| 00:00.20 | cupis | pleased not? |
| 00:00.28 | cupis | now? |
| 00:00.49 | Jenson | now |
| 00:00.50 | Jenson | lol |
| 00:00.52 | Jenson | fucking typing |
| 00:01.11 | Jenson | Well Outlook Express has been fucked for aslong as I've used it |
| 00:01.23 | ResuDaed | cupis: I'm having a problem with my Jack, could you help? |
| 00:01.38 | cupis | ResuDaed: um |
| 00:01.42 | ResuDaed | sorry, I think that came out wrong |
| 00:01.44 | cupis | let me install jack first |
| 00:01.44 | ResuDaed | :) |
| 00:01.52 | ResuDaed | no, I jsut need a working conf file |
| 00:01.58 | Jenson | AHHHHH why do I keep accidenlty pressing the quicklaunch button for Moz when I mean IE |
| 00:02.18 | ResuDaed | Jenson: simple answer, uninstall IE |
| 00:02.22 | cupis | Jenson: why do you mean IE? |
| 00:02.35 | Jenson | I hate Netscape.... |
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| 00:03.06 | ResuDaed | I know how you feel, but I have forgotten I ever relied on IE |
| 00:03.12 | cupis | dankolb: was from adsl modem from dabs> |
| 00:03.13 | cupis | ? |
| 00:03.14 | Jenson | hey davilion |
| 00:03.15 | ResuDaed | evening davilion |
| 00:03.16 | dankolb | Yes |
| 00:03.18 | davilion | evening all |
| 00:03.47 | cupis | dankolb: well that are delivering stuff tomorrow - just got a notice of delivery from them |
| 00:04.17 | dankolb | Fingers crossed that ParcelFarce will work |
| 00:04.36 | cupis | evening davilion |
| 00:04.38 | ResuDaed | fsck it, I'll just copy this cd in windows, I really cannot be bothered at this time of night |
| 00:05.26 | davilion | ResuDaed: dd if=/dev/mycdromdrive - cdrecord {options} - |
| 00:05.38 | dankolb | Which is what? |
| 00:05.42 | davilion | s/ - / | / |
| 00:06.03 | Jenson | History |
| 00:06.04 | ResuDaed | davilion: cdaudio -> mp3 |
| 00:06.16 | dankolb | Ah. Well, I never cared about it. |
| 00:06.24 | davilion | grip |
| 00:06.26 | dankolb | It was either that or geography. And I never could stand Geography |
| 00:07.00 | Jenson | dankolb: Why you were doing extracurricular activities I was skipping them to be extracurricular with the guys lol |
| 00:07.44 | ResuDaed | predicted an A in a-level chemistry if it counts |
| 00:07.53 | Jenson | ah clever |
| 00:07.59 | Jenson | I hate chem I'm shit at it |
| 00:08.21 | dankolb | Jenson: Because if I couldn't do that with the guys |
| 00:08.27 | ResuDaed | a-level chemistry consists of getting your head around the basics, the rest tends to fall in to place |
| 00:08.53 | dankolb | ResuDaed: Apart from Organic, which is just learn, learn, learn |
| 00:08.55 | davilion | i would have also got AAB for sys computing, maths, and english if i hadnt left |
| 00:09.23 | ResuDaed | organic is learn to a point yes, but after that, it all makes sense |
| 00:09.23 | Jenson | I don't know what grades I'm predicted |
| 00:09.26 | Jenson | BCC I think |
| 00:09.31 | Jenson | which is totally shit |
| 00:09.37 | ResuDaed | dankolb: well you could, sure wouldn't have been the first @ oxford to do so |
| 00:10.30 | cupis | ResuDaed: okay. jack. |
| 00:10.33 | Jenson | dankolb: was I meant to be emailing you? |
| 00:10.49 | dankolb | Yeah |
| 00:10.51 | ResuDaed | okay |
| 00:11.04 | dankolb | To remind me about FreeBSD |
| 00:11.13 | cupis | ResuDaed: have you tried it without a config file? |
| 00:14.45 | ResuDaed | yes, it writes the config file for me ... |
| 00:14.52 | ResuDaed | *ignore ... |
| 00:16.44 | cupis | ResuDaed: do you have cdparanoia installed? |
| 00:16.54 | cupis | and mp3enc? |
| 00:17.54 | cupis | hmm, mp3enc is dead. try gogo |
| 00:18.06 | ResuDaed | cdparanoia is installed (apparantly), cannot find mp3enc when attempting an apt-get |
| 00:19.07 | cupis | ResuDaed: install gogo, tell ~/.jackrc to use gogo, run jack |
| 00:19.47 | ResuDaed | set gogo as the encoder? |
| 00:20.00 | cupis | ResuDaed: yes |
| 00:20.07 | cupis | encoder = "gogo" |
| 00:21.25 | cupis | should be okay just like that. Else you may have to set up a 'helper' definition |
| 00:22.22 | cupis | or install/use lame |
| 00:23.27 | Jenson | I think I'm gonna get going |
| 00:23.29 | Jenson | See ya guys |
| 00:23.39 | dankolb | 'night Jenson |
| 00:23.42 | dankolb | Err. |
