irclog2html for #gllug on 20021231

00:22.14JensonWell I better go to bed....seenas my parents say I have to get up early to go with them to look at fucking cookers in Chelmsford
00:22.25dankolbfucking cookers?
00:22.29dankolbGive hot sex?
00:22.41Jensonlmfao
00:23.00JensonAnd then to Colchester to stare at computers in PCWorld
00:23.16dankolbOh what fun
00:23.25dankolbI have work again
00:23.27dankolbUntil 3pm
00:23.42JensonNo doubt you'll find welcome distraction somewhere
00:23.53dankolbWhy? Are you going to be online?
00:24.13JensonNope....not til the evening..........
00:24.17JensonI need ADSL :(
00:24.23dankolbMe too
00:24.32dankolbBloody BT
00:25.01dankolbThey need to hurry up, they do
00:25.57*** part/#gllug Jenson (Jenson@host62-7-66-17.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
00:29.29dankolb'night all
00:29.36TarragonNight
00:55.01murblemoein
00:57.47TarragonJust getting that real sinking feeling that i should have read some email over Xmas
00:57.59zimmTarragon: lol ,
00:58.02TarragonSo much and so little time
00:58.20TarragonJust under 8K emails
01:03.46highburyTarragon: we should start planning the next meeting soon :-)
01:05.59TarragonYes.
01:06.33TarragonWhy are people emailing me at this time of night. I read 30 emails another 10 arrive.
01:06.56highburymaybe thursday would be a good time to start, ... at the latest
01:07.41TarragonOK Thursday it is
01:08.57TarragonOK I will be back after I have read some emails...
01:09.50highburyI have over a 100 "TIGHT VIRGIN TEENS ON CAM " emails sent to my demon account!
01:10.21TarragonCan you not filter them?
01:10.57highburyits getting close to having to do that
01:12.04highburybut most of my mailing list stuff gets filtered, so usually only spam is left in my inbox, so its not too painful to manually delete them. Kmail is reasonably fast and esasy to use
01:14.49zimmheh , kmail is nice
01:17.01TarragonIt does not handle scoring well - Any reasonable sized folder (5K messages) seems to slow down so it is unworkable.
01:17.19TarragonHmmm maybe I should upgrade the version...
01:18.18highburywhat format mail folders do you use? mbox or maildir ?
01:19.56murblemaildir is horrible when you have many messages
01:20.32murbleor atleats mutts handling of it is
01:20.35highburyI have several folders with 10,000 messages (I prefer mbox)
01:21.39highburyI need to find or write a script which fixes mbox files, I have many messages which either have screwed dates or overflow onto the next message
01:23.12highburywell, I'm off to bed gnite folks
01:23.22murblenn h
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05:52.49irvined_anybody else awake?
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08:56.12zacharygood morning
09:06.51dank_workMorning
09:07.40TarragonMorning
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10:57.40dank_workLeeds!
10:57.45dank_workHow're you doing?
10:59.51Leedsnot bad...
10:59.55Leedsbeen very very busy
11:00.17Leedshow's things with you?
11:00.48highburymorning
11:01.12Leedsyes, it is
11:05.06Leedsso, how are you?
11:05.43highburylow-key but busy holidays
11:09.57dank_workI'm okay
11:10.00dank_workSitting at work
11:10.20dank_workThat's about it. Nothing special happening
11:34.39LeedsI haven't bothered going into work... very few people around...
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11:38.56Davilionamorning all
11:39.40Davilionhi Leeds hows it going?
11:42.53dank_workHi Davilion
11:43.07dank_workThere's not many people around here at work either
11:43.14dank_work6 people in this office
11:48.25Daviliondank_work: i was the only one in our office whos even bothered to check the mail for the last 2 weeks
11:48.34Davilionuntil yesturday nobody else had logged in at all.
11:54.55Davilionthis is so surreal.
11:55.08Davilionwe're all spaced out on the sofa typing to each other in irc rather than speaking watching bugs bunny
12:03.25dank_workHehe :)
12:06.28Davilionits been really cool had a class night last night ,went to a club called bed, which was open till 4
12:06.46Davilionit was £1 for most drinks right up till 4am :)
12:12.34dank_work:)
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12:37.32dank_workOpenLDAP is crap
12:40.35murbles/Open// # HTH HAND
12:49.05Leedsdank_work: I had a question, re: qmail&spamassassin...  I've got it setup, sort of, with qmail-scanner... but I want to be able to use per-user spamassassin settings... is that possible?
12:50.53murbledo people tend to go to work on the 31st of december?
12:51.10murbleLeeds: you can't use do spamc -u lusername?
12:51.33Leedsin theory, it's a normal working day... in practice, between 27/12 and 2/1 is pretty much limbo time
12:52.02Leedsthe problem is that I think spamc is being called before qmail decides where to deliver the mail to - so it doesn't know which username to use
12:53.09murblethat sounds like a problem.
