irclog2html for #gllug on 20030102

00:00.09dankolb_For fucks sake
00:00.15skugghanding in just a revised timeschedule wont quite cut it
00:00.21Jensonibot lart BTinternet
00:00.25skuggdankolb_, flaky line again?
00:00.27dankolb_Yeah
00:00.45JensonBT got me once tonight too, never gets me
00:00.59dankolb_Probably overloaded network or something
00:01.09skuggyou don't have access to a machine you can put a screen session on?
00:01.30skuggif i didn't have that, i'd be in deep shit
00:01.41skuggdankolb, so why don't you use it? :)
00:01.50dankolbThis requires using ssh over a modem
00:01.52dankolbWhich is painful
00:02.07skuggah. too true.
00:02.20skuggi'm using ssh over isdn -- just about bearable.
00:02.41skuggtry using blowfish though, it's said to lessen the lag a bit...
00:03.56dankolbI could try
00:04.08skuggi just re-logged in using blowfish now...
00:04.11dankolbI'm on fewer IRC channels though, with dank_work (do a /whois on both)
00:04.19TarragonI use ssh over cable
00:04.20skuggdon't think I notice much, but maybe a hint...
00:05.03skuggdan, i see
00:05.20dankolbBitchX doesn't seem to be wonderful at the multiple-channel thing
00:05.39skuggi try to cut down the amount of channels i frequent...
00:05.44skuggit's only three at the moment
00:06.02skuggresudaed, try irssi... hot tip.
00:06.13resudaedirssi?
00:06.25TarragonJust 3? is that normal
00:06.25dankolbI know. I should try irssi
00:06.26skugghttp://irssi.org
00:06.26resudaedconsole based?
00:06.29dankolbLots of people use it
00:06.35skuggmy fav irc clien
00:06.39skuggresudaed, of course.
00:07.02skugg(there's a graphical front end for those that prefer it though)
00:07.04resudaedgood, that's what I need
00:07.12skuggresudaed, apt-get install irssi-text
00:08.03JensonI hate BitchX enough to hate console....
00:08.04skugggood beginner-docs here: http://irssi.org/?page=beginner
00:08.41resudaedthanks
00:08.51skuggtried it once, never looked back
00:08.56resudaedcool
00:09.08resudaed(like me and Jack Daniels)
00:09.14skuggsame with openbox vs. blackbox
00:09.19skuggheh :P
00:09.30resudaedopenbox over blackbox?
00:10.01skuggopenbox rocks the socks off blackbox, for my use.
00:10.16resudaedmajor differences?
00:11.17skuggnot really, just more options in the settings, cleaner handling of keygrabbing etc (openbox use epist instead of bbkeys)
00:12.15TarragonJust trying aewm and fluxbox
00:12.32skuggby the way, if you have trouble with multiple _channels_ in bx, note that even multiple server setup is a breeze with irssi. i'm on undernet/opn constantly
00:13.11skuggi like that you can completely hide the 'slit' in openbox, for this you have to hack the source in blackbox
00:13.29dankolbI just have two BitchX sessions
00:14.25skuggalso openbox has snap-to-grid/snap-to-edge when moving, which i value. not that i use it much, but the few times I use it it's nice :)
00:15.27skuggdankolb, that's a solution. but it shouldn't be necessary -- irssi makes it dead easy to have multiple windows/servers at the same time.
00:15.44dankolbYeah, I'm just not quite sure how to configure it
00:16.51dankolbAre you configured with multiple servers?
00:17.17skuggit takes no configuration :) just say /connect server && /connect otherserver
00:17.38dankolbWhat about automatically joining channels?
00:17.47skuggthe active server is switched with ^X, just type /j gllug
00:17.58skuggf.ex to join a channel
00:18.12skuggautomatically joining channels on client startup?
00:18.17skuggthat what you mean?
00:18.26resudaedI really need something to take my rage out on at the moment
00:19.04TarragonXP
00:19.21JensonDamn I gotta go, BT 2 hour disconnect
00:19.23JensonSee yaz later
00:19.26dankolbskugg: yeah
00:19.27Tarragonbye
00:19.33cupisbye
00:19.39resudaedsomething more extreme, bill gares and a 7" bayonet
00:19.42dankolbYou have another 15 minutes...