| 00:23.43 | cupis | see ya Jen |
| 00:23.44 | dankolb | Merry Christmas |
| 00:24.00 | Jenson | I'll be back to say Happy Christmas tommorrow |
| 00:24.08 | Jenson | and I'll be back after Christmas dinner too I expect lol |
| 00:24.09 | dankolb | I probably won't |
| 00:24.11 | cupis | Jenson: if anyone else is here :) |
| 00:24.20 | Jenson | lol cupis |
| 00:24.31 | dankolb | Not unless ADSL will work |
| 00:24.39 | Jenson | See ya then guys |
| 00:24.41 | Jenson | Byeeeeeeeeee |
| 00:24.44 | dankolb | byee |
| 00:24.45 | Jenson | And go get some sleep |
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| 00:25.09 | dankolb | Hm. Sleep |
| 00:25.33 | cupis | dankolb: sounds good? |
| 00:25.38 | cupis | ResuDaed: status? |
| 00:25.45 | dankolb | sleep sounds good |
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| 00:29.37 | ResuDaed | opps |
| 00:29.44 | cupis | wb |
| 00:30.00 | ResuDaed | and now I cannot be bothered to start X, too lazy |
| 00:30.19 | ResuDaed | ah well ... jack killed my box |
| 00:30.22 | ResuDaed | :( |
| 00:30.36 | cupis | jack did? or gogo did? |
| 00:30.46 | ResuDaed | don't know |
| 00:30.50 | cupis | try it again |
| 00:31.00 | ResuDaed | laughs? |
| 00:31.07 | ResuDaed | why? |
| 00:31.40 | cupis | in case whatever problem you encountered is easily reproducible |
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| 00:33.05 | ResuDaed | err: could not read cd's TOC |
| 00:33.20 | ResuDaed | (and it is set to use gogo) |
| 00:34.07 | ResuDaed | probably because the ripping process had already started |
| 00:34.30 | cupis | works for me |
| 00:35.15 | ResuDaed | unless anyone has 'sum41 - does this look infected' online for me to leech, I need to rip it |
| 00:35.38 | cupis | need to? |
| 00:35.46 | ResuDaed | yes *need to* |
| 00:36.00 | cupis | ResuDaed: I did apt-get install jack gogo |
| 00:36.17 | ResuDaed | I did the two seperatly |
| 00:36.31 | cupis | ran jack, editted ~/.jackrc, changing encoder from oggenc to gogo, and ran jack - it started ripping... |
| 00:36.40 | cupis | ResuDaed: seperately if fine |
| 00:36.55 | cupis | (truth be told, I did mine seperately0 |
| 00:37.05 | cupis | s,0,), |
| 00:37.24 | dankolb | 'night all, and a Happy Christmas to all those who won't be online before 3pm tomorrow |
| 00:37.28 | ResuDaed | night dankolb |
| 00:37.32 | cupis | oh, metoo |
| 00:37.35 | dankolb | (that's when I finish work, and I don't know when I'll be on next) |
| 00:37.37 | cupis | i should be off soon |
| 00:37.42 | cupis | night dan, Merry Christmas |
| 00:37.47 | dankolb | thanks |
| 00:38.17 | dankolb | go on... |
| 00:38.20 | ResuDaed | solution found ... ripping it as root :-S |
| 00:38.40 | cupis | dankolb: I'm not at a computer long enough... |
| 00:38.50 | BorgBaby | merry xmas dan |
| 00:38.51 | cupis | ResuDaed: /exec -o groups |
| 00:39.03 | dankolb | Ah |
| 00:39.06 | cupis | dankolb: (to make it worth it) |
| 00:39.14 | dankolb | It's always worth it :) |
| 00:39.17 | dankolb | Right. |
| 00:39.18 | dankolb | *gone |
| 00:39.32 | cupis | dankolb: and I ahve to work. |
| 00:40.47 | cupis | ResuDaed: what groups is your user in? |
| 00:41.08 | ResuDaed | ah forget it, it's ripping, that's me happy for now |
| 00:41.27 | cupis | ResuDaed: _for now_ |
| 00:41.54 | ResuDaed | everything necessary for the cd |
| 00:42.10 | cupis | ResuDaed: okay |
| 00:42.22 | ResuDaed | it started as the user, then crashed ... |
| 00:42.40 | cupis | for reference, your user might not be in the cdrom group, which would be necessary under Debian to be able to rip CD's. |
| 00:43.04 | cupis | adduser foo cdrom should fix it for your next login |
| 00:43.21 | cupis | s/foo/<your username>/ |
| 00:43.36 | cupis | I'm off to sleep now as well |
| 00:44.42 | cupis | Merry Christmas, and good night |
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| 01:52.01 | ResuDead | leave cd ripping to the other computer, takes 6 mins 30 to rip/encode an entire cd |
| 07:36.13 | Tarragon | Morning. |
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| 08:57.36 | dank_work | Morning |
| 10:23.40 | Tarragon | Finished - 12 hours of shopping - Christmas is bought so back to work. |
