| 00:01.23 | cupis | ResuDead: ksnapshot :) |
| 00:01.40 | cupis | or the --import_root thingy |
| 00:01.47 | ResuDead | ok, gimp doesn't like doing it anyway |
| 00:04.13 | cupis | ResuDead: import -window root filename.jpg |
| 00:07.20 | ResuDead | http://stolen.servehttp.com/vb.png |
| 00:09.25 | ResuDead | don't ask me why I do the things I do, I often fail to see the point myself |
| 00:10.17 | ResuDead | (+ this machine is a lot more stable developing with sockets (even through wine) than any of the windows boxes I have to hand |
| 00:14.03 | murble | what is wrong with xwd? |
| 00:20.24 | ResuDead | xwd? |
| 00:40.20 | murble | yep |
| 00:40.31 | murble | man xwd |
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| 01:00.23 | ResuDead | morning mazogs |
| 01:07.25 | mazogs | hi ResuDead how are you? |
| 01:09.05 | ResuDead | playing with a p75, a p133 and a 486 trying to get at least one to work |
| 01:11.06 | ResuDead | brb, chaning monitors (involves chaning to console) |
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| 01:12.18 | ResuDaed | that's better (or worse) |
| 01:12.21 | mazogs | you can make a mosix cluster with them.... |
| 01:12.25 | mazogs | XD |
| 01:12.29 | ResuDaed | now viewing in monochrome |
| 01:13.08 | ResuDaed | saving my decent monitor for building this system for now |
| 01:13.23 | ResuDaed | (the lights tell me more about what's going on) |
| 01:13.29 | ResuDaed | mosix? |
| 01:13.51 | mazogs | don't you know mosix? |
| 01:14.11 | ResuDaed | not that I know of |
| 01:14.22 | ResuDaed | similar to plan9? |
| 01:14.55 | ResuDaed | problem is only the 486 is starting at all |
| 01:15.43 | mazogs | it's used to make beowulf clusters, it's very mature and works ok |
| 01:16.15 | ResuDaed | I wasn't sure what exactly I am going to do with them |
| 01:16.34 | mazogs | www.mosix.org |
| 01:16.38 | ResuDaed | just want to see them working (plus I have 2 apare sockets on my hub) |
| 01:17.04 | ResuDaed | I will remember, currently I am in console, and if I switch back to X, I think this monitor will physically blow up |
| 01:17.43 | mazogs | some people make mp3 modules with them |
| 01:17.50 | mazogs | have you tried knoppix? |
| 01:18.02 | ResuDaed | I have, and am impressed |
| 01:18.43 | ResuDaed | but that is more hard drive space than any of these boxes have, and I have no spare cd-drives |
| 01:18.53 | ResuDaed | (I only have 1 spare floppy :-)) |
| 01:19.52 | mazogs | you just need one pc with cdrom, the others boot from the network i think |
| 01:19.57 | mazogs | with knoppix |
| 01:20.11 | ResuDaed | that is if I get as far as giving this lot a network |
| 01:20.46 | ResuDaed | at the moment they are having trouble with hardware boots, let alone the network/software stage |
| 01:20.46 | mazogs | sorry, i don't understand that sentence! |
| 01:20.53 | mazogs | oh ok |
| 01:21.33 | ResuDaed | the network has a broadband internet connection, so once they are up and running, software installation won't be a problem |
| 01:22.03 | mazogs | do you have problems with the hardware then? |
| 01:22.21 | ResuDaed | yes, they wont ititialise the onboard graphics |
| 01:22.38 | ResuDaed | initialise |
| 01:22.57 | mazogs | is it X who doesn't start then? |
| 01:23.04 | ResuDaed | and I don't have the eqpt here for reading the bios posts electronically |
| 01:23.25 | ResuDaed | X is fine on the other boxes, it's the new ones that aren't booting |
| 01:23.29 | mazogs | what is eqpt? |
| 01:23.35 | ResuDaed | equipment |
| 01:23.41 | mazogs | ok |
| 01:23.51 | ResuDaed | sorry, I am lazy with typing |
| 01:24.26 | ResuDaed | I am currently working with the collection of old hardware I have, trying to get something up and running |
| 01:24.42 | mazogs | no matter, i've to get used with these abrv... |
| 01:25.43 | ResuDaed | where are you (what country/town)? |
| 01:25.50 | mazogs | london |
| 01:26.10 | ResuDaed | ok, I'm not use to people ircing this late |
| 01:26.23 | murble | ITYM early |
| 01:26.29 | ResuDaed | you unemployed? |
| 01:26.53 | ResuDaed | murble, what does ITYM mean? |
| 01:26.59 | mazogs | yes, but looking for job, i need one soon i'll have to come back to spain.. |
| 01:27.13 | mazogs | let me think... |
| 01:27.37 | murble | what part of london are you in? |
| 01:27.44 | ResuDaed | most people with jobs are in bed by now |
| 01:27.45 | mazogs | w2 2sx |
| 01:27.50 | mazogs | yes! |
| 01:28.03 | mazogs | my room mate for example! |
| 01:28.04 | murble | ResuDaed: unless they have next week and the week after off work. |
| 01:28.22 | ResuDaed | ok, those who don't have work in the morning |
| 01:29.13 | ResuDaed | murble, they guy who was going to pick up the computers for me has buggered off to the US till Jan !! most helpful of him |
| 01:29.15 | mazogs | i don't know what ITYM can be... |
| 01:29.15 | murble | I never work mornings anyway |
| 01:29.36 | murble | I Think You Mean. |
| 01:29.49 | mazogs | ok, i'm learning a lot here.... :-) |
| 01:30.10 | ResuDaed | ah, I know only RTFM ... but will admit to only doing it after I break things |
| 01:30.25 | mazogs | i know this one too! |
| 01:30.41 | murble | mazogs: have you got any interviews lines up yet? |
| 01:30.46 | mazogs | the most used in our world! |
| 01:30.52 | murble | xmas time isn't generally a good time to ebe out of work. |
| 01:31.08 | ResuDaed | damn, still no gfx ... |
| 01:31.10 | mazogs | yes, they have told me that.. |
| 01:31.17 | ResuDaed | murble, don't I know it |
| 01:31.26 | murble | people tend to wait for the new year before doing anything, then they want to wait for april because new finacial year etc. |
| 01:31.29 | mazogs | no, i don't have any interview yet |
| 01:31.39 | mazogs | i'll wait then... |
| 01:31.50 | murble | What have you applied for? |
| 01:32.30 | mazogs | i'm looking for sysadmin, or programmer |
| 01:34.09 | ResuDaed | of all the aforementioned machines, only the 486 boots |
| 01:34.55 | mazogs | any message from the other systems? they hang? |
| 01:35.09 | ResuDaed | they don't even init the screen |
| 01:35.32 | ResuDaed | by botting, I mean the ability to receive bios posts to the screen |
| 01:35.39 | ResuDaed | s/botting/booting |
| 01:35.52 | mazogs | and the computer beeps? |
| 01:36.09 | ResuDaed | yes |
| 01:36.18 | ResuDaed | from that I can fix most major faults |
| 01:36.40 | mazogs | by the pattern of the beeps you may know what is happening i think |
| 01:37.03 | ResuDaed | yes, but the other 2 don't beep at all |
| 01:37.18 | mazogs | unplug all the harware and see |
| 01:37.27 | ResuDaed | so my cluster consists of a 486/DX2 with 20MB RAM |
| 01:37.53 | ResuDaed | that is with all h/ware unplugged, and tried 2 different processors |
| 01:38.28 | ResuDaed | the 486 has a dead battery, and the batter is not ... um ... anywhere to be found ?? |
| 01:38.33 | mazogs | unplug the memory too |
| 01:38.49 | ResuDaed | tried it |
| 01:39.11 | mazogs | and the beeps are the same? |
| 01:39.16 | ResuDaed | no beeps |
| 01:39.29 | ResuDaed | *nothing ... no life* |
| 01:40.01 | ResuDaed | the pwr light comes on, and the psu is running fine (even checked voltages) |
| 01:40.16 | mazogs | have you tried to unplug the battery for a few seconds to 'clean' cmos? |
| 01:40.53 | ResuDaed | no, I could try it ... see no logical way in which that prevents a physical boot from even starting |
| 01:41.47 | mazogs | yes i know, ... |
| 01:41.52 | mazogs | but ... |
| 01:42.42 | mazogs | i can think another thing now |
| 01:42.48 | mazogs | s/can/can't |
| 01:43.29 | mazogs | the last time i got mad with a computer was when i tried to put debian in a power mac |
| 01:43.37 | mazogs | ..and it won |
| 01:43.49 | ResuDaed | I just wouldn't play with a mac in the first place |
| 01:44.36 | mazogs | that's the lesson i learnt! lol |
| 01:44.42 | ResuDaed | :-) don't personally like them much |
| 01:45.35 | mazogs | i thought that having debian in the mac was i way to 'free' it.. |
| 01:45.49 | ResuDaed | a fellow debian user then? |
| 01:46.12 | mazogs | yes |
| 01:46.22 | mazogs | and you? |
| 01:47.02 | ResuDaed | yes (although only for about a month) |
| 01:47.36 | ResuDaed | previously deadRat, mandrake, caldera and suse (although not in that order) |
| 01:48.16 | ResuDaed | still no life from either the 133 or the 75 |
| 01:49.10 | mazogs | have you tried a defribilator? |
| 01:49.13 | ResuDaed | I might try the 75 with it's riser card |
| 01:49.24 | ResuDaed | never heard of :-) |
| 01:49.27 | mazogs | riser card? |
| 01:50.16 | ResuDaed | on much old desktop architecture, the PCI/ISA slots were not directly on the mother board |
| 01:50.47 | mazogs | oh i see, my computer uses that, only i didn't know it has a name |
| 01:50.52 | ResuDaed | they used riser cards, I fail to see why one would be needed for a h/ware boot, but we'll see |
| 01:52.21 | mazogs | ok |
| 01:58.25 | mazogs | have you tried kicking them? XD |
| 01:58.54 | ResuDaed | am actually using a hammer and screwdriver combo at moment :-) |
| 01:59.22 | mazogs | they better work! |
| 02:00.14 | ResuDaed | maybe I should get the 486 running before I try to play with the others |
| 02:00.24 | ResuDaed | then I can feel I've made some progress |
| 02:00.53 | mazogs | maybe is the better thing |
