| 00:02.35 | zimm | got a link ? |
| 00:02.57 | Jenson | Nope someone transfered it to me....I can dcc though |
| 00:03.16 | zimm | ok , .. all i can find is downfall , or Running from me .. |
| 00:03.21 | Jenson | k |
| 00:05.48 | Jenson | I've dust noticed I've got another little papercut type thing on my hands...it's that damn computer hardware I think... |
| 00:05.53 | Jenson | s/dust/just |
| 00:06.26 | resudaed_yawa | evening |
| 00:06.34 | Jenson | heya resudaed_yawa |
| 00:06.46 | zimm | evening resudaed |
| 00:06.50 | zachary | evening resudaed |
| 00:06.53 | resudaed | hi Jenson |
| 00:06.56 | resudaed | hi zimm |
| 00:07.03 | resudaed | hi zachary |
| 00:07.33 | cupis | resudaed: did you have to spell away backwards as well? lol |
| 00:07.40 | resudaed | :) |
| 00:07.44 | Jenson | Yeah true resudaed |
| 00:07.46 | cupis | resudaed: Micro? |
| 00:07.46 | resudaed | evening cupis |
| 00:07.57 | cupis | resudaed: morning |
| 00:08.01 | Jenson | Although it isn't as bad as Yahoo or AOL or ICQ |
| 00:08.15 | resudaed | good point ... although in my mind it is mid afternoon |
| 00:08.45 | cupis | resudaed: heh, you should try sleeping at night instead of during the morning :) |
| 00:09.19 | Jenson | resudaed: you're like my ex boy/f....sleeps at weird times |
| 00:09.38 | cupis | zimm: I'm a KDE3 junkie, and I use kopete :) |
| 00:09.44 | cupis | zimm: I'm a KDE3 junkie, and I use gaim :) |
| 00:10.03 | resudaed | whenh I'm tired I sleep |
| 00:10.08 | cupis | in fact, for a KDE user, I use surprisingly few kde apps |
| 00:10.14 | resudaed | I'm a *box junkie and I use gaim |
| 00:10.38 | Jenson | I'd rather get out of bed late and go to bed late....being awake when everyone else is asleep has the benefit of you can play music as loud as you want and chat as much as you want |
| 00:10.45 | cupis | zimm: my mind thought gaim, my hands typed kopete :) |
| 00:11.08 | cupis | Jenson: don't you wake them? |
| 00:11.09 | zimm | heh |
| 00:11.20 | resudaed | :-) kde3 never really considered kde3 ... too much user friendly (micr?soft) stylie (IMHO) |
| 00:11.35 | zachary | I'm a KDE3 junkie who uses vi. That's like walking into McDonald's and ordering a double cheese-burger, Super-size fries, and a diet coke. :-) |
| 00:11.44 | cupis | kde3 never really considered kde3 - that's logic for you |
| 00:11.57 | Jenson | cupis: Nope......they only whinge if I keep them awake, but once they're asleep they don't seem to notice |
| 00:12.06 | Jenson | I like Win98 and 95 and 3.1....but not XP |
| 00:12.23 | cupis | Jenson: hmm, heavy sleepers |
| 00:12.45 | Jenson | For some reason I thought that said 'harry hands zachary vim' I think I'm sleepy lol |
| 00:12.59 | zachary | Thanks cupis but I like the transparent shell window. |
| 00:13.07 | cupis | Jenson: who is harry? |
| 00:13.26 | resudaed | for some reason transparancy doesn't work on black box ... shame really |
| 00:13.30 | Jenson | cupis: I used to have a cat called harry but other than that I don't have a clue lol |
| 00:13.33 | zimm | vim ? vi ? bah kvim for ever ! |
| 00:14.37 | zachary | resudaed: That's the purpose of blackbox. It is designed to be a lightweight wm. |
| 00:14.59 | cupis | resudaed: I switch between the three I mentioned and ion, but seem to gravitate towards kde |
| 00:15.09 | Jenson | Fuck MSN! grrrrr |
| 00:15.49 | resudaed | I went off kde & gnome when I found the equivilant to windows start menus |
| 00:16.13 | Jenson | cupis: That wouldn't solve it....the other person got disconnected at the end of a 151k transfer that had decided to take about 5 mins lol |
| 00:16.31 | cupis | oh |
| 00:16.34 | resudaed | Jenson ... tell them to get on irc and dcc it |
| 00:16.50 | cupis | or ftp/mail it |
| 00:16.50 | Jenson | resudaed: I doubt he'd know how to do that |
| 00:17.04 | cupis | Jenson: surely they could email it, though? |
| 00:17.10 | Jenson | yeah |
| 00:17.12 | resudaed | email ... good point |
| 00:17.32 | Jenson | Not that I really care who my online mate is gonna meet and shag, it's up yo him. |
| 00:17.53 | cupis | huh? |
| 00:17.55 | resudaed | unless it were to be you? |
| 00:18.21 | cupis | Jenson: they were sending you a 151k list? |
| 00:18.31 | Jenson | nope pic |
| 00:18.54 | cupis | heh |
| 00:18.59 | resudaed | :-) cupis ... the list was written in MS word |
| 00:19.25 | cupis | resudaed: I'd have been worried if it was plain text :) |
| 00:19.33 | cupis | that's a lorra lorra people |
| 00:19.34 | Jenson | dankolb says hi |
| 00:19.54 | cupis | Jenson: tell him hi back, please |
| 00:20.07 | Jenson | yeah i did |
| 00:20.28 | Jenson | he says thx |
| 00:20.40 | cupis | so Jenson, you never explained why you were happy atm... |
| 00:20.56 | Jenson | no i didn't |
| 00:21.04 | resudaed | probably danlkolb |
| 00:21.25 | Jenson | lol |
| 00:21.32 | Jenson | probably |
| 00:21.42 | cupis | did I miss sth? |
| 00:21.54 | Jenson | obviously..... |
| 00:22.06 | cupis | hmm |
| 00:22.11 | cupis | nm |
| 00:23.26 | resudaed | well, 4.1 I am using analogueoutput and don't have enough sockets for the centre speaker |
| 00:26.03 | resudaed | :( music stopped |
| 00:26.55 | cupis | night all |
| 00:27.04 | Jenson | night cupis |
| 00:27.16 | resudaed | night ... dream theatre - overture 1928 (classic) |
| 00:27.39 | resudaed | one of their finest |
| 00:28.14 | zimm | dream theatre ?!!? |
| 00:28.18 | zimm | they fsckin ROCK . |
| 00:28.25 | zimm | the guitarist is a genius |
| 00:28.34 | zimm | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.54 | resudaed | I have a few (only a few) @ http://stolen.servemp3.com |
| 00:29.16 | zimm | i have like a 15 minute solo he did live mid set .. |