12:53.32murblecan't you do it a a per user basis from ~/.qmail- files?
12:53.32Leedsyes... qmail is strange...
12:53.40murblei assume qmail permits pipes
12:53.45murblefor users i mean?
12:53.58Leedsthe whole point is to do it system-wide, so the dumber users don't need to mess with their .qmail files
12:54.20Leedsit wasn't my choice to use it
12:54.23murbleLeeds: ahh but you need per user options, or how do users opt out/ whitelist stuff.
12:55.05Leedsexactly... I want it called for every incoming mail, but with per-user settings
12:55.34murbleso do a secret migration to exim or postfix or sendmail or somthing?
12:55.57murbledo you run any ezmlm lists?
12:56.03Leedswell, maybe... but I want to  beat qmail into submission.
12:56.07Leedswe use mailman for lists
13:26.36dank_workLeeds: I think you can set it on per-user basis
13:26.49dank_workBah
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13:36.24NisoDaemonEcho...
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14:08.48dank_workibot dankolb
14:08.49i guess dankolb is not a bot, or hates BTinternet, or a horse, or has a FreeBSD fetish
14:10.14dank_workibot highbury
14:10.16highbury is, like, Steve
14:31.11highburyshort and sweet :-)
14:38.34highburythough not as short as leeds
14:39.51dank_workibot leeds
14:39.52it has been said that leeds is a bloke called Richard in the UK or spending too much time playing with expensive electronic toys or a genius or whatever you want him to be
14:39.56dank_work:)
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14:53.53murblehi colin, we've been making snowpengins
15:02.24murbleisn't xsnow non-free?
15:02.52highburygrinch!
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15:42.54murblehttp://www.penguinpeople.org
16:27.18dank_workHome
16:27.18dank_workBye
17:09.36murblebla
17:18.43Leedsfloog
17:19.55murblehave you looked at athe penguin?
17:20.39LeedsI looked at that site, which is empty...
17:21.03TarragonCool penguin - What is the beak made from? Oh and where?
17:22.01TarragonXsnow is available freely by rights retained. Allowed to distribute with Linux distros and make changes to do just that.
17:22.38Leedswhat are you talking about?
17:23.35TarragonXsnow is screen toy for Unix/Linux systems, Penguin is a snow penguin made at a mini LWB?
17:24.00LeedsI know xsnow, of course :-)  found the cool mozilla version recently...
17:26.31eye69Evening
17:27.12TarragonEvening
17:27.28TarragonLeeds: What does it do? Snow on a webpage?
17:30.51Leedspretty much... http://www.klepp.info/jsSnow/index.html
17:32.44Leedsalthough by law, there should be nothing of interest on that page, hence the .info
17:40.19murbleLeeds: reload
17:40.46murblethat was because of a broken nameserver, it has been fixed via wrong webserver doing mod_proxying the proper site
18:02.10murblerocklinux?
18:02.23murbleibot rocklinux?
18:02.24murble: i haven't a clue
18:06.46skuggrocklinux is _the_ distro for people that love pissing-contests
18:06.52skugg:)
18:07.01skuggibot rocklinux?
18:07.02skugg: i haven't a clue
18:07.05skuggah.
18:07.49murblehi skugg, happy NY in a few hours
18:08.03skuggmurble, same to you, an hour later :)
18:08.09murblehehe
18:08.13murblewhat TZ are you in?
18:08.23skuggGMT +1
18:08.26Tarragonibot rocklinux is at http://www.rocklinux.org/about.html
18:08.27Tarragon: okay
18:08.37skuggah, you have to include the nick...
18:08.53murbleI'm in CET as well
18:09.06skuggah. okay :)
18:09.21murblesee our photos from today at http
18:09.27skugghappy NY same time as me then :)
18:09.27murble://www.penguinpeople.org
18:09.40murbleh we are gonig to do it twice :)
18:10.10skuggi'm going to leave the camera at home when leaving for the party, I think... my SLR is a bit too expensive to lug arround when shitfaced
18:10.25murbleoh we have an offical photographer, huhn.
18:12.37skuggi'm talking about the NY party i'm leaving for in a few min:)
18:13.21murbleyeah, she is at this one in helmbretchs
18:14.23murbleNynorsk? (theregister story)
18:16.09skuggi don't write nynorsk, but i speak it, of sorts... (i _can_ write it, but I chose not to)
18:16.38skuggnorway have two languages, nynorsk and bokmål
18:18.20skuggheh. the reason for that (i'm reading theregister now) is that governmental requirements that all government software should exist in both bokmål and nynorsk. MS refused, because it was "too expensive" but then free software people started porting openoffice :P
18:18.26skuggguess that scared them.