| 10:33.22 | dank_work | Work? At this time of year? |
| 10:36.01 | Tarragon | Yeah! Why not. The one thing I really want for Christmas is more time to play on computers. 26 hours a day is just not enough. |
| 10:36.11 | dank_work | :) |
| 10:36.25 | dank_work | I get fed up of computers after a day at work |
| 10:37.21 | Tarragon | I have had to promise everyone that I won't buy another this week |
| 10:38.32 | Tarragon | Family don't know it but I have enough spare parts to make a few interesting hours of fun when they are all asleep ;-) |
| 10:38.48 | dank_work | Bad Tarragon :) |
| 10:39.07 | dank_work | I have an urge to destroy an old IBM AT |
| 10:39.17 | dank_work | The power supply doesn't work any more, and I need to take the hard drive out of it |
| 10:39.24 | dank_work | So I can just strip it for parts |
| 10:39.28 | Tarragon | After Christmas shopping I treated myself to a new 400W PSU |
| 10:40.32 | dank_work | Hehe |
| 10:40.37 | dank_work | Pressie for yourself? |
| 10:44.58 | Tarragon | Well yes. I am very bad in that if there was anything I wanted during the year I either bought it or it was too expensive to buy. Bought for all family and will spend hours wrapping tonight. But in return I got a PSU, 6 fans and a screwdriver. Later I will download a new distro then I am all set for a week of gluttony and self indulgence (hmmm just like any other week really) |
| 10:46.48 | dank_work | Hehe |
| 10:46.54 | dank_work | What about a different OS ;-) |
| 10:48.42 | dank_work | Eek. I've just realised I've had my laptop for about 6 months now |
| 10:59.00 | Tarragon | Just downloaded Gendist. Now to find a junk laptop to play with. |
| 10:59.50 | dank_work | gendist? |
| 11:01.12 | dank_work | wazzat? |
| 11:04.57 | Tarragon | Distro building system. Make my own unsupported system with just what I want. I want to see just how big it would be for just the tools I use. |
| 11:06.13 | Tarragon | It was a 95K download |
| 11:07.39 | Tarragon | The guy that wrote it had previously produced a bootable recovery CD. So along with BYLD I might get something working. |
| 11:08.10 | dank_work | Cool |
| 11:10.42 | dank_work | Similar to LFS? |
| 11:12.10 | Tarragon | Yes but a little smaller |
| 11:12.22 | dank_work | Try *BSD :) |
| 11:15.25 | skugg | eh, hello |
| 11:15.28 | skugg | :) |
| 11:15.38 | skugg | how's it hanging? |
| 11:15.39 | dank_work | hello skugg |
| 11:16.02 | Tarragon | Morning |
| 11:16.06 | skugg | what a sad christmas this will be.... |
| 11:16.12 | dank_work | How come? |
| 11:16.40 | skugg | 3/4 of my family, including me, has had the shits and puking the last days |
| 11:17.04 | skugg | we're supposed to have christmas dinner today, but nobody feel very hungry ;p |
| 11:17.15 | dank_work | Oh. Sorry to hear that :-/ |
| 11:17.19 | dank_work | Hope you'll be better soon |
| 11:17.30 | skugg | yeah, I hope so too. |
| 11:17.35 | skugg | :) |
| 11:17.38 | Tarragon | Kill the bugs with alcohol |
| 11:17.53 | dank_work | That might work |
| 11:17.56 | skugg | i am _better_ now, but not quite fine yet. |
| 11:18.04 | dank_work | *ABV |
| 11:18.12 | skugg | uh. |
| 11:18.32 | dank_work | It's nice. Good for colds, anyway - kills all the bugs |
| 11:18.37 | skugg | dank_work, that counts as narcotics in norway :P |
| 11:18.51 | skugg | everythyng over 80% does over here |
| 11:19.23 | dank_work | Heh |
| 11:19.28 | dank_work | I've only seen it in Austria |
| 11:19.51 | skugg | i see |
| 11:20.09 | dank_work | I want to get more of it :) |
| 11:20.14 | skugg | :) |
| 11:20.36 | Tarragon | Still if you had to live in Austria you would need something to take you mind off it. |
| 11:20.58 | dank_work | I only got a smallish bottle (330ml, IIRC) as I didn't know if I'd like it or not |
| 11:21.04 | dank_work | :) Austria isn't so bad |
| 11:22.33 | Tarragon | My favourite quote this year was Jeremy Clarkson in the Sunday Times, I should have kept a copy as I now cannot find it but I think it went "Nothing in the world is so bad that living in Germany is better" |
| 11:22.44 | dank_work | :) |
| 11:22.52 | dank_work | Sounds Clarkson-esque |