| 00:29.28 | zimm | its awesome |
| 00:30.00 | Jenson | well i'm gonna go now |
| 00:30.06 | resudaed | I have a 5 min drum solo |
| 00:30.12 | resudaed | ok, night Jenson |
| 00:30.15 | Jenson | night all |
| 00:30.19 | zachary | night Jenson |
| 00:30.22 | zimm | laters Jenson |
| 00:30.30 | resudaed | zimm: you seen them live? |
| 00:30.38 | zimm | resudaed: nah .. i wish |
| 00:30.41 | *** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-7-110-232.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 00:30.56 | resudaed | I saw them at the hammersmith apollo last Jan ... fscking amazing |
| 00:31.12 | resudaed | shite venue ... wicked gig |
| 00:31.30 | zimm | lol , im quite suprised to find someone else who has heard of them . |
| 00:32.13 | resudaed | you are the second person I have ever met (other than those who introduced them to me) that knows even WhoTF they are :) |
| 00:32.27 | zimm | heh |
| 00:32.50 | zimm | well, we do have spookily similar eclectic taste in music it has to be said |
| 00:32.55 | resudaed | now ... 'pull me under' ... the few uncorrupted mp3's I have managed to recover from my old hdd |
| 00:33.02 | resudaed | very true |
| 00:34.26 | resudaed | all I have is @ http://stolen.servemp3.com/dream%20theatre/ |
| 00:34.46 | zimm | resudaed: getting them now :-) |
| 00:34.54 | resudaed | (I used to have a load on tape, but I have since lost that) |
| 00:35.04 | zimm | yeh , all mine was on tape |
| 00:35.42 | resudaed | you are on 128k downstream right? |
| 00:35.48 | zimm | yeh |
| 00:35.55 | resudaed | (I'm on 128k up) |
| 00:35.59 | zachary | resudaed: just catching up on my reading, but Dream Theatre rocks. Have a few of their cds. |
| 00:36.14 | resudaed | lol, just as well I don't really want to do any hard ocre net usage |
| 00:36.19 | zimm | i thought so ,, usually i can pull 30-40 with multiple d'loads resudaed |
| 00:36.26 | resudaed | ah, the 3rd person |
| 00:36.39 | zimm | quick ... |
| 00:36.42 | zimm | tie them down |
| 00:36.47 | resudaed | 30-40kB? |
| 00:36.52 | zimm | we nearly have a fan-base stablished ! |
| 00:37.03 | zimm | resudaed: yeh |
| 00:37.27 | resudaed | that is slightly over 128kB ... more like 3-400 or so I'd reckon |
| 00:37.33 | zimm | aye :-) |
| 00:37.34 | resudaed | (kb) |
| 00:37.44 | zimm | my cable modem lives inside a set top box ,, |
| 00:37.47 | zimm | and its err .. |
| 00:37.50 | zimm | stupid :-) |
| 00:38.00 | resudaed | the drum solo is fscked |
| 00:38.12 | zimm | it only throttles each connection hehe |
| 00:38.21 | resudaed | lol |
| 00:38.27 | *** join/#gllug davilion (davilion@irvines.plus.com) |
| 00:38.42 | resudaed | I can't hit over 70kB even on multiple connections, 60 usually |
| 00:38.54 | resudaed | davilion: do you know dream theatre? |
| 00:39.13 | davilion | no what is it? |
| 00:39.24 | resudaed | damn, I was looking for some mp3 |
| 00:40.05 | zachary | resudaed: which ones? |
| 00:40.29 | resudaed | as many as possible ... I lost loads when my hdd went down |
| 00:40.56 | zachary | I've just ripped 15GB over the last week. |
| 00:41.10 | resudaed | hollow years and drum solo are now marked for deletion (cannot have corrupt files on a public http directory) |
| 00:41.12 | zachary | now ripping images and words. |
| 00:41.52 | resudaed | zimm ... drum solo, hollow years and long island expressway |
| 00:41.58 | resudaed | not looking healthy |
| 00:42.02 | zimm | hmm# |
| 00:42.21 | resudaed | that means that there are potentially another 3 G of corrupted mp3s |
| 00:42.28 | resudaed | time to hide some dirs |
| 00:42.32 | zimm | :-( , bummer |
| 00:42.59 | resudaed | overture, P8ull Me under & rush are ok |
| 00:43.28 | zachary | resudaed: I should have those ripped by tomarrow. |
| 00:43.41 | resudaed | zachary: you on bt's narrow band? |
| 00:43.46 | zachary | adsl |
| 00:44.04 | resudaed | ah good, you have twice my upstream |
| 00:44.27 | resudaed | maybe our fan base should include mirroring mp3's :-) |
| 00:44.42 | davilion | anybody fancy another mp3 swappy sometime in the not too distant future? |
| 00:44.43 | zachary | do you need anything off of awake & a change of season? |
| 00:44.44 | zimm | i'll see if i can extract keyboard and guitar solo's from my tape collection |
| 00:45.06 | resudaed | davilion: wait for me to get another hard drive please |
| 00:45.15 | resudaed | and see if you can find a 100MBit switch |
| 00:45.35 | davilion | resudaed: the switch aint a problem i can get a gb switch |
| 00:45.55 | resudaed | yeah, but that requires gb cards |
| 00:45.56 | resudaed | o/wise 100MBit is pleanty |
| 00:45.56 | davilion | we cvan use my flat as a venue next time if you like, its not in london but its got space |
| 00:46.15 | resudaed | ok, as long as you provide sleeping space :-) |
| 00:46.22 | davilion | resudaed: we rarely use <1gb but it will drop down to 100m |
| 00:46.37 | davilion | yeah, large living room, plus some hallway and i have a few sq ft of space in my room too. |
| 00:46.55 | davilion | we can always start it off then go down the pub for a few hours while it copies. |
| 00:46.59 | resudaed | zachary: you got an http server running? |
| 00:47.04 | resudaed | (or available) |
| 00:47.38 | zachary | no http server, dynamic ip. |
| 00:47.48 | resudaed | davilion: that sounds good enough ... just need my raid card and a couple of 120GB HDD's |
| 00:48.04 | resudaed | zachary: http://www.no-ip.com |
| 00:48.06 | davilion | zachary: i'm getting some colospace in a few weeks if anybody wants an account let me knoiw |