18:18.48skuggKDE and GNOME exists in both, I think (at least KDE)
18:19.13murblepity they gave in.
18:19.44skuggyes
18:19.58skuggbut I think they were a bit too late, nevertheless.
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18:20.11murblehi dank
18:20.21skuggmy dad, who's never turned a machine on in his life, have heard of this money-saving linux.
18:20.55murbleexcellent
18:21.03skuggi think MS sat on the fence for long enough, and linux got root in norway. i think it'll be hard for them to get back in again
18:21.26skuggtime will show
18:21.42skuggbut, now I'm off... bye, and happy new year to everybody!
18:21.47murbleyear windows doesn't play well in hetrogenuis networks
18:21.50murblenn happy NY
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20:57.26dankolbHi
20:58.22TarragonBrand name?
20:59.27JensonI shouldn't buy cheap crap
20:59.41Jensonnevermind I'll get to the Bacardi Breezers next
20:59.48JensonI wish I was going out tonight but I'm not
21:00.08dankolbI'm not either
21:00.16dankolbSo don't feel bad about it
21:00.36JensonI'm inclined to feel bad...
21:00.50dankolbThere's no need
21:01.51dankolbUhhuh
21:02.14JensonAh well I'll drink tomorrow.
21:02.28TarragonDoesn't everyone here including ibot count as really random.
21:02.43dankolbThat'll remain to be seen
21:02.54JensonTarragon: Are you suggesting I should flirt with half the channel or something :)
21:03.10dankolbNo. Just ibot
21:03.12dankolbibot flirt
21:03.13dankolb: I give up, what is it?
21:03.13TarragonNo.
21:03.29Jensonibot dankolb
21:03.30i heard dankolb is not a bot, or hates BTinternet, or a horse, or has a FreeBSD fetish
21:03.40Jensonibot Tarragon
21:03.42rumour has it, tarragon is a tall Northern bloke
21:03.49dankolbIt's an OpenBSD fetish^W^W^W^W
21:03.57JensonYou northern Tarragon?
21:04.05JensonI think I musta added that dankolb
21:04.07TarragonJust a bit
21:04.51dankolbNot Suffolk?
21:05.18JensonNo, not Suffolk
21:05.22JensonI live in Essex
21:05.24murblehi jenson
21:05.27Jensonhey murble
21:05.43dankolbWell, border
21:05.47dankolb:)
21:05.50dankolbHi murble
21:06.02murbleblah
21:06.09TarragonHow is the film murble?
21:06.16murbleI'm in helmbretchts
21:06.19murblefilm?
21:06.29pdrseeya all - off to have a few drinks for nye!
21:06.35TarragonDinner for one. Should be on now.
21:06.44TarragonBye Pete
21:06.47murblethat was a few hours ago :)
21:06.56murbleduring our chilli dinner, ask huhn
21:07.22JensonYou hanging aound with huhn murble?
21:08.06murblehuhn is the other side of this croweded room
21:08.08dankolbI'm off for dinner
21:08.12murblesee http://www.penguinpeople.org
21:08.13dankolbHopefully I'll still be back later
21:08.17dankolbIf not, Happy New Year everyone
21:08.27murblehappy ny dankolb
21:08.28TarragonBye. Come back soon
21:08.34Jensonmurble: Say hi if you get to speak to her.
21:08.38murblejesnon: found your perfect computer in teh shops yet.
21:09.10Jensonmurble: Nope, haven't looked.
21:11.42Jensonlol murble cool picture...
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22:38.17Tarragonwb
22:38.21dankolbthanks
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22:41.36dankolbHi Jenson
22:41.40Jensonhey
22:53.30SpudUAwayHappy New Year to you CET guys!
22:54.21Jensons/browser/tab
22:54.24dankolb:)
23:16.09TarragonHoi SpudUAway
23:16.23JensonHoi? we going Dutch? hehehe
23:16.56dankolbWe are.
23:17.09JensonIn which case
23:17.18JensonHoi hoe gaat het allemaal?
23:17.27Jenson(not that I speak dutch)
23:35.04SpudUAwayYou guys have fun, ya hear.  Happy New Year to you all.  I'm, err, off to bed. Night.
23:35.12TarragonWhat!!
23:35.31dankolb'night SpudUAway
23:35.33dankolbHappy NY
23:35.40JensonNight SpudUAway
23:35.47JensonI went to bed bofre midnight last year...
23:35.56JensonHNY SpudUAway
23:49.08dankolbHappy New Year everyone!
23:53.25JensonWell Happy New Year
23:53.32Jensonnow I can go get some sleep
23:53.42JensonSee ya everyone
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23:55.18zacharyhappy newyears!!!!!
23:55.29zewwwthey hey people
23:55.47TarragonHappy New Year!
23:56.00zewwwthave a gud year ya'll

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