| 02:01.04 | mazogs | how far do you think you are of make the others work? |
| 02:01.55 | ResuDaed | well, I have to find a working NIC, then I am ready for a network install |
| 02:02.41 | mazogs | i have a lot of unused nics... |
| 02:03.17 | mazogs | ...in Spain! lol |
| 02:03.27 | ResuDaed | I really could do with some, I have 2 ISA 3COM cards spare, one of which I have a feeling doesn't work |
| 02:03.35 | ResuDaed | :( |
| 02:03.51 | ResuDaed | (my main box uses 2) |
| 02:04.29 | mazogs | is it not a hell to make an isa card to work? |
| 02:05.03 | ResuDaed | I *can* just about do it usually, problem is I need 2 |
| 02:05.11 | ResuDaed | (gateway) |
| 02:05.21 | mazogs | i see |
| 02:06.15 | mazogs | i had a lot of old hardware but i never used it so it went to the litter |
| 02:07.04 | ResuDaed | this 486 is doing pretty well, 400MB HDD, 20MB RAM |
| 02:07.15 | ResuDaed | and it still works after all these years |
| 02:07.29 | ResuDaed | (had windows 98, I took fdisk to it) |
| 02:07.31 | mazogs | 486 what |
| 02:07.35 | ResuDaed | s98/95 |
| 02:07.39 | ResuDaed | DX2 |
| 02:07.56 | ResuDaed | nope, not even that, DX/33 |
| 02:08.04 | ResuDaed | but it works |
| 02:08.33 | mazogs | but are you going to do with it once is installed? |
| 02:09.39 | ResuDaed | bridge between the internet and LAN and run httpd and ftpd |
| 02:09.53 | ResuDaed | (just about capable :-)) |
| 02:10.41 | ResuDaed | will eventually have it running blind (ie no screen) in the corner of the room somewhere |
| 02:10.54 | mazogs | there are live cd in the internet to that i think |
| 02:11.27 | ResuDaed | I want to set the whole thing up myself, no dedicated distro's or anything |
| 02:11.39 | ResuDaed | (pride & learning) |
| 02:12.39 | mazogs | yes! |
| 02:12.59 | mazogs | i thought you were looking for the functionality first |
| 02:14.04 | ResuDaed | functionality isn't really a problem as my main machine des all this already |
| 02:14.19 | ResuDaed | (hence why it has 2 NIC's) |
| 02:14.30 | mazogs | oh i see |
| 02:14.30 | ResuDaed | I am looking for a machine to take over |
| 02:14.53 | mazogs | which machine is it? |
| 02:15.24 | ResuDaed | AMD K6-3 (400MHz) clocked at 650MHz |
| 02:16.28 | ResuDaed | but I want that for personal use/experiment, so if my machine fails people don't start complaining about having no internet access |
| 02:17.27 | ResuDaed | so during development of this 'gateway' box, I will use mine to simulate ISP as much as possible ... aiming for a seamless changeover |
| 02:17.38 | mazogs | it will be great if you could have the p133 for that |
| 02:17.53 | ResuDaed | I know ... |
| 02:18.26 | ResuDaed | I will hopefully be getting a few old boxes from murble (p200s) that can take over, and the 486 can go back to experimentation |
| 02:18.39 | mazogs | you'll have it running soon or later :-) |
| 02:19.14 | ResuDaed | (I plan on pushing the 486 a bit faster (around 200MHz from 33)) |
| 02:19.27 | ResuDaed | I am looking at some extreme cooling systems |
| 02:20.07 | mazogs | are you saying that you are going to put the 486 to 200MHz!!!! |
| 02:20.39 | ResuDaed | that is the plan, I am currently looking at a mother board that'll provide me with the clock/bus |
| 02:20.46 | ResuDaed | at=for |
| 02:21.15 | mazogs | i have to see this! |
| 02:21.37 | mazogs | do you know if such board exists? |
| 02:21.50 | ResuDaed | no, in which case I'll have to make one |
| 02:22.06 | ResuDaed | I know that kinbd of cooling system isn't readilly available |
| 02:22.35 | ResuDaed | (I know a fair bit about the x86 rchitecture, I used t be a h/ware engineer) |
| 02:22.38 | mazogs | how are you going to make one? |
| 02:23.53 | ResuDaed | great difficulty, I have been working on the design for about 4 months now |
| 02:24.52 | ResuDaed | the problem is that mother boards currently in existance with fast enough clocks cannot use a 486 chip |
| 02:25.01 | mazogs | very difficult, you can say it.... |
| 02:25.08 | mazogs | why? |
| 02:26.27 | ResuDaed | they are all built around 586 hardware, which interfaces differently with the processor |
| 02:27.21 | ResuDaed | the impossibility of such a scenario inspires me further to do it :-) |
| 02:27.23 | mazogs | you mean that are bigger problems than the socket, don't you? |
| 02:28.06 | mazogs | it will appear on /.!!! |
| 02:28.07 | ResuDaed | yes, they speak a different language |
| 02:29.15 | ResuDaed | I hope to get on to /., I also hope to get into the history books :-) |
| 02:29.21 | ResuDaed | fastest ever 16 bit processor |
| 02:30.04 | ResuDaed | actually, saying that, the 486 may be 32, I think it was only the OS's at the time that were 16 bit |
| 02:30.27 | mazogs | i once saw someone fitting a p3 on a portable c64, did you saw it? |
| 02:30.48 | ResuDaed | I've seen some wierd things along similar lines |
| 02:32.24 | ResuDaed | people will always try to do what others say is impossible |
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| 02:35.05 | ResuDaed | brb, switching back to X |
| 02:35.13 | gnuwt1966 | here i am again.... |
| 02:35.19 | gnuwt1966 | ok |
| 02:35.50 | ResuDead | evening gnuwt1966 |
| 02:35.58 | ResuDead | (or morning) |
| 02:37.27 | gnuwt1966 | i think gnuwt1966 is me! |
| 02:37.52 | ResuDead | more than likley :-) |
| 02:37.54 | gnuwt1966 | i'm using gnucleus for irc |
| 02:38.18 | ResuDead | ah, I'm using xchat and bitchx |
| 02:38.39 | gnuwt1966 | i have to use winme... |
| 02:38.51 | ResuDead | (X & Consle at the moment, I keep chaning screens) |
| 02:39.11 | gnuwt1966 | just a second... |
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| 02:42.30 | mazogs | hi |
| 02:43.07 | ResuDead | hi |
| 02:43.34 | ResuDead | I have decided to try and get FreeBSD on this box (486) |
| 02:44.03 | ResuDead | the extreme overclocking will not be until I have another gateway doing the same job |
| 02:45.04 | mazogs | i've never seen FreeBSD |
| 02:45.23 | ResuDead | neither have I :-) |
| 02:46.30 | mazogs | oh XD |
| 02:47.06 | mazogs | when you said me you were going to FreeBSD i thought that you both were old friends! lol |
| 02:48.17 | ResuDead | :-D not quite ... never met |
| 02:49.10 | ResuDead | I now have the problem that FreeBSD will need my machine to be a complete gateway, not just a regular proxy |
| 02:49.23 | ResuDead | my machine as in the *current* internet connection |
| 02:50.31 | ResuDead | I stand corrected, you can set it up using a regular proxy |
| 02:50.42 | mazogs | why? |
| 02:52.38 | mazogs | time has come for a carrot... |
| 02:53.40 | ResuDead | a carrot? |
| 02:54.01 | mazogs | yes, i like carrots now |
| 02:55.19 | ResuDead | fine, time for a vodka - I like vodka :-) |
| 02:55.28 | mazogs | (don't tell anyone) |
| 02:56.40 | ResuDead | ok, I won't :) |
| 02:56.55 | mazogs | vodka...... at 3:03 am.... |
| 02:57.28 | mazogs | i'm beggining to understand hallucinations about 200Mhz 486s.... lol |
| 02:57.32 | mazogs | i was joking |
| 02:57.52 | ResuDead | I am 'nocturnal', I sleep most of the day when I am not working, this allows me to study in the peace and quiet |
| 02:58.23 | ResuDead | the 486@200MHz is deadly serious though ... whether or not it'll ever work |
| 02:58.36 | mazogs | since i came here i don't have any fixed hour for anything |
| 02:58.53 | ResuDead | I say peace and queit ... currently I have POD playing at full volume |
| 02:59.02 | mazogs | if you can think of it, you can do it |
| 02:59.12 | mazogs | i can't think of it, i can't do it |
| 02:59.50 | ResuDead | lol, my philosophy has always been that what can be thought of can be done |
| 03:00.11 | mazogs | yes, and it is true |
| 03:01.19 | ResuDead | I managed to get linux on a 386 laptop with 4MB RAM and a 40MB HDD |
| 03:02.00 | ResuDead | and I am a Linux n00b compared to most of those in this LUG |
| 03:02.38 | mazogs | but don't forget to look for some sun light from time to time... |
| 03:02.55 | mazogs | you like challenges |
| 03:03.37 | ResuDead | I like challenges, without them I don't learn anything |
| 03:04.43 | mazogs | i would like to be a debian developer one day |
| 03:04.53 | ResuDead | http://stolen.servehttp.com/vb.png <- MS Visual Basic 3 working on Linux with a fully working TCP sockets library :-) |
| 03:05.14 | mazogs | but i have a lot to learn before, and problems to resolve before |
| 03:05.59 | ResuDead | I have a hell of a lot to learn about linux before I can do anything real career wise |
| 03:06.13 | ResuDead | (I have 'customised' skills) |
| 03:06.45 | mazogs | the same as me i think :-) |
| 03:06.57 | mazogs | but not in hardware |
| 03:07.36 | mazogs | we are in different galaxies when it comes to hardware, from what you say you are planning |
| 03:07.53 | ResuDead | I can do the hardware, but unless you work in R&D (a very small sector) it is boring as hell |
| 03:08.56 | ResuDead | I want a job in software somewhere ... pushing the boundries of something major |
| 03:09.17 | mazogs | what's the story behind vb3 in linux? |
| 03:10.04 | mazogs | i'm looking for a linux related job, but i also have the language handicap |
| 03:10.52 | ResuDead | I was writing some client http software for windows that used a slightly hacked sockets library, windows wasn't 'stable' enough to cope :-) |