00:19.43resudaedbye Jenson
00:20.04resudaeds/gares/gates
00:20.06JensonNo I don't
00:20.08Jenson1hr55
00:20.54skuggdankolb, read this and below: http://irssi.org/?page=docs&doc=startup-HOWTO#c1
00:21.05skuggit states what you whant
00:21.08skuggwant
00:21.35skuggbut, now I'm going to bed. night night...
00:21.40Jensonresudaed: Nah, bill gates and a million acupuntcure needles
00:21.40resudaednight skugg
00:21.45JensonNight skugg
00:21.51dankolb'night skugg
00:21.54Tarragonnight
00:21.58cupisnight
00:22.21resudaedJenson: no, I want the bayonet ... just in that kind of mood
00:22.32resudaed(more fun at the cost of less pain)
00:22.45JensonThe 7" part possibly....but not the bayonet.
00:23.06resudaedthe 7" part I already have, just a bayonet needed
00:23.14Jenson:)
00:23.16Jensonlol
00:23.24JensonI have a fencing sword.
00:23.31resudaedFTR I am not jewish
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00:25.01cupiswb
00:25.02dankolbHi Jenson_
00:25.05resudaedactually, my head just needs some serious clearing at the moment ... far too many emotions going on at once
00:25.08Jenson_fucking hell
00:25.10resudaedwb Jenson_
00:25.21Jenson_I love BT logged me back onto chat and hasn't verified my password yet
00:26.29Jenson_Anyway I only game in to kill my nickname
00:26.31Jenson_Night guys
00:26.35resudaednight
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00:26.47TarragonWhere can I get some good background images or themes
00:27.42resudaedhopefully the last of the vodka should be enough to clear my head
00:28.24dankolb'night all
00:31.11resudaedsorry people, need to go, my mind is fscked at the moment ... far too much shite going on for me to comprehend
00:31.15resudaedlaters all
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00:53.51EtherRexhello all
00:54.01zacharyEvening EtherRex
00:54.08EtherRexgood evening
00:54.17EtherRexfirst time here
00:54.23EtherRexextreme linux newbie
00:54.39zacharyWe all were at some time.
00:54.48EtherRexyeah, guess so :-)
00:55.03zacharyHow are you this evening?
00:55.12EtherRexgood, but frustrated
00:55.18EtherRexyou?
00:55.31TarragonWhy frustrated?
00:55.50EtherRextrying to get my alcatel speedtouch usb to work with Mandrake 9
00:56.22zacharyThere is a slight bug with mandrake. It fails to complete the config. Where are you located?
00:56.38EtherRexDalston London
00:56.48zacharyIt just takes a little hack.
00:56.59EtherRexhmmmm, is it tricky?
00:57.07zacharynot really
00:57.24EtherRexsomeone told me that Mandrake 9 doesnt support ppp over atm, but that cant be true right?
00:58.26zacharyyes it does, have you downloaded the microcode (mgmt.o)?
00:58.28EtherRexwould you be able to point me in the direction of instructions for  this hack please?
00:58.32EtherRexyeah i got that
00:59.00EtherRexit seems to be configured correctly but wont connect. doesnt seem to hold my account details either
01:00.13zacharygive me a second I have to look up which file it is.
01:00.27EtherRexcool
01:02.19zacharywhich editor are you going to use
01:02.20zachary?
01:02.38EtherRexgood question
01:02.45EtherRexi dont know ;-)
01:02.58zacharyok, we will use vi
01:03.13zacharypull up a shell
01:03.28zacharysu -
01:03.37zacharyenter
01:03.43zacharyroot password
01:03.58EtherRexyep
01:04.12EtherRexi cant do this as we speak as my system is dual boot
01:04.18EtherRexbut im taking notes
01:04.33zacharyenter this command: vi /etc/ppp/peers/adsl
01:05.02EtherRexok
01:05.27zacharydo you see any text?