| 11:24.47 | Tarragon | I was in Munich last week and went into a Spanish Tapas bar. I really need to ask Formi what he would expect in a real Tapas bar. I was expecting lots of different small dishes. Instead we had one chicken steak each |
| 11:25.06 | dank_work | Hm. I thought Tapas was lots of small dishes |
| 11:26.16 | Tarragon | The Italian restaurant was excellent though. |
| 11:26.46 | dank_work | That's good |
| 11:27.10 | dank_work | I'm bored. |
| 11:27.23 | dank_work | I'm reading Garfield and listening to Lord of the Rings |
| 11:30.03 | Tarragon | John Cale - Hallelujah Ogg version and Slashdot |
| 11:45.25 | dank_work | Hm. Slashdot |
| 11:53.18 | Tarragon | Still reading about the DMCA law and how greece and Denmark signed up for it. |
| 11:54.26 | dank_work | Not nice |
| 12:09.55 | Tarragon | OK the Christmas songs on the MP3 Jukebox have just kicked in. |
| 12:10.21 | dank_work | Seasonal. I'm off to Tesco - back later |
| 12:13.01 | Tarragon | L8ers |
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| 12:15.26 | Tarragon | ibot sing |
| 12:15.27 | | ACTION sings off key |
| 12:15.43 | resudaed | afternoon Tarragon |
| 12:16.16 | Tarragon | Afternoon |
| 12:26.16 | Tarragon | Right that's it! Next year I only buy square boxed presents. |
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| 12:33.09 | zachary | Good afternoon and a happy christmas eve! |
| 12:36.17 | Tarragon | Hi Zack - How is the family? |
| 12:37.09 | zachary | We're doing great, Astanzi is getting spoiled this year. |
| 12:37.42 | zachary | How's your side? |
| 12:39.55 | dank_work | back |
| 12:40.24 | resudaed | afternoon again |
| 12:40.44 | dank_work | It's hot here |
| 12:40.46 | Tarragon | Children will be spolit as usual - Although this is now depending on whether they SHUT UP right now or not. |
| 12:43.13 | Tarragon | Sorry about that - one of those precious family moments - Note to self NO more children EVER! |
| 12:43.52 | resudaed | :-) |
| 12:43.52 | zachary | My daughter has been really funny lately. My wife was trying to disiplin her. And Astanzi just giggles and smiles. Wife came to me and says, "I can't take the cuteness make it stop!" |
| 12:44.21 | dank_work | :) |
| 12:44.41 | zachary | Tarragon: They do have a procedure for that. Snip, snip! |
| 12:48.07 | Tarragon | Right now I am soooo tempted. |
| 12:50.15 | dank_work | 2 hours left |
| 13:09.30 | dank_work | Bwurgh |
| 13:09.59 | Tarragon | ?? |
| 13:14.02 | dank_work | I'm bored |
| 13:14.12 | dank_work | Maybe I should do some work... |
| 13:37.48 | Tarragon | Depends on what needs doing |
| 13:40.21 | dank_work | Some stuff that I can't be bothered |
| 13:40.45 | dank_work | Plus I've forgotten the CDs with the firewalls on them, and I need duct tape to tie network cables down |
| 13:40.49 | Tarragon | Now playing Jona Lewie - Stop the Cavalry and Jethro Tull - Solstice bell very loud - Only time I can get away with it. |
| 13:41.02 | dank_work | At the same time? |
| 13:41.10 | Tarragon | looped |
| 13:43.21 | zachary | Tarragon: What size is your mp3/ogg collection? |
| 13:45.13 | Tarragon | Hard disk - close to 80GB juke-box - CD - 100GB+ Mind you SpudUAway's is bigger. I just consider my the tasteful end of the scale. Some of his is weird! |
| 13:48.47 | dank_work | :) |
| 13:52.00 | Tarragon | Everyone says that they have an eclectic music taste because they like some odd albums. The word does describe Spud. It is fantastic getting a CD off him because it is like a new world. Admittedly some are so odd you wince but others are amazing. I once heard a 20 second loop he had made of swan lake perfect. |
| 13:52.26 | dank_work | Hehe |
| 13:53.06 | Tarragon | I could not workout what he had done or why until I actual heard it. |
| 13:53.33 | zachary | lol, sounds interesting!! |
| 13:55.14 | Tarragon | He must have done it ten years before Techno was mainstream |
| 13:56.51 | zachary | Spud the music revolutionary! Wouldn't suprise me. |
| 13:58.41 | Tarragon | He is also really into Radio comedy |
| 14:01.34 | dank_work | Radio comedy is good |
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| 14:05.22 | ResuDaed | ooh, SegFault, first on this install |
| 14:05.33 | dank_work | :) |