| 00:48.36 | davilion | if your not hammering bandwidth then its free for a shell account but if your raping the bandiwdth i'll need to charge else i'll go bust lol |
| 00:48.49 | davilion | resudaed: cool, what kinda raid carD? |
| 00:49.20 | davilion | comp shop near me has a 'raid' card for 39 quid, but basically its just an ide controller which uses windows softrware raid but you could use it with linux and softraid |
| 00:49.22 | davilion | or lvm |
| 00:49.45 | resudaed | not sure yet ... but I have had enough of 2 things ... running out of space and losing data |
| 00:50.02 | resudaed | all is quiet ... don't want to let these amps get cold |
| 00:50.08 | davilion | heh |
| 00:50.15 | davilion | i quite like lvm its pretty good |
| 00:50.25 | davilion | so id go for software card since hot failover isnt that big a deal |
| 00:50.30 | zachary | resudaed: thanks for the no-ip site. I'll probably use it. |
| 00:50.45 | davilion | and some reasonably big cheap ide disks since for mp3 30-40mb a second is plenty fast enough |
| 00:51.26 | resudaed | davilion: I'm looking after some sound eqpt for a friend of mine |
| 00:51.46 | davilion | resudaed sweet |
| 00:52.26 | resudaed | 4x500W Mid/Tops, 6x double 18" subs, and amps to power them |
| 00:52.56 | resudaed | (some other stuff as well, but I'm already hammering 2 mains circuits poweing them |
| 00:53.31 | davilion | heh |
| 00:53.35 | davilion | and this is on loan? |
| 00:53.36 | resudaed | hooked up to a 5.1 sound card (I am only using 4.1 though), gives quite an effect |
| 00:54.14 | resudaed | he sort of ran out of space at his store room, I'm doing him a favour ... in return I picked what I was looking after |
| 00:54.51 | resudaed | I really wish I had the digital camera kicking around, but I can't find it |
| 00:55.05 | davilion | heheh |
| 00:55.11 | davilion | i dont have a lot of cool hw at home |
| 00:55.18 | davilion | i've got a fairly old but very decent pioneer amp |
| 00:55.25 | davilion | and i just plug my sb live into it |
| 00:55.31 | davilion | speakers really let it down though |
| 00:56.21 | resudaed | this is only for a week or so ... then back to 20W/channel RMS ... still good enough, but not the same :) |
| 00:56.47 | resudaed | just joined an irc server in quest for some more mp3's, first thing I typed was /join #gllug |
| 00:56.52 | resudaed | creature of habbit |
| 00:57.02 | davilion | heh |
| 00:57.13 | davilion | where are the best places to download music from? |
| 00:57.17 | davilion | i normally use ftp |
| 00:57.26 | resudaed | some extreme lag between here and boston MA |
| 00:57.58 | resudaed | I don't know, I am currently playing around on irc.galaxynet.ord #mp3files, not great though |
| 00:58.39 | resudaed | am not expecting to find any DT |
| 01:00.44 | zachary | I'm off to bed, good night. |
| 01:00.49 | resudaed | bastard will only let me que with more than 1 file |
| 01:01.56 | resudaed | zimm: you still abusing my feable 128k? |
| 01:02.05 | zimm | aye :-) |
| 01:02.11 | zimm | nrearly done |
| 01:02.21 | resudaed | what kind of bandwith are you able to get from it? |
| 01:02.43 | zimm | 14-15kb/sec |
| 01:03.03 | resudaed | tollerable ... could be worse |
| 01:03.05 | zimm | so , err bout 128k :) |
| 01:03.19 | zimm | heh , its better than mine .. |
| 01:03.42 | resudaed | there are 2 files on their way in to the httpd root dir |
| 01:03.42 | zimm | if someone starts pulling files off my box , it has a heart attack and dies ! |
| 01:04.11 | zimm | which ones did you say were fscked ? |
| 01:04.44 | resudaed | zimm ... drum solo, hollow years and long island expressway |
| 01:04.50 | resudaed | (that I know of) |
| 01:05.03 | zimm | well , long island expressway plays ok for me .. |
| 01:05.50 | zimm | ohh a muse fan too i see ... |
| 01:05.58 | resudaed | all the way through?, I think it drops out at some point |
| 01:06.21 | zimm | plays fine ... |
| 01:06.30 | davilion | mmm museare soo good |
| 01:06.34 | davilion | been to see them a few times |
| 01:06.48 | zimm | yeh ? , ive never been to a gig .. |
| 01:06.49 | resudaed | yep, they are somewhere on my 2000 long rock play list |
| 01:06.55 | zimm | but . |
| 01:07.06 | zimm | i know mat from years back |
| 01:07.24 | davilion | anybody fancy going to see some live music sometiem |
| 01:10.41 | zimm | yup i still have the plectrum i nicked last time we had a smoke with them |
| 01:10.41 | davilion | i want to start going out more in london but i dont relaly know where to go or no anybody to gow ith eh |
| 01:10.41 | zimm | davilion: im up for it .. just let me know where and when .. |
| 01:10.41 | resudaed | I'm up for it also |
| 01:10.41 | davilion | cool. |
| 01:10.41 | davilion | time to find some good rock/indie venues |
| 01:10.41 | zimm | resudaed: rush drops out suddenly .. |
| 01:10.41 | resudaed | I hope BY don't have bandwidth limits |
| 01:10.41 | resudaed | ah well, I will replace them when I get around to it (still trying to fond a cgood resource of DT files) |
| 01:11.48 | resudaed | 8GB down in the last week (ISO's), and over 1GB up on just mp3 sharing |
| 01:12.57 | davilion | heh cool |
| 01:17.16 | davilion | i soo need broadband |
| 01:17.16 | resudaed | I think I need T3 :-) |
| 01:17.16 | davilion | 40 quid a month gets you 1mb from ntl |
| 01:17.16 | davilion | i'm temped since i pay plus.net 30 a month anyway |
| 01:17.16 | resudaed | for me, 1MB would be 35 quid |
| 01:17.18 | resudaed | (got a phone to got with it ... tis why) |
| 01:17.19 | highbury | £38 per month from HomeChoice plus Videostream channels |
| 01:17.19 | highbury | 1Mbps |
| 01:17.19 | zimm | right , im off to sleep .. |
| 01:17.19 | resudaed | night zimm, does that mean I have my internet connection back ? :-) |
