: why are you moving away from rock?`
`15:47.37`	`highbury`	`Firewalls are really the same as other servers`
`15:47.41`	`murb`	`is it politcal PJ wise?`
`15:47.45`	`dank_work`	`Because rock is crap :)`
`15:48.00`	`dank_work`	`Well, Pj is the only one who likes Rock`
`15:53.32`	`dank_work`	`Anything fun going on there?`
`16:01.53`	`murb`	`dank: do you do md5 sums or somthing of the sources?`
`16:02.02`	`murb`	`or is it pkgsrc-- ?`
`16:02.08`	`dank_work`	`Sources for what?`
`16:03.59`	`murb`	`dank: for the bits you build rock linux from`
`16:05.16`	`dank_work`	`Oh right. I have no idea`
`16:05.39`	`dank_work`	`I've never built Rock up`
`16:10.43`	`murb`	`well isn't it about once a month you hear of some sources or other being trojaned?`
`16:13.47`	`dank_work`	`Yeah, I think so`
`16:14.01`	`dank_work`	`I wouldn't be surprised if they do some checks`
`16:14.24`	`dank_work`	`But I honestly don't know what they have`
`16:17.42`	`dank_work`	`under *BSD they check the MD5 of the downloaded tarball`
`16:18.36`	`murb`	`dank: indeed, what was why i was wondering`
`16:19.32`	`dank_work`	`It might give say on www.rocklinux.org`
`16:19.36`	`dank_work`	`ibot rock`
`16:19.38`		`rock is probably kinda bsd-ish, too - in the future i'll probably transfer to rock, when it's default devfs doesn't screw up with xonox's partitioning nightmare`
`16:20.01`	`dank_work`	`Hm. It's SysV-style. And has been for some time`
`16:23.33`	`murb`	`well since it has a sysVish kernel what would you expect?`
`16:31.01`	`dank_work`	`With Rock, not much :)`
`16:39.04`	`dank_work`	`Presents! :)`
`16:40.44`	`dank_work`	`Although I'm not quite sure why I'd need an Angle Grinder & Drill Set - I've got the server room key already :-)`
`16:41.53`	`dank_work`	`Maybe to get into other people's server rooms...`
`17:30.16`	`dank_work`	`Hometime!`
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`17:56.23`	`zachary`	`good evening`
`18:33.08`	`eye69`	`Yuck....hate rain`
`18:48.20`	`ResuDaed_`	`evening all`
`18:49.39`	`eye69`	`Hello resu`
`18:50.04`	`ResuDaed`	`hi eye69, someone is still alive`
`18:50.31`	`eye69`	`I'm not alive. It's an illusion.`
`18:50.38`	`ResuDaed`	`did you hear, I killed X`
`18:51.13`	`eye69`	`You bastard!`
`18:51.31`	`ResuDaed`	`that's what I thouf`
`18:51.34`	`ResuDaed`	`ght`
`18:51.49`	`ResuDaed`	`I was only tring to install nvidias binary drivers`
`18:52.28`	`ResuDaed`	`I am getting erros about un resolved symbols`
`19:02.29`	`ResuDaed`	`cdeject`
`19:06.42`	`ResuDaed`	`wrong screen, I keep doing that`
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`19:32.57`	`mazogs`	`hello`
`19:35.16`	`*** join/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-7-14-119.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`19:42.21`	`ResuDaed`	`evening Jenson`
`19:43.22`	`Jenson`	`hey ResuDaed`
`19:43.54`	`ResuDaed`	`how r u?`
`19:44.28`	`Jenson`	`Alright, ty I feel quite intelligent for learning how to do something that everyone else can already do lol`
`19:44.32`	`Jenson`	`How are you?`
`19:44.48`	`ResuDaed`	`sorry, I am being lazy, and typing while lying down isn't the easiest thinng to do`
`19:44.58`	`ResuDaed`	`I am still surviving w/out x`
`19:45.16`	`ResuDaed`	`(bitchX and email from the console)`
`19:45.35`	`Jenson`	`I tried typing whislt lying down....trouble was I was installing Slack and managed to exit the installation process in the middle`
`19:45.40`	`Jenson`	`ahhhhhhh BitchX!`
`19:45.48`	`Jenson`	`Why can't you use X?`
`19:46.03`	`ResuDaed`	`I am learning to do what peple doing tin the 70's`
`19:46.25`	`ResuDaed`	`I killed it trying to install proper drivers for my gfx card`
`19:46.32`	`ResuDaed`	`and I really CBA to fix it yet`
`19:46.55`	`Jenson`	`Ah well then you will soon get bored to BitchX and what to fix it.`
`19:47.07`	`Jenson`	`did you get X to recognize your soundcard properly?`
`19:47.37`	`ResuDaed`	`yes,, not just X though, I am using the dound card from the console (well to play cd's)`
`19:48.05`	`Jenson`	`Mine still gives me that damn error message.`
`19:48.27`	`Jenson`	`I've got the FD working slighlty better though, it will tell me what it on disks but usually won't load it.`
`19:48.37`	`ResuDaed`	`it is very difficult to tell the difference between d & s when you can't see the keys your pressing, I am relying on being a n3rd and knowing where all the buttons are`