01:05.49EtherRexim not doing it now as my system is dual boot with win
01:06.12EtherRexi only have the speedtouch modem at the mo
01:06.24EtherRexso im on windows currently
01:06.49zacharydid you use the mandrake network config utility?
01:06.57EtherRexyes
01:07.16zacharythe adsl file should exist...
01:07.32zacharyafter the vi /etc/...
01:07.37EtherRexokay, if it does what do i need to change?
01:07.37zacharypress the insert key.
01:07.53EtherRexok
01:07.54zacharythis allows you to edit the file.
01:08.00EtherRexah ok
01:08.56zacharythe correct line should be: pty "/usr/bni/pppoa3 -vpi 0 -vci 30"
01:09.13zacharythe config utility leaves out the -vpi and -vci numbers.
01:09.26EtherRexokay, i think i get it.
01:09.37EtherRexhow do i save the file with the changes?
01:09.41EtherRexive never used vi
01:10.07zacharyalso at the end of the adsl file the last line should be: user "your adsl login"
01:10.37zacharyyour adsl login should be the login id that the isp gives you. also include the quotes.
01:10.55zacharyafter that is done press the esc key.
01:11.23EtherRexright. i assume there will be a line for the password also? is that correct?
01:11.39zacharyno that is specified in another file
01:12.17EtherRexah. does teh config utility save that correctly then? is it best to check it manually?
01:12.19zacharyto save and quite is -> :wq (colon-w-q) and enter
01:12.46EtherRexright
01:12.55zacharyIt sets up everything except the vpi/vci settings.
01:13.04EtherRexstrange bug
01:13.52EtherRexi tried to search the mandrake site but could find no relevent references
01:14.00zacharyWhat I've found is the microsoft microcode works better.
01:14.06EtherRexill give that a try.
01:14.22EtherRexmicrosoft microcode/ really?
01:15.16zacharyyes, even though they should be the exact same, they are not.
01:15.24EtherRexi can try that also. Is it easy to use that?
01:15.41EtherRexjust a case of copying it over the other mgmt.o?
01:15.54zacharyyes, just rename it.
01:16.05EtherRexwhats it called currently?
01:16.15EtherRexso i can find it :-)
01:18.05zacharylet me check
01:18.40EtherRexim lookign at my speedtouch driver disc, but cant spot anything straight off
01:18.42EtherRexthanks
01:19.28zacharyIt is a *.sys
01:20.10EtherRexalcaudsl.sys maybe?
01:20.24zacharyyes that is it
01:20.52EtherRexcool
01:21.18EtherRexill try all that Zachary. maybe tonight or most likely in the morning.
01:21.33EtherRexmany thanks for your time. Its much apprecated
01:23.16zacharyNot a problem. GLLUG is hosting an install fest in late Feb/early Mar in Central London. Interested?
01:23.39EtherRexi saw that on the site. i may well be interested.
01:24.16EtherRexi also have to install drivers for my ATI radeon 9700 pro. i WILL have questions regarding that, im sure ;-)
01:24.42EtherRexmight be a good chance to get some help whilst meeting some people
01:25.07Tarragonwb
01:25.18davilionor something
01:25.20davilionhows it going?
01:25.36zacharyThe web site will be update with more info about it, I'm working on the web page now.
01:25.39TarragonStill working
01:26.40EtherRexcool. im going to go and try to sort the connection now. Thanks again. Ill probably be back at some point.
01:27.13zacharyEtherRex: have fun!
01:28.01EtherRexoh, i am already!
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02:04.18Tarragonevening
02:05.00mazogshi
02:05.11davilionhi mazogs
02:05.43mazogshello davilion, happy new year
02:07.28davilionyou too.
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02:12.09mazogshere i am again...
09:14.07dank_workMorning
09:41.31murbmorning
09:47.18dank_workGood New Year?
09:58.24murbnope, leazsedline down in.lu so they pho0ne be seems that they thought it was a problem with the router and powercycled it lots of times...
09:58.30murband it won't come up and it is all my fault.
09:58.40dank_workYour fault?
09:58.49murbyes, he claims i changed the password
09:58.51dank_workYou mean, they blame you, or you've done something?