| 14:05.37 | dank_work | Congrats |
| 14:05.48 | ResuDaed | about time I got some new ram then |
| 14:05.52 | dank_work | Yep |
| 14:06.49 | ResuDaed | I now call myself a die hard linux user ... I have disabled the graphical login, and only startx when I need it |
| 14:07.09 | ResuDaed | :) |
| 14:07.15 | dank_work | :) |
| 14:07.38 | dank_work | Most Unices actually have booted into graphical logins for the last 10 years or more |
| 14:07.39 | dank_work | :) |
| 14:08.52 | ResuDaed | I know, but I prefere a text based login ... that way when I'm doing it from halfway around the world on a laptop, hacking in to the local phone system, routing my call through 3 or more US government satellites, I know what to expect at the login screen |
| 14:09.20 | dank_work | :) Fair enough |
| 14:09.37 | dank_work | I tend to use text-based logins, and just run startx |
| 14:10.27 | ResuDaed | I am quite happy now I can run 2 sessions of X at the same time |
| 14:10.39 | dank_work | That's useful why exactly? |
| 14:12.38 | ResuDaed | on the first session I have blackbox, I use it to read emails/irc/browse etc. the second I use fvwm2 ... this is useful for graphics and stuff |
| 14:12.56 | ResuDaed | and mass browsing which I do every now ang again |
| 14:13.45 | ResuDaed | I am one of those people who is logged in 5 times at once ... multi tasking :) |
| 14:14.12 | dank_work | Why isn't blackbox useful for graphics? |
| 14:14.58 | ResuDaed | it isn't *not* usful for graphics, but my screen is currently limited to 1024x768, so is quite a small workspace |
| 14:15.16 | dank_work | So you've got panning on one server? |
| 14:15.28 | ResuDaed | yes |
| 14:15.43 | dank_work | Ah. Okay |
| 14:15.51 | ResuDaed | only because I can is a more common excuse than because I need it |
| 14:16.26 | ResuDaed | (if the truth be told) |
| 14:16.35 | dank_work | :) |
| 14:17.55 | ResuDaed | I have yet to find the be all and end all of window managers, if I don't find it soon, I'll have to write it myself |
| 14:18.09 | ResuDaed | (a good way to learn) |
| 14:18.17 | dank_work | Hah. They're not that easy to write |
| 14:18.21 | dank_work | What do you want from one? |
| 14:18.52 | ResuDaed | not quite sure yet, but something a lot more orrigional than what I've seen so far :) |
| 14:19.07 | dank_work | It'd help if you know what you want before you start writing it :) |
| 14:19.28 | ResuDaed | if I were to write one, it'd start basic, and would (in the stylie of RedHat) be re-released with a new version every couple of months |
| 14:22.41 | dank_work | :) |
| 14:28.33 | ResuDaed | time to sort out some new ram |
| 14:31.14 | dank_work | wb |
| 14:31.23 | ResuDaed | ooh, desperation ... pcworld for ram :( |
| 14:31.27 | ResuDaed | ty |
| 14:33.06 | dank_work | What about Dabs, and wait until after Christmas? |
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| 14:33.25 | dank_work | Hello, clone |
| 14:33.34 | tom__ | hi |
| 14:35.00 | ResuDaed | is it me, or does almost everyone have something better to do that irc on christmas eve? |
| 14:35.15 | ResuDaed | (it is christmas eve isn't it?) |
| 14:35.45 | dank_work | It is. |
| 14:35.55 | dank_work | Yeah, most of us have better things to do. I'm still at work |
| 14:37.36 | ResuDaed | ah well, I wish I was at work ... been 6 months since I actually had a real job (ie not bar work) |
| 14:37.45 | dank_work | :-/ |
| 14:38.58 | ResuDaed | such is life |
| 14:40.44 | ResuDaed | for a laugh, I've added /home/httpd/mp3 to my mp3 playlist |
| 14:41.02 | ResuDaed | total play time = 89h 1m 3s |
| 14:41.55 | dank_work | :) |
| 14:42.27 | ResuDaed | did you see what that dir did to my hard drive yesterday? (http://stolen.servehttp.com/opps.png) |
| 14:43.15 | dank_work | Heh :) |
| 14:47.52 | ResuDaed | my problem is this ... I want to let a script run wild sorting/renaming my mp3's in to dirs by their idv3 tag, but I havn't got back up space ... nor the time to copy them on to another machine at 10MBps |
| 14:48.01 | ResuDaed | ^Mbps |
| 14:48.18 | ResuDaed | :-( |
| 14:53.49 | dank_work | Copy them overnight |
| 14:54.06 | ResuDaed | and *work* on christmas day? |