`19:48.52`	`Jenson`	`lol when i do that i fuck up`
`19:48.58`	`Jenson`	`Actually I'm getting better at it.`
`19:49.11`	`ResuDaed`	`what sound card you using?`
`19:49.18`	`Jenson`	`I got very good at typind cd\doom in the dark`
`19:49.24`	`Jenson`	`Soundblaster 16 pro`
`19:49.42`	`Jenson`	`Least I think it is...I should check`
`19:49.48`	`ResuDaed`	`ok, I think that comes under emu10k1 (there's noone here to tell me I'm wrong)`
`19:49.58`	`ResuDaed`	`+ I don't have the internet to check properly`
`19:50.28`	`Jenson`	`Yeah it does`
`19:50.30`	`ResuDaed`	`wahey, text web browser`
`19:50.30`	`Jenson`	`I know that`
`19:50.39`	`ResuDaed`	`you know what?`
`19:50.50`	`Jenson`	`the emu10k1 think`
`19:50.54`	`Jenson`	`^thing`
`19:51.07`	`ResuDaed`	`type lsmod`
`19:51.49`	`ResuDaed`	`(probably need to be root)`
`19:56.30`	`ResuDaed`	`u back yet?`
`19:56.49`	`Jenson`	`am now`
`19:56.56`	`Jenson`	`WAs getting dinner`
`19:57.01`	`ResuDaed`	`do an lsmod as root`
`19:57.22`	`Jenson`	`I'm not gonna be here long either....mate should be calling in about 15 mins and I hope we'll be able to go out`
`19:57.28`	`Jenson`	`I shall write that on my hand lol`
`19:57.35`	`ResuDaed`	`that won't help`
`19:57.37`	`ResuDaed`	`:-)`
`19:57.42`	`Jenson`	`:)`
`19:58.13`	`ResuDaed`	`you not got the box there (2 min job)`
`19:58.20`	`Jenson`	`No I haven't`
`19:58.23`	`Jenson`	`It's in my room`
`19:58.33`	`ResuDaed`	`ah well, might be too big for hand, try paper`
`19:58.45`	`Jenson`	`I'm trying to eat my dinner (which I shouldn't do whilst chatrting coz it'll make me fewel sick)`
`19:59.06`	`ResuDaed`	`ok ?�?�`
`19:59.23`	`ResuDaed`	`as root ...`
`19:59.29`	`Jenson`	`yeah]`
`19:59.30`	`ResuDaed`	`lsmod`
`19:59.47`	`ResuDaed`	`if you see emu10k1 listed ther, this isn't the problem`
`19:59.59`	`ResuDaed`	`(in which case I don't know)`
`20:00.22`	`Jenson`	`I had problems with the emu10k1 files in Windows.....I'v met that one before :)`
`20:00.34`	`Jenson`	`mind you this is a different syzstem`
`20:01.05`	`ResuDaed`	`if it isn't there, try modprobe emu10k1`
`20:01.50`	`Jenson`	`You just like me being here coz I'm more of a Linux newbie than you don't you :P`
`20:01.51`	`ResuDaed`	`if it works after that, type echo emu10k1 >> /etc/modules`
`20:01.58`	`ResuDaed`	`hell yeah`
`20:02.01`	`Jenson`	`lol`
`20:03.14`	`Jenson`	`I really must get the internet setup in my room where my computers are`
`20:03.16`	`ResuDaed`	`yesterday, I worked out how to email someone a text file from the command line, I was well proud`
`20:03.23`	`Jenson`	`:)`
`20:03.49`	`Jenson`	`Today I worked out where what cables go on the motherboard (pretty simple I know but now I've learnt it)`
`20:04.07`	`Jenson`	`It didn't help that I told my dad to leave it alone and he'd moved cables anyway`
`20:04.13`	`ResuDaed`	`simple in the fact that if they fit they fit, if they don't they go somewhere else`
`20:04.26`	`Jenson`	`except IDE1 and IDE2`
`20:04.36`	`ResuDaed`	`that is personal preferance`
`20:04.52`	`ResuDaed`	`(technically ide0 and ide1 ;_)`
`20:05.09`	`Jenson`	`Technically yeah but that aint waghats written on the mobo :P`
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`20:05.16`	`Jenson`	`wb mazogs`
`20:05.53`	`ResuDaed`	`mobo's were written for n00b's (no offence)`
`20:06.05`	`Jenson`	`lol well its true`
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`20:06.16`	`Jenson`	`hi zewwwt`
`20:06.18`	`mazogs`	`hi all`
`20:06.51`	`zewwwt`	`aiyy`
`20:06.52`	`zewwwt`	`how yu been`
`20:07.06`	`Jenson`	`fine ty, u?`
`20:07.10`	`ResuDaed`	`I really should go out, but I can't be arsed to get up, my bed is too comfortable`
`20:07.18`	`zewwwt`	`im gud. knackered.`
`20:07.22`	`zewwwt`	`wer yu go out to?`
`20:07.55`	`ResuDaed`	`Jenson, you're meant to be going somewhere as well`
`20:08.02`	`Jenson`	`I oughta go offline really my mate should be phoning about now so I can go out lol`
`20:08.13`	`ResuDaed`	`zewwwt: I'm going to get some work`
`20:08.13`	`Jenson`	`and I'm blocking the phoneline being geeky`
`20:08.28`	`zewwwt`	`work? college or?`
`20:08.32`	`Jenson`	`pub work`
`20:08.39`	`zewwwt`	`ohh.`
`20:08.51`	`ResuDaed`	`Jenson :-)`
`20:08.56`	`Jenson`	`:)`
`20:09.13`	`ResuDaed`	`we really should stop smilin`
`20:09.18`	`Jenson`	`:P`