| 01:17.19 | zimm | aye :) |
| 01:17.19 | zimm | laters |
| 01:17.19 | resudaed | laters |
| 01:18.43 | resudaed | I'm going to look for another way to get mp3's ... gnutella is shite, irc is too damn messy |
| 01:18.48 | resudaed | my method of hosting is the best IMHO |
| 01:19.50 | davilion | yeah |
| 01:19.50 | davilion | ftp is pretty good |
| 01:19.50 | davilion | its just finding a good site |
| 01:19.50 | resudaed | I do it over http |
| 01:23.08 | resudaed | my site is simple but very affective |
| 01:23.08 | davilion | url? |
| 01:23.08 | resudaed | http://stolen.servemp3.com |
| 01:23.08 | resudaed | but watch my b/width :-) |
| 01:23.11 | resudaed | why can't everyone with a broadband connection be so generous |
| 01:23.11 | davilion | heh |
| 01:23.11 | resudaed | (if is too slow, try http://stolen.servehttp.com/mp3) |
| 01:23.11 | resudaed | that is on finding the page |
| 01:23.11 | resudaed | that is only a redirect |
| 01:23.12 | davilion | my plan was to find a few people with a fiarly decent connection and set up some kind of rsync system |
| 01:23.12 | resudaed | that would be pretty sweet |
| 01:27.27 | davilion | yeah i think so |
| 01:27.29 | resudaed | I will sacrifice some b/width to a good cause |
| 01:33.15 | davilion | right im off to bed before jessica beats me up |
| 01:33.15 | davilion | i'll catch you later. |
| 01:33.15 | resudaed | laters |
| 01:43.23 | murble | moo |
| 01:49.26 | highbury | baa |
| 01:52.12 | murble | bla |
| 01:58.43 | highbury | just reasearching for a CD-RW drive. I rather fancy the new Samsung Combo drive, it just isn't in the shops yet. |
| 02:07.00 | resudaed | I would not recommend mitsumi ... I have found them not to be particularly reliable |
| 08:43.34 | *** join/#gllug zachary (~zachary@host217-39-19-126.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 08:44.35 | zachary | good morning |
| 09:24.47 | resudaed | morning |
| 09:29.16 | resudaed | anyone have any real reasons for not using SuSE as a mail/httpd/gateway/cache-proxy (and what ever else I can fit on 400MB) |
| 09:29.25 | resudaed | 7.2pro |
| 09:35.26 | dank_work | Morning |
| 09:44.15 | *** join/#gllug Tarragon (~john@public1-stoc3-3-cust104.oldh.broadband.ntl.com) |
| 09:44.23 | dank_work | Hi Tarragon |
| 09:44.30 | resudaed | morning Tarragon |
| 09:45.08 | Tarragon | Morning - Finally back in the land of the living. |
| 09:45.37 | dank_work | (although some people complain about it politically) |
| 09:45.48 | Tarragon | Lost some sectors on a HD. Bookmark file seems to be the only one affected. |
| 09:46.04 | Tarragon | I have another reason. |
| 09:46.16 | resudaed | it's just I'm treading carfully with bandwidth this month ... SuSE 7.2pro is all I have on CD |
| 09:46.50 | dank_work | Try it. But remember it's easy to put too much stuff on the disk, so watch out |
| 09:46.57 | resudaed | my traffice is somewhere in the region of 15-20GB on the downstream and 3GB on the upstream |
| 09:47.22 | Tarragon | Although I run SuSE and it does have everything possible on the discs - trying to add new software that is not on the discs can cause library problems. |
| 09:47.32 | resudaed | I don't need X, any window managers, any soffice |
| 09:47.46 | dank_work | There's not that much that isn't on the SuSE discs :) |
| 09:48.00 | resudaed | I've got 7 CD's worth |
| 09:48.12 | Tarragon | resudaed: Vi or Emacs? |
| 09:48.23 | Tarragon | Lots of the Gnome stuff is not on. |
| 09:48.31 | resudaed | Vi (I'm not brave enought to try and work out emacs) |
| 09:48.56 | resudaed | I have some docs fom an old mandrake distro somewhere when I decide to work out emacs |
| 09:49.08 | Tarragon | Admittedly the same problem exists on all commercial distros and the only way around is to run Deb |
| 09:49.36 | resudaed | Tarragon: that'd be everything that primarily uses rpm packages? |
| 09:49.38 | Tarragon | Emacs - 20MB just to edit a text file :-) |
| 09:50.03 | resudaed | well I have 400MB, httpd/cache will run over NFS |
| 09:50.57 | dank_work | Yeah, but don't use Gnome :) |
| 09:51.11 | resudaed | I don't like gnome much anyway |
| 09:52.07 | resudaed | couldn't see any major fundimental differences between it and kde (contraversial comment :), but my opinion) |
| 09:52.10 | dank_work | emacs isn't that bad |
| 09:52.23 | resudaed | emacs or gnome? |
| 09:52.27 | dank_work | emacs |
| 09:53.02 | resudaed | ah rite ... I will one day move on from Vi, quite happy with it at the moment |
| 09:54.15 | dank_work | vi is good too |
| 09:54.25 | resudaed | time to find 5 blank floppies (or 1 and keep re-writing) |
| 09:55.00 | dank_work | 5!? |
| 09:55.01 | resudaed | technically I should only need 3 or 4, but knowing my luck it'll still ask for the usb/firewire modules disk on a 486 |
| 09:55.11 | resudaed | device modules :-) |
| 09:55.32 | resudaed | (disk based installation seems very poorly written) |
| 09:55.33 | dank_work | And is ideal for a server system |
| 09:55.50 | resudaed | SuSE was designed around this rather modern invention they call a CD |
| 09:56.04 | resudaed | not floppy friendly |
| 09:56.05 | dank_work | They've also moved on from 10 years ago |
| 09:56.16 | resudaed | (a 486 bios probably doesn't know how to boot from CD) |
| 09:56.19 | dank_work | :) |
| 09:56.55 | resudaed | from memory, the SX doesn't, this is a DX(1) 33MHz |
| 09:57.11 | resudaed | if I put a heat sink on it <g> I might be able to push 66 |
| 09:57.32 | dank_work | Heh. Unlikely, though |
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| 09:57.42 | dank_work | It's not heat that's the problem, it'd be the silicon |