| 14:54.53 | ResuDaed | do you know a way I can copy from one machine to another with a badnwidth restriction of say 5Mbit? |
| 14:55.14 | dank_work | Don't know |
| 14:55.25 | dank_work | Maybe rsync has a bandwidth limit option? |
| 14:55.27 | ResuDaed | (so that nobody notices anythings being put on their computer) |
| 14:55.47 | ResuDaed | from a local partition to a samba mount |
| 14:56.07 | dank_work | --bwlimit=KBPS limit I/O bandwidth, KBytes per second |
| 14:56.12 | dank_work | (from rsync --help) |
| 14:56.27 | ResuDaed | rsync needs an rsync server does it not? |
| 14:56.34 | dank_work | Nope |
| 14:56.45 | dank_work | It can run over ssh, or, it seems, even locally |
| 14:56.56 | ResuDaed | will have a look at this option |
| 14:57.10 | dank_work | rsync -r mp3/* /mnt/samba/mp3store/ --bwlimit=1024 |
| 14:57.10 | ResuDaed | I was going to write a program to send it bit by bit at a given rate per second, but that'll be a real cpu hog |
| 14:57.16 | dank_work | yeah |
| 14:57.23 | dank_work | Something like that might work |
| 14:57.31 | dank_work | (the rsync line that is) |
| 14:57.36 | ResuDaed | :) |
| 14:57.55 | dank_work | Tools for the jobs, remember. Don't write your own if the facilities you need already exist |
| 14:58.00 | Trel | rsync will need a sever for the bwlimit option I think |
| 14:58.18 | Trel | at least I've never had much joy without one with that option |
| 14:59.04 | ResuDaed | the theory is that if nobody notices the internet is slow (only 512K anyway) then nobody will complain ... nobody will notice that I'm using 6GB or so of their hard disk |
| 14:59.26 | dank_work | From what the man page implies, rsync does the bandwidth limiting on the client end, not the server end |
| 15:00.50 | ResuDaed | has anyone noticed any problems with ftp.uk.debian.org? |
| 15:02.02 | dank_work | A lot of people |
| 15:02.15 | dank_work | Try ftp.fi.debian.org or ftp.de.debian.org |
| 15:02.16 | ResuDaed | other than the fact it seems to keep disappearing from the face of the earth |
| 15:02.23 | dank_work | That's the usual complaint |
| 15:02.28 | dank_work | Blame Phil Hands' ISP |
| 15:02.35 | ResuDaed | I have mirror.ac.uk as a second mirror |
| 15:02.44 | ResuDaed | just takes ages to timeout |
| 15:03.45 | dank_work | ah |
| 15:03.54 | dank_work | mirror.ac.uk is good |
| 15:04.41 | ResuDaed | the only reason I keep ftp.uk.debian.org is that mirror.ac.uk is about 72 hours behind (I think) |
| 15:06.45 | dank_work | That much? |
| 15:06.57 | dank_work | Just use ftp.fi.debian.org then - other people do |
| 15:07.23 | ResuDaed | I may do |
| 15:07.59 | dank_work | Right, well. |
| 15:08.00 | dank_work | I'm off now |
| 15:08.12 | ResuDaed | have a good christmas |
| 15:08.15 | dank_work | Have a happy Christmas, and I'll see you when I'm back online |
| 15:08.23 | ResuDaed | laters |
| 15:12.26 | ResuDaed | rsync -rv ../httpd/mp3/* /net/pb/c/mp3 --bwlimit=256 |
| 15:12.29 | ResuDaed | did the trick |
| 15:13.00 | ResuDaed | 6 GB to transfer at 256KB/s :-) |
| 15:50.21 | ResuDaed | I have found a backup of my old harddisk that died last month (I didn't know such things existed) ... can only hope it was before the corruption started |
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| 18:49.36 | murble | good evening |
| 18:50.39 | Jenson | hey murble |
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| 21:08.59 | highbury | Seasonal Greetings! |
| 21:33.31 | zachary | Good evening highbury, happy holidays! |
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| 22:04.42 | zachary | good evening Jenson |
| 22:04.48 | Jenson | hey zachary |
| 22:04.49 | highbury | anything been happening for the last few days. I've been battling with my Modem/USB connection. |
| 22:04.56 | highbury | Hi Jenson |
| 22:04.58 | Jenson | hey highbury |
| 22:05.26 | zachary | nothing to much. pretty quiet. |
| 22:06.27 | highbury | s/and in/and is in |
| 22:06.58 | zachary | highbury: ok darth. |
| 22:08.38 | highbury | (8<) |
| 22:08.45 | Jenson | highbury: I've decided I don't like XP |
| 22:09.16 | Jenson | I've decided I don't like Linux either.....but unlike XP I will like Linux again tomorrow when I can be arsed to look at it again |