| 03:13.14 | ResuDead | I am looking for a linux related job, but have the qualifications/experience handicap |
| 03:13.15 | mazogs | i don't understand yet :-) |
| 03:13.39 | mazogs | do you have any qualification? |
| 03:14.24 | ResuDead | I have almost no qualifications, I messed up my gcse's at school (was lazy with coursework), never got to college properly |
| 03:15.53 | ResuDead | I have hgad a few computer jobs, but nothing that really inspired me, so I quit them and did bar work for a while |
| 03:16.08 | mazogs | are there professional oriented qualifications here? |
| 03:16.51 | mazogs | you will have no problems with this ones, but you'll have to spent almost 2 years with them |
| 03:17.03 | ResuDead | many, but they are not cheap ... |
| 03:18.08 | ResuDead | my computer : http://stolen.servehttp.com/i/comp.jpg |
| 03:18.18 | mazogs | i see, it's like a vicious circle isn it? |
| 03:18.37 | ResuDead | yes, that's the problems I've been having for the past 2 years |
| 03:19.16 | mazogs | time has come to break that circle! :-) |
| 03:19.39 | mazogs | are these qualifications official? |
| 03:21.03 | ResuDead | they are mostly professionaly recognized |
| 03:22.07 | mazogs | how are they called? and how much they cost? |
| 03:22.49 | ResuDead | depends which one you are looking at, this topic appeared in the gllug mailing list a while back ... one sec, I'll look for a url |
| 03:24.25 | mazogs | ok thx |
| 03:28.48 | mazogs | is this your machine now? |
| 03:29.58 | ResuDead | yes |
| 03:30.26 | ResuDead | http://list.ftech.net/pipermail/gllug/2002-December/029498.html is the first mail |
| 03:30.41 | ResuDead | there were quite a few replies |
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| 03:32.54 | mazogs | hi again |
| 03:33.10 | mazogs | "gnucleus auto-evolve" |
| 03:33.24 | mazogs | "auto disconnect without asking too" |
| 03:33.56 | ResuDead | hi, did you get the url? |
| 03:34.16 | mazogs | no, sorry! |
| 03:34.43 | ResuDead | http://list.ftech.net/pipermail/gllug/2002-December/029498.html |
| 03:35.07 | ResuDead | that was the first email about certification, to which there were many replies |
| 03:35.09 | mazogs | ok |
| 03:39.32 | mazogs | i don't understand why companys don't take experience into account if it's from abroad |
| 03:39.59 | ResuDead | that was only the first email ... in actuall fact you find may people disagree |
| 03:40.00 | mazogs | is it the same with academic qualifications? |
| 03:40.45 | ResuDead | I am not an expert, but if you continue to read though the replies to that email, should answer most of your questions |
| 03:40.54 | mazogs | ok |
| 03:41.29 | ResuDead | I am going to be hitting the job market big time come january |
| 03:42.02 | mazogs | what are you looking for? |
| 03:42.16 | ResuDead | anything really, just back in IT generally |
| 03:42.26 | ResuDead | from there I can move on |
| 03:44.08 | mazogs | in Spain the chances are very few |
| 03:44.28 | mazogs | not only in IT but in almost everything |
| 03:44.46 | mazogs | our dear Aznar is shitting it all... lol |
| 03:44.47 | ResuDead | chances aren't that great over here at the moment |
| 03:45.15 | mazogs | at least i can learn a foreign language and make friends |
| 03:45.25 | mazogs | i was bored there |
| 03:46.05 | ResuDead | good enough reason |
| 03:47.06 | mazogs | yes, i had girlfriend and work until september, suddenly i had nothing to apart from waiting... i am bored of waiting for things to come |
| 03:47.33 | mazogs | ... i had nothing to do apart... |
| 03:49.13 | ResuDead | I had a girlfriend and a job (bar job) until July, since then things have gone nasty ... I am in some serious debt and have no money, I have had to move back in with my parents and cannot find any work anywhere ... even bar work |
| 03:49.52 | ResuDead | sorry, I did the bar job from July, before then I was a h/ware engineer ... |
| 03:50.09 | mazogs | what a change! |
| 03:50.21 | ResuDead | I quit the bar job after about 6 weeks because I had to move (couldn't afford where I was living) |
| 03:50.37 | mazogs | i also worked in a bar when in spain 2 years ago |
| 03:50.52 | mazogs | here everything is very expensive |
| 03:50.53 | ResuDead | since then have had *no* money to my name, and debts piling up |
| 03:53.48 | mazogs | for the moment i have no debts, i have a bike in spain i'm still paying, but i think i'll not have problems for that, if so i'll sell it |
| 03:54.09 | ResuDead | alright for some then :-) |
| 03:56.56 | mazogs | i don't know for how much time! :-) |
| 03:57.02 | ResuDead | I hate covering letters/emails |
| 03:57.07 | mazogs | i've spent all my savings coming here |
| 03:57.20 | mazogs | so do i |
| 03:57.35 | mazogs | but they are absolutely neccesary |
| 03:57.38 | ResuDead | the cv is bad enough, but writing a letter to go with it is a nightmare |
| 03:57.56 | ResuDead | I'm not quite sure how to write one to be honest :-S |
| 04:00.07 | mazogs | i've some documents about making a cv and a covering letter |
| 04:00.24 | mazogs | but they are in paper, i'll have to photocopy them |
| 04:07.51 | mazogs | ping ResuDead |
| 04:12.55 | ResuDead | pong |
| 04:13.01 | ResuDead | (mental lag) |
| 04:13.19 | mazogs | estimated time: 4-5 hours... lol |
| 04:13.38 | ResuDead | am just writing my cv |
| 04:13.47 | ResuDead | ZzZz ... boring a hell |
| 04:13.51 | mazogs | now!? |
| 04:13.55 | ResuDead | why not? |
| 04:14.16 | mazogs | well, you are nocturnal but.... |
| 04:14.31 | ResuDead | I want to have it mailed by the beginning of the next 'working' day |
| 04:14.39 | mazogs | are you following any direction to do it? |
| 04:14.45 | ResuDead | my only hope of it being seen before christmas |
| 04:14.54 | ResuDead | backwards? |
| 04:15.32 | mazogs | when i went to the jobcenter, they told me to go to a place where they help me with those things |
| 04:15.50 | mazogs | have you been asked to go there? |
| 04:17.47 | ResuDead | I have never ound anything useful at the job centre |
| 04:17.56 | ResuDead | ^found |
| 04:18.08 | ResuDead | sorry, that is my personal opinion |
| 04:18.26 | mazogs | well, ask them that you want to go to a place called 'pathway to employment' |
| 04:19.00 | mazogs | you'll find very nice people there, wich will help you a lot on finding a work, trust me |
| 04:19.23 | mazogs | i'm very impressed with that, it's a thing that doesn't exists in Spain |
| 04:19.25 | ResuDead | I may try it in the new year |
| 04:19.59 | mazogs | go there with an open mind and get as much help as you can |
| 04:20.32 | mazogs | in fact there are only two compulsory classes each week, but i've assisted all modules |
| 04:20.41 | ResuDead | lol, open mind, open source |
| 04:20.59 | mazogs | i've even assisted to the one of 'surfing the net' |
| 04:21.15 | ResuDead | with telnet or a browser :-) |
| 04:21.25 | mazogs | i did it because i have the english problem and i need to hear people speaking... |
| 04:21.40 | mazogs | with a cuasi-browser, IE :-) |
| 04:22.00 | ResuDead | I'd be inclined to tech someone how to do it with telnet because when they then go to use a browser, they will have so much more respect for technology |
| 04:22.10 | ResuDead | :-) |
| 04:22.13 | mazogs | i can assure you that this people are going all at their hand to make you have a job |
| 04:22.32 | mazogs | with lynx? |
| 04:23.08 | ResuDead | lynx could work, but telnet = more effective |
| 04:23.12 | mazogs | they pay to you the travel expenses to the college if you have any |
| 04:23.25 | ResuDead | they pay for lunch? |
| 04:23.30 | mazogs | lynx through telnet i think |
| 04:23.44 | mazogs | not for lunch...sorry! :-) |
| 04:23.59 | ResuDead | ah well |
| 04:24.04 | mazogs | will you do it? |
| 04:24.41 | ResuDead | I may do, I want to see how these do first (sending CV's to advertised positions) |
| 04:25.04 | ResuDead | nearlly time for breakfast :-) |
| 04:25.43 | mazogs | the problem with the CV is that it has a lot of science behind it.... they explain to you this facts, and the ones related with covering letters too |
| 04:26.09 | mazogs | interviews and killer questions, etc. |
| 04:26.17 | ResuDead | true, but I still wouldn't be able to go until the new year anyway, so I may as well see how these do first |
| 04:26.28 | mazogs | sure |
| 04:27.11 | mazogs | it's closed now, i have to come back in january, i'm already doing it, i think it's the thing that has surprised me more since i'm here |
| 04:29.55 | ResuDead | ah well, I am applying for a job as an Asst. Web Developer, I am writing my CV in *perfect* HTML :-) |
| 04:30.08 | ResuDead | handcoded - of course! |
| 04:30.22 | mazogs | :-) |
| 04:31.14 | mazogs | i have to go to sleep soon my friend, my eyes are closing by seconds... |
| 04:32.02 | ResuDead | lol, I will get breakfast, have a shower, then go out for a job hunting session, go to bed mid-afternoon, up for the evening |
| 04:32.41 | ResuDead | the afternoon seems to be the most logical time to sleep for me at the moment |
| 04:33.28 | mazogs | ok, i'll make all the dreamforce of the world to make the whole universe conspire to make you have the job of your dreams VERY SOON |
| 04:33.40 | ResuDead | ok, thanks |
| 04:33.52 | mazogs | it never fails! :-) |