| 09:57.48 | resudaed | dank_work: you've never seen my heat sinks :) |
| 09:58.04 | dank_work | Even so |
| 09:58.43 | resudaed | my last one is a standard socket 7 with 2 3" fans, the processor that used to run around 60-70 degrees with a heatsink/fan is now doing 28 degrees with the same heatsink |
| 10:00.26 | dank_work | Yes, but running the silicon twice as fast as it's designed to be run won't work (properly) |
| 10:02.10 | resudaed | anyway, that is a project for the future ... lets get something running on it first (486(33), 20MB RAM, 400MB HDD, 4xCDROM, 2x3COM EtherlinkIII NIC's) a set up that should be compatible with pretty much anything |
| 10:02.23 | resudaed | (anything oldish) |
| 10:04.53 | resudaed | apparantly it has a secondary ide controller, I've never found it though :) |
| 10:05.50 | dank_work | OpenBSD :) |
| 10:05.57 | dank_work | You can install it over FTP/HTTP |
| 10:06.12 | dank_work | And it's only one floppy disk needed to install |
| 10:06.19 | resudaed | I think more than 5 emails a day will count as a DoS opn this thing, you have all been warned :) |
| 10:06.27 | resudaed | dank_work: I am watching b/width |
| 10:06.42 | resudaed | until I have read my contract fully |
| 10:07.05 | dank_work | Have you been warned about bandwidth usage then? |
| 10:07.23 | dank_work | WOO! |
| 10:07.34 | resudaed | not yet, and I don't want to be until I am sure they have no defined limits |
| 10:07.37 | dank_work | My Demon name resolves! |
| 10:07.51 | resudaed | resolves as? |
| 10:08.01 | dank_work | spookhive.demon.co.uk has address 80.177.26.183 |
| 10:08.55 | resudaed | stolen.servehttp.com has IP 80.193.187.194 and has had for 2 weeks now |
| 10:09.23 | dank_work | And other domains have resolved for me for a year or more |
| 10:09.28 | dank_work | That's beside the point. |
| 10:09.38 | dank_work | But if the Demon address resolves, then ADSL might well be on its way |
| 10:09.50 | resudaed | (as stolen.serve{irc/mp3/ftp}.com) :-) but I am only serving on port 80 |
| 10:10.09 | resudaed | oh right, I assumed that meant you already had adsl |
| 10:10.29 | resudaed | different story then :) |
| 10:10.57 | resudaed | wahey ... I have got to the 'Missing operating system' message |
| 10:11.29 | resudaed | now time to start 'burning' floppies |
| 10:11.47 | dank_work | :) |
| 10:11.59 | dank_work | I ordered it. Three weeks ago tomorrow. |
| 10:12.10 | dank_work | But it looks like something might finally happen about it |
| 10:12.21 | resudaed | I think ours came in about 2 weeks ... still too long |
| 10:12.32 | dank_work | Two weeks is what they normally quote |
| 10:12.40 | resudaed | the new tv/dvd/vcr comes next friday ... that's what I'm looking forward to |
| 10:16.07 | resudaed | writing over Windows NT4 w/station boot floppy ... :) |
| 10:16.23 | resudaed | windows 3.1 disk 3 |
| 10:16.28 | resudaed | (copy of) |
| 10:17.51 | resudaed | if I reverse if and of, would I save an image of a floppy to a file? |
| 10:17.57 | dank_work | Yup |
| 10:18.08 | dank_work | if = input file; of = output file |
| 10:18.16 | resudaed | that way I can use a trust worthy Packard Belkl Rescue Disk :) |
| 10:18.43 | resudaed | so if=/dev/fd0, of=<file> |
| 10:18.53 | dank_work | Yup |
| 10:19.50 | resudaed | life feels so simple these days ... if it looks like it should be do-able, it usually is |
| 10:20.27 | dank_work | Sometimes |
| 10:21.12 | resudaed | I have not come across an instance where I have thought o/wise (except with wms) |
| 10:21.17 | resudaed | (WMs) |
| 10:22.43 | dank_work | If it's not doable, you can always write your own program :) |
| 10:26.24 | resudaed | wihout much difficulty |
| 10:26.34 | resudaed | (assuming you can type properly |
| 10:26.35 | resudaed | ) |
| 10:27.43 | resudaed | then you'll find hours searching cryptic erro messages trying to find the one typo thats causing a 1MB file of compiler erros |
| 10:28.12 | resudaed | 1+0 records in |
| 10:28.15 | resudaed | 0+0 records out |
| 10:28.22 | resudaed | that wasn't a good disk anyway |
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| 10:31.08 | resudaed | I have a good feeling about this next one |
| 10:33.02 | resudaed | perfect 2880/2880 |
| 10:33.34 | resudaed | didn't find out till I started using disk images how volatile these floppies were |
| 10:35.53 | dank_work | Floppies are |
| 10:37.23 | dank_work | Hum. Just finished reading Garfield |
| 10:38.32 | resudaed | I've found 1 disk that's about 3 years old kicking around on my floor ... even sounded perfect |
| 10:38.53 | resudaed | clicked in nicley, hardley makes a noise |
| 10:39.11 | dank_work | Heh |
| 10:40.29 | resudaed | and when did M$ say 'have a lot of fun...' |
| 10:40.45 | dank_work | They didn't |
| 10:41.44 | resudaed | (my point) |
| 10:42.36 | resudaed | at what age should one be introduced to linux? |
| 10:42.50 | dank_work | I was introduced at 15 |
| 10:43.44 | resudaed | my 11 year old cousin is wanting to be introduced :-) |
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| 10:44.03 | dank_work | Also a good age |
| 10:44.11 | resudaed | (he has grown up pretty quickly) |
| 10:44.49 | dank_work | It's never too early to introduce people to other OSes (not just Linux), assuming you think they'll be able to cope with them |
| 10:44.54 | resudaed | I went to their house on christmas day, and found he was re-building a 486 with hard ware scavanged from his dad's study |
| 10:45.18 | dank_work | Cool :) |
| 10:45.27 | resudaed | (he knew 90% or so of what he was doing, the rest was an educated guess) |