09:59.07murband i didn't answer the phone at 0800
10:00.31dank_workAh. Well, 8am is unreasonable to answer the phone :)
10:01.36murbyeah, well they ran down my batteries trying, whilst i was trying to clean the flat i'd been staying in for the week.
10:01.39murbanyway i must go.
10:01.53dank_workOkay.
10:02.00dank_workHave fun, or something
10:02.08dank_workAre you still in .de?
10:06.27TarragonIt is nice to know that most spammers seem to still be on holiday. My Spambox is almost empty since New Year.
10:08.06dank_workMine isn't
10:08.20dank_workI had lots of spam since the 31st
10:09.05TarragonNot sure whether I should be pleased that I have avoided any or upset as they are ignoring me
10:09.12dank_workPleased
10:09.14dank_workObviously
10:11.20TarragonI wonder if I have been put on some sort of "Blunt Razor" listing because I don't buy or look at their rubbish.
10:35.36dank_workI don't look at it either
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10:49.28dank_workHi zachary
10:49.39zacharyGood morning
10:49.44zacharyhi dank_work
11:29.10dank_workRight. Does anyone here have experience of FreeRADIUS and LDAP?
11:45.58murbmoin
11:58.37highburyGood afternoon
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17:35.28resudaed_awayooh, that is better
17:35.39resudaed_away28" widescreen, DVD, new VCR
17:35.55resudaed_away(just need to wire it all up :-)
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17:36.02ShermozleHooroo
17:36.15resudaed_awayevening
17:36.36ShermozleWeird problem with lilo...
17:36.43ShermozleWarning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
17:36.43Shermozlehead/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80
17:36.43Shermozle<PROTECTED>
17:36.43Shermozle<PROTECTED>
17:36.46ShermozleAnyone got any ideas?
17:36.52zacharybrb, few minutes
17:36.55murbhihi
17:37.05resudaedevening murb#
17:51.34dank_workHometime!
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20:06.39eye69Been shopping at PC World
20:06.50eye69WD Caviar 120GB and Logitech MX700 mouse
20:08.08TarragonThats over 2200 hours of MP3s. Wow I am envious
20:09.10eye69Heh
20:09.29eye69I keep the mp3's I listen to on the Archos 20GB
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21:10.46EtherRexhey, newbie here. anyone about?
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21:44.34EtherRexanyone fancy helping a newbie out?
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22:05.51agkLeeds: Happy New Year!
22:06.17Leedscheers! same to you :-)
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22:06.39agkLeeds: did you spot my email?
22:06.48Leedsyeah...
22:07.18Leedsjust thinking about it...
22:07.57LeedsMy reply to your first question is: Um, kind of...  I was (with a couple of friends) running the internet access
22:07.58Leedsat a large (1800+ people) Jewish conference over Christmas, and I was
22:07.58Leedsreading my mail on my iPAQ over a very crowded shared linkne
22:08.01Leedsthat's link
22:08.53agkI see!   (I know I haven't keep up with most of my email over Xmas.)
22:09.17Leedsagk: that was for iPAQ stuff, right?  I've got a few talks/presentations to prepare at the moment - trying to keep track of them :-)
22:09.22agkyes
22:09.47agkit's informal
22:09.54agk(like gllug used to be)
22:10.21Leedsheh
22:10.40agkso fully-prepared presentations are rare
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22:11.20Leedsah...  were you there last time I ad-libbed an iPAQ talk? :-)
22:11.37agk(I think I missed that one)
22:11.58LeedsI'm told I was heading for a couple of hours before I petered out... and I had literally had the iPAQ for 5 days at that point...
22:13.02agkdo you know Oxford at all?
22:13.11Leedsnope...
22:13.15dankolbHi agk, Leeds
22:13.19agkhi dan
22:13.32dankolbOrganising an OxLUG talk? :)
22:13.38agktrying:-)
22:13.39LeedsI'm not sure I've ever been...
22:13.44dankolbOh, Happy New Year, BTW
22:13.50agkand to you
22:13.55dankolbThanks :)
22:14.09dankolbOxLUG is next Sunday, isn't it, not this Sunday?