| 22:09.18 | highbury | Its harmless. and it works better than win9x |
| 22:09.33 | highbury | buy a Mac! |
| 22:09.40 | Jenson | I don't understand Macs lol |
| 22:10.34 | highbury | they're all just computers, same old same old. just different complexity hiding capabilities |
| 22:10.34 | Jenson | 1MBps.....nice I get 5kbps when trying to d/l isos.....great fun :) |
| 22:11.10 | Jenson | I'm sleepy.....I don't think I could deal with anything other than Win9x right now |
| 22:11.43 | highbury | allegedly, I'm downloading 3 of the RedHat Beta iso's simultaneously at 37KB/s !!! |
| 22:12.20 | Jenson | I'm gonna have to get a job (as the say 'will work for bandwidth' lol) |
| 22:12.25 | highbury | jenson: what irc client are you using? |
| 22:12.28 | Jenson | s/the/they |
| 22:12.31 | Jenson | Xhcat |
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| 22:13.08 | Jenson | hey zewwwt |
| 22:13.11 | zewwwt | hey |
| 22:13.21 | highbury | ahh, I'm using Trillian at the moment, its Instant Messenger clone, supports IRC, MSN, ICQ, AIM, etc |
| 22:13.21 | zewwwt | how yu been |
| 22:13.32 | zewwwt | yu could use amsn for msn |
| 22:13.48 | Jenson | highbury: My experience of those things that support them all is I don't like them |
| 22:14.12 | Jenson | Besides I gave up yahoo, ICQ and AIM...just use MSN now (on odd occasions) |
| 22:14.36 | zewwwt | he he |
| 22:18.40 | Jenson | We've gone all quiet... |
| 22:19.09 | zewwwt | it says the next meet is on 18 jan. on site it doesnt say wer?? |
| 22:19.57 | Jenson | Westminster University I think |
| 22:20.43 | zewwwt | ok thx. will check back later on site. |
| 22:20.56 | zachary | Westminster University on New Cavendish St. |
| 22:21.25 | zewwwt | ok thx |
| 22:22.42 | highbury | I'll be updating the website next week, but am just waiting for confirmation on speakers |
| 22:23.17 | zewwwt | oh ok. was the last meet good?? |
| 22:25.13 | zachary | zewwwt: The talk about LVM was very interesting. I was in one of the computer labs for the rest of the time. |
| 22:26.31 | Jenson | I won't understand anything the speakers are talking about so I'll probably loiter like a loner in one of the labs. |
| 22:26.48 | Jenson | Mind you I should be brining 2 mates so that'll be OK |
| 22:28.57 | zewwwt | will b the 1st time i attend. im excited. |
| 22:29.21 | Jenson | Yeah me too |
| 22:29.43 | Jenson | If I'm there and I bring 2 mates then that'll be 3 girls |
| 22:30.06 | zewwwt | ok. |
| 22:30.36 | zewwwt | wer could i purchase a cheap but large hdd |
| 22:31.03 | Jenson | Can't say I know much about good HDD prices. |
| 22:31.39 | zewwwt | there is this shop in watford. i think bout £40 for 40 or 60 gig. |
| 22:31.53 | zewwwt | but i dnt trust the |
| 22:31.54 | zachary | across the street from the university is a computer fair. Prices are not that bad. |
| 22:32.33 | zewwwt | ok thx. |
| 22:32.41 | murble | I don't trust computer fairs for disks |
| 22:33.03 | Jenson | Nah I wouldn't either murb |
| 22:33.13 | zewwwt | no where else to get cheap ones |
| 22:33.15 | Jenson | unless I was buying a small cheap disc |
| 22:33.35 | zewwwt | im lookin for large but a 4 gig will do |
| 22:34.06 | zewwwt | would it be wise to purchase smaller hdd at fair?? |
| 22:34.26 | Jenson | I know they were charging £8 for 1GB last fair I was at.....but I wasn't actually looking for them so I didn't pay attention |
| 22:34.50 | zewwwt | ok |
| 22:35.13 | Jenson | Actually that wasn't the last fair I was, it was apretty shit one in Thetford where evrything appeared overpriced |
| 22:36.02 | zewwwt | bout the ones at totenham court rd?? |
| 22:36.16 | Jenson | I've never been to them. |
| 22:36.20 | murble | zewwwt: a 4gb disk is likly to be second hand and thus is thefore probably about to die. |
| 22:37.04 | murble | zewwwt: off on both sides of the road at the norht end just past the american church towards euston |
| 22:37.21 | zewwwt | how much would a nu 4g hdd cost? |
| 22:37.28 | Jenson | do they make new ones? |
| 22:37.36 | zachary | zewwwt: I think the min. size of a new HDD is 10GB. |
| 22:37.54 | zewwwt | fuck. how much yu reckon they'd cost?? |