`20:09.19`	`Jenson`	`ok then`
`20:09.23`	`zewwwt`	`did yu go to the last meet?`
`20:09.31`	`ResuDaed`	`who?`
`20:09.47`	`zewwwt`	`whoever. juss wana know how it like. similar to 2600 or?`
`20:10.14`	`ResuDaed`	`don't know, I've never actually made it to a 2600`
`20:10.15`	`Jenson`	`Go to http://gllug.linux.co.uk`
`20:10.21`	`ResuDaed`	`I went`
`20:10.35`	`zewwwt`	`oh yeh. thx`
`20:10.37`	`Jenson`	`I hope to be at gllug in Januaury`
`20:10.57`	`Jenson`	`I have to go now so my mate can call....If I don't go out I'll be back later.....hell I'll be back later anyway`
`20:10.59`	`Jenson`	`See ya`
`20:11.05`	`ResuDaed`	`bye`
`20:11.18`	`ResuDaed`	`I g2g, the landlord will be back by now`
`20:11.19`	`Jenson`	`good luck finding work tom`
`20:11.27`	`ResuDaed`	`my real-name`
`20:11.34`	`Jenson`	`yeah yours`
`20:11.38`	`ResuDaed`	`(long time since anyone called me that)`
`20:11.42`	`Jenson`	`:)`
`20:11.44`	`Jenson`	`See ya`
`20:11.48`	`ResuDaed`	`bye`
`20:11.49`	`*** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-7-14-119.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`20:13.18`	`zewwwt`	`speak soon man. im knackered. tc.`
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`20:51.08`	`*** join/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-6-81-209.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`20:51.44`	`Jenson`	`back again`
`20:53.22`	`mazzogs`	`wb Jenson`
`20:53.52`	`Jenson`	`ty mazzogs`
`20:54.11`	`Jenson`	`You need to register your nick so you can kick it out when it gets stuck`
`20:54.36`	`mazzogs`	`it is already registered, what i have to do then?`
`20:55.02`	`Jenson`	`type /msg nickserv ghost mazogs password`
`20:55.08`	`Jenson`	`except type your password`
`20:55.15`	`mazzogs`	`ok`
`20:57.32`	`mazzogs`	`NickServ says that mazogs is not registered, so i am wrong and it is not... how to register it?`
`20:58.02`	`Jenson`	`type /msg nickserv register`
`20:58.12`	`Jenson`	`buit make sure you are on the name you want to register`
`20:59.17`	`mazzogs`	`ok, i'll do it when mazogs gets time out then...`
`21:05.04`	`Jenson`	`ahhhhhh I can't stand channels where 20 people are ops, 4 are chatters and one is talking lol`
`21:06.45`	`mazzogs`	`which channel is that???`
`21:07.12`	`Jenson`	`irc.linuxchix.org #linuxchix`
`21:07.24`	`Jenson`	`And no-one is talking now`
`21:08.19`	`mazzogs`	`is it a lug?`
`21:08.37`	`Jenson`	`no`
`21:10.45`	`mazzogs`	`(i'm having my dinner thats why i'm not talking too much :-))`
`21:11.15`	`Jenson`	`i talked while i had dinner aswell lol ( we are werid people)`
`21:11.24`	`Jenson`	`s/werid/weird`
`21:11.42`	`Jenson`	`I can't type properly sitting with my feet on the desk lol`
`21:12.33`	`mazzogs`	`don't you go out?`
`21:13.25`	`Jenson`	`I should go out, but my mate says she's too tired to go out......so I'm here.`
`21:15.23`	`mazzogs`	`how is that you only have one mate? mate is the same as friend?`
`21:15.34`	`Jenson`	`yeah same as friend`
`21:15.46`	`Jenson`	`I have 2 mates that live round here actually`
`21:15.52`	`Jenson`	`but I CBA to phone the other one`
`21:16.34`	`mazzogs`	`and they are with their boyfriends!`
`21:16.57`	`mazzogs`	`i don't know what is CBA...`
`21:17.15`	`Jenson`	`CBA = can't be arsed`
`21:18.52`	`Jenson`	`now register your nickname.`
`21:19.00`	`mazogs`	`do you mind explaining me the terms i don't know?`
`21:19.06`	`mazogs`	`ok`
`21:19.08`	`Jenson`	`i'll try.`
`21:20.24`	`mazogs`	`i mean if you get tired of it`
`21:20.34`	`mazogs`	`my nick is registered now`
`21:20.48`	`Jenson`	`oh i dont mind explaining`
`21:21.09`	`mazogs`	`ok then :-)`
`21:30.27`	`mazogs`	`and their mobile phones?`
`21:33.03`	`mazogs`	`why? because you have to stay at home?`
`21:33.48`	`Jenson`	`Yeah, and I can't think on anything to do, and this channel is really quiet tonight.`
`21:35.12`	`mazogs`	`do you like chess?`
`21:35.36`	`Jenson`	`I wouldn't know, I can't do chess :)`
`21:36.20`	`mazogs`	`why?`
`21:38.01`	`Jenson`	`BRB - got to feed my rabbit.`
`21:38.37`	`mazogs`	`??`
`21:38.41`	`mazogs`	`are you talking figured? :-)`
`21:39.22`	`Jenson`	`back`
`21:40.02`	`mazogs`	`s/figured/figurative`
`21:40.29`	`Jenson`	`figuratively?....no I'm not`
`21:40.52`	`mazogs`	`i'm not sure i'm understanding you... what is BRB?`
`21:41.09`	`Jenson`	`BRB = Be right back`