22:14.14agkthis Sunday
22:14.19agk3 days off
22:14.20Leedsthis sunday, apparently...
22:14.46dankolbOoh. Okay. I guess I should try and arrange a lift then
22:15.45agkdankolb: maybe richard smith can come too?  I'd like to get this website thing started
22:16.03dankolbHe's still up in Sheffield, I think
22:16.29dankolbI'll talk to him, though, see if I can get him to email you or talk to you, if that's okay
22:16.43agkdankolb: I've started an email list
22:17.01Leedsagk: this is a very very stupid question, but would I have been punting in Oxford?
22:17.24agkdankolb: but we need to get together face-to-face
22:17.25dankolbSo should I ask him to join that list, then?
22:17.29agkLeeds: could have been
22:17.35agkdankolb: he's on the list
22:17.41dankolbAh. Good :)
22:17.45Leedsagk: http://photos.geeksgetrevenge.com/gibraltar/image--059.jpg :-)
22:17.55Leedsno, not gibraltar
22:18.06dankolbHe sometimes comes down to London
22:18.15agkI don't recognise it.
22:18.43agkBut it's years since I went punting.
22:18.57Leedsah well... in that case, I've probably been to Cambridge a couple of times, and possibly never to Oxford :-)
22:19.25agkwell we can give you a walking tour
22:20.02Leedsdoes that mean I said yes? :-)
22:20.12dankolbYes :)
22:20.20agkI think you almost did
22:21.03Leedsah well, in that case... :-)
22:22.44agkI can send you directions;
22:22.50Leedsso got a lift for me, or some nice easy directions and somewhere sane to park?
22:23.14dankolbComlab is sane to park in
22:23.31agkparking - yes, and there are some free off-street places near the pub we meet at for late lunch
22:23.31Leedsoh good - I'm too used to London :-)
22:24.02Leedslate lunch at 8pm? :-)
22:24.14agk1.30pm+
22:24.18dankolbUnfortunately the Lamb & Flag doesn't serve food
22:24.25dankolb(not at 8pm at any rate)
22:24.42agkGanesh reckons the photo is Cambridge
22:24.44Leedsah... that's not what your website says
22:24.56agknope.  we don't advertise the lunch very widely
22:25.02Leedsyou'd think I'd know where I was last year...
22:25.34zacharydankolb: Lamb & Flag on St. James St.?
22:25.42agkSt Giles
22:26.01Leedstoo late
22:26.12agkSome people not from Oxford arrive for lunch
22:26.43agkMost Oxford people only come for the evening, but people travelling make more of a day of it.
22:26.49LeedsI suppose I'll make a day of it then
22:26.54agkgood:-)
22:27.04Leedsstop answering my comments before I've finished typing them! :-)
22:27.39agkp'raps the irc server's in a time warp
22:28.00Leedsso it's A40 then?  from hanger lane?
22:28.07LeedsI can find that easily enough...
22:29.21LeedsI just zoomed out a bit far on MapQuest... I don't think I should be able to see Sarajevo on a map with directions from London to Oxford
22:29.34agkIf you get stuck, you can phone me on 070174 OXLUG  (070174 69584)
22:30.24Leedshmm... I have a different number for you in my phone already
22:31.00Leedsalias phone numbers? :-)
22:31.05agkYep.
22:31.50agkthe one in your phone should still work fine.
22:32.50agkI've an unidentified number in my phone ending 95468 - is that yours?
22:32.57Leedsyup
22:34.13agkThe pub where we meet for lunch is:  http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=450581&Y=207011&A=Y&Z=1
22:34.49agk(under the arrowhead)
22:35.13Leedsshould be easy enough to spot with a large orange arrow hanging above it
22:36.09Leedsgot it...
22:36.24agkThe place where the talk happens is under the arrow head http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=451253&Y=207044&A=Y&Z=1
22:36.51agk(entrance from the RHS - Parks Rd)
22:37.01Leedsso pretty much where the maps on the oxlug site say, then? :-)
22:37.04agk(pub is 'Radcliffe Arms' on Cranham St)
22:37.07agkYep
22:37.48agkYou have to look carefully at the parking signs on the roadside by the pub.