| 10:45.55 | dank_work | Like most of the time when you start building computers |
| 10:47.12 | resudaed | yeah, but to be doing it at 11 |
| 10:47.28 | resudaed | some people go through their entire lives not even knowing what the inside of the computer looks like |
| 10:47.50 | resudaed | he needed some help with some things that you can opnly really learn through experience |
| 10:48.26 | resudaed | how quickly can I have a cd mounted on NFS? |
| 10:50.12 | dank_work | About 5 minutes |
| 10:50.15 | resudaed | this has got to be the *worst* installation disk ever written |
| 10:50.17 | dank_work | Assuming you have nfsd installed |
| 10:50.27 | dank_work | :) |
| 10:50.33 | resudaed | first I'll have to set up a network card |
| 10:51.24 | resudaed | Please enter parameters for "3c59x", what parameters? |
| 10:51.34 | resudaed | (none doesn't work) |
| 10:51.42 | resudaed | nfsd is installed ok |
| 10:52.20 | resudaed | fscking germans |
| 10:52.26 | resudaed | :) |
| 10:53.27 | Tarragon | Oh how I agree with that comment! |
| 10:54.03 | resudaed | :) |
| 10:54.19 | dank_work | There shouldn't be any parameters needed for 3c59x - it's a PCI card, so should be automaticalyl detected |
| 10:54.25 | resudaed | ISA |
| 10:54.49 | resudaed | 3C509B (x2) |
| 10:55.14 | resudaed | (you expect a 486 to have PCI slots)? |
| 10:55.27 | dank_work | Then you don't want 3c59x drivers |
| 10:55.39 | resudaed | good point, I can't read |
| 10:55.42 | dank_work | Yes, some 486s have PCI slots (but they're generally the 486/100s) |
| 10:55.51 | resudaed | DX4's |
| 10:56.29 | dank_work | Yeah |
| 10:56.36 | dank_work | But you'd want 3c5x9 drivers |
| 10:57.43 | resudaed | which are on the second modules disk (I'd assume) which I currently cannot write to for some unkown reason |
| 10:59.25 | resudaed | ah well ... I'll eventually get there :) |
| 11:00.14 | resudaed | and, guess what ... ti's only found eth0 I am going to get extremely pissed off very soon |
| 11:01.04 | resudaed | should be enough for NFS anyway (assuming I can work out which is eth0) |
| 11:04.38 | dank_work | Um. |
| 11:04.47 | dank_work | If you have two identical cards it should detect both |
| 11:04.59 | dank_work | Unless they're completely identical (i.e. port and IRQ settings) |
| 11:05.45 | resudaed | I don't know ... bios isn't that specific |
| 11:06.00 | dank_work | It's not the BIOS |
| 11:06.20 | dank_work | Presumably the cards aren't in Plug-n-Pray mode? |
| 11:06.26 | resudaed | yeah, but the bios is my only way to find out |
| 11:06.35 | dank_work | Get hold of 3COM's 3c5x9cfg program |
| 11:06.45 | resudaed | neither card has any jumpers |
| 11:07.31 | resudaed | one has S/N 004, the other 002, apart from that the cards are identical |
| 11:09.36 | dank_work | No. They're software configurably. Not jumper-configurable |
| 11:09.41 | dank_work | Hence get 3c5x9cfg |
| 11:10.13 | resudaed | I realised ... just looking (will the s/ware be bootable (obvious reasons) |
| 11:10.41 | dank_work | Nope. You need a DOS boot disk |
| 11:12.38 | resudaed | ah well ... too much for now ... I'll just make do with the one card for NFS |
| 11:14.16 | resudaed | hah, neither of them work now :-) |
| 11:14.21 | dank_work | Heh |
| 11:14.27 | resudaed | too much effort generally, I'll go ice skating instead |
| 11:14.30 | dank_work | You might just have to remove one of them, then |
| 11:14.35 | dank_work | Fair enough :) |
| 11:14.42 | resudaed | removing one means turning off |
| 11:14.54 | resudaed | turning of means turning on again |
| 11:15.08 | resudaed | turning on means writing 3 floppy disks again |
| 11:15.30 | dank_work | Oh. Right. |
| 11:15.48 | resudaed | lets seeif physically removing 1 while turned on causes any major problems (if they are sharing h/ware addresses, should confuse it to much (50/50)) |
| 11:16.00 | dank_work | Heh. Good luck |
| 11:16.12 | resudaed | keyboard still responds |
| 11:17.27 | resudaed | assuming you can see what I am typing ... I need a new monitor |
| 11:19.34 | dank_work | What's wrong with this one? |
| 11:19.43 | dank_work | Fuzzy? |
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| 11:29.13 | dank_work | wb |
| 11:29.45 | resuDaed_C | ty, I'm still here as resuDaed, but I think if I attempt to switch back to X I will start a fire |
| 11:30.13 | resuDaed_C | (I am using an old IBM early vga job) |
| 11:30.48 | resuDaed_C | using the other monitor for the installation being that that is where my concentratio should be ... mymonochrome monitor just gave up |
| 11:31.06 | dank_work | Ah |
| 11:31.07 | dank_work | :-/ |
| 11:31.39 | resuDaed_C | some how the 486 still works even though I just ripped out one of the NIC's |
| 11:31.52 | dank_work | Heh. Hot-plugging ISA :) |
| 11:31.52 | resuDaed_C | (just re-loaded the module) |
| 11:32.04 | dank_work | :) |
| 11:32.12 | resuDaed_C | they must have been sharing some h/ware settings for that to have worked at all |
| 11:32.43 | resuDaed_C | I have eth0 @ irq1 |
| 11:33.02 | dank_work | irq1? |
| 11:33.07 | dank_work | Urg |
| 11:33.17 | dank_work | The usual configuration is port 0x300, IRQ 10 |
| 11:33.28 | resuDaed_C | (I thought irq 1 was reserved for someting more meaningful than a network card) |
| 11:34.15 | dank_work | It is. |
| 11:34.18 | dank_work | Normally |
| 11:34.33 | resuDaed_C | the huib isn't detecting the card though :( |
| 11:34.45 | resuDaed_C | s/huib/hub |
| 11:35.53 | resuDaed_C | it found the other NIC though (different MAC) |
| 11:36.03 | resuDaed_C | so yes, it was a h/ware conflict |
| 11:36.26 | resuDaed_C | and it is on port 0x300 |
| 11:36.41 | dank_work | That's fine |