| 04:34.00 | ResuDead | lol |
| 04:34.38 | mazogs | ok, so time has come for me to stay more horizontally for a few hours.... |
| 04:34.45 | ResuDead | ok, good night |
| 04:35.15 | mazogs | good night you'll tell me tomorrow how the hunt has gone |
| 04:35.22 | ResuDead | ok |
| 04:35.27 | ResuDead | laters |
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| 06:18.13 | Tarragon | Morning All |
| 08:18.24 | eye69 | I'm off to Sweden. Merry Christmas to you all. |
| 08:18.28 | eye69 | *poof* |
| 09:00.06 | dank_work | Morning |
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| 10:34.13 | zachary | good morning |
| 10:34.43 | dank_work | Hiya |
| 10:36.36 | zachary | need coffee |
| 10:37.27 | dank_work | I had coffee |
| 10:37.33 | dank_work | I'm listening to LOTR audio CD |
| 10:38.16 | zachary | LOTR? |
| 10:38.57 | murble | dank: bbc? |
| 10:39.30 | dank_work | Lord of the Rings |
| 10:39.44 | dank_work | Nope. We've got the BBC radio play here, too |
| 10:39.58 | dank_work | It's published by HarperCollinsAudioBooks |
| 10:40.06 | dank_work | (Read by Rob Inglis) |
| 10:41.35 | zachary | Interesting, never used audio books, but I think I might investigate it with my daughter. |
| 10:42.59 | dank_work | They're quite good. Personally, I still prefer dead-tree, though |
| 10:43.46 | dank_work | I've already read the book, though, so I'm happy half-listening to the audiobook |
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| 10:58.39 | murble | hi formi |
| 10:59.05 | murble | they granted you an exit visa? |
| 11:04.16 | formi | no |
| 11:04.27 | formi | they were glad to see me go |
| 11:08.15 | murble | hehe :) |
| 11:14.01 | formi | anyway is nice and warm here |
| 11:14.54 | formi | people do look at me when wearing just a tshirt when it's 12C |
| 11:15.40 | murble | no snow? |
| 11:16.01 | formi | only twice in my whole life |
| 11:16.32 | formi | and it wasnt proper snow more like sleeze |
| 11:19.55 | murble | you have a maritime climate? |
| 11:22.03 | formi | i live 2 min downhill walk from the ocean |
| 11:22.14 | formi | well i used to |
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| 13:04.01 | *** topic/#gllug is GLLUG - Greater London Linux User Group, http://gllug.org.uk [next meeting 18-Jan-2003, next InstallFest 22-Feb-2003] |
| 14:55.35 | SpudUAway | dank_work: Ron Inglis also does real life readings of the books on stage, which is quite entertaining. Did one in the Shaw Plaza Theatre, not far from me, back in November. |
| 14:57.48 | SpudUAway | Well, he does excepts, obviously! |
| 14:58.22 | dank_work | :) |
| 14:58.37 | SpudUAway | 18 hour excepts. |
| 14:59.10 | dank_work | Well, I might as well listen to the whole thing, rather than just excerpts |
| 14:59.11 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:00.40 | SpudUAway | Still waiting on the Reduced Shakespeare Co. version. |
| 15:07.37 | dank_work | That could be fun :) |
| 15:09.18 | SpudUAway | OK, just popping my head in, gotta dash! L8L8ers, etc. |
| 15:09.41 | SpudUAway | WHAT! Gibberish, lawdy lawdy. |
| 15:09.55 | SpudUAway | L8ers, etc ;-) |
| 15:12.32 | dank_work | :) |
| 15:12.39 | dank_work | See you! |
| 16:34.55 | murble | > /away sisters home and only one phone line |
| 16:35.12 | murble | urg |
| 16:35.38 | dank_work | Urg. Documentation not nice |
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| 17:40.29 | dank_work | Hometime |
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| 18:16.56 | Jenson | hey BorgBaby |
| 18:17.13 | BorgBaby | hi Jenson |
| 18:22.42 | BorgBaby | how is everyone? |
| 18:22.51 | Jenson | I'm alright thanks |
| 18:23.26 | Jenson | Today I've learnt that I should be impressed if I manage to sort one error and end up with a different error message coz at least I've made a change. |
| 18:23.30 | Jenson | How are you? |
| 18:24.56 | Jenson | Dinner's ready. |
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| 19:09.45 | BorgBaby | If anyone's awake... |
| 19:09.47 | BorgBaby | http://slashdot.org/articles/02/12/23/0142221.shtml?tid=106 |
| 19:10.12 | BorgBaby | cool... |
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| 19:48.46 | zachary | good evening |
| 19:49.46 | BorgBaby | hi zachary |
| 19:51.05 | zachary | hi BorgBaby, How's the evening going? |
| 19:51.28 | BorgBaby | not bad, supposed to be doing some work, but xmas kicking in... |
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| 19:58.04 | zachary | Had a popup window that said that my memeory might not be optimized. It was even recomended by Microsoft. Hmmmmm! I guess I should buy it. NOT! |
| 19:59.42 | zachary | Hi winjer, how are you? |
| 20:00.21 | winjer | i'm well thx zachary |
| 20:00.58 | winjer | although i ate too much pizza earlier |
| 20:01.01 | winjer | :) |
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| 20:02.41 | zachary | Their is no such thing as eating to much pizza! :-) |
| 20:02.58 | Jenson | yeah there is... |
| 20:03.22 | winjer | i think i proved it empirically about 30 minutes ago |
| 20:03.37 | Jenson | hehehe......well done |
| 20:03.53 | ResuDaed | Evening all |
| 20:04.06 | Jenson | hey ResuDaed |
| 20:04.24 | ResuDaed | Jenson: you missed the pizza again |
| 20:04.57 | Jenson | I was watching saturdays ep of Casualty (for the second time) thats why |
| 20:05.26 | zachary | It's a fundamental law of physics. The Eleventh Commandment. Basic human rights! |
| 20:06.01 | ResuDaed | Jenson: why twice? |
| 20:06.23 | Jenson | ResuDaed Damn birlliant episode |
| 20:07.22 | ResuDaed | wouldn't go taht far |
| 20:08.24 | zachary | ResuDaed: Are you still using the nic ResuDaed_C? |
| 20:08.50 | Jenson | Did you see it too ResuDaed |
| 20:09.16 | ResuDaed | I am not, but I don't have access to that box, if someone were to kick it for me, I'd be grateful |
| 20:09.27 | ResuDaed | (the nick, not the box) |
| 20:09.32 | Jenson | lol |
| 20:09.50 | ResuDaed | got enough dents from me kicking it |
| 20:10.42 | ResuDaed | Jenson I did see it, i end up seeing most of them at the moment ... my mum watches it, and I'm at home at the moment |
| 20:12.07 | ResuDaed | one sec, I could set to box to run level 6 ... one sec |
| 20:12.36 | Jenson | Well done |
| 20:13.09 | ResuDaed | sorry 'bout that, last night I was using both, but I kind of left that box headless |
| 20:13.44 | ResuDaed | all is quiet |
| 20:15.57 | ResuDaed | I would do, but I'd probably get caught, apparantly they have ticket inspectors on your line |
| 20:16.15 | Jenson | Yeah they do. |
| 20:16.47 | Jenson | lol nice one |
| 20:17.19 | ResuDaed | they wanted me to pay almost 40 a week, screw that, I tenner every other weeks seemed a much better deal |
| 20:17.27 | ResuDaed | s/I/A |
| 20:18.16 | Jenson | Yeah good idea |
| 20:18.23 | Jenson | I told my mother....she wasn't impressed lol |
| 20:18.30 | ResuDaed | I think they are on to me, because I as warned that if the same guy caught me again, he'd take me to court |
| 20:18.57 | ResuDaed | my mother wasn't imppressed either, she found the receipts |
| 20:19.15 | Jenson | oopsie lol |
| 20:19.42 | ResuDaed | if I could have afforded it, I would have paid for the ticket, but that mas almost a days wages a week on travel |
| 20:19.52 | Jenson | yeah |
| 20:20.14 | ResuDaed | knock another 2 days for rent, a day for food, that leaves me with 1 days wages a week |
| 20:20.33 | Jenson | Which is pretty shit |
| 20:21.36 | ResuDaed | Jesnon: debian = apt-get install xchat |
| 20:22.39 | winjer | debian++ |
| 20:23.52 | Jenson | I should be thinking about what clothes i need when i go to my aunties on the 26th....but i appear to be here lol |
| 20:24.45 | Jenson | I kinda forgot when I was 16 lol |
| 20:25.06 | ResuDaed | my dad's coming home for the day on the 26th |
| 20:25.47 | Jenson | Your dad in the army or something? |
| 20:26.25 | ResuDaed | not quite ... hospital phsyciatric ward :-( |
| 20:27.00 | Jenson | Not as good.....ah well, at least he's coming home to see you. |
| 20:27.16 | ResuDaed | yeah, but he can be a oain in the arse :-) |
| 20:27.23 | ResuDaed | s/cain/pain |
| 20:27.51 | ResuDaed | everytime I see him, he tells me to shave |
| 20:28.00 | Jenson | I take it you dont see him much then? |
| 20:28.10 | Jenson | Why should you shave...you're a geek |
| 20:28.10 | ResuDaed | about once a month |
| 20:28.31 | ResuDaed | exactly, he doesn't shave (or wash actually) |
| 20:29.07 | Jenson | Do you mind telling me why he's on a pyschiatric ward? |
| 20:29.17 | ResuDaed | kind of has no short term memory, and being a former marine engineer, wahing was never high on the list of priorities |
| 20:29.34 | ResuDaed | he has korsikoff syndrome (not sure on the spelling) |
| 20:30.13 | Jenson | I ,don't know what that is, so telling me really doersn;t make much dfiffered |
| 20:30.15 | Jenson | nce |
| 20:31.15 | ResuDaed | where as a result of extreme alcohol abuse, he's sort of fried the short term memory part of his brain |
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| 20:31.34 | zachary | Jenson: Their are open-source typing tutor programs. |
| 20:31.53 | Jenson | zachary: I have one on KDE slack |
| 20:31.57 | Jenson | heya bee |
| 20:31.57 | ResuDaed | he was out in spain, so nobody saw it coming |