`21:41.18`	`Jenson`	`I'm doing well at confusing you aren't I?`
`21:41.48`	`*** join/#gllug seb18 (seb18@modem-824.antelope.dialup.pol.co.uk)`
`21:41.49`	`mazogs`	`no, it's me, don't worry...`
`21:41.54`	`seb18`	`well hello peoples`
`21:42.05`	`Jenson`	`hey seb18`
`21:42.09`	`mazogs`	`hi seb18`
`21:42.25`	`seb18`	`hey peoples`
`21:42.42`	`Jenson`	`ibot seb18`
`21:42.43`		`Jenson: i haven't a clue`
`21:42.51`	`Jenson`	`ibot seb18 is a friend of mine.`
`21:42.52`		`Jenson: okay`
`21:42.57`	`Jenson`	`ibot seb18`
`21:42.58`		`well, seb18 is a friend of mine.`
`21:42.59`	`seb18`	`:)`
`21:43.03`	`Jenson`	`hehehehe`
`21:43.21`	`Jenson`	`ibot seb18 is also a friend of Jenson's and also a chick.`
`21:43.21`		`okay, Jenson`
`21:43.26`	`Jenson`	`ibot seb18`
`21:43.27`		`hmm... seb18 is a friend of mine. a friend of Jenson's and also a chick.`
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`21:43.33`	`Jenson`	`better`
`21:43.46`	`zachary`	`Good evening`
`21:43.53`	`Jenson`	`ibot Jenson`
`21:43.53`		`somebody said jenson was a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself. Red Bull makes her hot`
`21:44.14`	`Jenson`	`ibot Jenson also resents the Red Bull comment`
`21:44.14`		`bugger all, i dunno, Jenson`
`21:44.42`	`mazogs`	`hi zachary`
`21:44.51`	`seb18`	`so peoples`
`21:44.55`	`seb18`	`....`
`21:45.32`	`zachary`	`hi mazogs`
`21:46.19`	`zachary`	`ResuDaed: Available?`
`21:47.38`	`zachary`	`What is happening this evening? I just got back from a wonderful evening with my wife. Drinks, drinks, dinner, drinks. Ok I'm feeling pretty good. :-)`
`21:49.00`	`mazogs`	`great!`
`21:49.37`	`mazogs`	`i've a little stomachache (is it well written?)`
`21:50.17`	`zachary`	`good enough for me.`
`21:50.20`	`mazogs`	`i think i've eaten too much carrots today... :-)`
`21:50.42`	`seb18`	`carrots......`
`21:50.52`	`mazogs`	`yes...`
`21:51.04`	`seb18`	`oh right`
`21:51.17`	`zachary`	`was that from smoking too much hash while in a carrot field? just kidding.`
`21:51.27`	`mazogs`	`seb18: i think they are called carrots, just a second...`
`21:52.11`	`mazogs`	`yes, carrots! :-)`
`21:52.41`	`seb18`	`oh right`
`21:52.41`	`seb18`	`!`
`21:53.43`	`mazogs`	`zachary: i think it is a joke i don't understand as i come from Spain, what does it mean?`
`21:54.07`	`mazogs`	`(i understand the 'smoking too much hash' part..)`
`21:54.25`	`mazogs`	`but what 'in a carrot field'?`
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`21:55.01`	`zachary`	`smoking hash creates hunger(well at least with me). Just think of convience of the carrot field.`
`21:55.14`	`dankolb`	`Hi`
`21:55.29`	`zachary`	`hi dankolb`
`21:56.10`	`mazogs`	`zachary: yes, it definitely creates hunger! :-)`
`21:56.15`	`mazogs`	`hi dankolb`
`22:00.53`	`dankolb`	`hi mazogs`
`22:04.52`	`zachary`	`alcoholic's trivia: What's in a three-wise-man?(Hard Rock Cafe didn't know!)`
`22:05.04`	`zachary`	`s/ men / man`
`22:06.33`	`mazogs`	`no idea`
`22:07.08`	`zachary`	`5 sec.`
`22:07.10`	`zachary`	`3`
`22:07.12`	`zachary`	`1`
`22:07.34`	`zachary`	`Jack Daniels, Jim Beam, Johnie Walker`
`22:07.37`	`zachary`	`yum`
`22:07.46`	`mazogs`	`XDD`
`22:09.52`	`mazogs`	`i have to go to a place no one can go for me....`
`22:11.50`	`zachary`	`Jenson: What's the perverted thought of the day?`
`22:12.09`	`Jenson`	`lol I wouldn't know zach`
`22:12.49`	`Jenson`	`zachary: i just read about hash and carrots lol`
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`22:12.56`	`Jenson`	`hey davilion`
`22:13.22`	`dankolb`	`Hi davilion`
`22:14.35`	`davilion`	`ih Jenson hows it going?`
`22:14.48`	`Jenson`	`Fine thanks davilion. How are you?`
`22:15.42`	`davilion`	`im ok thanks Jenson`
`22:15.53`	`Jenson`	`:) glad to hear it davilion`
`22:19.05`	`dankolb`	`Yeah`
`22:19.14`	`dankolb`	`It's Friday night and......we're on IRC`
`22:20.06`	`davilion`	`heh`
`22:20.15`	`davilion`	`im just online now, been for chinese and now i'm fullup`
`22:20.23`	`Jenson`	`hehehe`
`22:20.42`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`22:21.01`	`Jenson`	`ewwwwwww this needs to go in the fridge`
`22:21.17`	`ResuDaed`	`evening all`
`22:21.35`	`zachary`	`davilion: What did your fortune cookie say?`
`22:21.37`	`Jenson`	`wb ResuDaed`
`22:21.40`	`dankolb`	`hi ResuDaed`
`22:21.54`	`ResuDaed`	`no luck :-(`
`22:21.59`	`Jenson`	`awwwww ResuDaed`