| 22:38.28 | Jenson | I wouldn't mind a 20GB....but I'll just wait til my dad gets a new computer and then have this one (he can have his damn new XP machine aslong as I can have this to dual boot Linux and Win98) |
| 22:40.34 | murble | look at scams site for an idea of howmuch you shouldn't pay |
| 22:40.54 | zewwwt | ok thx |
| 22:41.05 | murble | some things at the computer fairs are way overpriced, the other week someone was trying to sell a cisco 250X for 350 quid! |
| 22:41.43 | zachary | just checked dirtcheapdrives.com, nothing below 20GB @ 43 GBP |
| 22:41.55 | Jenson | Last fair I was at I bought a computer...the one I've got slack on. |
| 22:42.18 | murble | as for buying stuff new i've not had problems with http://www.rlsupplies.co.uk/ |
| 22:46.47 | zewwwt | thx alot for your help. speak soon. tc. |
| 22:49.24 | zachary | gotta go, good night! |
| 22:52.23 | murble | go to university then :) |
| 22:52.40 | Jenson | :) |
| 22:52.54 | Jenson | I will, but I gotta go back to school in September first |
| 22:53.14 | Jenson | I'm just in a mood to whinge about lack of bandwidth today |
| 22:53.29 | murble | Jenson: can't you do a foundation course at a local uni/college? |
| 22:53.51 | Jenson | murble: Probably but I should finish my A levels |
| 22:54.56 | murble | are you doing thesee new fucked up ones? |
| 22:55.08 | Jenson | what the AS levels you mean? |
| 22:55.37 | murble | I think, they also seem to have changed the points system for getting into uni as welll. |
| 22:56.24 | Jenson | yeah they have |
| 22:57.07 | murble | what as levels are/were you studying? |
| 22:58.09 | Jenson | history, biology geography |
| 23:01.33 | murble | scary, well other than the advanced map colouring :) |
| 23:02.05 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:03.58 | Jenson | On Demon ADSL setup is £100 cheaper when aimed at 'technical literate users' who can set it up themselves |
| 23:08.48 | murble | that is just wires only standard thing. |
| 23:09.13 | Jenson | yea |
| 23:09.32 | murble | I think the wholesale price is being cut in half from bt from mid jan so everyone is doing discounted installs atm |
| 23:09.48 | murble | and many ISPs now only commit you for 1 month. |
| 23:10.17 | Jenson | It'll soon go down in price when they realize evetyone isn't gone mad to get it |
| 23:12.27 | murble | how much is the current setup free? |
| 23:12.31 | murble | s/free/fee/ |
| 23:13.19 | Jenson | £150 |
| 23:14.49 | Jenson | my mate is online, she's all excited about christmas and I'm like 'oh yeah, I forgot' |
| 23:16.53 | murble | I don't know how people get excited about it. |
| 23:17.08 | murble | well unless they're 5 or somthing. |
| 23:17.22 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:18.01 | Jenson | I worked ount it's still about £55 cheaper with ADSL if you get your own modem and filters....or are most people too lazy to research in the first place? |
| 23:18.36 | Jenson | my mate cant sleep coz she's so excited....she's 18 for fuck sake |
| 23:19.03 | murble | Jenson: well you can buy for 50 quid a PCI card that'll work under linux as the odem, then 5 quid for a uFilter |
| 23:19.36 | Jenson | If I got ADSL I'd put it on the Win98 system |
| 23:19.45 | Jenson | I've gotta extend the damn phone lines into my room |
| 23:20.09 | murble | Jenson: why not get a small linux box and use that as a router? |
| 23:20.20 | Jenson | Not that Linux seems to have noticed my modem even exists...I think I'll get the dialup sorted before I contemplae ADSL on my linux machine |
| 23:20.31 | murble | :) |
| 23:20.33 | Jenson | murble: Coz I know nothing about computers... |
| 23:20.50 | murble | yeahyeahyeah. |
| 23:21.17 | Jenson | Well it's true |
| 23:23.09 | Jenson | I'm gonna go to bed now |
| 23:23.11 | Jenson | time to sleep |
| 23:23.31 | murble | next you'll say you don't have bed irc :p |
| 23:23.33 | Jenson | see ya |
| 23:23.37 | Jenson | lol |
| 23:23.38 | Jenson | i dont |
| 23:23.38 | murble | nn |
| 23:23.44 | Jenson | But I will everntually |
| 23:23.57 | Jenson | bedirc isn't helpful when I want to sleep anyway |
| 23:24.02 | Jenson | Happy Christmas everyone |
| 23:24.05 | Jenson | night murb |
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