| 20:32.40 | ResuDaed | anyway,that's my sob story over :-) just thought I'd point out he was coming over for the day on the 26th :-) |
| 20:34.30 | Jenson | awwwww ResuDaed at least you've got us lot to tell about it and we won't think you're weird |
| 20:34.53 | ResuDaed | I worry about those who don't think I'm wierd |
| 20:35.17 | bee | hey everyone |
| 20:35.34 | Jenson | ibot bee |
| 20:35.36 | | Jenson: bugger all, i dunno |
| 20:35.47 | ResuDaed | ibot Jenson |
| 20:35.49 | | well, jenson is a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself. Red Bull makes her hot |
| 20:36.00 | ResuDaed | lol |
| 20:36.03 | Jenson | ibot bee is soon going to be converted to a Linux chick by Jenson whether she likes it or not |
| 20:36.04 | | Jenson: okay |
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| 20:36.13 | Jenson | Don't ask about the red bull bit ResuDaed lol |
| 20:36.29 | Jenson | ibot bee |
| 20:36.31 | | well, bee is soon going to be converted to a Linux chick by Jenson whether she likes it or not |
| 20:36.35 | ResuDaed | I think I caught the ass end of that conversation ... sounds familiar anway |
| 20:36.42 | Jenson | yeah |
| 20:36.51 | ResuDaed | ibot ResuDaed |
| 20:36.53 | | hmm... resudaed is finally using a respectable version of linux |
| 20:37.01 | ResuDaed | :-D |
| 20:37.07 | Jenson | I was talking about how red bull make me feel hot and dizzy one day.....and ibot learned it |
| 20:37.10 | ResuDaed | was expecting worse |
| 20:37.18 | Jenson | ibot jenson |
| 20:37.20 | | i heard jenson is a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself. Red Bull makes her hot |
| 20:37.36 | Jenson | most of that profile of mine was me and dankolb lol |
| 20:38.13 | ResuDaed | Jenson: you know bee? |
| 20:38.23 | Jenson | Yeah mate of mine |
| 20:38.26 | ResuDaed | is bee the person you were introducing t xchat? |
| 20:38.30 | Jenson | should be coming to gllug with me on the 18th |
| 20:38.32 | Jenson | yeah |
| 20:39.02 | ResuDaed | introduce her to http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html |
| 20:39.20 | Jenson | lol i could do |
| 20:39.34 | ResuDaed | (700MB download, so I wouldn't d/load it on bt internet |
| 20:40.19 | ResuDaed | I have it dowloading at the moment (61 kB/s and still a 3 hour or so download) |
| 20:40.24 | Jenson | I was d/ling Knoppix at one point...then relaized I couldnt fit it on a disc and my CD software won't burn more than 650mb even on 700mb disks |
| 20:40.45 | ResuDaed | Jenson: I#'ll bring you a copy on the 18th if you want |
| 20:40.50 | BorgBaby | Jenson: what software are you using to burn? |
| 20:40.54 | Jenson | 3kbs of FreeBSD |
| 20:41.00 | Jenson | s/of/on |
| 20:41.26 | ResuDaed | people say that broadband is 10x fast, by my reckoning, I am getting it 20x faster |
| 20:41.32 | Jenson | Adaptec Easy CD Creator...either version 3 or 4......dioesnt even convert mp3s by itself |
| 20:41.53 | Jenson | You have broadband.....cool |
| 20:41.53 | ResuDaed | Jenson: cdrecord |
| 20:42.02 | ResuDaed | Jenson: do you not wonder why I am in here 24/7? |
| 20:42.05 | BorgBaby | yep - cdrecord & it's many sibling progs - no such limits... |
| 20:42.32 | Jenson | ResuDaed: I realized you were always here....just didn't know it was broadband |
| 20:42.59 | BorgBaby | Nero on W***ows has a Wave editor for mp3s |
| 20:43.18 | Jenson | I use MusicMatch jukebox to convery |
| 20:43.31 | Jenson | and winamp to play (not winamp 3 though, to graphical and gimmicky) |
| 20:43.54 | BorgBaby | dunno - mp3burn works nicely for me, with xmms ;) |
| 20:44.29 | ResuDaed | Jenson: you're on 56k aren't you? |
| 20:44.44 | Jenson | yeah |
| 20:45.00 | Jenson | well 46K actually....I've never seen anything above 48k in this area |
| 20:45.33 | ResuDaed | then you can abuse http://stolen.servehttp.com/mp3, I don't think I'd notice you on my upstream |
| 20:46.58 | Jenson | Ah, damn download is killing my bandwidth |
| 20:48.00 | Jenson | I think your server is half dead again ResuDaed, or my browser is just deciding to time out on it |
| 20:50.19 | ResuDaed | actually, me server is currently updating the lists, give it a few mins |
| 20:51.12 | Jenson | Ah good, it's not my stupid net....and i won't have to resort to using moz or netscape (like i do when IE kills itself for a couple of weeks, then is fine again lol) |
| 20:51.46 | ResuDaed | that link will probably need a trailing / on it anyway |
| 20:52.03 | Jenson | I must sort my site out...it's still linking the graphic of my HD...and I don't want that |
| 20:53.05 | Jenson | *graphics off |
| 20:56.25 | Jenson | Oh for fuck sake, I have Frontpage Express when it doesn't work....I think I'll edit the HTML myself |
| 20:56.31 | Jenson | s/have/hate |
| 20:58.46 | Jenson | Much better, now you guys can look at my site without thinking I canb't do my HTML right lol |
| 20:59.45 | BorgBaby | what's your url then? |
| 21:01.30 | Jenson | http://www.btinternet.com/~lita16 |
| 21:02.15 | Jenson | hehehe |
| 21:02.19 | Jenson | it's rather crap at the moment |
| 21:03.31 | BorgBaby | didn't realise you were a goth ;) |
| 21:04.15 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:04.35 | BorgBaby | do you like the Sisters of Mercy at all? |
| 21:04.43 | Jenson | I'm about to add random pictures of computers just for the hell of it |
| 21:05.04 | Jenson | Yeah actually......I'm listening to Adema at the moment (not goth I know lol) |
| 21:05.51 | BorgBaby | I used to be a very big SoM fan, in my younger days...had the hair & the nail varnish as well... |
| 21:05.58 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:07.22 | BorgBaby | the trouble with Frontpage is that you end up having to edit it anyway as it inserts loads of meaningless crap into every page |
| 21:07.54 | Jenson | Yeah but I don't know any of my coulour codes so it's easy that way |
| 21:08.37 | BorgBaby | get a Dreamweaver trial - you'll never go back... |
| 21:08.53 | Jenson | Yeah people have said that before |
| 21:09.03 | Jenson | I don't like websites anywya....I've only got.....5 I think |
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| 21:09.11 | Jenson | wb resudaed |
| 21:09.26 | BorgBaby | it's the best HTML editor I've used - on either Windows or Linux, but unfortunately costs about $300 to buy... |
| 21:09.42 | ResuDaed | tht was a really bad time to lose power (while transfering 3GB from 1 disk to another) |
| 21:09.54 | Jenson | Not fun ResuDaed |
| 21:10.00 | ResuDaed | bad enough for fsck to fail |
| 21:10.22 | Jenson | ibot lart bad timing on power cuts |
| 21:10.28 | ResuDaed | just aswel I was copying and not moving, the orrgionals should still be there |
| 21:10.43 | ResuDaed | ty Jenson |
| 21:10.46 | Jenson | yw |
| 21:10.52 | Jenson | ibot BorgBaby |
| 21:10.58 | | i heard borgbaby is ibot's master |
| 21:10.58 | ResuDaed | time to resume copying |
| 21:11.10 | Jenson | hehehe ibot likes you BorgBaby |
| 21:11.20 | BorgBaby | he's been told to! ;) |
| 21:11.27 | BorgBaby | or else, ibot |
| 21:12.04 | Jenson | :) |
| 21:12.05 | BorgBaby | actually, I'm not his master, I just thought it was funny one night |
| 21:12.13 | Jenson | My profile is definately the worst |
| 21:12.22 | BorgBaby | ibot Jenson |
| 21:12.24 | | hmm... jenson is a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself. Red Bull makes her hot |
| 21:13.41 | BorgBaby | ping cookiejar |
| 21:13.59 | Jenson | lol BorgBaby just take a cookie |
| 21:14.07 | Jenson | the cookiejar doesnt pong lol |
| 21:14.38 | Jenson | I ought to just go feed my rabbit |
| 21:14.39 | Jenson | BRB |
| 21:16.06 | ResuDaed | otherwise I'd probably crash the system, |
| 21:16.24 | BorgBaby | ResuDaed: what are you doing? |
| 21:16.33 | ResuDaed | moving my mp3 collection |
| 21:17.20 | ResuDaed | isn't all that huge, but it's been going for about 20 mins so far |
| 21:18.29 | Jenson | back |
| 21:18.33 | ResuDaed | wb |
| 21:18.36 | Jenson | My Mp3 collection is about 3GB |
| 21:18.37 | Jenson | ty |
| 21:18.52 | BorgBaby | what sort of link? serial/ide/ethernet? |
| 21:19.05 | ResuDaed | ide |
| 21:19.18 | ResuDaed | but on the same bus |
| 21:19.24 | Jenson | BorgBaby: If you want more pics of my gothness try thr pic page on http://www.face-pic.com/jenson |
| 21:19.49 | BorgBaby | eek! I may need another vodka for that one... |
| 21:20.05 | BorgBaby | (only joking) |
| 21:20.08 | ResuDaed | my old mp3 collection had it's own harddisk (there were about 20 divXs in there as well) 35GB |
| 21:20.32 | Jenson | 35GB....freaking hell |
| 21:20.43 | BorgBaby | as long as it doesn't stall it should be ok |
| 21:20.47 | ResuDaed | I lost that harddisk, and have been working very hard to get as many back as I could ... but I'm down to a 15GB hard disk |
| 21:21.28 | ResuDaed | 35GB on a 7200rpm 40GB hdd and it's own ide bus |
| 21:21.28 | Jenson | I can see why you didn't back that lot up to CD... |
| 21:21.53 | ResuDaed | Jenson: lol, I now back up over ethernet |
| 21:22.10 | ResuDaed | my sister has no idea that here entire harddisk is a samba share |
| 21:22.15 | ResuDaed | s/here/her |
| 21:23.04 | Jenson | ResuDaed: Yeah but you are clever....the thought of anything that includes networking would confuse the hell outta me |