`22:22.09`	`Jenson`	`Looks like we're back in here again then ResuDaed`
`22:22.17`	`zachary`	`ResuDaed: Did you sort out your graphics card?`
`22:22.29`	`ResuDaed`	`zachary, no`
`22:22.35`	`Jenson`	`Are you typing lying down again ResuDaed`
`22:22.47`	`zachary`	`I saw 1 line in your config file that needed to be changed.`
`22:22.49`	`ResuDaed`	`I am, sorry Jenson`
`22:23.00`	`ResuDaed`	`zachary, which one?`
`22:23.05`	`Jenson`	`:) it's ok, you still type better than me`
`22:23.09`	`davilion`	`zachary: dont know didnt have one`
`22:23.14`	`ResuDaed`	`(not that I know how to use vi)`
`22:23.54`	`ResuDaed`	`Jenson, the best bit is because of the angle I have to the screen, I cannot see wht I am typing either`
`22:23.59`	`Jenson`	`I checked the soundcard thing ResuDaed. I can see why it isn't working, the file is missing or corrupted or not compiled or completely fucked or something`
`22:24.19`	`Jenson`	`ResuDaed: I'd make just as little sense with the monitor on or off lol`
`22:24.23`	`ResuDaed`	`what did it tell you?`
`22:24.59`	`ResuDaed`	`(ie at what point did you find out the file was fscked)`
`22:25.08`	`Jenson`	`on the modprobe`
`22:25.32`	`dankolb`	`Again?`
`22:25.40`	`ResuDaed`	`(but is broke)`
`22:25.49`	`mazogs`	`mazogs wants to get drunk also`
`22:26.16`	`Jenson`	`dankolb: What do you mean again, I haven't got drunk for ages.`
`22:26.16`	`ResuDaed`	`dankolb, your are in the minority :-)`
`22:26.37`	`dankolb`	`You always want to get drunk`
`22:26.49`	`dankolb`	`Minority? In what respect?`
`22:26.52`	`Jenson`	`I always want a lot of things though....`
`22:27.20`	`ResuDaed`	`the only one who hasn't admitided to wanting to get drunk`
`22:27.31`	`dankolb`	`Because I don't`
`22:27.51`	`Jenson`	`ResuDaed: He obviously has a life.....but not much of one coz he's here with us`
`22:27.53`	`zachary`	`ResuDaed: Change the line [ Driver "nv"] to [ Driver "nvidia" ] it is under [ Section "Device", Identifier "TNT2 M64" ]`
`22:28.00`	`dankolb`	`I fail to see the pleasure in making myself bloody ill`
`22:28.13`	`Jenson`	`dankolb: Depends how drunk you get`
`22:28.30`	`dankolb`	`That happens if I'm drunk`
`22:28.36`	`dankolb`	`A few pints does not make me drunk`
`22:29.03`	`Jenson`	`I have a terrible alcohol tolerance lol....gotta do my best to improve it.`
`22:29.14`	`ResuDaed`	`dankolb, it depends on your definition of a few pints`
`22:29.20`	`dankolb`	`3-4`
`22:29.23`	`ResuDaed`	`(or what the pints are of)`
`22:29.34`	`Jenson`	`lol ResuDaed - milk :P`
`22:29.44`	`Jenson`	`(that isn't a dirty reference BTW)`
`22:29.45`	`ResuDaed`	`that'll make you very ill`
`22:30.18`	`ResuDaed`	`Jenson, I worry uot you, I didn't immediatly see a dirty referance)`
`22:30.48`	`ResuDaed`	`out = about`
`22:30.53`	`Jenson`	`I workd it out`
`22:31.01`	`ResuDaed`	`workd = worked`
`22:31.06`	`Jenson`	`that too`
`22:31.08`	`Jenson`	`:)`
`22:31.10`	`ResuDaed`	`;-)`
`22:32.43`	`Jenson`	`Well ok then, young girls, I don't mind.`
`22:32.45`	`zachary`	`Welcome to the GLLUG Virtual Pub.`
`22:32.49`	`Jenson`	`:)`
`22:33.12`	`zachary`	`Please keep in mind, our selection is limited to what is in your house.`
`22:33.26`	`ResuDaed`	`zachary, could you send me that file (except I don't know an address that I can read from the shell)`
`22:33.41`	`zachary`	`I'll send it over IRC.`
`22:34.26`	`ResuDaed`	`thanks zachary`
`22:35.00`	`ResuDaed`	`(does it come in 6 packs? I've only ever seen it in 4)`
`22:35.38`	`Jenson`	`I have 1 can of guinness`
`22:36.40`	`ResuDaed`	`zachary try it again (I didn't have a ~/dcc)`
`22:37.07`	`zachary`	`ok`
`22:37.47`	`ResuDaed`	`thanks, btw, what was the line (I used debconf to write the file so I don't know what was changed)`
`22:38.39`	`zachary`	`line 75`
`22:38.49`	`ResuDaed`	`don't know why it wont download, but if you email it to me, I have a samba share on the other box`
`22:39.03`	`ResuDaed`	`tom-t@talk21.com`
`22:39.15`	`ResuDaed`	`Jenson, is Jenson your real name?`
`22:39.53`	`ResuDaed`	`being that every one of your websites has a differnt name :-)`
`22:40.59`	`zachary`	`ResuDaed: email is sent.`
`22:42.21`	`ResuDaed`	`thanks (resudaed goes of to use win-doze) - brb`
`22:45.49`	`dankolb`	`It's suddenly gone dead...`
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`22:46.09`	`ResuDaed`	`:-)`
`22:46.13`	`dankolb`	`Hi again mazogs`