22:38.19agkMost are 'residents only'.  But there are a few spaces scattered around that are free to anyone to use.
22:38.49Leedsfair 'nuff
22:39.14agkIf you can only find a residents place (rare), then if Dan Barlow's around he normally lets us have one of his visitors' permits that let you use the residents' places.
22:39.49Leeds3 questions regarding talk: how many, who and how long?
22:40.21agkas it's outside term time, I reckon on 35 people.
22:40.38agkSimilar sort of mix to GLLUG.
22:41.08Leedsgood - was thinking maybe (scarily) more academic :-)
22:41.10agkbut self-selecting according to the topic i.e. people interested the topic more likely to come along.  [200 on mailing list]
22:41.47Leedssmaller than gllug then :-)
22:41.50agkyes.
22:42.58agkhow long - entirely depends on discussion.
22:43.27agkStarts 6.30. Sometimes over by 7.15.  Sometimes goes on till 9pm.
22:44.31Leedsno problem
22:46.23agkDo you have a flashy title etc. or shall I call it something like linux on iPAQ
22:47.20Leedswell, there's corny things like "A UNIX box in your pocket" :-)
22:48.14Leedsbut nah, the simple one is probably best
22:48.24agkI'll combine them.
22:50.18agkphone aliases: there were lots going free over Xmas, so I grabbed some incl. LINUX & UKUUG
22:51.09Leedsfair enough
22:51.49LeedsI like my mobile number - I've had it for a few years (three phones over 2 networks) and I use it in preference to my landline number
22:52.27Leedsso if I leave the house around noon, that should work
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22:58.24Jensonhey zewwwt
22:58.29zewwwthey how yu been
22:58.44JensonAlright ty, you?
22:59.02zacharyEvening Jenson
22:59.25Jensonheya zachary
22:59.45zewwwtzup zachary
22:59.48zewwwtim gud
22:59.55Leedsevening guys
22:59.57Leedsand gal
23:00.06zewwwtjuss 1 gal??
23:00.07zacharyhi zewwwt
23:00.14Leedsgals?
23:00.17Leedszewwwt: do I know you?
23:00.20Jensonheya Leeds, long time not chat. How you been?
23:00.33zewwwtno Leeds.
23:00.44zewwwtjenson is girl?
23:00.55LeedsJenson: been very busy... fun, but glad it's over for now
23:01.33JensonLeeds: Glad you've been enjoying yourself, nice to have you back on the channel with us.
23:01.38Leedshow's you?
23:01.54JensonI'm alright thank you
23:03.10Leedswhat's new?
23:03.34JensonHehehe...something you might wanna know actually....but you'll find out soon enough.
23:04.04Leeds?
23:05.20Leedsgo on?
23:05.45JensonNah, not now.
23:06.37Leedssure?
23:06.45Leedshad a good Xmas/New Year?
23:07.01JensonI have yeah.
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23:08.29davilionevenin all
23:08.44zacharyevening davilion
23:09.21Jensonhey davilion
23:10.02Leedshey, dav
23:10.39davilionhows it going guys?
23:11.23zacharycleaning out HDDs.
23:11.48Leedsbeen very busy over Christmas...  appear to have agreed to talk to OxLUG...  got to do a presentation for work for mid-Feb... busy time at work starts about now...
23:12.10davilionahh
23:12.20davilioni'd noticed it had been quiet, were you away anywhere for the holidays?
23:12.46Leedssort of away... running the internet access at a huge Jewish conference in Nottingham for 5 days
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23:17.24denivriLeeds: cool.
23:17.30denivriDid you have a nice holiday?
23:19.09Leedswhat, working? :-)  yeah - it was a lot of fun... extremely varied conference
23:20.23highburyhi Leeds, what conference?
23:20.40JensonHey highbury
23:20.51highburyhi Jenson
23:21.04Leedswww.limmud.org
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23:22.31dankolbHi
23:22.35Leedsworth seeing then, is it?
23:22.50zacharyhighbury: My wife would too.