| 21:23.35 | BorgBaby | I've got to do a networking assignment for college that's boring the crap out of me |
| 21:24.11 | Jenson | BorgBaby: I'm dreading uni......I can't be arsed to learn to network...although I'd quite like to know how too |
| 21:24.22 | ResuDaed | BorgBaby: I know the feeling, I've had a few like that ... as well as being tought redundant (IMHO) networking topologies |
| 21:24.39 | BorgBaby | well - networking can be fun - just not the way our tutor does it |
| 21:24.48 | ResuDaed | oh shit |
| 21:25.03 | Jenson | networks were created to play Doom and Quake as far as I see lol |
| 21:25.25 | BorgBaby | ResuDaed: it's just so vague, it's pretty much make it up as you go along, just stick his notes in somewhere! |
| 21:25.33 | ResuDaed | cannot create directory, no space left on drive :-( |
| 21:25.56 | ResuDaed | where'd it all go |
| 21:26.18 | ResuDaed | (told you it was a good idea for me to put /home on a seperate partition) |
| 21:28.11 | ResuDaed | http://stolen.servehttp.com/opps.png |
| 21:29.01 | BorgBaby | oh dear... |
| 21:29.22 | ResuDaed | oh dear eaxactly ... |
| 21:29.55 | ResuDaed | um ... depp though needed here |
| 21:30.03 | ResuDaed | deep |
| 21:30.29 | ResuDaed | deleting redunsdant tarballs may buy me the extra space to reshuffle |
| 21:30.38 | BorgBaby | temporary/swap files ? |
| 21:31.02 | BorgBaby | hang on - did you say earlier that one transfer went wrong? |
| 21:31.02 | ResuDaed | not that I know of, most of that's in ~/mp3 and~/divx |
| 21:31.43 | ResuDaed | yes, but I've run it again, over writing it all |
| 21:33.05 | ResuDaed | time to browse through home dir deleteing what I don't need |
| 21:33.58 | BorgBaby | looks like it... |
| 21:34.39 | ResuDaed | there are only 5GB of mp3's at the moment, what's the disk hog then? |
| 21:34.55 | BorgBaby | how full was it before you started? |
| 21:35.27 | ResuDaed | no idea, I didn't think to look, I was used to having GB's of free space |
| 21:35.52 | BorgBaby | maybe check for a core dump |
| 21:36.07 | ResuDaed | on /home ? |
| 21:36.30 | BorgBaby | hmm... maybe not, just a (drunken) idea |
| 21:40.11 | ResuDaed | 600MB freed in duplicate files |
| 21:41.00 | *** join/#gllug cupis (~paul@modem-1059.dasyure.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 21:41.18 | ResuDaed | cupis -> http://stolen.servehttp.com/opps.png |
| 21:41.30 | cupis | hi ResuDaed |
| 21:41.33 | ResuDaed | hi |
| 21:41.36 | cupis | oh dear |
| 21:41.38 | cupis | :) |
| 21:41.46 | ResuDaed | 5 mins (ish) ago |
| 21:41.53 | cupis | how did you manage that? |
| 21:42.12 | ResuDaed | um, trying to get all mp3's on to 1 disk |
| 21:42.24 | cupis | whoops |
| 21:42.42 | ResuDaed | doh |
| 21:49.18 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-122-101-246.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 21:49.24 | ResuDaed | wb Jenson |
| 21:49.27 | Jenson | ty |
| 21:49.32 | Jenson | my computer is mental |
| 21:50.20 | Jenson | I left it to reboot,and when I come back it isn't even swithced on...it's powered itself down and my mum sid it was like that when she came in, but it was rebooting when i left it, fucking thing. |
| 21:50.31 | cupis | your Windows box, your Linux box? |
| 21:50.48 | Jenson | Windows |
| 21:50.51 | ResuDaed | cupis > stupid question really |
| 21:50.55 | Jenson | My Linux box doesn't crash |
| 21:51.05 | cupis | and I quote: |
| 21:51.11 | cupis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.11 | cupis | got my Windows system to run without crashing so now |
| 21:51.15 | Jenson | I had. |
| 21:51.19 | cupis | </quote> |
| 21:51.21 | cupis | :) |
| 21:51.42 | Jenson | I rebooted it coz BT fucked up the net forcing me to reboot to get a working connection....and it powered down during reboot....technically not crashing |
| 21:51.44 | cupis | Jenson: so what happened? |
| 21:51.54 | Jenson | Fuck knows |
| 21:51.58 | Jenson | I really don't care lol |
| 21:52.14 | Jenson | BRB |
| 21:52.18 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host213-122-101-246.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 21:56.26 | ResuDaed | in a sick sense of irony, it was copying 'the clash' when it died |
| 21:57.05 | BorgBaby | it's a shame about him |
| 21:57.25 | ResuDaed | yes, I only got in to their music a couple of weeks ago |
| 21:58.09 | ResuDaed | at present, mp3's are now only 5.8GB |
| 21:58.44 | ResuDaed | much healthier, but if things keep going this way, I'll be needing a new hard disk by em January :( |
| 22:14.01 | BorgBaby | in time for the sales then! ;) |
| 22:16.41 | Tarragon | OhmygoshitisnearlyChristmasandIneedtodosomeChristmasshoppingorelsemylifewillbeover |
| 22:17.16 | ResuDaed | Tarragon: I could do with a couple of 80GB HDD's |
| 22:17.20 | BorgBaby | heh |
| 22:17.32 | BorgBaby | Tarragon: I need a new monitor |
| 22:17.50 | Tarragon | Ah but have you been good! |
| 22:18.11 | ResuDaed | Tarragon: would it be to rude to ask for a raid controller as well? |
| 22:18.16 | ResuDaed | of course |
| 22:18.51 | Tarragon | Did you sit on Santas knee and tell him what you really wanted. |
| 22:19.17 | BorgBaby | I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want... |
| 22:20.10 | Tarragon | It is 10:25 on 23 Dec and I really do need to go shopping. |
| 22:20.46 | ResuDaed | I want a laptop, but my bank account says otherwise |
| 22:20.53 | zachary | Tarragon: You can procrastinate it tell tomarrow. |
| 22:20.57 | cupis | Tarragon: it might be a good idea to wait until tomorrow |
| 22:21.35 | Tarragon | No I really cannot - Now browsing for inspiration. |
| 22:22.32 | ResuDaed | I want 2 80GB HDD's and a RAID controller, BorgBaby wants a new monitor, couldn't say for cupis, but I'm sure it can't be that difficult |
| 22:22.42 | zachary | My fun last year was taking a quick evening walk on Oxford St. on Christmas Eve. God was that ever stupid! |
| 22:23.08 | zachary | ResuDaed: SCSI or ATA? |
| 22:23.16 | ResuDaed | SCSI |
| 22:23.29 | ResuDaed | ideally, ATA would still work though |
| 22:23.49 | cupis | ResuDaed: I've just spent a couple of months getting most of what I want. And then Christmas comes along! :) |
| 22:23.51 | zachary | We can still dream though! |
| 22:23.53 | BorgBaby | zachary: yep, that was stupid! |
| 22:25.01 | Tarragon | What time do off-licenses typically close? |
| 22:25.35 | BorgBaby | 11pm depending |
| 22:26.12 | ResuDaed | dadyals in arnos grove is 24hour |
| 22:26.16 | cupis | Tarragon: 11pm typically |
| 22:26.43 | Tarragon | OK gota run |
| 22:26.56 | ResuDaed | (I used to be an early morning regular in my college days) |
| 22:27.03 | ResuDaed | e? |
| 22:27.09 | ResuDaed | :-S |
| 22:51.16 | ResuDaed_X | can anyone suggest a cd audio -> mp3 ripping software from the command line ... preferably able to use the CDDB |
| 22:51.16 | ResuDaed_X | ? |
| 22:51.28 | *** join/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-7-111-174.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 22:51.42 | Jenson | Well according to my computer I'm not online but here I am lol |
| 22:51.43 | ResuDaed_X | wb Jenson, what happened to BRB? |
| 22:52.50 | ResuDaed_X | according to windows, it is much better to use a 56k modem than a LAN internet connection |
| 22:53.05 | cupis | ResuDaed_X: apt-cache show jack |
| 22:53.46 | *** join/#gllug Jenson_ (Jenson@host62-7-95-251.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 22:54.01 | ResuDaed_X | are you online now? |
| 22:54.05 | *** join/#gllug BorgBaby (~BorgBaby@modem-445.cubone.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 22:54.12 | Jenson | Yeah |
| 22:54.15 | Jenson | Fucking BT |
| 22:54.26 | Jenson | Actually it isn't BT its Windwos |
| 22:54.34 | Jenson | ^Windows |
| 22:54.43 | Jenson | And BRB meant 'spend ages on phone' lol |
| 22:55.23 | ResuDaed_X | cupis: is there a method of searching through the apt lists for software by keywords (ie in the description or something) |
| 22:55.38 | cupis | ResuDaed_X: apt-cache search foo |
| 22:56.30 | Jenson | fuck i got cookie on the floor |
| 22:56.49 | ResuDaed_X | class, I don't need kpackage any more |
| 22:57.14 | ResuDaed_X | (I used to use that for apt searches, but it doesn't work anymore) |
| 22:57.42 | cupis | ResuDaed_X: it doesn't work anymore? |
| 22:58.11 | *** join/#gllug dankolb (~dankolb@host213-122-149-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 22:58.11 | ResuDaed_X | nah, somethig about an unsatisfied dependancies with librpmdb |
| 22:58.28 | dankolb | Evenin' |
| 22:58.49 | ResuDaed_X | evening |
| 22:58.51 | cupis | ResuDaed_X: do you have rpm installed? |
| 22:58.52 | Jenson | hey dan |
| 22:58.58 | cupis | evening dan |
| 22:59.03 | ResuDaed_X | no, but it used to work regardless of that |
| 22:59.22 | ResuDaed_X | installing rpm mght be a good idea, then I don't have to play with the installation for th nvidia drivers |
| 22:59.41 | cupis | ResuDaed_X: install rpm and alien |
| 22:59.46 | ResuDaed_X | alien? |
| 23:00.13 | cupis | alien - install non-native packages with dpkg |
| 23:00.24 | cupis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.30 | cupis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.35 | ResuDaed_X | rpm is already the newest version, must be a broken deb |
| 23:00.54 | dankolb | FreeBSD |