`22:46.22`	`dankolb`	`Wireless card for Apples`
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`22:47.10`	`dankolb`	`wb`
`22:47.12`	`ResuDaed`	`grrr ... apples`
`22:47.14`	`dankolb`	`That took you a long time`
`22:47.17`	`ResuDaed`	`I prefere pears`
`22:47.19`	`dankolb`	`What? Apples are nice.`
`22:47.22`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`22:47.28`	`mazogs`	`ty dankolb`
`22:47.47`	`Jenson`	`OK it was my fault I didn't see the disconnect, but not my fault BT fscked up the reconnect forcing me to reboot and reconnect again`
`22:47.52`	`ResuDaed`	`saying that I do enjoy eating apples, mainly because it makes people sitting around me feel sick`
`22:47.54`	`dankolb`	`Ah right`
`22:47.59`	`dankolb`	`Really? Why?`
`22:48.27`	`ResuDaed`	`I tend to eat the whole thing`
`22:48.47`	`dankolb`	`Ah. Including core?`
`22:49.16`	`Jenson`	`Apple pips have cyanide in them.`
`22:50.01`	`mazogs`	`ResuDaed: i do it too`
`22:50.05`	`mazogs`	`:-)`
`22:50.51`	`Jenson`	`hehehe`
`22:50.58`	`ResuDaed`	`um...`
`22:53.01`	`murb`	`good evening?`
`22:53.06`	`Jenson`	`hi murb`
`22:53.18`	`Jenson`	`boring evening lol`
`22:53.37`	`dankolb`	`Okay evening`
`22:53.51`	`ResuDaed`	`dankolb, that wouldn't be what X was dying with would it :-)`
`22:54.05`	`dankolb`	`It could well be`
`22:54.17`	`dankolb`	`SIG11 / SIGSEGV / Segmentation Fault: Core Dumped`
`22:54.21`	`ResuDaed`	`zachary the new file is bigger than the old one`
`22:54.44`	`Jenson`	`dankolb: That's off a tshirt isn't it`
`22:55.16`	`dankolb`	`No it's not`
`22:56.04`	`ResuDaed`	`4347/3131 bytes`
`22:56.04`	`Jenson`	`well almost then`
`22:56.15`	`Jenson`	`*link`
`22:57.56`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`23:00.43`	`dankolb`	`Binary's all 1s and 0s`
`23:00.54`	`ResuDaed`	`Jenson I could explain it to you, but I don' think you'd appreciate it`
`23:01.05`	`Jenson`	`ResuDaed: Probably not...`
`23:01.08`	`davilion`	`there are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who don't`
`23:01.19`	`Jenson`	`I know that quote davilion`
`23:01.22`	`dankolb`	`There are only 10 types of people in this world - those who understand binary, and those who don't`
`23:01.25`	`ResuDaed`	`dankolb will restarting gdm be enough to restart the X server`
`23:01.36`	`Jenson`	`I still know that quoyte dankpo`
`23:01.38`	`dankolb`	`No.`
`23:01.39`	`Jenson`	`fuck`
`23:01.40`	`ResuDaed`	`dankolb: lol :-)`
`23:01.42`	`Jenson`	`i cant type`
`23:01.46`	`dankolb`	`Just do a CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE`
`23:02.04`	`ResuDaed`	`(that only works when X is running)`
`23:02.22`	`ResuDaed`	`I cannot actually get into the session that X was using`
`23:02.34`	`dankolb`	`init 3 ; init 5`
`23:02.47`	`ResuDaed`	`that'll kill this session won't it?`
`23:02.47`	`Jenson`	`I used to understand counting in binary (was the only one in my electronics class that did i think) but I've forgotten it all now.`
`23:03.15`	`murb`	`magic sysreq is useful`
`23:03.20`	`dankolb`	`ResuDaed: Shouldn't do`
`23:03.24`	`ResuDaed`	`ok`
`23:04.08`	`Jenson`	`I think we lost him.`
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`23:08.12`	`Jenson`	`wb Resudaed`
`23:08.19`	`Resudaed`	`X still wouldn't start, no screens found now`
`23:08.49`	`Jenson`	`I'm not good at X....took me a while to get mine running`
`23:08.53`	`dankolb`	`Hum.`
`23:09.08`	`Resudaed`	`Jenson, the problem is, I had mine running, I managed to fsck it`
`23:09.27`	`Jenson`	`As did I with mine Resudaed`
`23:09.27`	`dankolb`	`I can have a look at the config file if you want`
`23:09.28`	`eye69`	`Haha...they're showing a swedish movie on BBC Four...."Together"`
`23:09.42`	`Resudaed`	`ok, what's your email?`
`23:09.44`	`Jenson`	`I'd look but I'd be no help.`
`23:09.49`	`dankolb`	`dankolb@ox.compsoc.net`
`23:09.59`	`Resudaed`	`Jenson, I'll cc it to you if you want :-)`
`23:10.23`	`Jenson`	`can do`
`23:10.26`	`Jenson`	`you got my mail?`
`23:10.31`	`mazogs`	`don't you have a backup of the other config file?`
`23:10.34`	`Jenson`	`*mail ad i mean`
`23:11.23`	`Jenson`	`I would offer you a copy of my config, if I had my FD configured properly so I could actually transfer files for one system to another`
`23:11.57`	`Resudaed`	`jenson, no`
`23:12.18`	`Jenson`	`aeroquake3arena@hotmail.com`