23:22.55highburyyeah, I'd definitely say so
23:23.07Jensonhighbury: I wanna go see that movie....
23:23.53dankolbStar Trek isn't quite as male-dominated as computers
23:24.01LeedsI've seen Trek with girls before...
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23:26.36JensonHey zimm
23:26.49dankolbHi zimm
23:27.03zimmhi Jenson, dankolb :-)
23:27.15JensonI have a tshirt that says 'We are Klingon' in thlIngan Hol
23:27.18zimmgood new year ?
23:27.24highburyDonna and I both like Sci-Fi stuff
23:27.36dankolbPassable
23:27.39dankolbYou?
23:27.57zimmgood word , i'll use it too , Passable
23:28.15dankolb:)
23:28.19dankolbI survived it, anyway
23:28.24LeedsI always liked the fact that Unicode has a region reserved for Klingon :-)
23:28.46dankolbWell, isn't Klingon recognised as an official (artificial) language?
23:28.51JensonYeah
23:30.43JensonI think the meat goes inside the condom dan
23:31.41dankolbWell, yeah.
23:31.47Jenson:D
23:31.53dankolbSo I'm a bit confused as to what the 'suitable for vegetarians' means
23:32.08JensonAs was I
23:32.32JensonI guess it's to do with flavoured one that people might put in their mouths (if you know what I mean...)
23:34.18dankolbYou are weird :)
23:35.58Leedsyou don't eat *any* non-meat???
23:36.03Jensonlol Leeds...that's totally what I meant...
23:36.15LeedsJenson: just checking :-P
23:36.22dankolbLeeds: Are you going to talk to OxLUG, then, on Sunday?
23:36.48davilionwell i eat non meat but i thought that most IT geeks like myself dont feel the meal is tasty unless at least one animal has been sacrificed
23:37.20Leedsdankolb: apparently I am... I'm planning to be in Leeds the weekend of Feb 16th, if that helps :-)
23:37.43dankolbagk: Not since I was online last
23:37.45LeedsLondon?
23:37.53Jensonyeah Leeds
23:38.04Leedscoming down for the sales? :-)
23:38.27JensonNo Leeds I'm not...my parents are shopping.
23:38.50JensonI'm meeting up with a certain new boyfriend of mine who will also be in London (see above)
23:38.54davilionim going to edinburgh Saturday to get the most tasteless hawain shirt i can find, and to return some clothes i bought without trying them on
23:39.00Leedsah, that
23:41.02davilionquality session on six music right now
23:41.06davilionradiohead at glastonbury 98
23:41.36davilioni wasnt there but did manage to watch the concert
23:42.40LeedsI'm not so into radiohead
23:42.46davilionahh
23:42.51davilionone of my favorite bands.
23:42.57davilionreally cheer me up
23:43.05zimmthey were good that year ..
23:43.35davilionyeah wasnt that keen on Kid A or amnesiac, but their new stuff sounds fantastic
23:43.44davilionmuch more the radiohead we knew and loved
23:43.48zimmaye
23:43.56JensonKarma Police is the only Radiohead song I can remember.
23:44.19Leedseh... Buzzcocks is on, says my magic box
23:45.08davilionJenson: hmm, its ok, i much prefer the likes of The Bends,
23:45.54JensonNot disgusting BTW
23:47.21davilionlol
23:47.56davilionthats one thing that should be developed: condoms which detect the horniness and then send out some sort of audio/visual signal so you can find them
23:48.18Leedsit'd have to work by SMS :-(
23:48.39Jensonlol
23:48.57daviliondankolb: yeah bvut how does the condom know your horny and thus should start beeping
23:49.13Jensonewwwww beeping condoms lol
23:49.20dankolbThey'd be muffled
23:49.30davilionlol or they should just make the packets for glow in the dark ones transparent or something
23:49.48dankolbYou can get those keychains that beep when you whistle
23:51.10Leedsand/or the parents
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23:55.15Leedshmmm...
23:55.43Jensonhmmm? Leeds?
23:56.34Leedsoh, nothing
23:57.40Jenson:P
23:58.22Leeds:-P

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