| 23:00.56 | cupis | but I don't think I'd recommend it for nvidia rpm's |
| 23:01.14 | Jenson | No dankolb it wasn't FreeBSD |
| 23:01.14 | ResuDaed_X | Jenson, try http://stolen.servehttp.com/mp3/ ... see if it works yet |
| 23:01.17 | dankolb | Ah |
| 23:01.36 | cupis | ResuDaed_X: hmm, unlikely. Try running kpackage from a konsole/xterm and see if it gives any decent warning/errors |
| 23:01.38 | Jenson | Yeah it works now ResuDaed_X |
| 23:02.10 | ResuDaed | yeah, failed depenacy ... librpmdb.so |
| 23:02.22 | ResuDaed | (I ran it from the command line anyway) |
| 23:03.16 | Jenson | 4.7kb/s not too bad d/l speed for my connection actually |
| 23:03.35 | cupis | ResuDaed: do you have librpm4 installed? |
| 23:03.42 | ResuDaed | no idea |
| 23:03.53 | cupis | and the latest kpackage? |
| 23:03.59 | ResuDaed | latest kpackage |
| 23:04.09 | cupis | ResuDaed: dpkg -l <foo> or apt-cache policy <foo> or dlocate -l <foo> |
| 23:04.22 | cupis | ResuDaed: which distro? |
| 23:04.28 | ResuDaed | Jenson: feel honoured, you have a dedicated connection ... hence decent bandwidth |
| 23:04.44 | ResuDaed | cupis: debian sid (I think) |
| 23:05.07 | cupis | ResuDaed: you think? |
| 23:05.39 | ResuDaed | I think, I am not sure ... all unstable stuff anyway |
| 23:05.44 | Jenson | ResuDaed: OK, I feel honoured lol....I think you can d/l midi files from 2 of my sites but I think I lost the server I was hosting MP3s on. |
| 23:06.31 | ResuDaed | Jenson: they are not all up there, but I have been having issues with mp3's today, so they are floating around on the network somewhere out of harms reach |
| 23:06.44 | ResuDaed | 5.8GB online |
| 23:06.46 | cupis | ResuDaed: /exec -o cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:07.56 | ResuDaed | testing/unstable |
| 23:08.13 | cupis | that reminds me - I should lay a network cable tomorrow. if I can find time to |
| 23:09.02 | ResuDaed | I am adding 'sum41 - does this look infected' at the moment |
| 23:09.17 | cupis | Jenson: maybe you can do both simultaineously |
| 23:09.29 | Jenson | I'm gonna look and see what crap I have on my sites instead lol |
| 23:10.53 | ResuDaed | Jenson: how can you bare an IE6 Windows 98 Combo? |
| 23:11.29 | Jenson | Easy ResuDaed.....I can't stand Linux lol...and I've decided I can't stand Mac or Win XP either |
| 23:12.09 | Jenson | If anyone wants to see a pic of the last cat we had it's at http://www.btinternet.com/~lita16/harryf1.jpg (not sure why it's got f1 in it lol) |
| 23:12.12 | ResuDaed | what's your download speed at the moment? |
| 23:12.15 | cupis | Jenson: tried VMS? or BeOS? AmigaOS?... |
| 23:12.34 | Jenson | No cupis |
| 23:12.41 | dankolb | You should |
| 23:12.43 | Jenson | 4.27kb/s |
| 23:13.00 | ResuDaed | that's not bad considering I only have 128k upstream |
| 23:13.19 | ResuDaed | I reckon I could take a second modem user |
| 23:13.58 | dankolb | A decent ISP? Hah |
| 23:14.26 | ResuDaed | I'd currently have to charge 12.50 / month for flat rate connections at that speed |
| 23:14.33 | Jenson | OMG and a pic of me dressed as baby spice when i was 12 lol |
| 23:14.39 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:14.42 | ResuDaed | Jenson: what url? |
| 23:14.45 | ResuDaed | :-) |
| 23:14.49 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:14.54 | dankolb | Yeah. URL! |
| 23:15.04 | Jenson | hang on lemme chck its that pic lol |
| 23:15.55 | Jenson | http://www.btinternet.com/~lita16/MeChristmas.jpg |
| 23:16.19 | ResuDaed | scary |
| 23:16.26 | Jenson | I know |
| 23:16.52 | Jenson | There is like a million pics of me i dont use on ther |
| 23:16.54 | Jenson | ee |
| 23:17.00 | Jenson | well about 15 at least |
| 23:17.58 | ResuDaed | dankolb: I am now using vi to edit a config file, stand by for my fsck ups :-) |
| 23:18.15 | dankolb | Good luck :) |
| 23:18.23 | cupis | ResuDaed: use vim |
| 23:18.27 | Jenson | Now I've found a rather cool Doom screenshot |
| 23:18.37 | Jenson | I dread to think what's on the webspace I haven't used for ages |
| 23:19.35 | cupis | dankolb: but if you can use vim, you should be able to fall back to vi if the need arises |
| 23:19.48 | ResuDaed | does anyone have a working .jackrc conf file I could borrow? |
| 23:19.58 | dankolb | If you can use vi, vim is an extension of it |
| 23:20.04 | dankolb | And the basic editing keys are the same |
| 23:20.17 | ResuDaed | want to rip mp3s and get cddb info from internet |
| 23:20.27 | Jenson | Shit I forgot, no FTP access on yahoo anymore |
| 23:20.32 | ResuDaed | Jenson: your download finished :-) |
| 23:20.47 | Jenson | I ought to be looking for something to d/l next actually |
| 23:21.31 | Jenson | or going to get some sleep.... |
| 23:21.37 | Jenson | Not sure which is the bette roption |
| 23:21.45 | dankolb | sleep |
| 23:21.54 | ResuDaed | I will be sleeping as soon as I have this jack thing working |
| 23:22.42 | dankolb | Hm. Dabs have finally sent out my order |
| 23:22.55 | dankolb | So, er, Friday's the next working day after Christmas, isn't it? |
| 23:23.18 | ResuDaed | I think so |
| 23:23.48 | ResuDaed | because you had windows installed :) |
| 23:23.51 | Jenson | Note to self - do not randomly click on different settings |
| 23:23.55 | dankolb | does Christmas Eve count as a working day, or not? (at least, with regards to courier companies) |
| 23:24.07 | ResuDaed | technically it is a working day |
| 23:24.15 | cupis | dankolb: with some it does, with others not. |
| 23:24.26 | dankolb | ParcelFarce |
| 23:24.36 | cupis | um ANC are not delivering methinks, but Securior OE should be. |
| 23:24.48 | cupis | dankolb: not sure about PF, but I would guess that they are |
| 23:25.15 | dankolb | I also hope ADSL will be installed. Demon have setup my hostname, but not assigned it an IP address |
| 23:25.22 | dankolb | And they haven't said if it's enabled or not |
| 23:25.47 | Jenson | I've just discovered a nice midi file on my site http://www.geocities.com/kehleyrscastle/mainmusic.mid |
| 23:25.56 | Jenson | One day I'll have my own server.... |
| 23:26.06 | dankolb | They're hassle |
| 23:26.28 | cupis | dankolb: who are? Demon? |
| 23:26.44 | dankolb | No. Servers |
| 23:26.59 | ResuDaed | dankolb: they are not that much hassle |
| 23:27.05 | cupis | dankolb: how so? |
| 23:27.36 | Jenson | If anyone wants any MIDIs I seem to have a few at http://www.geocities.com/kehleyrscastle/midis.htm |
| 23:27.36 | dankolb | Users keep breaking them |
| 23:27.47 | Jenson | That's what users are for dan |
| 23:28.15 | cupis | dankolb: lock them down so that they can't? |
| 23:28.28 | dankolb | s/not// |
| 23:28.44 | cupis | dankolb: PF are delivering tomorrow |
| 23:28.56 | dankolb | Oh that's good. |
| 23:29.04 | cupis | dankolb: sorry, have to take your first answer :) |
| 23:29.33 | cupis | Collections & Deliveries |
| 23:29.37 | cupis | Collections and deliveries will be made as normal on Tuesday 24 December 2002. |
| 23:31.18 | Jenson | AHHHHH evil Duke Nukem MIDI file form that freaky level |
| 23:31.23 | Jenson | s/form/from |
| 23:32.39 | ResuDaed | LOL |
| 23:32.51 | ResuDaed | why me in caps? |
| 23:33.17 | dankolb | cupis: hopefully the stuff will come tomorrow then |
| 23:33.47 | ResuDaed | Jenson: is Jenson your real name? |
| 23:33.56 | cupis | dankolb: what did you order? |
| 23:34.06 | Jenson | no ResuDaed |
| 23:34.07 | dankolb | Wireless ADSL router, and some microfilters |
| 23:34.57 | cupis | wireless? nice |
| 23:35.01 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 23:35.08 | ResuDaed | do you have a real name (other than baby spice)? |
| 23:35.23 | Jenson | I do yeah....and Baby Spice isn't it. |
| 23:35.52 | ResuDaed | and it's not ... |
| 23:35.54 | ResuDaed | bob? |
| 23:36.00 | cupis | Jenson: how about Emma Bunton? |
| 23:36.03 | dankolb | Bob bob bob |
| 23:36.18 | Jenson | Nah not either of those |
| 23:36.35 | Jenson | bob just makes me think of something dirty......but i read too much porn lol |
| 23:36.42 | dankolb | Yeah, you do |
| 23:36.42 | ResuDaed | not Bob, bob or bob, so then bOb? |
| 23:36.49 | cupis | Jacob? Ben? Michelle? Sam? |
| 23:36.58 | ResuDaed | Brian? |
| 23:37.10 | dankolb | We're all individual |
| 23:37.13 | Jenson | ask dankolb he knows |
| 23:37.14 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:37.25 | ResuDaed | dankolb? |
| 23:37.40 | dankolb | She's paranoid like that |
| 23:37.44 | Jenson | lol for fuck sake |
| 23:37.45 | ResuDaed | Jenson said to ask dankolb |
| 23:37.48 | Jenson | my name is Beki |
| 23:37.59 | Jenson | but Jenson is a cool name |
| 23:38.10 | ResuDaed | Jenson is a blokes name is it not? |
| 23:38.23 | Jenson | Well yeah ResuDaed, at least it was til I took it over |
| 23:38.41 | dankolb | Actually, there is a classic computer that was nicknamed Jensen |
| 23:38.49 | ResuDaed | everyone knows my name, age and distribution |
| 23:38.56 | Jenson | I think I knew that dan |
| 23:39.06 | Jenson | ResuDaed: I don't know your distro.... |
| 23:39.11 | dankolb | Deb*an |
| 23:39.17 | Jenson | Oh right |
| 23:39.34 | ResuDaed | ibot who are the deviants |
| 23:39.35 | | ResuDaed: what are you talking about? |
| 23:39.45 | dankolb | I don't mind giving out my own info, though, if people ask for it |