`23:14.08`	`Resudaed`	`dankolb, in theory you should have 2 files (XF86Config-4 and XF86Config-4.old), .old is the one before zach had a go`
`23:14.51`	`dankolb`	`Thanks`
`23:14.54`	`Resudaed`	`Jenson, do you really want a copy, or do you want my incoming email address, which is a completely different account :-)`
`23:15.37`	`Resudaed`	`(I am sending them from root, so if you send me email there, it'll just get put in a long dir of log files)`
`23:16.29`	`Jenson`	`I'll have a copy......`
`23:16.40`	`Jenson`	`Why would I want your email...I aint a stalker.`
`23:17.06`	`Resudaed`	`:-), ok`
`23:17.49`	`Jenson`	`Well I might want your email to ask annoying techsupport style questions mind you.`
`23:18.37`	`dankolb`	`That's what IRC is for`
`23:18.42`	`Resudaed`	`:-), ok, the one you're most likley for me to ever read is tom-t@talk21.com because it's the only email I have that doesn't rely on my local server running`
`23:19.19`	`Jenson`	`cool`
`23:19.20`	`Resudaed`	`just be careful on anything you put in the subject, my spam filters are pretty strict being that it's a public address`
`23:19.31`	`Jenson`	`I'll add it to my hotmail ,safelist`
`23:19.40`	`Jenson`	`my spam filters kill everything that i dont authorize`
`23:20.09`	`Resudaed`	`eg: anything containg the word viagra or MSN will bounce (no hidden meanings about bill gates there)`
`23:20.17`	`Jenson`	`lol`
`23:20.33`	`Resudaed`	`they just happen to be part of the same filter`
`23:20.40`	`Jenson`	`ohhh 2 new emails.....must be HPExtra news`
`23:20.48`	`Jenson`	`hehe no its you lol`
`23:21.02`	`Resudaed`	`oh, 928 new emails, it must be gllug`
`23:21.10`	`Jenson`	`I should have logged onto MSN then I'd haver known.....but guys just hit on me on there.`
`23:21.19`	`Jenson`	`That's why I'm not on the gllug list lol`
`23:21.32`	`Resudaed`	`Jenson, you actually allow HPExtra news in to your mailbox?`
`23:22.02`	`Jenson`	`Resudaed: Yeah, and delete it everytime, I should unsubscribe`
`23:22.59`	`Resudaed`	`I also block anything apparantly sent from my email address (they think I'm stupid)`
`23:23.26`	`Resudaed`	`why would I sell myself viagra or penis enlargments`
`23:23.33`	`Jenson`	`I have the word 'DVD' filtered on my Bt addresses coz\ otherwise I get 'write your own DVD' ads about 5 times a day.`
`23:23.44`	`Resudaed`	`(I know better)`
`23:23.45`	`davilion`	`wow i just wrote the mother of all emails to my boss lol`
`23:23.54`	`Jenson`	`Well done davilion`
`23:24.02`	`Resudaed`	`davilion, last time I did that, I nearly got the sack`
`23:24.58`	`davilion`	`lol no this was constructive`
`23:25.08`	`davilion`	`he's a bit worried since we were all in hellish moods today`
`23:25.16`	`Resudaed`	`that must be a first, a constructive email`
`23:25.26`	`Resudaed`	`that's because you should all be on holiday by now`
`23:25.26`	`davilion`	`so it was part reassurance, part winge, part plea for more money.`
`23:25.29`	`Jenson`	`I don't rmemeber my last constructive email`
`23:25.38`	`davilion`	`Resudaed: exactly, today was such a fuckup`
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`23:27.06`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`23:27.10`	`Jenson`	`Yeah well done Resudaed`
`23:27.13`	`Resudaed`	`almost as much as when I email people from telnet :-)`
`23:27.24`	`davilion`	`Resudaed: heh my collegue does that,`
`23:27.31`	`davilion`	`its ok until he makes a type`
`23:27.33`	`davilion`	`typo!`
`23:28.02`	`Resudaed`	`most SMTP servers actually understand the backspace, so if you watch as you're typing, you get away with it`
`23:28.11`	`dankolb`	`Resudaed: You've given me two identical files`
`23:28.20`	`Resudaed`	`have I?`
`23:28.33`	`dankolb`	`You have`
`23:28.40`	`davilion`	`Resudaed: yeah but ^H doesnt work on \n's :)`
`23:28.49`	`Resudaed`	`you sure, check the file sizes`
`23:28.49`	`dankolb`	`Apart from one had evil characaters in it, which I had to strip out`
`23:29.54`	`Resudaed`	`(I am assuming the one w/out .old, being that it was parsed by IEXPLORE`
`23:30.07`	`dankolb`	`Probably`
`23:30.30`	`Resudaed`	`evil fscker, I even looked at it in notepad and is had fscked line endings`
`23:31.15`	`Jenson`	`From now on Resudaed you must say scandisk`
`23:31.23`	`murb`	`debugfs to you.`
`23:31.39`	`Resudaed`	`Jenson, I recommend talk21 if you are willing to run your own SMTP server when you leave BT`