| 11:36.51 | dank_work | In which case, the other card should be set to, say, 0x310 |
| 11:36.55 | resuDaed_C | just not lighting up my hub |
| 11:37.16 | resuDaed_C | (def *not* a faulty cable) |
| 11:39.00 | resuDaed_C | 'hot swap' back and test the other card (this time it may crash) |
| 11:41.09 | resuDaed_C | don't now what is going on |
| 11:41.15 | resuDaed_C | ^know |
| 11:43.31 | resuDaed_C | ouch ... accidently switched to tty7 (x session) on this monitor ... didn't explode though |
| 11:43.59 | dank_work | Heh |
| 11:44.08 | dank_work | You seem to have very dodgy hardware |
| 11:44.21 | dank_work | Maybe the reason only one NIC was working was because one of them is b0rk3d? |
| 11:45.54 | resuDaed_C | wierd, because when the first one was removed, the second one was found |
| 11:47.17 | dank_work | Oh hum. |
| 11:47.20 | dank_work | Dunno |
| 11:47.39 | resuDaed_C | a 3com card wouldn't need any initialisation from an OS before it will 'light up a hub' |
| 11:47.46 | resuDaed_C | would it? |
| 11:48.19 | resuDaed_C | (I have seen something like it before, but not with a mainstream vendor) |
| 11:49.04 | resuDaed_C | maybe I'll check if I have any other ISA NIC's kicking around |
| 11:49.13 | dank_work | No, it won't |
| 11:49.13 | resuDaed_C | a nice NE2000 clone or something |
| 11:49.16 | dank_work | :) |
| 11:49.49 | resuDaed_C | (they always work fine) |
| 11:51.33 | dank_work | 3coms always work fine for me |
| 11:51.46 | dank_work | I really like the 3c509 |
| 11:51.48 | dank_work | +s |
| 11:54.21 | resuDaed_C | well if you have any spare, I could do with one |
| 11:54.31 | resuDaed_C | (or 2) |
| 11:54.44 | resuDaed_C | because I have always really like them in the past |
| 11:55.02 | resuDaed_C | (this 486 was once a firewall) |
| 12:08.12 | dank_work | Unfortunately I don't have any spare 509s |
| 12:08.17 | dank_work | I have quite a few 503s |
| 12:28.27 | resuDaed_C | just had a shower, are 503's ISA or PCI? |
| 12:29.27 | dank_work | ISA |
| 12:29.29 | dank_work | But they're really old |
| 12:29.34 | dank_work | And BNC-only |
| 12:29.38 | resuDaed_C | Ah |
| 12:29.38 | dank_work | (well, and AUI) |
| 12:30.30 | resuDaed_C | my minimum requirement is 10baseT, o/wsie I'd be using my machine to get bnc on to 10baseT (the rest of the network is made up of reasonably modern parts) |
| 12:30.48 | resuDaed_C | that kind of defeats the object of a seperate box doesn' t it |
| 12:32.48 | dank_work | Eh? I'm confused |
| 12:33.22 | resuDaed_C | g2g, I'll explain later |
| 12:34.15 | dank_work | Okay |
| 12:34.16 | dank_work | Have fun |
| 12:38.45 | resuDaed_iceSkat | I should do, my sisters firends sister isn't bad looking |
| 12:38.58 | resuDaed_iceSkat | ;) |
| 12:48.52 | dank_work | Hehe :) |
| 12:49.02 | dank_work | Always hopeful.. |
| 12:51.14 | resuDaed_iceSkat | (I think she's single) |
| 12:51.19 | resuDaed_iceSkat | I am really gone now |
| 13:01.31 | dank_work | Even better if she's single |
| 13:05.21 | zachary | resuDaed_iceSkat: Were you looking for a 10baseT hub with BNC on the back? |
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| 14:08.14 | dank_work | Hi davilion |
| 14:14.47 | davilion | hi dank_work |
| 14:14.50 | davilion | hows it going? |
| 14:15.42 | dank_work | Okay. |
| 14:15.48 | dank_work | Fighting with FreeRADIUS |
| 14:16.21 | davilion | radius server? yuck! |
| 14:17.52 | dank_work | Heh |
| 14:18.00 | dank_work | RADIUS seems to be slightly evil |
| 14:18.28 | davilion | yeah i got that impression when i read the cyclades manual it has all these horirble bits of config if you want to use radius for authenticating lusers |
| 14:20.26 | davilion | thankfully we just use it for console redirection |
| 14:20.46 | dank_work | Apparently we're looking into some single signongs |
| 14:20.51 | dank_work | *sign-ons |
| 14:20.56 | dank_work | Plus I'm bored |
| 14:30.26 | dank_work | Right. Recompiled statically and it seems to be working |
| 14:52.42 | Tarragon | What is the sticky bit used for? Is it to keep an app in swap and RAM so it is available quicker for the next user? |
| 14:54.54 | dank_work | I thought it was to maintain directory gids |
| 14:55.32 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.33 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.33 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.33 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.33 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.33 | dank_work | (does that man page exist on Linux?) |
| 14:57.29 | davilion | Tarragon: it effectively allows you to share a directory safe in the knowledge that one user can only fuck up their own files |
| 14:57.37 | Tarragon | No the man page does not exist |
| 14:58.26 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 14:58.31 | dank_work | A directory whose `sticky bit' is set becomes an append-only directory, |
| 14:58.31 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.32 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.09 | Tarragon | What happens when it is set on a file and not a directory? |
| 14:59.25 | dank_work | Bugger all |
| 14:59.32 | dank_work | (at least on UFS filesystems) |
| 15:01.50 | dank_work | Ah. And the GNU version (from the horrible horrible info page): |
| 15:02.43 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.43 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.43 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.43 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.43 | dank_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.52 | highbury | hi guys |
| 15:04.16 | davilion | hi |