| 23:39.46 | Jenson | I'm Beki, 18, Slackware, Win98 (and Win95 when I get it runniing again) |
| 23:39.51 | dankolb | ibot deviants |
| 23:39.52 | | dankolb: wish i knew |
| 23:39.58 | ResuDaed | lol |
| 23:40.00 | Jenson | ibot ResuDaed |
| 23:40.02 | | it has been said that resudaed is finally using a respectable version of linux |
| 23:40.08 | cupis | dankolb: ibot forgot that... |
| 23:40.23 | ResuDaed | ,ibot does know something about the deviants |
| 23:40.24 | dankolb | Ah yeah |
| 23:40.59 | Jenson | Why is it that ibot says sensible things about everyone except me lol |
| 23:41.09 | dankolb | ibot dankolb |
| 23:41.11 | | i guess dankolb is not a bot |
| 23:41.11 | ResuDaed | *no comment* |
| 23:41.33 | Jenson | I added ones for my mates seb18 and bee earlier |
| 23:41.47 | ResuDaed | ibot seb18 |
| 23:41.49 | | i heard seb18 is a friend of mine. a friend of Jenson's and also a chick. |
| 23:41.57 | Jenson | I fucked that one up lol |
| 23:42.22 | Jenson | ibot Slackware |
| 23:42.24 | | The Slackware distribution. URL: http://www.slackware.com/ |
| 23:42.40 | Jenson | ibot bee |
| 23:42.41 | | hmm... bee is soon going to be converted to a Linux chick by Jenson whether she likes it or not |
| 23:42.53 | ResuDaed | ibot debian is one of the few respectable distros |
| 23:42.56 | | ...but debian is already something else... |
| 23:42.56 | *** join/#gllug dankolb_ (~dankolb@host213-122-84-98.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 23:43.00 | *** join/#gllug cupis_ (~paul@modem-495.dasyure.dialup.pol.co.uk) |
| 23:43.05 | ResuDaed | ibot debian is also one of the few respectable distros |
| 23:43.07 | | ResuDaed: okay |
| 23:43.18 | Jenson | danm ResuDaed beat me to it |
| 23:43.19 | ResuDaed | ibot debian |
| 23:43.24 | | somebody said debian was a Linux-Distribution (http://www.debian.org) or very cool or the best thing since sliced macaroni and cheese, or one of the few respectable distros |
| 23:43.30 | cupis_ | re |
| 23:43.45 | Jenson | ibot ResuDaed also has a thing (about debian) |
| 23:43.47 | | Jenson: i haven't a clue |
| 23:43.54 | Jenson | shiut |
| 23:43.56 | Jenson | oops |
| 23:43.58 | Jenson | lemme do that again |
| 23:44.15 | Jenson | ibot ResuDaed is also has a thing (about debian) |
| 23:44.16 | | okay, Jenson |
| 23:44.23 | Jenson | ibot ResuDaed |
| 23:44.25 | | well, resudaed is finally using a respectable version of linux, or has a thing (about debian) |
| 23:44.37 | ResuDaed | close |
| 23:44.49 | *** join/#gllug dankolb__ (~dankolb@host213-122-181-199.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 23:45.04 | cupis | wb dankolb__ |
| 23:45.05 | ResuDaed | dankolb > having fun? |
| 23:45.13 | Jenson | ibot dankolb is also hates BTinternet |
| 23:45.15 | | Jenson: okay |
| 23:45.25 | ResuDaed | ibot btinternet |
| 23:45.27 | | ResuDaed: I give up, what is it? |
| 23:45.27 | cupis | Jenson: don't ignore it, speak it |
| 23:45.29 | dankolb__ | ibot dankolb |
| 23:45.31 | | from memory, dankolb is not a bot, or hates BTinternet |
| 23:46.01 | Jenson | cupis: If I speak my dirty mind I'd get accused of lowering the tone |
| 23:46.33 | Jenson | ibot Jenson is also a Slackware user (or pretends she has the slightest clue what she's doing) |
| 23:46.35 | | Jenson: okay |
| 23:46.49 | ResuDaed | I think we should all add our opinions about btinternet, dankolb first |
| 23:47.00 | dankolb | Actions speak louder than words |
| 23:47.12 | Jenson | ibot Btinternet is fucked |
| 23:47.13 | | Jenson: please, watch your language. |
| 23:47.17 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:47.18 | ResuDaed | very true, but the course of action has already begun |
| 23:47.20 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:47.29 | Jenson | ibot BTInternet is fscked |
| 23:47.31 | | ...but btinternet is already something else... |
| 23:47.31 | dankolb | With luck, I shouldn't be with them much longer |
| 23:47.31 | cupis | ibot btinternet? |
| 23:47.33 | | it has been said that btinternet is cr*p |
| 23:47.40 | dankolb | ibot demon |
| 23:47.42 | | dankolb: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 23:47.52 | ResuDaed | ibot slackware |
| 23:47.54 | | The Slackware distribution. URL: http://www.slackware.com/ |
| 23:47.54 | dankolb | ibot adsl |
| 23:47.56 | | [adsl] (Asynchronous Digital Subscriber Line) This is a new technology just starting to come out that is the phone company's answer to cable modems. It supports data speeds over 2 Mbps downstream (to the user) and slower speeds upstream (to the Internet). This technology should eventually supplant ISDN if it ever comes down to a reasonable price point. |
| 23:48.39 | cupis | ibot demon is one of the oldest and wisest of all ISP's, and deserves respect. They also do a mean DSL service. :) |
| 23:48.41 | | okay, cupis |
| 23:49.29 | ResuDaed | lol, havn't heard that one before |
| 23:49.50 | cupis | dankolb: which package? express solo? |
| 23:49.59 | dankolb | Er, probably |
| 23:50.11 | dankolb | 25 quid a month, I have to get the equipment myself |
| 23:50.24 | Jenson | I think we are gonna have taught ibot a lot of shit soon |
| 23:50.26 | cupis | dankolb: 50 GBP setup fee? |
| 23:50.33 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 23:50.43 | dankolb | ibot insult the ADSL setup fee |
| 23:50.48 | cupis | ibot jenson? |
| 23:50.50 | | it has been said that jenson is a geek girl, or not in London, or a little crazy, or killing her computer on a regular basis, or innocent and clean-minded, or not, or any number of other things, or having a lot of things added to her profile by the naughty geek guys, or also adding them herself. Red Bull makes her hot, or a Slackware user (or pretends she has the slightest clue what she's doing) |
| 23:51.10 | cupis | ResuDaed: and your upstream is? |
| 23:51.16 | ResuDaed | shite |
| 23:51.42 | cupis | 'nuf said |
| 23:51.56 | cupis | Jenson: so slackware users make you hot? |
| 23:52.01 | ResuDaed | not quite sure why ... |
| 23:52.10 | Jenson | lol cupis it seems to read that way now |
| 23:52.14 | dankolb | So's Leeds |
| 23:52.19 | dankolb | 'nuff said :) |
| 23:52.25 | Jenson | I think ibot added the red bull part by itself |
| 23:52.29 | cupis | lol |
| 23:52.41 | cupis | Jenson: no, i added that |
| 23:52.47 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:53.20 | Jenson | ibot Jenson is also blames cupis for adding the red bull comment and making it read as if Slack users make her hot |
| 23:53.22 | | that's too long, Jenson |
| 23:53.28 | Jenson | fuck |
| 23:53.34 | ResuDaed | all debian users in this room say aye, all slackware users say nay |
| 23:53.40 | dankolb | neigh |
| 23:53.43 | Jenson | nay |
| 23:53.48 | cupis | aye |
| 23:53.50 | ResuDaed | aye |
| 23:53.51 | Jenson | dankolb: you aren't a horse |
| 23:54.04 | cupis | ibot dankolb is a horse |
| 23:54.06 | | ...but dankolb is already something else... |
| 23:54.17 | cupis | ibot: I know |
| 23:54.18 | | i don't know, cupis |
| 23:54.21 | Jenson | ibot dankolb is also a horse |
| 23:54.23 | | okay, Jenson |
| 23:54.27 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:54.37 | cupis | dankolb: go on |
| 23:54.51 | dankolb | Oh yes. |
| 23:54.53 | dankolb | Weren't you? |
| 23:55.11 | cupis | you could go together, you hot slackware users :) |
| 23:55.17 | Jenson | Did I tell you that ResuDaed? |
| 23:55.21 | Jenson | hehehe |
| 23:55.40 | Jenson | Slackware just irritates me, i need someone to calm me down after slack |
| 23:55.47 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:55.57 | ResuDaed | don't know, its what you say to me most nights Jenson |
| 23:55.59 | dankolb | FreeBSD |
| 23:56.23 | Jenson | lol ResuDaed I did tell dankolb I was going to bed early I think |
| 23:56.23 | ResuDaed | I still havn't had any luck with FreeBSD |
| 23:56.28 | dankolb | I have. |
| 23:56.30 | cupis | ibot: dankolb is also has a FreeBSD fetish |
| 23:56.32 | | cupis: okay |
| 23:56.32 | dankolb | Lots of it |
| 23:56.33 | ResuDaed | Jenson: you said it publically |
| 23:56.35 | dankolb | :) |
| 23:56.39 | Jenson | I must go in a mintue ort I'll be half dead tomorrow and I've gotta go into town and get a new phone battery and phone credit |
| 23:57.00 | Jenson | dankolb: You gonna not forget to write me a copy of FreeBSD |
| 23:57.12 | ResuDaed | I am getting an error when I try to boot up the installation |
| 23:57.13 | cupis | using assembler |
| 23:57.19 | Jenson | Only thing I have that's you'd like is Slack 8.1 and you've got that |
| 23:57.21 | dankolb | Oh yeah. |
| 23:57.43 | dankolb | Send me a quick email to dan.kolb@causeway-tech.com |
| 23:57.47 | cupis | dankolb: that's an open invitation, surely... |
| 23:57.48 | dankolb | Now, before you go to bed |
| 23:57.56 | dankolb | What's an open invitation? |
| 23:58.08 | cupis | <Jenson> Only thing I have that's you'd like is Slack 8.1 and you've got that (...) |
| 23:59.01 | ResuDaed | whats a meiler? |
| 23:59.02 | Jenson | Ah emailers already loaded |
| 23:59.11 | Jenson | fuck knows ResuDaed |
| 23:59.13 | ResuDaed | I can't even 'speel' it |
| 23:59.23 | cupis | Jenson: how long does it take for your meialer to load? |
| 23:59.24 | Jenson | cupis.....you mean you have a non dirty mind mode too? |
| 23:59.34 | cupis | Jenson: hmm, good point |