`23:31.47`	`Resudaed`	`murb, Windows`
`23:32.05`	`murb`	`is that a tool for doing stuff to disks with?`
`23:32.08`	`Jenson`	`Resudaed: I know nothing about servers of any kind.`
`23:32.25`	`murb`	`Jenson: you're planning on leaving BT?`
`23:32.28`	`dankolb`	`Resudaed: Can you email me the output of 'startx 2>&1 > X.log' (email me X.log)`
`23:32.48`	`Resudaed`	`ok`
`23:33.02`	`murb`	`or /var/log/XFree86.0.log`
`23:33.27`	`dankolb`	`If it's automatically generated, yes. But I only want the output of one start attempt`
`23:34.16`	`Resudaed`	`not quite sure if it worked, I piped it straight to mail`
`23:34.36`	`dankolb`	`We'll see`
`23:35.28`	`Resudaed`	`dankolb, you could have just told me to email the result of startx 2>&1, I am not a total n00b, just 99.9% n00b`
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`23:35.58`	`Resudaed`	`why don't they just fix their damn servers, grrrr`
`23:36.22`	`Resudaed`	`did it work?`
`23:36.26`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`23:36.31`	`dankolb`	`Nope`
`23:37.00`	`Jenson`	`lol total n00b statement, and he fscks it up.`
`23:37.11`	`dankolb`	`Yeah`
`23:37.12`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`23:37.56`	`Resudaed`	`heh, I know why as well (just looked at the command I typed, I windowsed it)`
`23:38.16`	`Resudaed`	`I apologise if my language is getting a little strong :-)`
`23:38.33`	`dankolb`	`<g>`
`23:38.48`	`Jenson`	`lol Resudaed you ain't as n00bified as me, I'm just a fucking idiot.`
`23:38.49`	`dankolb`	`You're talking to someone who uses Windows all the time at work`
`23:38.58`	`dankolb`	`OS slurs don't work on me`
`23:39.53`	`Resudaed`	`I was talking about the use of extreme language, windows needs no 'slurring'`
`23:40.02`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`23:41.08`	`Resudaed`	`even using your line the startx is not dumping anything in x.log`
`23:41.29`	`Resudaed`	`vokda + coke will keep me up all night`
`23:41.37`	`dankolb`	`Is it still dumping to screen?`
`23:41.41`	`Resudaed`	`yes`
`23:41.56`	`davilion`	`heh`
`23:41.59`	`dankolb`	`'startx 2>x.log'`
`23:42.01`	`Resudaed`	`Jenson, do you?`
`23:42.23`	`dankolb`	`Does she what? Dump to screen?`
`23:42.32`	`Resudaed`	`lol`
`23:43.51`	`murb`	`what is wrong witht heo old one?`
`23:44.01`	`Resudaed`	`dankolb, that should work`
`23:44.23`	`dankolb`	`What should work?`
`23:44.29`	`Jenson`	`nothing murb.....just have an inclination towards another addres slol`
`23:44.48`	`Resudaed`	`Jenson, how can you be sleepy, it's only 11.49, you have the whole night to go yet`
`23:44.55`	`dankolb`	`I still tend to only use one, though`
`23:44.55`	`Resudaed`	`'not another dirty comment' :-)`
`23:45.02`	`dankolb`	`NADC :)`
`23:45.22`	`Resudaed`	`dankolb you should have another email`
`23:45.48`	`dankolb`	`Well I don't yet`
`23:45.57`	`Resudaed`	`is worrying`
`23:46.01`	`davilion`	`i have one acount, a few aliases`
`23:46.14`	`dankolb`	`I'll give it a min. to get through the forwarding and filtering`
`23:47.16`	`Resudaed`	`a type in an address wouldn't hold up sending out other local mail would it?`
`23:47.22`	`Resudaed`	`s/type/typo`
`23:47.25`	`dankolb`	`Shouldn't do`
`23:47.34`	`Resudaed`	`(I got one wrong)`
`23:51.53`	`Resudaed`	`if you don't get it, http://stolen.servehttp.com/x.log`
`23:51.59`	`Resudaed`	`(assuming dns is woring)`
`23:52.08`	`Resudaed`	`((my typing isn't))`
`23:52.26`	`Jenson`	`hehehe`
`23:53.11`	`Resudaed`	`if it isn't, replace with 80.193.187.194`
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`23:55.04`	`Resudaed`	`dankolb_ you get it?`
`23:55.23`	`dankolb_`	`Bloody disconnects`
`23:55.24`	`dankolb_`	`Hang on`
`23:56.21`	`dankolb`	`Good for you :)`
`23:56.30`	`Resudaed`	`I think so :)`
`23:56.46`	`dankolb`	`Even when I get ADSL (hopefully the modem will arrive before Christmas), I'll still disconnect when I put the laptop on standby`
`23:58.11`	`dankolb`	`Oh. Er. I see what you mean`
`23:58.11`	`dankolb`	`:)`
`23:58.14`	`Resudaed`	`lol`
`23:58.18`	`dankolb`	`I'm buying it myself`
`23:58.28`	`Resudaed`	`good choise`
`23:58.36`	`dankolb`	`It's a wireless (+ wired) router+firewall`
`23:58.41`	`Resudaed`	`(logical spelling)`
`23:59.56`	`Resudaed`	`ping Jenson`
`23:59.57`	`Resudaed`	`...`

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