| 15:04.26 | highbury | sticky bit on files was used on old SunOS 3.5, to lock files into memory, for efficiency purposes |
| 15:04.35 | Tarragon | hi |
| 15:06.56 | dank_work | hi highbury |
| 15:07.14 | highbury | hi Tarragon, davilion, dank_work |
| 15:14.59 | Tarragon | Had a good Xmas? |
| 15:16.19 | dank_work | Yes! RADIUS passwd authentication works! |
| 16:30.54 | zachary | brb in a few hours |
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| 16:43.57 | dank_work | Did I say that? |
| 16:44.05 | Jenson | Nope....but still.... |
| 16:44.11 | dank_work | :) |
| 16:46.31 | Jenson | Well I don't seem to have livened it up... |
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| 17:06.57 | formi | hi |
| 17:13.12 | dank_work | Hi |
| 17:13.19 | dank_work | Back in .UK then? |
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| 17:34.25 | murble | blah |
| 17:34.35 | formi | blo |
| 17:36.41 | formi | im having an annoying problem |
| 17:37.24 | formi | i can log into remote machines with ssh, a few seconds later the connections freeze |
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| 17:57.00 | dank_work | hi zimm |
| 17:57.12 | zimm | hi dank_work |
| 17:57.23 | dank_work | And, in fact, bye :) |
| 17:57.26 | dank_work | I'm off home |
| 17:57.48 | dank_work | I'll be back around 11, after the pubs shut (assuming my friend will still feel like going in a couple of hours) |
| 17:58.18 | zimm | heh |
| 17:58.43 | zimm | any idea why when i start X with startx it starts at 75dpi despite /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc specifying -dpi 100 ? |
| 17:59.40 | dank_work | It doesn't pick up the settings from there? |
| 17:59.49 | dank_work | Anyway, home. Must go. |
| 17:59.55 | zimm | k |
| 17:59.58 | dank_work | C'ya later. |
| 18:00.10 | zimm | laters |
| 19:11.11 | highbury | zim; startx is just a script, so trace what it does |
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| 19:47.35 | pdr | hello |
| 19:49.08 | formi | hiya |
| 19:49.20 | pdr | hi formi |
| 19:49.44 | pdr | how has your festive season been going? |
| 19:49.50 | formi | boring |
| 19:50.00 | formi | im back at home |
| 19:50.13 | pdr | home as in spain? |
| 19:50.24 | formi | and it's been raining like hell for the last week |
| 19:50.28 | formi | yeap |
| 19:50.41 | pdr | i hate rain |
| 19:50.49 | pdr | especially when there is a drought back in au |
| 19:51.06 | formi | some days we had 100 litres per square meter |
| 19:52.17 | formi | and continuous thunder storms |
| 19:52.33 | formi | so I had to resort to reading paper books |
| 19:53.38 | pdr | that's 100mm of rain! wow! |
| 19:54.38 | formi | that is not much |
| 19:54.56 | formi | but it tends to bore you after a few days |
| 19:58.38 | formi | appart I went to lend a hand to the people trying to clean up the petrol of some beaches |
| 19:58.45 | formi | and it was really sad |
| 20:09.39 | formi | well i need to be off |
| 20:09.53 | zimm | laters formi |
| 20:10.13 | formi | see ya all |
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| 21:37.06 | Jenson | Evening all. |
| 21:37.37 | BorgBaby | hi Jenson |
| 21:37.53 | Jenson | Hey BorgBaby |
| 21:38.26 | Tarragon | Evening |
| 21:38.41 | Jenson | Hey Tarragon, long time no chat. Where you been? |
| 21:39.00 | Tarragon | Here - lurking as usual. Very shy |
| 21:39.25 | Jenson | Awww Tarragon you shouldn't be shy, we aren't scary. |
| 21:39.34 | Tarragon | :-) |
| 21:56.06 | winjer | haw haw haw: http://www.riaa.org [very offensive] |
| 21:56.17 | winjer | http://www.riaa.org/admin/add_press.cfm |
| 21:57.51 | zimm | hehe |
| 21:59.29 | Jenson | lol that sites got all the anti napster stuff on it. If I didn#t d/l music I probably wouldn't decide to buy albums at all. |
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| 22:18.47 | zachary | good evening all |
| 22:18.52 | Tarragon | Evening |
| 22:22.01 | Jenson | hey zachary |
| 22:22.02 | Jenson | BRB |
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| 22:37.33 | highbury | anybody know where the multi-region DVD hack page is for DVD (computer-based) drives? There used to be a web site |
| 22:37.38 | highbury | in France |
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| 22:37.51 | Jenson | back |
| 22:37.51 | zimm | wb Jenson |
| 22:37.54 | Jenson | ty zimm |
| 22:39.12 | zachary | highbury: I have that page bookmarked on my desktop, i'm burning a dvd right now. If you don't get it bug me later, k. |
| 22:40.00 | zimm | heh |
| 22:40.04 | highbury | Jenson: search out anything by Klaus Nomi |
| 22:41.39 | highbury | He was a kick-ass Counter-Tenor who did some "popular" stuff, really cool |
| 22:42.55 | Jenson | I visited the local computer store to look at HDs...but they only had 1. |
| 22:43.54 | highbury | I'm waiting for somebody to stock either a Samsung SM-348 or Philips JackRabbit II |
| 22:46.08 | Jenson | I don't trust me with HDs actually....I think I've killed 2 in the last few weeks |
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| 22:55.55 | highbury | zachary found it! http://www.firmware.fr.st |
| 22:55.56 | zimm | lol , |
| 22:56.06 | zachary | highbury: region-free firmware from digital-digest @ http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/firmware.html |
| 22:57.00 | zimm | if anyone can tel m why my TV card causes random lockuups on linux i'll err ,, well , say thanks ? |
| 22:57.06 | Jenson | wb zimm |
| 22:57.13 | zimm | :) |
| 23:05.27 | zachary | I'm off to bed. Good night. |
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| 23:21.14 | Jenson | hi dankolb |
| 23:21.25 | dankolb | Hiya |
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